Relativism: The Worst Belief Ever, with Greg Koukl

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Alisa Childers

Alisa Childers

2 жыл бұрын

Greg Koukl joins the podcast live from the Cross Examined Instructor Academy to talk about Postmodernism, Relativism, and subjective truth claims. Greg explains how Relativism fails to explain reality, refutes itself, and wrecks lives. Living lives firmly planted on the truth of God's Word comes with a cost in today's culture, but will ultimately set us free.
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@Mary_Kraensel
@Mary_Kraensel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this interview. It was very Providential. Lately, I feel physically, emotionally, and spiritually exhausted by the world. God has been graciously sustaining me and it helps to know that others are going through the same thing. If anyone reads this and feels alone in their struggles too, please know you're not the only one.
@suzymacmaster2824
@suzymacmaster2824 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Absolutely exhausted.
@nikkiharvey2162
@nikkiharvey2162 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@m.r.6222
@m.r.6222 Жыл бұрын
YES! Many of us are feeling the same way- but being sustained by the Holy Spirit is amazing!
@arielmarbury467
@arielmarbury467 2 жыл бұрын
I am the one who has become reclusive. I can't handle the way things are going. Pray for me to be stronger in the face of this. I am about to lose everyone I love because of this. I feel truly alone. Thank God for these podcasts! Thank you so much for this one!!!
@arielmarbury467
@arielmarbury467 Жыл бұрын
@Renee Thank you for the advice. I will look into it. It's nice to know I'm not alone or the only one struggling. I'll pray right now for you and others like us in our ever shrinking group. God is in control!
@cheerfulmouse
@cheerfulmouse Жыл бұрын
Definitely not alone. I would dare to say I have lost over 20 ish mom friends, that's not counting men who I knew from when I worked, etc. Or other ladies from my childhood, young adult years. Happened from a couple incidents online 🤷‍♀️ of me speaking what I know to be true, and it's deemed 'inherently' racist, or anti- something. My friend group is vastly different than it was 2 years ago. I'm not totally quiet, and there are other reasons I haven't been speaking out as much. You're not alone, many of us aren't on an active social internet account. Praying you can find like-minded Christians near you and online!!
@fbcpraise
@fbcpraise Жыл бұрын
So sorry you’re losing loved ones over these things. I sure understand the fear of this future that’s coming at us like a runaway train. The Lord will use these things to make us strong in faith. Remember, it’s also okay to get a little help from a pastor or Christian counselor. Saying a prayer for Ariel.
@lukethompson8942
@lukethompson8942 Жыл бұрын
Relativism, declaring dominion over reality. Seems to me it's key to, do as thy will.
@charitysChannels
@charitysChannels Жыл бұрын
I have found myself withdrawing from my friend groups as well. Primarily because I struggle with controlling my anger. And anger makes me stupid and mean. So I just have to bite my tongue.
@rmac2489
@rmac2489 2 жыл бұрын
Alisa when you said about what a chaotic time for people who are wired for truth - that hit me like a ton of bricks because that is me! I had never thought about it like that and I am pulling away from society because I am so very overwhelmed by people and what is going on in our world today. I am most dismayed by Christians who are believing so much of what is worldly and is in opposition to the things of God. Thank you for putting this into words it will be helpful to me going forward and in how I ask God to strengthen and guide. Blessings to you and your ministry!
@rmac2489
@rmac2489 2 жыл бұрын
@A. Nony Mouse yes that is what upsets me so too!! I have found a few places online where other people are like minded to and I praise God for those people. Thank you so very much for your comment - it is so good to know that others are equally concerned and care about God’s glory not being tarnished as so many seem willing to do in todays world. Blessings 😊
@itinerantpatriot1196
@itinerantpatriot1196 2 жыл бұрын
In the movie Twelve Monkeys, Brad Pitt expresses his view on the truth: "There's no right or wrong, there's only popular opinion." Sadly, that's the way it is for large swaths of the population. Relativism is the fuel that feeds the engine of hedonism, because at the end of the day that is what it all boils down to. People don't like to be told what they are doing is wrong. It's the same game the serpent ran in the Garden, one he continues to run it because it works. When I was a leadership facilitator, the subject of living in the world as it is came up during a discussion. I pointed out that alongside that is the world of the way things ought to be. Someone then asked if we shouldn't live in one and draw inspiration from the other. We discussed it for a bit but at the end I reminded them to be careful not to drift into the third way, the world of the way you want things to be. I drew from Dickens for an analogy: “This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware of them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom.” ― Charles Dickens: A Christmas Carol Believing your truth is the same as remaining willfully ignorant to the world around you and it opens your mind to machinations of the father of all lies. As Jesus said: “I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to my voice.” ― John 18: 37 That is how you navigate the swirling waters of relativism, by seeking the truth.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 2 жыл бұрын
It's all exactly what God wants according to His Perfect Plan.
@p4pdestined8
@p4pdestined8 Жыл бұрын
I would love to have responded to Pitt's character "is it true that there's no right and wrong, that popular opinion determines truth?"
@itinerantpatriot1196
@itinerantpatriot1196 Жыл бұрын
@@p4pdestined8 Well, in the movie he does make the statement from a mental hospital but you make a good point. One does lead to the other. A lot of people will believe a lie if it is said by enough people with the right level of conviction and do what is wrong if they are convinced by the crowd that it is the right thing to do. As Christians, we just have to exercise discernment and remember that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. God Bless.
@p4pdestined8
@p4pdestined8 Жыл бұрын
@@itinerantpatriot1196 Amen, brother. God bless you
@mchristr
@mchristr 2 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend Greg's (and Frank Beckwith's) book: Relativism: Feet Firmly Planted in Mid-Air. It's an easy read but will powerfully equip you to confront the culture.
@p4pdestined8
@p4pdestined8 Жыл бұрын
Great book. Essential.
@GmaJoKeepingitReal
@GmaJoKeepingitReal 2 жыл бұрын
Alisa and Greg do an excellent job of bringing clarity to this false narrative and pointing back to ultimate truth. So important and so needed for discussion. Thank you both so much for bringing this to us. We are in good company when the world hates us, for they hated Christ first. 😪 GmaJo Keeping it Real (in Faith and Truth) 💕🙏
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 2 жыл бұрын
God created the world and so loved the world that He gave His only son but then the world hates God and God hates the world and tried to destroy it. I love the logic that has it both ways.
@laurelhills8233
@laurelhills8233 2 жыл бұрын
I so appreciated this discussion. One thing that seems to be missing in the discussion is why power is so important to these people. Alisa questions why someone always comes on to her site and questions her motives, accusing her of essentially a power play, and the reason is that deconstructionism and all the critical theories now in play in the universities are based on the premise that all our beliefs and attitudes are a simply a reflection of a power structure. These ideas are Marxist in origin, and it makes sense when you understand that that they try to spin a world view based on power. Critical race theory is one such deconstructionist view. It claims all our laws are racist because they arose from white supremacists who wanted to maintain power. Everyone operates from either a position of power or a position of oppression in their world. It is blatantly about power for these people, and they don't try to hide it. They want to give power to themselves, to blacks as a punishment of whites, and to criminals who have been "oppressed." They have the power, and they intend to wield it. I have a doctorate in English earned back in the 90s, and my professors even then were heavily into deconstructionism, but an excellent book on this subject is Cynical Theories by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay.
@joyceelmer131
@joyceelmer131 Жыл бұрын
Excellent interview ! So glad to be in a Bible believing and preaching Church.
@cheerfulmouse
@cheerfulmouse Жыл бұрын
Yes!! Same here, we have many in our town, so many of my friends don't go to my church, but are still very grounded!!
@ashc2703
@ashc2703 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy I just watched your two interviews with Greg Koukl from a couple years ago last night! I spoke with my friend who is mid-deconstruction tonight and used his tools and she said “hmm that’s a good question” several times. It was so helpful! I tend to be more hardcore and spill a bunch of truth but I think this was the best tactic for her and am grateful for both of you! Im praying I can be a light to pull this girl back to Christ. Maybe I can get her to watch your channel. Is there a talk or episode of yours that you would recommend for someone like that to listen to first? Maybe sharing your testimony?
@cheerfulmouse
@cheerfulmouse Жыл бұрын
I would start with Greg's he's so simple but brilliant in his thinking and presentation. I always glean something from hearing him speak!
@Setyourhandle8080
@Setyourhandle8080 2 жыл бұрын
Just the title of this video is so refreshing.
@91Lennard
@91Lennard 2 жыл бұрын
Greg is a gem. Will truly go down as one of the best to ever do it of our generation. May God's hand continue to be on him wherever he goes and his family.
@frankalbertyap9132
@frankalbertyap9132 2 жыл бұрын
She always puts up valuable conversations. Praise God!
@ProphetPriestPoet
@ProphetPriestPoet Жыл бұрын
God bless both you, Alisa, and Greg. You are on the frontlines of the fight in this post-Christian, post-truth culture.
@janicesanders8631
@janicesanders8631 Жыл бұрын
Wishing to please the crowd, this sums everything up. Thank you for an excellent interview.
@lemogradient7526
@lemogradient7526 2 жыл бұрын
Sooo so relevant today! Currently reading Tactics and I wish I've read it sooner. I've felt that same response from seeing how much distortion of truth is happening right now, it's really overwhelming and I'm surrounded by it from professors to friends who all unconsciously (or maybe consciously) follow relativism, and it's even sadder when you see Christians who fall to that same trap...The feeling of isolating myself from all of it is strong, but I'm trying to remind myself daily that there is no greater joy in His eternal presence, and I'd rather cling to that than my own temporal feelings...
@jennyfisher3773
@jennyfisher3773 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said! We all need a compass, directions on how to live our lives! That is why the scriptures are still true today! Thousands of years old, but still relevant on how to live!
@carolfalls8466
@carolfalls8466 2 жыл бұрын
Encouraging and edifying conversation and much needed. Thank you, Alisa and Greg, for your faithfulness and boldness to speak the Truth. You will be rewarded!
@majorphenom1
@majorphenom1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾 His grace and mercy be upon you all and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯
@gregroschat8425
@gregroschat8425 2 жыл бұрын
Greg mentioned that tolerance is a one way street and I think some of that comes from Herbert Marcuse repressive tolerance ideology from the 1960s who was popular in the college circuit . The condensed version is any idea that that originates from a progressive perspective must be tolerated and any idea the originates from a conservative perspective must be shown intolerance. Great conversation!
@annipanna
@annipanna 2 жыл бұрын
Tactics is one of the most helpful books I've ever read.
@p4pdestined8
@p4pdestined8 Жыл бұрын
Great interview! You know, I always wonder how it is that "relativists" don't realize they're destroying their worldview by virtue of defending it. Why do they hold such a view? Perhaps it's because they think it's, wait for it, true? All relativists are walking contradictions.
@CosmoPhiloPharmaco
@CosmoPhiloPharmaco Жыл бұрын
Great interview. I loved Koukl's book on relativism.
@timfinch7857
@timfinch7857 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alisa for having Greg Koukl on your podcast and for always strongly and courageously defending the Gospel! I get so much from your programs. I can't thank you enough!
@josieg.3694
@josieg.3694 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video it helped me so much God bless you, we need more of the truth to be exposed in this broken world
@angela.matthews
@angela.matthews 2 жыл бұрын
Excited for this conversation! Thank you both for your faithfulness to God and proclamation of THE truth.
@MiKa-jb7nq
@MiKa-jb7nq 11 ай бұрын
Amazing interview… I need to listen a few more times with notebook in hand! God bless you both✝️❣️
@robertgrant3844
@robertgrant3844 Жыл бұрын
Well done, good and faithful servants.
@FeedScrn
@FeedScrn 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when 'something happened' when you were a kid? Your parents or parent called you on the carpet and asked: "What happened Johnny?" ... At that point, you could have told one of a thousand stories... but You Know what happened. And for that, it only went one way. That's what TRUTH is. There is only one.
@kpreality1
@kpreality1 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and insightful. God bless you both!!
@jorgeascenciophoto
@jorgeascenciophoto 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole video!! I thought I would only watch like 4 minutes, this is the first time I see your channel, great!!! Glory and praise to our Lord Jesus Christ!! ❤❤❤
@yonevenknowswife1230
@yonevenknowswife1230 2 жыл бұрын
Alisa is so beautiful 😍!! Just a wonderful example of a proverbs 31 woman!
@KathyakaNina
@KathyakaNina Жыл бұрын
Wow, what an incredible conversation on this topic! I definitely took a lot from this thank you brother and sister in Christ for your ministries and all that you do for the kingdom of God. God bless you both always
@kanji3945
@kanji3945 10 ай бұрын
Thank u. Thank u. I'm 51 and i do not remember it EVER being like this. Not like this. You can't even tell people the TRUTH, anymore! Its just crazy.
@teresapierceall6756
@teresapierceall6756 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Thank you so much!
@AndreaSmith-fx7fh
@AndreaSmith-fx7fh 2 жыл бұрын
So thankful for your podcasts!! They have brought so much understanding to what is going on with the theology of so of my friends. I have seen so many walk away from the truth and leave their faith. It breaks my heart. Thank you for being a light and speaking truth in this season of time!
@angelaarmstrong6405
@angelaarmstrong6405 Жыл бұрын
Love the both of you. Amen. ✝️📖💒🙇‍♀️🙏
@LindeeLove
@LindeeLove 4 ай бұрын
Yes, never live your truth. Always live Greg Koukl's truth.
@conniewh4189
@conniewh4189 2 жыл бұрын
Alisa, this podcast is SO good. Thank you!!!
@jonathancampbell586
@jonathancampbell586 7 ай бұрын
Bless You!
@halvardlund4782
@halvardlund4782 Жыл бұрын
It is strange. Relavatism is a type of mathematical idolatry. You change your believe relative to where you are standing. Relativism is probably the most religious of all attitudes. It is probably an application of the opposite of the Book of Judges: Teaching people to follow Baal.
@Mr.biggstrength
@Mr.biggstrength Жыл бұрын
Very good interview ☺️
@dove4108
@dove4108 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Alisa and Greg for this very important and interesting discussion! I’m going to look for the books you mentioned including“Another Gospel “:)
@johnbenedict1883
@johnbenedict1883 2 жыл бұрын
I get so much from your podcasts! Keeping us sound in faith!
@teresastaalcowley8521
@teresastaalcowley8521 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Alisa for interviewing Greg Koukl on the topics of Relativism, Postmodernism and subjective truth. I learned so much on this interview and podcast about terminology that I did not know how to describe or name and yet know something is not correct. I had the pleasure of working with Greg Koukl when he was the editor of Hope Chapel Hermosa Beach magazine in the 1980s. At the same time I worked as the calligrapher, illustrator, graphic artist and print shop assistant for Hope Chapel.
@veronica-official
@veronica-official Жыл бұрын
I wish this information was available in Spanish...It is so needed! I pray someday I will be able to interview you. It's so urgent! May the Lord continue gifting you with wisdom, discernment... This is a much needed message in the Latinamerican churches.
@kristyleavitt8007
@kristyleavitt8007 2 жыл бұрын
Really great episode! Thank you, Alisa and Greg!
@brendanpensabene9368
@brendanpensabene9368 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much these kinds of arguments are very helpful, especially today.
@PenielShober
@PenielShober 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! It was a blessing 🙏🏽
@heatherwoods5703
@heatherwoods5703 Жыл бұрын
Gah! That was so good!
@robertdouglas8895
@robertdouglas8895 2 жыл бұрын
There is only one truth. It comes from the Holy Spirit. But when they hand you over, do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you. As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.
@GSpotter63
@GSpotter63 2 жыл бұрын
When you pit your beliefs and opinions against reality which do you suppose is going to win?
@mommydena
@mommydena Жыл бұрын
That Jordan Peterson interview is AWESOME!! He really did get her. You could see the gears moving in her head. That’s why I like him so much! He makes people THINK but is never mean about it
@cjs1478
@cjs1478 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this conversation!
@kathierouse6046
@kathierouse6046 Жыл бұрын
I found a short and sweet simple definition of the word "truth". According to the Funk & Wagnalls standard desk dictionary, truth is Reality. Thus, people who don't live their lives in truth actually live in a false fantasy world. They have no idea who they really are. It's no wonder we need a Savior/Redeemer to show us who we are created to be. Now I have a better understanding of why Jesus called Himself the Way, the Truth, and the Life! Yes, yes, yes!!! 😊🤗👍❤
@richardpaggi9988
@richardpaggi9988 Жыл бұрын
Good morning from Anacortes Washington! Such good stuff here, very valuable!! Gods blessings to you both!!
@angiedutton5335
@angiedutton5335 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great conversation! Thank you.
@marydowns2736
@marydowns2736 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great podcast! We'll worth listening to!
@FromJosephtoJesus
@FromJosephtoJesus 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you!
@troy6795
@troy6795 2 жыл бұрын
Koukl! We love Greg Koukl
@Balcamion79
@Balcamion79 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mykreativekorner6923
@mykreativekorner6923 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great discussion!! Love it!
@penguinman9837
@penguinman9837 2 жыл бұрын
Good discussion. I don't agree with your characterization of Eve, but other than that, very solid.
@NewCreationInChrist896
@NewCreationInChrist896 2 жыл бұрын
Obey and seek God’s will daily. 1 Peter 3:15 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 Luke 10:27💕
@Oreo_the_CattleDog
@Oreo_the_CattleDog Жыл бұрын
Great video
@beckybates543
@beckybates543 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this thank you!
@kurthpetrich
@kurthpetrich Жыл бұрын
@22:30 reminds me of the scriptures, where it speaks of Jesus, as having come in grace, and in truth
@trevorolson2564
@trevorolson2564 2 жыл бұрын
Our feelings are great servants... But they make horrible masters.
@sherrybroers6459
@sherrybroers6459 2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t have “the story or reality” by Greg Koukl get it!! It is my favourite book!!
@fbcpraise
@fbcpraise Жыл бұрын
So good, thank you.
@andyarellanoChannel
@andyarellanoChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Really good talk, thanks!
@jonathancampbell586
@jonathancampbell586 7 ай бұрын
God Should own our reality -- and We should be Satisfied with That!
@carrythefireneilbennett9689
@carrythefireneilbennett9689 Жыл бұрын
I love his book Tactics
@kanji3945
@kanji3945 10 ай бұрын
If Everyone is living "their", truth then what is THE truth? Some Truths ARE NOT Subjective. Period.
@leonpope861
@leonpope861 2 жыл бұрын
Proper Judgment what sublime counsel 🧠 🕊 🧭
@adrianpasillas3832
@adrianpasillas3832 Жыл бұрын
EVERYTHING'S AN EITHER/OR. To prove relativism is true one would have to say... either it is, or it isn't. Some people who hold that relativism is true just don't see their self-refuting position...
@donnahenry3772
@donnahenry3772 2 жыл бұрын
So good!
@megknapp
@megknapp 5 ай бұрын
Are you still demonetized Alisa? You’ve continued to create such powerful content (I’ve just discovered your channel and have been digging in and learning so much this past month). But I pray your channel is financially beneficial for you.
@cosmichrist
@cosmichrist 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@heidi6622
@heidi6622 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent conversation
@watchmanbob3864
@watchmanbob3864 2 жыл бұрын
Modernism, Post-Modernism, Relativism, Objectivism, Naturalism, Mysticism, Rationalism, blah, blah, blah. The solution to is all is very simple: embracing the Truth revealed to us via the Word by the Holy Spirit.
@alfonsoreynosa8143
@alfonsoreynosa8143 10 ай бұрын
Is being your own hero being misunderstood? If we save someone from a burning building we are acting heroic and we are labeled as a hero, do we not make choices in our life to save us from ourselves? I don't feel this removes God from the equation, has he not given us certain gifts/abilities to do? Does He not command us to gird ourselves?
@k3630
@k3630 Жыл бұрын
An interesting revelation I received from God when I first met Jesus, was about the tree of knowledge and relativism. That the tree is the knowledge of relative good n evil. Mans version of it. The origin of divide n conquer. It's been humanity's paradigm ever since, and only from the Holy Spirit can we discern the truth beyond that. That tree is bearing full fruit now in these last days.
@Momofukudoodoowindu
@Momofukudoodoowindu Жыл бұрын
I recieved this same revelation during 2020
@kozmikcowboy8777
@kozmikcowboy8777 8 ай бұрын
Greg here again does an expert job of mixing up so much of what is wrong and right. First of all he conflates an individual search for meaning that Oprah was referring to as narcissistic.. which though can be true, not necessarily.. Jeremiah talks of the day where we would all be taught by God PERSONALLY, Jesus talks of us being Gods, Greater things than this will you do, and St.Paul backs this up in his epistles.. the problem is not individualism as such, but that which is cut off from a greater truth of LOVE expressing in our lives in Grace and Mercy. I would agree that Relativism is a severe problem.. But I also see it in quite a bit of Greg's articles on his site and the little I've read of his books... No wonder he's part of the "focus on the Family" one of the worst organizations for this spiritual pablum .. Truly hoping for Greg's spiritual growth from Peter Pan, keeping the childishness of churchianity, to a more wise soul... because like Alisa I do see some real nuggets in there as well every now and then.
@teresastaalcowley8521
@teresastaalcowley8521 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I have been called a Jezebel too and also having a Leviathan spirit. I trace it back to those who went to prophetic training school at Bethel School of the Prophets in Redding, California.
@Momofukudoodoowindu
@Momofukudoodoowindu Жыл бұрын
I was called jezebel by a narcissistic Christian. Mind you, I'm married and faithful and she was divorced and fornicating. She apologized 6 months later and said she repented for her behavior.
@teresastaalcowley8521
@teresastaalcowley8521 Жыл бұрын
@@Momofukudoodoowindu thank you for your response. Interestingly, those who have called me a Jezebel were the very ones who had all the qualities of a Jezebel.
@dorianjohnson8480
@dorianjohnson8480 Жыл бұрын
Can we set up a debate between Frank Turek & Greg Koukl on soteriology?
@anthonybray214
@anthonybray214 Жыл бұрын
SAUL the King. A narccissistic one persecuting David an example of character types.
@ramigilneas9274
@ramigilneas9274 10 ай бұрын
Your problem isn’t that people are living "their truth“… your real problem is that too many people decide to accept "objective truth“ when it contradicts the stories of the Bible.
@gjjk84
@gjjk84 2 жыл бұрын
So I listened to this on the podcast and I realized that Greg Koukl sounds easily similar to Jeff Goldblum! 🤣
@GSpotter63
@GSpotter63 2 жыл бұрын
Why anyone would think that ignoring the advice given by the very designer and maker of the entire universe and all life in favor of following some idiot making things up is mind boggling.
@aadschram5877
@aadschram5877 2 жыл бұрын
What is truth?
@davidromero2705
@davidromero2705 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@trollwhisperer1770
@trollwhisperer1770 2 жыл бұрын
This is literally arguing over useless words. "Live your truth", for believers, is the same as saying live in your level of faith and understanding of doctrine. For unbelievers, it means the same, but the real question is, why would you expect unregenerate unbelievers to know or live real truth past the image put on their conscience of the imago dei that they are? And if that's the case, then they are still living their truth, or what they have received so far. There IS relative truth because there is relative reality, like how well your day went...then there is objective truth, like the sky is blue, doesn't matter where you are, it's always blue....but then there is also eternal truth because the truth also exist outside of and transcends this current reality. It's the eternal truth that the church is entrusted with so why argue relativity or objectivity instead of living the eternal truth of the love and mercy of Christ to show the way out of this condemned world of the objectively relative?
@trevorolson2564
@trevorolson2564 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think the consequences are of creating and supporting a false reality, then forcing others to accept and promote that ideology?
@leonmills3104
@leonmills3104 11 ай бұрын
Truth is Relative
@KaoXoni
@KaoXoni 7 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear you were denonetized. I wasn't already a subscriber, changed that immediately to weigh back in on your voice - guess that's the least I can do.
@jamiewinters8138
@jamiewinters8138 Жыл бұрын
On the topic of truth (as Nancy Pearcy would say "true truth") and its purposeful absence in the postmodern, because they "speak your own"; which reminds of the "name it and claim it" Joel Osteen type of money making or authority over a situation. I am reminded of Yeonmi Park talking about North Korea, even if 2+2=4, if the supreme leader says it's 5 (because of ignorance or because he says so) it is 5, throughout North Korea - education. That was not her verbatim example, and there are many in this vein to reference; If the judge, if the king, if the Authoritarian government says so (see Nazism/Maoists/Communism/ and any other of such - the list), that is now your tyranny. Whether of 1, the tyrant, or the majority (democracy), a large group of ignorance, truth has no place in governing the model and means of peoples; more so whatever they are bent to, by their own wickedness or the suggestion of others (algorithm included).
@sparkyy0007
@sparkyy0007 Жыл бұрын
Your truth simply means you are now your very own god....breaking free of God's objective truth. This delusion has been commonly associated with consuming certain bad fruits.
@jackalsgate1146
@jackalsgate1146 2 жыл бұрын
Alright . . . words and their meanings are important. Relative and subjective are two entirely different words with two entirely different definitions. Relative - That which is true in relation to the foundation in which it exists. Subjective - Having no foundation; whereby, it is purely based on one's personal or biased beliefs. If you guys are this sloppy in your definitions, I imagine, your entire argument is just as flawed.
@OptimusNiaa
@OptimusNiaa 2 жыл бұрын
You care about precision in terms, yet are content to "imagine" their entire argument is flawed, presumably rather than listen to and evaluate it on its own merits ir lack thereof. Odd. Also, the definition for "relative" that you cite is but one of several definitions. In the field of ethics, "relativism" has a particular meaning, one that is connected to discussions of subjective vs objective. It would seem you were either unaware of this, aware but it had slipped your mind, aware but hadn't made the connection, or aware and being disingenuous.
@jackalsgate1146
@jackalsgate1146 2 жыл бұрын
@@OptimusNiaa 1) When I said, I Imagine their entire argument would also be flawed, means: I imagine their entire argument would also be flawed. Good for you, you actually understood what I meant. 2) The other parts of your comment are irrelevant, seeing as how, I didn't need to focus on the terms - a) Objective b) Absolute They don't apply to the subject of this video. You're upset, that I'm being critical of a religion, that does nothing else but criticize other religions. 3) Relative truth is the subject of this video.
@lark8356
@lark8356 2 жыл бұрын
Grace and Peace to you. I would be delighted to discuss this with you elsewhere. May I reach you by email, or will you locate me on Facebook Messenger?
@mitchelll3879
@mitchelll3879 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackalsgate1146 oh for God's sake, get a life please...ur approaching everything from a secularism worldview instead of abiding unchanging Christian worldview... give me a break
@jackalsgate1146
@jackalsgate1146 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchelll3879 You - "You're approaching everything from a secular worldview." Me - I'm approaching things from a realistic view. You're the delusional one. 1) Everything you just said is irrelevant. The words: relative, subjective, and objective, are words we use in order to communicate with each other, but apparently, you think words and their meanings don't matter. 2) According to you, when Christians use words, those words are somehow spiritual; but, when secular people use the same words, it carries a different meaning.? 3) That's all well and good; however, maybe you should just stop talking to secular people then; considering, the apparent communication gap.
@anthonybarber3872
@anthonybarber3872 Жыл бұрын
Go get em tigers!😁
@cedarberryclanblackberryac6447
@cedarberryclanblackberryac6447 2 жыл бұрын
...humans were created "to image their Creator", and they are not "proper humans" unless they are "imaging their Creator"; the term "Christianity" is probably not a good term to use... Yeshua came as the Creator in human form as an example for us to know how to "image our Creator" properly; as followers we really need to work on our worldview to gain the perspective of YHWH's people throughout the timeline of the entire historical Biblical narrative.... we can't image our Creator without knowing our Creator; and a detailed examination of His expectations and interactions with His people...
@savedbymylovegodthelordjes8394
@savedbymylovegodthelordjes8394 2 жыл бұрын
praise the only true living LORD and GOD bless you all glory be to the HOLY TRINITY forever and ever amen 💖✝✝✝...
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