Alisa is a model interviewer. Love the active listening posture. She's really engaged and not just planning the next thing she wants to say. She gives input but never interrupts. I need to practice this skill in real life.

The perk of not finding this great video until three months after it’s published, is that part two is already available! 😍

This was so GOOD, riveting. I wouldn't mind a part 3.

The subject of tolerance and being right as Greg explained has always perplexed me in that most are closed from the get go, being very guarded not looking for truth but rather wanting to either continue on their path of choices and or defense of their beliefs and values. It is so disappointing with the degree of blame shifting becoming so prominent that your love for them is totally missed and the relationship either dies or is estranged.

Oh man! I need his book, he’s wonderful.

I like the Sermon on the mount. It is so good.

I have been reading your book based on the first conversation with Alisa. I appreciate having the tools in my hands. It's already pretty marked up!

Invaluable. Will watch it many times in order to navigate conversations with Univ. students with grace. Thank you!!

Love STR and Greg's clear thinking. I've used so much of the materials on their website.

This is great! Thank you both for all you do

I kept hearing about this book from different people I listen to on KZfaq or podcasts. I immediately bought it while listening to this video. I’ve just started it, and I’m telling all my mom friends they have to read it and get ready to train their children. I just got a message today from one who just bought it. We as parents need this tool to be able to give our children the tools to not be talked out of their faith by people who don’t even know what they believe. Thank you for all you do on your channel!

This discussion was a real blessing.

Wonderful interview. Thank you for part1 and part 2!

Just ordered the book. For the last year I’ve noticed the progressive path our church is going and we have a lunch meeting with our pastor in 2 weeks. I have my specific questions planned and support for the Bible’s teachings vs. the culture. Ought to be interesting.

What’s interesting is traditional cultures did and still do want the girl to be a virgin, not because they wanted to restrict the woman, but because, in the case of pregnancy, they wanted the MAN to take responsibility for the child.

Thanks for the discussion you've really helped me with being more relaxed and less stressed when it comes to talking to a housemate about Christianity, she is clearly interested, but 8s still rejecting it. I felt really scared with being the primary person she talks to about this, but I feel more able to handle the conversations now.

Really enjoyed these conversations! Thank you!

Good, good discussion! Go get em tigers!

Excellent. Buying the book...

Great interview!

Ordering his book... really enjoyed this 2 part interview.

God Bless you Alisa! Amen!

I have known this man for several years now. He is not a Christian (I am) and I have often shared my faith with him. The first time I did he listened carefully (didn’t interrupt) and when I had passionately finished he told me that he had founded a church which he named The Church of Ultimate Truth (or C.U.L.T.) for short. So I avidly asked him questions about it. I could not believe his answers! Apparently, according to him mankind is evolving spiritually over eons of time. At the moment (he said) mankind is like children in the playground who fight and tussle with each other, but in some indeterminate time we will evolve into pure love and reach a god-like status. I won’t go into all that I said in return, but suffice to say, the bottom line is he does believe in the concept of a God, but actually got agitated and angry with me when I told him he could know God on a personal level through Jesus Christ. He has written reams of papers on his philosophy but he never shares his ‘truth’ with anyone much and admits he is the only member of his ‘church’. He accepts and endorses my faith, but there is no way I can penetrate his wall. He is dying of heart failure now and I so want him to know Jesus, but he is adamantly sticking to his belief that nothing exists after death. I have now purchased the Tactics book to see if it can help me get through to him (apart from praying for him ongoingly). It’s SO frustrating not being able to get through to him!

Great discussion 😊

The wisdom that comes from above is first of all pure, then peace loving

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Someone at my women's group this morning asked how to talk to their college age children. I'm going to take tactics to the church service with me tomorrow to see if she would like to borrow it from me. I just finished it a few days ago and I think it would be so helpful for her!

Loved this!

Awesome discussion. Thanks, Alisa!

This is brilliant! I wish I could remember this stuff 😀

Excellent!!! Thank you

Just reminded me I need to reread his tactics book. Haven't read it since it was first released I think

Here's the issue: when you come into a conversation withe the Truth, you don't entertain the possibility that YOU may have something to learn.

Former Crystal Cathedral head pastor Robert Schuller is known to have said he didn't believe sin really existed as we understood it in the Bible. That was in the 1980s! This relativistic Christianity has been brewing in Western churches for a long time.

Wow wow Wow!!!!!! Great instruction!

Part 3 please!!! 😭😭😭

I bought the audiobook. 😃

Thank you

I was talking with a non-Christian and suffering was brought up as a reason for non-belief. I asked "Why does suffering show that God doesn't exist?" She avoided the question and got round it by saying how bad suffering is. When I repeated the question she got annoyed with me. People often won't want to engage with answering questions. That's okay, keep asking questions if you have the platform to.

Is there a Rosetta Stone doc showing some common terms and their definitions that christians use and which are also used by Mormons, JW's, Prog Christians and any others we might come across?

Does Alisa have any videos where she talks to a progressive Christian? That would be good to watch

Can any of you out there recommend a sound Bible study I can do? I have just left my church- for all the reasons this video talks about and it does sadden me that the teachings became so confused. I need to correct the “off” teachings and get back to the truth.

I've actually encountered someone who said "evil doesn't exist!"

I didn’t see the link in the description to Greg Koukl’s PragerU lecture or the link to his 45 minute lecture on tolerance - am I missing something or is there a reason the links could not be provided?

Man there needs to be one of these for talking with conservatives. "Disagreement = Not believing the Bible?"

Liberal agnostic here. Serious question. Are y’all really encountering that many progressives who are initiating these types of conversations with you? Where the progressives are the ones trying to prove a particular point or advance a particular view? I’ve watched all of part 1 and 2 with Alisa and Greg, and most of what I understood from Greg is that his tactics seem to be rooted in a defensive approach, where you’re literally defending against an accusation (such as the one about being judgmental or bigoted); as opposed to an offensive approach, where you might be the one advancing a particular point. I just can’t figure out how this would work unless liberals/progressives (religious or not) are the ones approaching you to start a conversation with a particular point or even an accusation. Does that really happen a lot? Or is the idea that you (the conservative folks) would be the ones initiating these defense-oriented conversations with progressives?

Paul the Apostle speaks of moral relativism when he refers to matters of conscience.

So, this is and part 1 are the first videos I've seen of yours, and as an atheist, I obviously have a lot of thoughts. Despite what you said near the end, it feels like you are trying to win the argument or change the person's mind rather than just have a discussion with them. Next, I am very surprised by what Greg said about christians being more willing to admit their uncertainty. Maybe it's the way he phrased the question, having doubts is very different from saying I could be wrong about the whole thing. But in my experience, christians are never willing to admit that a God may not exist. I haven't looked at the rest of the channel, but I think having a video about how to converse with an atheist would be helpful too. Quoting bible verses at us and saying things like, "you know morality is objective." just annoys us more than anything. Which I guess if that's your goal, then congrats... Anyway, if anyone wants to practice stuff from these two videos, I'm always down for a good chat, and I usually stay pretty civilized, lol.

Though certainly a lot of people think relative truth is all about "you be you bro...", I think this whole part of the conversation around "relativism" may be a bit wandering into strawman territory. Seemingly like a theme in these discussions, my observation/judgement is that ironically, definition of terms seem to slide around, which is OK, as long as it's understood. But I think all too often, we all can slip between what we mean and what is understood. So that being said: Objective truth is a bit different than (Christian) absolute truth - something is absolutely true in all ways, at all times in the same way - like god himself purportedly. Objective truth is true in regards to a stated or understood goal/perspective/frame of reference. Take American Baseball... Does it absolutely exist or objectively exist? Ask a person from 1750... Is it objectively true that instant replay is available to settle a disputed call? Ask a person in 2013... Does Baseball even need to exist? Take an apple. What color is the Golden Delicious? Is it objectively yellow or absolutely yellow? Ask a dog, ask a tree, ask god (who should probably be able to "see" outside of the human visual color spectrum). Yes, for the most part, we make truth statements that are objectively true and allow us to live and continue to move about our lives holding the "truth". But there are probably a lot of ways we could render these "false", just by changing the frame of reference. But maybe more accurately, showing that what one thinks is "T" true is really only a small sliver of an emergent property of reality that we have the unique benefit of being able to understand and communicate to others. To be able to understand absolute truth, would indeed like the professor was touted as saying and like scoffed at by these two, only the maximally everything god Christianity seems to portray would be able to know absolute truth.

Do you have any physical evidence for JC?

40:00. Love Defined.

Love is defined in the Bible.

34:30. Tolerance defined.

I always appreciate these podcasts. But why are you editing them on "FAST FORWARD?" Why are you speaking so fast? How do you expect the listeners to hear and make sense of what you've said? How are you benefiting by doing this? I for one do not think it's working.

27:55 If only Greg would have ended that sentence, “you have your small ‘t,’ I have my small ‘t,’” with, “let’s have a T party!” 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

How to talk to evangelicals who don't know how to listen!

Whaddo you meme by that

Postmoderns really do A LOT of mental gymnastics.

I would love to see YOU have a conversation with a Progressive Christian. Why are YOU avoiding that?

Everybody has a book!….. how liberal!🤪🤣😂

A great advert for progressive Christianity....

Why assume that everyone can be "converted" to Christianity. Jesus gave us another option in dealing with people who are set in their beliefs... Mat 7:6 "Never give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them with their feet and then turn around and attack you."

They do not see the problem of relativism because they are not born again. They need the gospel.

Relativism always makes me think of The Taming of the Shrew. It seems the whole world has become the shrew.

Gender dysphoria has a high suicide rate because the culture is judgmental, not because of gender dysphoria itself. And just so you know, not all individuals who gender transition have had gender dysphoria.

Anyone teaching false doctrine is not of the lord(?). So, disagreement more than implies someone thinks someone is going to hell to be tortured for eternity. Nothing more hateful than that.

What do I do if my girlfriend is a progressive Christian :(

Interesting about tolerance tho’ … but how tolerant have Christians been of others throughout the history of Christianity (not only of ideologies or religions)? How tolerant was Luther of the Jews, or Calvin of the Anabaptists, or Catholics of Protestants or Protestants of Catholics or Puritans of Quakers? Seems disingenuous for you to be lecturing people on ‘tolerance’ given the intolerance which is rife amongst fundamentalist Christians and Christians in the past?!

Greg & Prager U video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e7R7faV1srXOpGg.html

Ad hominem attacks, they’re called

This is a guide for bad faith arguments. You're not seeking real connection, just defense and redirection. "Get in the drivers seat". God is in the drivers seat.

Progress Christian? What does that even mean? Either you understand the doctrine, or maybe at least have a philosophy of the doctrine. I don't see a progressive gateway

How do I talk to regressive Christians? I thought I'd ask you all since you are.

Jesus asked questions because He loved them, and was serving. He actually cared what they seemed to need. . I have dealt with my own needs deeply. Most people have some basic needs, that are common. If you don’t know your own troubles, then it’s not possible to understand others. The issue that is brought up is not equality, but equity. The ideology of equity is the Marxist view. Equity has been made known to be the issue. But these 2 words are not the same. When i get into a conversation with someone who wants to fight, i get quiet and listen for the principle or main issue in conversation. I am not interested in trying to prove a point to someone who can not understand Spiritual truth. Oil and water. Someone is steeped in human wisdom or trends are really not worth the time. If someone will not accept the Gospel, then there is no point to share more. All relativism is subjective. Subjectivity is not objectivism which is not Truth that never changes. Gravity is not relative…..sometimes it works and sometimes not? All physical Laws, are truth and never changes. There are spiritual Laws as well. These are Laws like sowing and reaping….contemporary as GIGO. God’s Laws are black and white. That is why Grace is given to allow life to continue under these never changing Laws. Human wisdom is relative. God’s wisdom is not. But in Hebrews 4? I think it says that God saw the need for the New Covenant and grace was given to us everywhere to all who believe by faith in Christ. Create questions to ask them about their thoughts on things that don’t change. In Jeremiah 9? God tells us to know Him. Do you like it when someone comes into your house unwelcome? Jesus said TO THE JEWS, do not condemn…only God can condemn to death. But we are told that as Christians we “have the mind of Christ and do judge all things, which means to EXAMINE ALL THINGS. Does someone examine the produce at the grocery store? Does someone examine who you allow into your home? Is that ok? That’s why you must deal with all of your own insecurities before you can STAND in the TRUTH. According to your views of intolerance you are correct. But i know that i have a different point of view. What is intolerant about me? Is it part of the issue. Do not let them take you into the weeds and away from the issue or principle. That is the most common thing that happens in a conflict. I speak for myself only. You are all over the place with issues. Too much info. But God also gave Paul a thorn in the flesh. Why don’t Christians do like God says and “go to someone in private?” If you believe all the Bible, why don’t you protect all of it?

I would not want to get into a "religious" argument with anyone. Whatever you believe, O.K. Whatever I believe, O.K. Let's not get into a shouting match over an "invisible" being or whatchamacallit. I won't try to convert you, and you won't try to convert me. That's it.

Evangelicals don't engage in dialogue. They come armed with presuppositions and their biblical talking points until u simply walk away exhausted.

Great discussion. However, I would prefer that you try to verify that your beliefs are the original biblical Christianity, not what you call, "historical Christianity". In multiple instances they are not the same, as much of Christianity has been repackaged through Greek philosophical thought instead of the original Hebraic thought. No, I am not referring to the so-called "Hebraic Roots" movement, just plain old Hebrew thinking. This is Paul's hermeneutic. He writes, "What, then, is the advantage of being a Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? Much in every way. First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God." Romans 3:1-2 This shows that Paul counts the Jewish understanding of Scripture as being the most reliable. Of course, even within the Judaism of Paul’s day there were differences, but somewhere within those differences was the correct understanding, in contrast to a non-Jewish, typically Greek philosophical or allegorical reading that rejected the Hebraic basis of the texts. This aberrant misunderstanding of the text is what has led to so much confusion within Christianity today.

It's easy to discuss things when you have no representative of the opposing view.

I wonder if Greg Koukl actually believes the stuff he says. After all, he is just another career Christian. His income is dependent on him saying this stuff.

More homophobia. Oh well. Time to move on.

10:00 There you go. The same sex marriage debate was about gay men and women getting the same affirmation of their relationships that hetero couples get. Period. It was not about paedophilia, polygamy or incest. The anti camp refused to clearly state their objections to same sex marriage, but relied on the incoherent definition argument* and lumping gay relationships in with practices most people find disgusting. Do believers find Richard Dwakins equation of instructing children in your faith with child abuse a convincing argument? No, you think it is crude and insulting. (As do I) So why do you think would a proponent of marriage equality respond positively to a strawman argument that implies that same sex marriage is the same as child marriage? That not a stone in the shoe but a fist to the face. *Including "bodily union" in the definition would have prohibited all marriages between hetero couples incapable of coitus through accident or birth defect and put in jeopardy of annulment any marriage between voluntarily celibate couples. William Craig's "debates" are as enlightening as a robocall. He just stands there and reads from a script often irrelevant to the question he was asked. He is smug, condescending and loves the ad hominem questioning of the questioner's knowledge or expertise. And the Kalam cosmological argument is honestly a tedious exercise in question begging. He is only convincing to people desperate to be convinced.

'Having sex outside of wedlock causes pregnancies and STD's'. So does sex in marriage. Yikes, that was cringe... They seem like nice people, but I dont appreciate these immature word games. Speaking of marriage, imagine if a couple communicated with these 'tactics', that would be quite the toxic manipulative marriage. "I am not feeling loved or respected right now'...'I don't know what you mean by love and respect, please define your beliefs'... Believe what you want, but pay attention to the context in which people are saying these things about conservative Christianity. This discussion is not happening in a historical-cultural vacuum. This affects the well being of real people, its not a playground word game. Why do so many think you are against the gay community? Could it be because of what they have seen with their own eyes and heard with their own ears for decades? Why do so many think Evangelicals are bullys? Could it be because 81% of them voted for one? I don't think that I have the written word of God himself at my disposal, do you? I don't want your marriage to be illegal, do you want my friends to be? I do not think you are going to Hell, do you think I am going there? We both have our beliefs, but don't pretend that mine are 'just as intolerant'.

Alisa looks beautiful