Good video, I hope that by next year Alienware improves its X series laptops since they are good in construction but there are some small things that should be modified just like Lenovo

I’m waiting for the 40 series GPU’s at this point. I have the x17 R1 and have enjoyed it. Surprised the speakers were better on the x17 tbh. Thank you!

Enjoy your content, would have loved more information about the physical CPU/GPU setup. Upgradabilty if that’s even still a thing. Whats soldered, and what isn’t.

You never fail with these videos!

Great comparison as always, mate.

I like your reviews Thank you very much.

Great review, can't wait for lenovo legion 7i gen7 intel vs AMD version 👍👏

Thanks for the great review! I was actually waiting for it, but because I couldn't postpone buying a new laptop anymore, I have decided to go with Lenovo Legion 7 with 12800HX and 3070 Ti due the diminishing returns of 12900HX and 3080 Ti - I used to own 2 Alienwares, but actually for roughly the same price around 3000 EUR one could get either the one that I've bought or the AW with 12700H and QHD display - knowing that AW has some thermal issues with x17 r2 (I have also experienced them on my old 17 R4 with GTX 1080), worse processor, and that it's officially isn't sold in Czech Republic (unfortunately we're way too small market for companies like Dell, Google etc.) made me confident that Lenovo is the better choice. The fact that it has smaller screen is not a big deal for me because I've got myself wonderful Alienware AW2721D display with AW510K keyboard. So far, I've been using this laptop for a few days and yeah, there are some things that could be better: like try to disassemble it to install 2nd SSD - for me it was a nightmare despite the fact that I'm more of an advanced user with iFixit complete toolbox, necessary knowledge and practice in electronics repair, lack of Windows Hello, somewhat *different* keyboard (it's not worse than on the AW, it's just different), missing mini-DP port (not relevant for everyone though) ...but even though Legion isn't perfect, it's damn close for me to be the one and I have no buyer's remorse🙂 The screen is great and good enough for some semi-pro work IMO not even mentioning media consumption. For pure gamers playing games at QHD or higher resolutions the difference between HX and H(K) processors probably isn't worth a higher price (I mean if you consider maybe similar laptops from other brands since in this situation it's clear - HX is a better processor for the same money), for those whose daily life isn't really only about the gaming and includes some CPU-intensive tasks I'm sure you'll be better with more cores (i.e. HX is a better choice for you). I would disagree with sound quality evaluation though - maybe because it's not the same to hear it through the mic in a video, maybe Alienware did something in order to improve the sound quality, but I've heard AW a couple of months ago and I'd say that Legion is better - not that it matters for me because I think all of these laptops are crap in terms of music quality😄(excluding perhaps only Macs), I only use headphones or HiFi system, but for background listening to a radio, podcast etc. sound quality of Lenovo is alright.

Thanks for another great video!

Great review Mash! You deserve more subs. Both look amazing! The Lenovo looks almost as nice as the Alienware too. Keep up the good work.

Hi Dave, I want to say a big thanks to you. I have gone for the Alienware X17 r2 3070ti with 4k screen to replace my 2014 Alienware. The build quality and packing & service really seal it for me as competitors are so closely matched. Annoyingly, I now can’t live without Windows Hello😀

Enjoyed this review. Very balanced and fair assessment of both. My Legion 7i (same model as reviewed) will be arriving Monday. Can't wait!

Can't wait for Lenovo legion 7i gen 7 vs Lenovo legion 7 gen 7.. Intel vs Amd and pls compare mid end specs of both laptop

Amazing review, exactly what I needed. I think im going with Alienware, even though i wish it could come in a 16in screen size. Thank you for this great content

If your looking to buy: i have owned all three versions of the Alienware x14, 15, and 17. The 14 although very nice size was very loud and the fans were on full blast even in Minecraft. I also noticed my screen actually bent and wouldn’t lay flat. Maybe a faulty model? My x15 R2 is very good build and although it’s bigger than the 14 it stay much quieter and i carry it with me to class every day without much problem. I would go for the x15 over the 14 for sure unless you really care about the size. The 17 ran about the same loudness as the 15 and honestly i ended up going with the x15 over the other two. Just my experience 😅the x15 got some bad reviews but in my opinion it is the best size and the performance although maybe less than the 17 it lapped the 14. Thank you Mash you videos helped me make my decision you are very thorough and keep up the great content

David from MASH IT! Your channel is growing in all aspects and I'm loving it. Great content, editing and even frequency. Keep doing your thing! 🙌

I purchased an Alienware M15 R7 a few months ago. I had to get three replacements for various issues, one for CPU overheating, one for display, and the last for power supply. When I got the new power supply I sold the Alienware at a loss and purchased the Legion 7i... WOW, what a difference. The Legion has not had one issue everything has functioned perfectly. I believe Alienware has become trash in regard to quality control. I loved my first Alienware but will likely not buy the brand again after the last. The Lenovo Legion is rivaling my Macbook for work, it is all-around solid! Initial comparisons between the Alienware and the Lenovo are cool, but I would love to see how yours compare 6 months down the road.

I had the Legion 7i for about a month and now have the X17 R2 (returned the Legion due to fun whine at low loads, and they had no replacement devices and zero customer service). Spot on agree on build quality easily going to the X17. But conversely the HX is crazy fast in the 7i, better webcam, and that port layout is perfect. Have to disagree on the screens though. Maybe I got unlucky, but my 7i was nowhere near 500 nits and the X17 version with 1440p is vastly brighter and just better all around with color and contrast. I still have some testing to do on the X17 (due to that second SSD with no heat sink delaying my Linux install), but initial impression is also it handles heat better, as you said esp. over the longer haul, but in my view also internally. Both really great machines. Pretty happy I ended up with the Dell though. PS - if you are in the EU, order the mechanical keyboard and save 100 euro! Crazy, but yeah... local language (German in this case) standard keyboard cost 100 euro more than international layout mechanical keyboard. It is a great keyboard. EDIT - and thanks for the video! This is just the comparison people need to see!

Great comparison video, I've got the Legion 7i Gen 7 and been using it for a couple of months now. I love it, I wanted something a bit more portable then a 17 inch laptop but with 17 inch power and it's perfect. I can run it in quiet mode with no fan noise on a 100w usb c charger and never skips a beat for portable tasks. Then get home and hook it up to the 300w brick, bump it to performance and play what ever game I want. For portability and heavy gaming I don't think anything beats it currently

Screen- Alien'1, Size-legion1, design- Alien'1, numpad-legion'1, keyboard-Alien'1, secondary function lit - legion'1, Speaker-Alien'1, webcam- legion'1, windows hello-Alien'1, CPU-legion'1 Thanks for this video. 🙏

As usual, an awesome comparison in Mash-IT style. Loving it! 👍 I currently own razer blade 15 2022 i9 3080Ti & battery life is horrible. I gotta use it plugged in all the time. Just wondering whether it’s safe to use gaming laptop plugged in? Safe, I mean in aspect of long-term battery life & device hardwares’ health. Thank you!

Lenovo used to be my favorite keyboard, until I tried the X17, and nothing is going to beat that on a laptop

Excellent reviews thanks! I have the old Legion 7i (11th gen, 3080) and it more or less has the same chassis as the new one. The primary reason I picked the Legion over the Alienware X17 is portability. The Legion has the footprint of a 15" laptop yet packs a 16" screen and that small footprint makes a massive difference when lugging it through airports. I wish Alienware would make the design of the X15/X17 slightly thicker and lose the large footprint. The secondary reason I chose the Legion was value for money in terms of warranty, they are way cheaper than Dell for the equivalent onsite warranty.

Hi, nice review. I have to ask u a question (and also to all u guys). Yesterday I was playing God of War 3 on my legion 7i (with 3080 ti and Intel i9, 32gb ram) and the monitor shut down becoming black while pc was still running... What can it be?

What is that screensaver? I love it!

Would love a comparison of the X17 R2 and the all AMD M17 R5.

So I had a question, currently I have an Alienware x17 r1 but it always has so many problems so I'm looking at getting a different one. Do you have any recommendations for a good AMD one? Also is it possible to do a video on how to clone ssd's? Also was looking at the legion 7 slim as well as the legion 7i. Which one has better performance with one being Intel. Is there any problems between the graphics card and the processor like there was in gen 11?

Are the alienware keyboards really that satisfying to use? How would any of you describe them if you own one of these machines.

I really wanted to see the legion brick vs alienware brick side by side, a bit of miss opportunity, but good overall comparison.

for the Alienware I would recommend getting an USB hub or if you use an external monitor just connect the monitor's USB output, for convenience. Dell also supplies the heatsink if you buy the extra SSD from them. That said with the new generation of Intel CPU and RTX 40xx using almost 1000W combined I doubt the next generation of gaming laptops will be real desktop replacers ... I just can't imagine the next gen of laptops venting close to 1000W of heat.

Good video. X17R2 is great but at this point I'll hold out for the R3's. On another note, does anyone know if the M15/17 line will change it so you can get usb-c to display port in their future models? As it is now, their current models have usb-c hooked up to the integrated graphics and not the dedicated, so you can't get gsync to external monitors. Not sure why they made that decsison for the M-line.

Could you start comparing entry level specs of these machines, because I know most of us can't afford the higher end and it'd give us a lowest threshold perspective of their performance

Are you going to get the MSI titian GT77?

I bought x15 r2. How tio turn on rgb wave effect, i tried in alien fx software but didnt find option

Hi mate, quick question. A key hinge on my alienware m15 r6 has worn. Do you know where I could grab spare keys and hinges?

X17 R2 or Scar 17 SE for streaming?

The BIG issue people saying about alienware is the thermal control. when a such power laptop is running, thermal is the KEY to release the performance. for build quality, TOUGH does NOT mean better quality, the air flow, how long a laptop hardware would/could last are other aspects of "build quality". my 2c!

if yhe razer balde was in this review would it be the best or not ?

Still waiting RTX 40 series GPU. I have Scar 15 2021 1.5 years for now and so far I enjoyed it, except the lack of mux switch. Upgrading to RTX 40 mobile with zen4 mobile or RPL mobile will be the nice decision.

David, the Alienware was at 4.3ghz during the game vs 2.6 to 2.9 on the Legion.. I am not surprised therefore the Alienware CPU temp was much higher.. that must be taken into account, or since the Alienware is unlocked, limit the multiplier to 29 to get the same clock speed and an apples to apples comparison, no? The Alienware was pulling 107w on the cpu vs a max of 40 on the Legion LOL.

Can I mine crypto while play game on these laptops? Are these laptops gpu any good for mining?

If you had to choose between the legion 7i or the amd 7 vs. the legion 7 slim/7i slim which would you recommend in regards to the 2022 models

You mention offers and discount codes always being available, where's the best places to find these?

Would you recommend going with the m17 r5 ryzen 9 3070ti or X17 R1 11 gen i7 3070? Can’t come to a decision

I want to ask a question what is the diffrence between the alienware m and x series which is better

Great Dave! Best review as always! I think Alienware x17 Is It better. Build quality, monitor and correct CPU... So, good laptop for work and gaming without reaching hot temperatures. P.s. will you make a comparison between Alienware x17 r2 and MSI Gs77?

Thanks for mentioning the heat on the keyboard deck of the Legion. I find that very annoying on last year's model that I have. A minus for me on Alienware is the Command Center software. It's terrible and easily the worst among the major brands.

Where did you get the liquid background please?

Watching this by my X17r1 and could not be more satisfied with this machine, the mechanical keyboard is just too fricking good, I even put aside my mechanical keyboard to use this laptop keyboard. Design and built quality will always be the main reasons buying Alienware X series, they just look and feel so good compared to others on the market. Unfortunately, although the speakers are sound bigger on the X17, mine have an issue that the left one keep making cracking sound when playing above 50% volume, I planning to call Dell support service to get myself a new speaker and see if that fix, hope so because some people and even the tech guy of Dell said this issue could not be fix even if you replace a new speaker, this is a major flaw of the X17 lineup that I hope Dell to fix it as soon as possible in the future.

i am so jealous of the X17 R2 owners that got that slim battery pack and not the beast that came with the R1

Hello, Sorry this may not be a proper place for my post, but does anyone have any problems turning “ON” the power on the X17r2 from a cold start? Especially from overnight? I’m having these two problems below on two of the units that Dell sent me. Both units had the exact configurations like the one on this video ($4,000 USD). I have owned many Dell laptop & PC in the past 20+ years, but never run into this issues where the problems repeat itself after resetting the power. #1) The laptop will not turn “ON” with or without the power cord connect and even with the batteries almost full. I even did a power reset by disconnecting both the batteries and power cord and which work for couple times and than will not turn “ON” again…🤦🏻‍♂️ #2) when the unit finally turn “ON” after multiple pushing of the power button (10-20 times) the laptop will turn “ON” but the keyboard will not work & no respond and had to use the transparent key to login instead…🤦🏻‍♂️ #3) The first unit I receive, the headphone jack was not working at all, windows 11 can not detect it🤦🏻‍♂️ Thanks for any input…

The sound on the Lenovo is Clearer!!!!

Why aren't you using the Nvidia driver 522.25? Leaving free performance on the table...

Should I buy a laptop on Black Friday or should I wait for a 40 series? All I want is a powerful machine

Just got the 7i i9 3080ti and the trackpad is crap. Half the time it doesn’t register multi finger gestures. I freaking hate it and considering returning it. It clicks ok, and tracks one finger okay. It does get extremely hot which is to be expected. I bought the 3070 ti i7 version as well to compare the two.

I'm still yearning for the legion. It's just too polished all around, without being offensive..

Also, I noticed that you use a razer mouse pad that exactly similar mine 🤣

Appreciate the videe. Question on pricing: I'm looking to get the Legion with a 3070Ti. USA pricing is around 2000$, UK pricing is currently at £2,524.49. Anyone able to give me a heads up here?

it so crazy looking at this video and 5 months later Lenovo release a 13900hx and it trump the 12 series CPU

Thank you for watching!?. Nah! We thank you for comparing these two laptops :) Also, what are the chances of Lenovo adding mini led screen , OLED screen and possibility of adding windows hello on the next laptop? I think they might add something new and showcase it when CES comes

the sound comparison may yield a different result if you use the Lenovo equaliser software - the default setting is garbage tbh

Until Alienware brings a QHD display to the X17 and brings the numpad back (with backlit for secondary functions please!!!), not going to be bothering with them at all; before Lenovo I had only gone with Alienware but since the Y740, there has been no reason to select Alienware. Too many compromises

This is one of those situations where I listen to my heart more than my brain and think, 'Nah, the white / light grey machine is more my aesthetic." 😆

Owned a x17r2, Have been going through 3 replacements and 6 screen replacements, all of them have dead pixels. Horrible QC.

What is the max amount of ram for the Lenovo, is it 32gig or 64 gig?

Can we get legion 5i pro vs equivalent Alienware (15?) Comparison?

Which is better the legion 7 or the legion 7 slim and what is your advice getting the intel version or going with the ryzen version ?

Nice review. Btw, i actually like that the legion doesn't have windows hello IR and that you can disable the camera on a hardware level. With all the privacy issues and bad rap China has, having a windows hello face recognition implementation might become a minus for legion 7 🤣.

Which is the best when using a HDMI to a tv and the lid is closed

Link to purchase the Legion 7i is not being provided

USB 4?

Does the legion support dual sided SSD? (4TB drives)

I would want the keypad.

Can't tell looking at the X17 R2 if its chassis is made from metal or just some ultra smooth plastic, as for the price tag it's coming with I'm expecting metal all around but can't seem to find any reviews that touch on this subject.

Quick question about the specs, you said they are both spec'd with i9's but the chasis of the Alienware says it's an i7. Was it just mislabeled by Dell or is it an i7 in there?

Alien has a temperature on the processor of 95 degrees in games, this is not very good

I sent my alienware r2 back since they stupidly didn't conmect the gpu to the usb-c pipe. Basically worthless for high end vr use (index, vive etc

None at this point :) rtx4000 mobiles be promoted at ces … wait if you can, but I’d choose Lenovo as dell have gone off the boil in the past 2 years imho … I have the x17r1 but it looks basic to me, Alienware support thou is amazing.

Always love the Alienware's keyboard!

what makes them put numbpad on a gaming machine

The 7i looks future proof

there's not really any games that use all that power yet.my old 17" 120hz, 1440p, Alienware with i7 and GTX1080 with 8gb and 16gb ram plays all the latest games on flat out specs no problem. so why I want to spend thousands for what? half of these new laptops have over heating problems. or just buy a Playstation 5 done. buy used you get way more for your money. I've had a lot of laptops fail being the graphics card or motherboard from heat. I now using a cooling pad and desk fans to help keep my laptop cool. I think heat is a major problem with gaming laptops.my old Alienware has a number pad that I dnt need and lights up all the keys. so new is worse haha. and my old Alienware has Steel series speakers standard.I use a 60% separate Ducky one 2 mini Mecha. is the way to go and doesn't get warm like trying to use the laptops keyboard.

sorry, I am already an Alienware fanboy, I dont think I am getting anything else in the future )=

The forever going issue is not the best cpu gpu but how to cool them, they cant run in 28-34 degree celcius ambient, I have started keeping 2 raw eggs over my keyboard so that from morning to evening i have 2 slow boiled eggs ready for eating. Works well.

if you are prioritizing battery life on a gaming laptop, you are probably shouldn't be looking for a gaming laptop

I'd really love to see Asus Rog Strix Scar 17 SE and MSI Titan Gt77 compared to Alienware X17 at this point. Asus is almost as powerful as Titan, Titan has the 4k screen. Asus's screen is quite dim, but color accurate. I am not sure I understand all the talk about premium quality built. When something feels overly luxurious, it just makes me feel uncomfortable in front of people who cannot afford this stuff. Also, it makes me uncomfortable using it, since I am worried I might break it

I bought this with the i9 12900H , rtx 3070ti, 16gb ram , Full hd 360hz display at price of 2300CAD + Almost 300 CAD cashback by dell rewards+ Rakuten. is it good deal?

Legion 7i 100% why choose alienware?

Hmmm your Alienware has an I7 not an I9.

Legion 7i 2022 or rog strix scar 17 2022. which the best between this 2? used for 4k vid editing n gaming mostly. Anyone plss helppp meeeee

right now in uk there is option to have water cooling for laptops so go for PCSPECIALIST

Niether. Alienware m15r7 with 9 and 3080ti. Cheaper-faster and worry free. My IBM melted to my desk without overclocking it. IBM is shit.

Watching this video on the Legion 7i lol

Legion 4ever

Legion 7i wins bru

dfdd

It's quite clear, that alienware is just another overpriced laptop, as always :)

wtf alienware 100 C cpu temperature in game😲4 fan for what?🥵

AW is crap any day……..