Mad Max: Fury Raod would be my recommendation. I would recommend Serenity, but you would have to watch all of Firefly, if you have not already. And, if you have not, you should.

100% Mad Max: Fury Road. There's a reason Charlize Theron got an Oscar nomination for her portrayal of Furiosa.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1992) comedy/action The Fifth Element (1997) comedy/sci-fi Run Lola Run (1998; German) suspense Angel's Dance (1999) suspense/comedy

Alien 3, the Assembly Cut!

Firth Element, very unique experience!

Yeah but none of them can leave a comment because their batteries are flat

@@eddiebirdie1545 not seen the test results of the iPhone 13 then.

Google probably would send 70 families to their deaths in order to gather data to sell stuff to aliens.

@@waragainstsleepx2517 So much for do no evil.

Let's not even consider what Facebook might be up to in this universe...

And Bill Paxton is one of the punks in the beginning of The Terminator.

And, she did think she was auditioning for the part of an illegal alien. This is the reason she showed up with a tan. The joke is an Easter egg. So, so funny.

And bill paxton played johns dog, wolfie.

That's some diverse acting right there.

Vasquez also plays the Irish mother in "Titanic". Also a cop in "Lethal Weapon 2", but then, not a Cameron film.

Ditto. The energy in the theatre was amazing. The only other crowd energy/reaction that was comparable for me was opening weekend of Ghostbusters. Totally different reactions,obviously, but still a great shared experience, in which being in a packed theatre was actually fun, as opposed to the torture it has become.

Still gives me chills every time I see it. I think iconic is a vastly overused word these days but it really is deserved for that moment.

@@jefferoni1984 For the entire film!

Same here. My first rated R movie when i was a 12 year old!!!

It was the 1986 equivalent of Captain America lifting Mjolnir.

And every red-blooded male agrees.

@@danielschaeffer1294 If your blood is green, you will probably be more interested in the alien queen.

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Don’t worry. I know it’s red whenever I knick myself shaving.

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Not necessarily. If it's green, you may have a penchant for hanging skulls on your wall.

Well, I think that kind of underwear was pretty common back then.

Gorman also redeemed himself at the end by going back to help Vasquez.

And Burke redeemed himself by bravely sacrificing his body to the Xenomorph to be cocooned and later impregnated. What a true hero! Clearly the film's MVP!😁

Bill Paxton has been killed by a Terminator, an Alien, and a Predator. He’s a human trivia question. 8-)

I served with a few guys like that, afraid of everything and stayed as far back as they could from everything - until the S went down and they became the crazybrave that was always in them.

Also, on his panic periods I think a lot of folks overlook the references he makes to “being short” and only having something like 3-4 weeks left. He’d clearly been in past missions that would’ve involved danger/combat… but imagine you’re Short and THAT is your final mission. I think that rates spazzing out more than one normally would.

Certainly have

The guy who plays Hicks, Michael Beihn, was excellent in James Cameron's The Abyss.

Bill Paxton and Lance Henricksen are the only actors to have been killed the The Alien, The Predator and The Terminator. And yes, I'm counting Bishop as a death.

Vasquez was in titanic too

Lance Henriksen, Bill Paxton and Jenette Goldstein were also in a vampire movie from 1987 called Near Dark

@@WishMaster077 Directed by... Cameron's wife...

I havlearned that he died few day ago in 2017, i was really sad (for a cheap death, no cancer etc but a aorta failure), but he will be still remembered as the solo guy that has been killed by alien, terminator and predator, RIP its sad.

@@mignonthon Lance Henriksen (Bishop) got killed by these 3 too. Killed by an alien (Aliens), killed by the terminator (Terminator 1) and killed by a predator (Aliens vs Predator 1)

@@Cantaloop76 yeah true (i didnt remember Avp 1 to well but yes he was the chief/creator of weyland compagny,i didnt know that Bill passed aways in 2017, i was so sad to learned it, even death killed him ( bad humor sorry) "game over man, game over !" is still eternal.

@@jtsawis7078 I remember him also from Mighty Joe Young, loved that movie as a kid.

Such a burn that only an alien blood acid burn to the arm could soothe it....

@@marklittrell3202 Yep! And that actress is the same woman who played young John Connor's foster mom in Terminator 2. She also had a small part in Titanic. Seems James Cameron loves using her in his movies!

Sucks great line.

I love that line

I was always partial to Ripley calling out the W-Y board when they wouldn't listen: "Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?"

The tone was all in the lived-in future setting and the crazy Giger visuals.

Several characters have great character arcs or development. Hudson starts off like just any jackass, but by the end he fought bravely to the very end. The Lieutenant also redeems himself when he goes back to try to help Vazquez. And Bishop didn't really change, but he redeemed the image of the synthetic humans.

thats pretty dm cool, where did you get or find that sound effect?

That was my first phone notification sound too. 👍 But I had to change it when my brother was visiting and we were playing two player Aliens: Colonial Marines. 🎮 It kept going off and in game we were frantically spinning around saying "is that yours, it's not mine!"... 🤣😂

That its fucking messed up :'D

You are a mean, sadistic bastard. I approve. :D

You should immediately look at your phone and say out loud "That can't be; that's inside the room!" And then slowly look at the ceiling.

This is the one where 3 of the dozen humans in the crew survive. So, you know. the happy one!

Yep. Me too.

l think if you follow the story on the thru the movies the aliens are/were engineered weapons with genetic intelligence which would evolve to suit their prey. In a later movie a frozen chained up queen is thawed out & revived (not for the first time) but this time she knows even trapped in her room that things are different and gets her young to bite off the limbs that are chaining her thereby setting her free

@@TheFalconerNZ Interesting. There was an alternate ending that was briefly discussed by the writers for the first movie that eventually got shot down that lends a lot of credibility to the idea that the aliens are actually much more intelligent than we thought they were: In the final scene Ripley actually gets killed by the alien. The alien gets into the pilot seat and, in Captain Dallas' voice, makes a distress call to be rescued by some unsuspecting passing ship... That would have been a shocking, but depressing, ending!

“They cut the power? How could they cut the power? They’re animals!” - Hudson. They’re smarter than we think.

@@L1VE3V1L And of course there's this classic example of their intelligence.... (watch to the end) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7yKiLmWstq9iJc.html

They should have cut to the alien queen just standing there listening to elevator music...Girl from Epanema on the Casio...

Henrickson, Goldstein and Paxton also appeared together in the western vampire movie “Near Dark” in the mid 80s.

Lance Henriksen was actually Cameron's first choice to play the Terminator. He had Lance dress up in the biker gear and kick-in a door when James was meeting with studio execs. The idea was that machines don't need to be bulky to be strong, so the ideal infiltrator unit is the one that looks like anyone else in a crowd until it sidles-up and rips your heart out. The studio became enamored with Arnold's physicality, and he's certainly iconic, but he's an objectively-terrible choice for an infiltrator. If you look at a crowd and see Arnold, you know exactly who you're going to peg as the secret assassin. Cameron wrote the "detective" part for Lance as a consolation prize when the studio passed him over.

Lance Henriksen's autobiography is called "Not Bad For A Human."

Lance Henrickson: The Police Detective Who Wasn't Played By Paul Winfield...😂

@@michaelccozens Lance Henrikson is the only actor in the Alien franchise to play 3 different characters with the same name: Android Bishop, Michael Bishop Weyland (who design android Bishop), and Charles Bishop Weyland (head of Weyland Industries)

Express elevator to hell!

@@bungobox7454 Going down!

Or "Lock & Load!"

I'm the same with 'I got a bad feeling about this drop.'

We're in for some chop!

I agree with you - with the Possible exception of Terminator 2

Yep, this is about as close to a perfect movie as you can get. Such a relief they _NEVER_ tried to make sequels or franchises just to cash in on its success.

@@MyMarsham - Uhm...

@@joaquinlechen8611 Yep, just let this and it’s originator stand on their own mighty achievements in cinema history, never to be dragged down…

I would place Silence of the Lambs, Lawrence of Arabia, The Wizard of Oz above it. I place 2001 at the pinnacle of all movies.

I suspect that it was just a few people in the company that were responsible, perhaps even a rogue group like Burke. Also, 57 years have passed. The people responsible are presumably dead. The current members of the company likely know nothing about it.

The one family, Newts parents were naive. The scientists on the planet already been to the ship. That's where the specimens in the jars came into play. They was experimenting on people being hosts before Newts family found ship. Company new. They was playing Ripley the whole time. That's why she was on spacestation and not on Earth, so she couldn't tell anyone

@@Mr.Ekshin movie didn't show what was already known. Burt went to see Riply a couple of days after father got facehugged and they losed contact. They knew about ship before Newts father. That's the real reason they went to the planet. The colonist didn't know about the ship but scientists knew. Newts father was a scavenger and he looks for claims and stumbled upon ship

That and the suits were from the licensing dept not the company. Ripley was being reviewed by something akin to our FAA about her actions. The company withheld whatever data they had. (if any) It's likely they deleted everything when the ship blew up to deny responsibility.

Yeah but realize that the company had in it's directives to the Nostromo's " Mother " that the crew were all expendable. Dean Luwen must have known that regardless of the time that passed as it would have been in the company's computers. Ripley should have seen him as suspicious. I find it curious that she didn't tell him the company labeled her crew as expendable...perhaps she was holding that info. back so she wouldn't possibly be targeted, followed and " disappear ".

I just imagine her looking over at him beforehand like "how could I raise such a despicable child" haha

Amen......👍 hey shout out to Thelma and louise as well

EXACTLY! Stop making "Strong, female characters" that are basically just MEN played by actresses & CALLED Women! The ONLY time a SFC should show ample MALE traits (aggression, competition, etc.) is when APPROPRIATE for a woman! Like when she is protecting her young. (mama bear) Though, well done exceptions, like Ramirez are fine from time to time. The rest of the time, show her as "STRONG" via her female traits. (Empathy, adaptability, etc.) Like when Ripley tapped into her maternal instincts to "relate" to the Queen to 'communicate' with her.

See back in the day that the hero was female was not even a big deal or any great event. We have definitely regressed recently and amplifying inequality that's not even there this making it even worse than it once was unfortunately

@@sharkdentures3247 That's actually the opposite of what Ridley Scott intended in the first Alien movie. Ripley was initially written as a man, and the goal was to show that each characters' genders were interchangeable b/c it doesn't matter. James Cameron chose a different route and highlighted Ripley's identity as a mother. It's all about the execution, not the choice. Also, it's Vasquez, not Ramirez.

@@TCM215 Actually, girl power became huge back then. It was a big deal when Bond girls began to be consistently portrayed as strong women (ex: Michelle Yeoh & Famke Janssen). Xena: Warrior Princess, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Dark Angel, Alias, etc... also took advantage of the trend on TV. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon addressed the oppression of women by the patriarchy as well.

they were also put together using various motorcycle parts and other real weapon parts

Indeed, and I don’t think - since people aren’t aware of this or how heavy old steadicam rigs PLUS the addition of rifle and other parts were - appreciate the physical dedication the two actors agreed to, even though the shots were short and there was crew on hand to get the gear off quickly when done. Especially the actor for Vasquez since they didn’t even invest in a small/custom steadicam harness smaller pros use and just cut down/modified one to fit her. Not as good at distributing weight and balance…

@@sdev2749 the weaponry used was basically MG 43 German machine guns.

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 42, not 43. Also the Pulse Rifles are Tommyguns with an underslung Remington shotgun hidden inside the shell of a SPAS-12.

@@CruelestChris my bad. Yes I'm aware of the way they made the prop. They also made their distinctive sound by running recordings of automatic weapons fire backwards.

Iconic

Who? Bill Paxton of course! .

The Assembly cut makes Alien 3 a good movie. It´s not as good as 1 and 2 but it still is a solid movie

Kerry you are perfectly correct. Alien was all about horror/tension/and the unknown, as no one had seen the alien before, or what it could do. Aliens was all about how a lot of aliens could chew through even the most battle hardened, well equipped firepower thrown at them. Alien 3, is Ripley's swan song, showing that despite being surrounded by cannon fodder, she does what she has to to stay alive, up to a point, and how the creature that the alien gestates inside of, influences how it moves. Alien 4, is the "Well we can make you even more scary than the alien!" ; now let's see what you can do!" SuperRipley! They all have a story to tell, whether it be in Director/Assembly cuts, or original cinema releases. They all have a valid Alien story to tell. None of them retell any of the story that has gone before, they all add new facets and data to the Alien franchise....even the Alien vs Predator titles.

​ @My-Brain-Ache I have to respectfully disagree with both of you. Though Cameron did have a logical follow-up to the story that involved Ellen Ripley, to say that Ripley & the Xenos MUST go together is *extremely* limiting from a story perspective & actually doesn't make much sense in the world that was created. What I mean is that there was never established in either film that there was some kind of 'mythological bond' between them. In the 1st film, Ripley was smart & lucky, but she was just a regular working Jane who rose to the occasion as regular people have done. The 2nd film again, was just a logical continuation of that, Ripley losing her daughter, but having a second chance with Newt, gave her the drive she needed to face this new threat. It was how she used that mothering passion that was the crux of her confrontation, not any kind of Grand Fate that forced the fight. Also, in that light, the 3rd film, while being a decent attempt to retread the first movie (as Fincher said he disliked the 2nd & wanted to continue the feel of the 1st), completely eviscerates & destroys the entire POINT of the 2nd film. Ripley saving and bonding with Newt, becoming her Mother, was, without a doubt, the Heart and Soul of the story. Dumping Newt (and Hicks & Bishop) like trash makes all Ripley's struggle hollow & meaningless. Ripley doesn't give a *rip* about the Aliens & fighting them. She only did it to save her adopted Daughter. The same thing was done a few years ago actually, with the end of 'Thor: Ragnarok' & the start of 'Avengers: Infinity War'. The victory Thor has in saving his people, in forging a new relationship with his Brother, are all casually gutted & made pointless at the start of Infinity War. Thanos was already a gargantuan threat, his actions there are just gratuitous. Lastly, thank you both for your thoughtful comments. I'm not trying to be antagonistic & if more work had been put into Alien 3's script (or just better writers used), it would have been entirely possible to have another logical fight between Ripley & the Xenos, *Without* gutting the 2nd film.

@@torikazuki8701 no it doesn't. Alien 3 is a great follow up to the second film. It shows just how nihilistic and bleak things truly are.

@@Chris-ci8vs 'It doesn't' what? Just being bleak & nihilistic for the sake of being bleak & nihilistic, is easy, stupid & immature. It has *always* been easier to destroy, than to create. Both in fiction & and in life. 'Alien 3' adds nothing to the franchise. The 1987 Dark Horse Comic series, that FOX authorized DH to create, blows A3 out of the water from a narrative perspective. It is still extremely dark and 'nihilistic' at times, but focusing on a developing relationship between Newt & Hicks, while letting Ripley become a background character, took the story in a logical path, that wasn't just a repeat. EXACTLY what the 2nd Film did with the First.

i agree about ALien 3 but Covenant sucked, the most dangerous species in the galaxy was created by a damn android with daddy issues and a god complex give me a break, Prometheus is at least a pretty looking film with interesting concepts and idea's about the creation of life and can easily line up with the beginning of Alien but Covenant is just Ridley Scott trying to destroy and rewrite his own story for the sake of his weird attraction towards robots or robot on robot action in the case of Covenant.

Alien 3 is OK, it's just nowhere near as good or as rewatchable as the first two. I prefer Alien 4, which is more fun (though still not as good as the first two).

Yeah, Alien 3 should be on the list, just not a high priority. And what the hell, if you’re the completist type, might as well watch 4 at some point. WRT Predator, unless you’re a big Carl Wethers fan, meh. And if you don’t see that first, why bother with the rest?

YES, THEY NEED TO WATCH ALIEN3. But there is NO OTHER ALIEN MOVIE AFTER 3!!

i think Alien 3 is one of the most underrated sequels ever. so paranoid and depressing. some of the scenes like the Charles S Dutton burial speech are fucking amazing. and the camerawork during the final chase sequence is just mindblowing. not to mention the very ending. great movie.

Alien 3 is even hated by its own director. DO NOT WATCH IT. it isn't just bad, it shits all over Aliens.

I recall it being mentioned in Apollo 13 that the returning vessel re-entering atmos had a very narrow window between having an entry angle that was too acute, thus creating too much resistance and burning-up the craft, and having one that was too flat, thus skipping-off the atmosphere and being deflected back out into space. IIRC, they said that if the Earth was a basketball, the window for re-entry would be as thin as a piece of paper. Might that also be part of the "pipe" in question?

@@michaelccozens You are correct. Above the pipe and the capsule bounces back to space, because it is falling from the moon, so it may have reached escape velocity. Below the pipe and it would be an overwhelmingly hot and too far below and atmopshere would feel like crashing against a rock. The entry profile of Apollo makes one bounce during entry, like a stone in the water, and then it goes down in a reentry. This is where the term reentry comes to play. If that bounce is skipped, the entry becomes hotter- Space shuttle Entry Interface used the hotter approach. Apollo had a heat shield that would melt and carry the heat with these melted drops, away from the capsule. But Space Shuttle was more like a cup of coffee, no material going away from the ship. This forces a hot entry. If you leave hot coffee in a cup for too long, you will feel the exterior of the cup becomes hotter. In the case of Shuttle heat shield it would be the internal aluminium hull. So a quick entry is way hotter outside, but the cup does not heat in the outside, so the alimunium hull does not get too hot. As you may guess, the alimunium interior gets hotter after the ship has landed. But not hot enough to melt the alumiium. If you choose a colder entry, it is like having coffee for a longer time, the hull may melt inside. Shuttle has no reentry, just Entry Interface (EI) where the ship travels inside the pipe. After EI, TAEM comes to play where the ship is a glider and it aligns with invisible HAC (Heading Alignment Cone) that are like cylinders you need to reach to end up perfectly aligned with landing strip. Watch a video called "How to Land the Space Shuttle... from Space".

Funny you say that about Telecommunications. I was in Telecommunications in the Navy and never heard it until I played Starcraft.

Not sure what Alien 3 you mean? They only made the two movies and then they stopped.

I absolutely agree. The tide is turning on Alien 3 now though. It's more of a thinking movie than the gung-ho Americana of Aliens with it's Disney happy ending.

Maybe Blade Runner 2049 is.

@@philosopher0076 Blade Runner 2049 is great but I wouldn't call it an "action movie" Besides Aliens & Terminator 2, the podim of best Sci-fi action movies is completed by Starship Troopers as far as I'm concerned.

@@s.p..smdness8748 Matrix is in on that list and so is Edge of Tomorrow for me as that is last also slowly becoming a great classic for me personally with all of these... if its one you can watch over and over and not get bored with it ..then its awesome

I think Star Wars and The Empire strikes Back might argue. The Thing, Robocop and Escape From NY were also pretty great.

Along with Terminator 2, this is one of the best sequels ever made.

The psycho sadomasochist Val Resnick in "Payback"

And vasquez was in terminator 2 as john connors carer mother

I used that quote for years afterward, for many situations.

I guess that depends on whether you are watching the special edition or not. Technically Ripley isnt a mother in the theatrical version.

It's given that they have a wolf's level of intelligence, and some genetic memory absorbed from the host. SO they don't know what the power is, or understand electricity, but they do understand it's importance to us and our survival based on the hosts they took, and if any of them was a technician, they'd know how to cut it.

@@ScornedOne1080 For all its faults (of which there are many), I thought Alien: Resurrection had the best display of their level of crude intelligence, when the imprisoned xenomorphs massacre one of their own to get out of their cage, then use the freeze-blast system on the guy who had been torturing them.

@@davidmcleod5133 Admittedly, A:R needed a better fit director. Had some decent parts don't get me wrong, but it was overall a series of morbid jokes one after another as opposed to a horror movie.

Alien also implies the creature is intelligent, just not obviously so with Cameron's dumb dialouge. Another reason why this sequel is inferior to the original.

@@apothos666Their intelligence is inferred in James' sequel as well: "They cut the power? How could they have cut the power?" I too prefer the original for its slow-burn immersion, but the sequel is rightly regarded as one of the greatest sequels of all time and I would have to agree with that, though they are quite different kinds of movie.

@Ricardo Alonso Rojas Because the next movie starts by dropping trou and taking a shit on this movie.

They did the characters too dirty for most fans to enjoy it unfortunately

It should've been a stand alone movie without the characters from Aliens, and then it'd have been okay.

I'm one of the few that agrees. I catch a lot of flak for liking the Assembly Cut

I think Alien 3 is shit. If you like seeing 2 movies worth of character development to be destroyed off screen, then you're welcome to call it underrated, but for me, I wish I could erase it from my memory and never have watched it.

Alien 3 is an underrated masterpiece! Love it. It’s my favourite soundtrack as well.

It's finger lickin good!

I can't agree. It diminishes what this movie built up considering the characters that survive this movie and what Ripley went through for those characters. Bad writing. Fincher is an amazing director but Alien3 does more damage than good to the franchise. Shame.

I think people are a tad unreasonable about that. It's like people expect that Henn should have put herself in a freezer for 6 years to not age out of the role. The problem is because of the writing in this movie, Alien 3 just had to work around it in some way. (With that said, Alien 3 still have worse writing, but not because of the parts people tend to complain about.)

I liked Alien 3 but I wish they had come up with another explanation about what happened to the rest of the cast from this movie. But apart from that, it’s good.

"Aliens" was conceived as a labor of love from Cameron when he was struck by creative inspiration on seeing the first movie. "Alien 3", on the other hand, was commissioned by executives wanting to squeeze more money out of the franchise, and was spawned as a Frankenstein monster conglomerate of six different scripts...none of which were individually a good, interesting, or creative movie. Heck, Ripley was back in that film because the executives demanded it.

Great theory in general. I'm going to star speculating about reasons now too. (I've certainly been re-watching the movie a lot lately through reaction vids)

also why they don't seem like a set "unit" but a group that has only been working together for a short while.

Naw, the Marines being hosts for the aliens makes no sense, since, you know, they have guns and grenades they can use to off themselves if they're even close to that happening, and which will make it unlikely the drones will be trying to take them alive.

Yea their disciplined sucked.

This is what Ripley is specifically talking about when she accuses Burke, saying it is his fault. He (Burke specifically) sent them to go check out the ship, and Ripley found the directive in the colony's log. There are deleted scenes that make this more clear.

Yep, Burke hears Ripley tell her story and then has the family check the location, because maybe $$$

@@TreantmonksTemple The really messed up part was, the company review board realized Ripley was telling the truth and still they didn't reinstate her license. However, Ripley may be too old to keep her license. Commercial pilots are forced to retire at age 67. They can still fly airplanes but over 65 they can't fly airlines any more. I think we can safely assume the have the same thing in the future, and though the age limit might be higher, there would surly still be an age limit. Sigourney Weaver was 30 in 1979, so if we assume Ripley is the same age (30 is a reasonable age for a second in command of a ship) she would be at least 87 years old when she was found adrift in space. She would be well past any kind of forced retirement age.

I think Alien³ is a good movie, but a bad sequel.

@@grendeltech Good point

Aliens 3 had two fatal flaws in an otherwise good movie. First, the CG is godawful, even for the time. Like, take you out of the movie and laugh at it bad. Not good to be laughing at a horror film. The second is they kill Hicks and Newt right off the bat. Unforgivable. I guess maybe the actress for Newt probably grew too much to work, and maybe the studio couldn't get Michael Beane to sign on. Either way, it killed the movie for a lot of fans in the first minutes.

@@zakholmberg5460 Funny thing is that most of what people cite as "bad CG" in Alien 3 isn't CG at all. It's a puppet against blue screen, aka practical effects, just implemented poorly.

@@ahoyforsenchou7288 Wow. How did they make a puppet look that bad?

The 80's had some great sequels: Empire, ST: TWoK...

I always regretted they didn't follow the comics where the sequel would have been a story, I think on Earth, featuring Hicks & Newt. Did try to watch the third one once, but couldn't get into it so Have never finished it. kerk

@@rayharley597 for interested parties, we are discussing "Aliens: Earth War" published by Dark Horse Comics. Which follows alternate events after the second Alien film. It has been reprinted where Hicks' and Newt's names where changed, but it is easy to see who they were meant to be. It is a phenomenal read and I can't recomend it enough to fans, but there are two major problems with turning it into a film as far as I can tell. First is that horror, especially sci-fi horror, is a rather niche market with a definate cap on how much you can expect to bring in at the box office. I believe the cost of making Earth War would far exceed any expected return (granted, there have been exceptions). Second, while Earth War is amazing and it's sequel "Nightmare Asylum" is a fantastic follow up (with ellements the fourth film would "Borrow") the last story in the trillogy is a huge let down (This franchise and the number 3 right? ) I would live to see Earth War on film, realisticly, I don't think it's likely.

Alien 3 is underrated IMO, the assembly cut is worth watching and is the 3rd best Alien movie for me

Not worth a viewing. After what they did to Hicks & Newt......no way, man. Game over!

Considering that the Director David Fincher despises the movie and has completely disowned it, I think that tells you all you need to know about that travesty. And the "Assembly Cut" isn't a Director's cut at all, Fincher had zero input and had no interest in working on it in any capacity.

My theory is that it was covered up by those responsible when the Nostromo failed to arrive back. The Company may well have been genuinely ignorant of the events of Alien by the time of Aliens. After 57 years everyone involved would have been dead or long retired. They wouldn't have waited until after Ripley turned up before investigating the ship otherwise.

Personal theory: The person who programmed Ash with Special Order 937 was some rogue executive secretly working for their own advancement within the company, without their bosses' knowledge. When the Nostromo was recorded as lost, they cut their losses and buried all evidence of their involvement. Then when Ripley showed up with her crazy story 57 years later, Burke (another rogue executive with his own agenda) remembered some old rumour he'd heard and dug up the records. He sent Newt's family out to find the derelict ship to confirm everything, and when word came back that the colony had gone dark, he saw an opportunity to finish what his predecessor had started.

@Kristopher Chavez Indeed, if they where still aware of and actively attempting to acquire an Alien then there was no way that Hadley's Hope would have ever been established.

Glad you enjoy them!! ^-^

Also the insistence from Sigourney to not have weapons in the film kindof stacked the deck, but you need to see 3 really to see 4. 4 has its issues but I really like the transition ripley makes in 4

Unfortunately it’s still a bad film, no matter what difficulties Fincher had with the studio (especially due to the difficulties). It ruins the previous two, and the effects did not age well either. He became a great director, but that doesn’t mean everything he was involved with is golden, even though it wasn’t his fault.

Personally I agree that the 3rd film is worth watching. It certainly has its problems, and it does suffer from being a sequel that isn't as good as what came before it, but I strongly disagree with it "ruining" the previous movies. For me, I just approach it as being a different genre film. #1 is a Hollywood horror film. #2 is a Hollywood action film. #3 is more like an arthouse suspense film. It does have it's problems for sure, no doubt about it. But IMO it also has some good qualities: including some performance highlights from Sigourney Weaver, Charles S. Dutton, Charles Dance, and Pete Postlethwaite. Also as has been mentioned, it progresses the story setup for #4 - which to be honest is another movie that has pros and cons, but in my opinion is still a worthwhile watch (especially watching the behind the scenes stuff, and seeing how Sigourney impressed everyone so much that they all broke character immediately during filming).

No, no, no no... normally I am very forgiving on story installments on franchises, for example I feel that Terminator 3 neatly wrap-ups the Terminator story in a well-written way that closes on the time-loop of Terminator 2. But Alien 3 and Alien 4 are not be watched, and bring nothing to the series or franchise's story. They actually invalidate the first two movies in such a way as to render them meaningless. Likewise Prometheus and Alien Covenant are awful and did nothing to the table either, just more plotholes and exploitation. Just stop at Aliens, and move on to other stories and series.

More story info, but it messes with the pacing.

The Special Edition is much better for a second viewing, but not a first. Those of us that have seen it already have to keep in mind that the audience is SOOO much better off not knowing what happened on LV426 before Ripley and Co. arrived. It really hypes up the suspense not knowing if they actually encountered the Aliens or not, and if so, how? And it doesn't really add much in return (except possibly on that second viewing), except also slow the pacing. So you lose more by watching it first. You don't really lose anything but watching it second.

@@nathanruggles Yeah I agree. People really into a franchise overestimate the value of "as much info as I can get" on first run, myself just as much as anyone. But i do think for example _Donnie Darko_ plays better as pure mood no explanation instead of the rambling philosophy made up by the director in his cut that "explains" everything but doesn't make the film better :)

@@jerodast Thank you for you reply! Glad to know somebody understands where I'm coming from. Frankly, to take it a step further, first viewers could actually be turned off from a film by a Director's or Extended Cut because they can become overwhelmed with the info dumps or lore dumps or distracted or confused by the extra plot points or bits for minor characters and all the rest that can come with it.

@@jerodast To give another case in point: the LOTR Fellowship of the Ring Extended Cut. [Spoilers] It reveals the capability of the ring of power to allow the wearer to disappear with the extended tale of Isildur BEFORE Bilbo reveals it (in the theatrical version) as a surprise at his party. It ruins for the first-time viewer sharing in the surprise with all the characters at his party. Which frankly is sad. But a direct result of watching the extended first, and something that fans can easily forget.

Finally Someone With a Brilliant Brain Speaking.

I agree. although 3 is not as good as the first two it's worth watching to complete the story but don't bother with resurrection or covenant.

I Agre... The whole franchise got "less good" with each installment, but 3 is a good movie. I find it kind of icky that the right people said bad things about it and now loads of people complaining about sound the same.

@@Djanck000 We complain about it because it was bad. Two fatal flaws - godawful, laughable CG that takes you right out of the movie, and they kill Hicks and Newt right off the bat. The rest of the movie is actually good, but those two things kill it. Thumbs down all the way.

in australia we got a wasp that paralyses a spider, lays eggs in it, and seals it in a wax compartment .. the baby wasps eat thier way out of the spider :) so Id say the Aliens had a bit more in common with wasps than termites ..