All About Apple Vision Pro!

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It's Apple Vision Pro week! Marques sits down with Andrew and David to answer all their questions and even a few that we scraped from the KZfaq comments of the videos we put out this week. If you want to know whether or not you can use the Apple Vision Pro with a Windows computer or if you can hot swap the battery, this is the episode for you. Afterwards, we talk about how the new App store rules in the EU before wrapping it all up with trivia.
Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:40 Apple Vision Pro Headband and Fit
06:24 Eyesight
11:13 Eye Tracking
16:05 Using it as main computer
25:22 Arm tracking
29:33 Trivia question
30:36 Visible (Sponsored)
31:36 Q&A About Apple Vision Pro
44:46 Does it work with Windows?
47:17 What is FaceTime like?
54:01 Setting up the headset
57:54 Using non-Apple earbuds
59:59 How long will Marques use it?
01:02:33 Focus distance
01:06:04 Hot swapping batteries
01:08:30 Trivia question
01:09:08 Ad
01:18:56 Apple v EU
01:35:03 Trivia Answers
01:39:58 Outro
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@canisity 4 ай бұрын

Sorry Marques for having the Vision Pro on all the episode.

@peterlumwanga428 4 ай бұрын

I think he loves it

@_daniel.rad_ 4 ай бұрын

That heavy 🪨 vision pro 😮😮

@gregorycave 4 ай бұрын

You guys should ask Apple to rename the band the Dua Loopo Band and have Dua Lipa make a commercial promoting it.

@jonny2085 4 ай бұрын

Why does this look so much more normal than Google glasses

@ATShields935 4 ай бұрын

Marques probably felt like he had a neck workout the morning after recording.

@HenningGu 4 ай бұрын

David's laugh after he said he wanted Marques to feel pain was gold.

@HotHeadCringe 4 ай бұрын

How was that *gold*

@jasfx7241 4 ай бұрын

nah that was silver i think

@strider_hiryu850 4 ай бұрын

i love his plan totally backfired and just allowed Marques to cheat at trivia 😂😂😂

@willsintheair 4 ай бұрын

I'm a flight attendant and my advice is to simply let the FAs know that it's okay to tap you on the shoulder, that way you won't miss service. We deal with people wearing sleep masks all the time. It's really not that different. Also, you'll only be allowed to use it in cruise, just like a laptop.

@oceanlnr9414 4 ай бұрын

Has your airline already given you policy on when this thing can be used?

@kream770 4 ай бұрын

@@oceanlnr9414I assume the policies in place are pretty generalized, anything distracting shouldn't the used during transitional periods cause u gotta stay ready to evacuate

@tylerblack9220 4 ай бұрын

Who said you aren't ready to evacuate with it on? Lol

@RGGeek 4 ай бұрын

@@tylerblack9220lol

@willsintheair 4 ай бұрын

Yep! We've had regs for VR headsets for years. It's the same as your laptop.@@oceanlnr9414

@daformayor 4 ай бұрын

Marques adding a link into a real conversation 😭😭 “ see for more information “ 🤣🤣

@chazjones0504 4 ай бұрын

That ad with Marques' real eyes was so jarring after the first half hour of the episode

@zyork24 4 ай бұрын

Everyone is gonna have really thick necks like NASCAR drivers from wearing the Vision Pro for so long

@bobsmith12345 4 ай бұрын

maybe it will offset the damage from looking down at our phones for so long

@asimmoideen5960 4 ай бұрын

more like a droopy face, the 2nd gen would prolly fix that issue tho or they'd do what apple has always been doing, be stubborn about it for a couple generations before finally fixing it and then putting it on for the first time would make your head whiplash because you were expecting it to be front heavy but it wasn't (i'm getting too ahead of myself XD)

@PSYCHOV3N0M 4 ай бұрын

Corey Taylor is ready.

@The_MEMEphis 4 ай бұрын

@@bobsmith12345 Probably gonna fry our eyes quicker

@shuttzi9878 4 ай бұрын

It actually makes your neck weaker since you're not really exercising the muscles but rather overload them

@hansen-house 4 ай бұрын

The comedy value of Waveform keeps going up. I really love this podcast, y’all! Thanks Marques for demo’ing the practical wearability limit over two hours. Super helpful, also hilarious.

@exonorated5092 4 ай бұрын

I would like to petition for Marques wearing the vision pro every episode 😅

@junnyben1514 4 ай бұрын

Hell nah😂. Save the brothers neck man

@singyestudio608 4 ай бұрын

@@junnyben1514 lol...

@MylesKillis 4 ай бұрын

@@junnyben1514he’ll be fine.

@icedhelixx 4 ай бұрын

Love how there is editing at 19:02 to simulate what the screen recording would look like. Reminds me of the noise cancelling simulation you guys do for headphones. Awesome stuff!

@officialblue967 4 ай бұрын

nice pfp

@faris9 4 ай бұрын

Was hoping somebody else caught this

@sheldoncarter6609 4 ай бұрын

Having your tasks chase you is a genius idea. Whats that Garys mod game with the faces chasing you down and it they catch you... You die... But instead of faces, your chores.

@nexusyang4832 4 ай бұрын

Wash me!!!!!! 😮😮😮😮😮

@nunyabusiness6735 4 ай бұрын

I literally LOLed so many times in this episode, especially Marques reading the particle info 🤣🤣

@t.pisani8239 4 ай бұрын

Elliot's idea of your to-do list chasing you around is genius!

@JoveroIV 4 ай бұрын

The subtle foveated rendering that was happening while Marques was talking about it was a nice touch 😎

@mattjgraham 4 ай бұрын

That time of the week again guys! It’s the weekend in the UK 🇬🇧 😊😊. Friday routine starts with Waveform

@none_the_less 4 ай бұрын

Hi Matt

@HouseOfFunQM 4 ай бұрын

Just opened about 300 pull requests 5 minutes before code freeze. Ready for a beer and a podcast!

@aarong.3749 4 ай бұрын

“You guys look way better in VR”😂😂😂 Ate em up

@Waldoraymond 4 ай бұрын

Sweet little edit to adding the rendering effect as Marques describes it. 19:05 Waveform editing always on point.

@patrickday3393 4 ай бұрын

It would be so cool if we had a podcast but like from Marques’s perspective while wearing the Vision Pro. That would be really cool.

@jeesobeeso 4 ай бұрын

i can FEEL the relief just imagining taking it off after over an hour and a half

@pumpuppthevolume 4 ай бұрын

meh

@k.vn.k 4 ай бұрын

I can FEEL the excitement to go back to it again after you take it off for 5 minutes.

@alexandruciordas4941 4 ай бұрын

@@k.vn.kwhy? real life is so much better

@ylihao 4 ай бұрын

And the first thing he said was “You guys looked wayyyyy better… in VR” 😂

@gcocatre 4 ай бұрын

I laughed so hard throughout the entire episode. Marques wearing the magic goggles and pointing at invisible objects in space was hilarious. Best episode ever.

@toothzombie 4 ай бұрын

I like how respectful towards each other this crew is.

@Cesar06290 4 ай бұрын

Watching on Vision Pro. what a beautiful time to be alive

@D_N57 22 күн бұрын

Hahaha

@aalindtyagi9413 4 ай бұрын

I'm more surprised at the fact that Apple probably has been preparing for their Vision Pro for quite a long time. I think one of the big reasons why their user interface and integration is so seamless is because of all the Face ID data that they've received. When Memoji's first came out, it was a feature to laugh at, but looking back, it was probably the foundation for many of the features the Vision Pro has today. Pretty cool imo.

@shapeofsoup 4 ай бұрын

Agreed. In fact, I think they wanted even more development before this release-like they probably already have a pretty detailed longterm roadmap for this thing. Apple clearly was in a scramble to release the Vision Pro when they did.

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 4 ай бұрын

Also people still use Memoji a lot.

@soberanisfam1323 4 ай бұрын

Pure fanboy speculation with no receipts

@Kisame.Hoshigaki 4 ай бұрын

@@soberanisfam1323people can’t speculate without being a fanboy?

@soberanisfam1323 4 ай бұрын

@@Kisame.Hoshigaki context, reading comprehension and estimation points to fanboy , you ok there?

@imaginedbyDavid 4 ай бұрын

3:08 "Miles" better lol😂

@tejwindersandhu4054 4 ай бұрын

This launch feels like if iPad came before the iPhone, which was originally intended, but we got the bigger, bulkier product first and the real revolution will come later. Still excited for the potential.

@thomusbasnet3577 4 ай бұрын

I would love to go skiing with the Vision Pros

@user-un5gt1qc4z 4 ай бұрын

ask Joanna Stern. she won vision pro reviews

@rehatbir. 4 ай бұрын

Joanna stern did it. Check her review

@Mobik_ 4 ай бұрын

and getting glasses cutting your eyeballs in the process

@IDKisReal2401 4 ай бұрын

Skision Pro

@busiestytnerd5175 4 ай бұрын

Apple Vision take: The eye tracking thing is a problem BUT there’s a solution. Let eye tracking be the default, no controller, input method, then add controllers of all different shapes :) we already have keyboards, add a “mouse” like quest pro, add a rifle and pistol gun for games or racing wheel, add a pen for drawing…

@namechecksout6300 4 ай бұрын

Ngl, I’m convinced. This is the most sociable VR headset ever conceived.

@PianoMan347 4 ай бұрын

19:00 nice touch adding the out of focus effect that Marques was talking about

@IanZainea1990 4 ай бұрын

5:36 I agree, you do think "this is a sci-fi technology" but then you think "I guess I don't want all sci-fi tech to be real"

@Futurama10000 4 ай бұрын

ok boomer

@MaximusFood 4 ай бұрын

Eyesight isn't about being rude or polite, it's an outside indicator of what the wearer is experiencing. There's a huge practical element to that.

@derekmedeiros 4 ай бұрын

This episode was hysterical. Thanks for making my day, Marques 😂

@bsmarques 4 ай бұрын

The best thing of Vision Pro is not the headset, it’s the eye tracking interface! As you mentioned in the podcast, having a keyboard and looking at one window and replying there, and just switching to google docs and typing there is very useful and fast. If MacBooks came with a similar eye tracking we could have interfaces without mouse or touchpad, just add a “confirm” and “right click” buttons to the keyboard and boom. It just need to be as precise as Vision Pro

@DeepDishPizza 4 ай бұрын

I was just playing Microsoft Flight Simulator on my Vision pro through Game Pass and it was amazing.

@eternalbeing3339 4 ай бұрын

Interesting. It was being streamed through xcloud?

@DeepDishPizza 4 ай бұрын

@@eternalbeing3339 Sure was.

@varunsuresh22 4 ай бұрын

The focus blur when y’all spoke about the screen recording.. noted with a smile!

@Youngarchitect 4 ай бұрын

I watched this whole episode from the Vision Pro

@user02350 4 ай бұрын

David throwing shots at the Apple Vision Pro for the entire video was absolutely hilarious

@uKoalele 4 ай бұрын

can't wait until all 5 of you sit there with the Vision Pro asking questions straight from chatgpt and answering directly from wikipedia - tuture we all dreamed about

@strawhatsmanager 4 ай бұрын

the editing on the podcasts are so good !! kudos to whoever edited this specific one and the others

@conzure 4 ай бұрын

Marques looks dazed when he takes the headset off. Like he just woke up from a nap lol.

@doompod 4 ай бұрын

That’s really how you feel. I’m looking into short term and long term effects of wearing VR headsets. I actually think staring at small screens up close for long periods of time might have serious long term effects…but I gotta do my own research. I know there are reports that they do.

@alexandruciordas4941 4 ай бұрын

@@doompodit really doesn't have long term effects for adults, it's just temporary unless youre a kid which is still developing

@exil3dlivecom 4 ай бұрын

All vr headsets do that

@0x0michael 4 ай бұрын

@@doompodHCI researcher here, you'd be surprised smartphones and TV screens are worse than VR. It's about the focus of the eyes and the lens in VR are about 2 meters away

@icslush 4 ай бұрын

Limit of 1 mirrored display is classic Apple walled garden. They want the optimal performance at all times regardless of theoretical or preferred use case. You can have virtual monitors run on quest with virtual desktop or immersed. Multiple or super high res will cook the device until it slows to a halt, but they let you.

@saqlaq96 4 ай бұрын

But is it really a feature if it halts the device? I don’t have one so IDK but if every time I try to use it the device fails surely I can grant them a point for giving me the option

@icslush 4 ай бұрын

@@saqlaq96lol. No, you can use 1-2 virtual monitors without any significant lag. The issue occurs when you have too many things happening simultaneously

@jason-740 4 ай бұрын

Marques-the person who’s spent exponentially more time using the device-seemed genuinely excited about it. So though everyone else seemed determined to find every nitpicky flaw, Marques’s reaction bodes well for Apple long term.

@Smojero 4 ай бұрын

And bad for humanity

@sidsid6380 4 ай бұрын

The cool thing about this 1st gen device is that there are so many opportunities to make improvements moving forward.

@RoherynYT 4 ай бұрын

On the whole vision thing, they kinda just look like shaded goggles. It feels like someone's talking to you with sunglasses on (much bulkier, but the point stands). You don't need to see their eyes through sunglasses, you can still tell they're paying attention by looking in your direction.

@iatia88 4 ай бұрын

0:04 Thinking about going for a walk outside with help / security of course wearing the Apple Vision Pro. 😊😂

@JosephHerzog 4 ай бұрын

I’m glad they finally realized the carrying case looks like a spacesuit *posted from Moon Environment on Apple Vision Pro*

@stellarsimplified Ай бұрын

All the great convo - but Andrew going "the last dandelion..." was what really got me :D

@markusfsxde 4 ай бұрын

david actually letting people speak makes this much more enjoyable, thanks!

4 ай бұрын

Transparency mode is essential - I usually go out to wal kthe dog and stop by the supermarket etc. on the way. I leave the earbud case at home. I'm absolutely not removing them to talk to cashiers and other people.

@KlutchAndJerel 4 ай бұрын

I think the “what’s the killer app?” argument is interesting. Because we only talk about that when a product category is new, and we forget about as the product ages. Because, I don’t see the smartphone or the tablet as having a “killer app”. It’s a combo of everything you can do. If you had to choose one, it’d prolly just be the web browser. So I see the focus of the Vision Pro needing a ‘killer app’ to not be a super useful question

@wisdomyaw03 4 ай бұрын

You couldn't say it any better. It's the same thing I've also been thinking about any time I hear that "killer app" argument.

@Benson-JG-Mturi 4 ай бұрын

I think the apple vision pro are the only headsets that you can walk around with in public and with time they'll get smaller and much better.They really have this nice fashionable look.

@Desbo 4 ай бұрын

Brilliant, brilliant brilliant video. Such fun. Wow, great cast of people, with the superstar himself Marques. Awesome.

@coreys9584 4 ай бұрын

Loved Ellis’ envisioning of a todo app for VisionPro where urgent/overdue tasks aggressively chase you, vs. low key tasks just chill 😂

@picco75 4 ай бұрын

The fact that Marques have been much more silent in this episode shows how much it isolate you from the world around you even if you're trying to be there.

@nexusyang4832 4 ай бұрын

You’re right!!!

@GowthamNatarajanAI 4 ай бұрын

When was he quiet?

@NrFive 4 ай бұрын

I don’t now why but that first trivia round had me rolling on the floor! 😂🤣

@Luztinn 4 ай бұрын

I think a fix for the keyboard issue is to sort of dynamically unbind eye selection when the keyboard is out, allowing the user to hover over a key and select with a pinch (as well as allowing the ability of using 2 hands for pinching on the keyboard simultaneously). But also having swipe feature where you pinch on the first letter, swipe around and release on the last letter. It might take some practice, but if the keyboard is able to be moved, resized and geo-locked, people would get a hang of where every key is in space and probably wouldn’t have to look at the keyboard, as well as type significantly faster

@jeffreygreen7860 4 ай бұрын

Apple could do such wonderful things with iSight if they wanted. Can you imagine cartoonie eyes being projected that depend upon Vision Pro's guess of your reaction or state of mind.

@kokonotsu_j 4 ай бұрын

19:25 so that’s why Marques has those much higher fidelity internal recordings compared to other reviewers

@pmbuthia4210 4 ай бұрын

I appreciate the editor's work of adding Miles when Andrew Cassualy said "miles better" I also appreciate the editing of the camera to show how recording videos using the vision pro can focus on the subject and leave the background blurry

@s.tunafish 4 ай бұрын

This was one of the best podcast episodes! I've had to force myself not to laugh multiple times in the office today! Thank you!

@alexjamesbilodeau 4 ай бұрын

Why would you ever force yourself to not laugh friend? 😊🙌

@s.tunafish 4 ай бұрын

@@alexjamesbilodeau I would have loved to but it's a bit weird when you're in the office isn't it.

@imac2612 4 ай бұрын

lol I agree with Adam, the Vision Pro eye pass through is super weird, because now I’m in public talking to a cyborg

@scupking 4 ай бұрын

There is no need for that front screen. You can't see peoples eyes when they have sunglasses on. No need when having an VR headset on. It would probably reduce the weight without that front glass and screen. It would also save battery life.

@lilmichael212 4 ай бұрын

I mean welcome to technology progressing? Idk what to tell you bro 😂

@MylesKillis 4 ай бұрын

@@scupkingyeah but with glasses you always know they can see you. With this that’s how you know they can see you.

@danieldaniels7571 3 ай бұрын

@@MylesKillisno you don’t. They could have their eyes closed or actually be blind.

@enisity 4 ай бұрын

I wish you could run MacOS on the Vision Pro.

@jorgeluis1361 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the Kudos. the store was pretty crazy today. I loved it.

@MPKVR 4 ай бұрын

David yawning at 25:35... I felt that. Happy Friday everyone

@johnlocke8389 4 ай бұрын

Marques is a good model for this thing. It actually looks really cool, modern, futuristic, stylish, premium product. It conjures up visions (in my mind) of Prometheus (movie). Wild!

@midnight_yota 4 ай бұрын

“Real eyes realize real eyes” 🤣🤣🤣

@Guapodcast 4 ай бұрын

It's "real eyes realize real lies"

@Interspirituality 4 ай бұрын

But how can mirrors be real if eyes arent real ?? ?

@jegorius 4 ай бұрын

On Quest 3 you can stream 6-7 screens in up to 4K resolution (4 virtual screens plus your physical screens) using Immersed. Works on PC and Mac.

@short_bar 4 ай бұрын

haha, I love the chaos that the apple vision pro brings to the trivia!

@Dr.ShermanEj 4 ай бұрын

The month of vision pro. More vids to come

@ZoomZoomBippityBop 4 ай бұрын

The zoom on David’s yawn, lmao

@SahilGulati 4 ай бұрын

I started listening to this episode at work in the background and then paused it for meetings. At one point I literally thought, oh Marques's head must be hurting real bad. He was in headset somehow messed up with my reality lol.

@Initialgs 4 ай бұрын

The Task following you around app, really just needs to be a tie-in with Namco… Great episode as ever chaps.

@milkmanchannel1 4 ай бұрын

Seeing Marques's face during the ad breaks shocked me at first

@mananahuja4656 4 ай бұрын

can yall plz bring a review at studio channel of vision pro tried by everyone at the studio ?? plz plz?

@JasonEllins 4 ай бұрын

This was a really funny episode, laughed out loud multiple times lmao

@Artytanium 4 ай бұрын

That band mark on Marques' face at the end was insane

@InsertFX 4 ай бұрын

How Apple missed to add the night vision????? imagine using this and been able to see at night!!!!! omg how they missssssed thisssssss

@kinyalbets1765 4 ай бұрын

Andrew now has a Mac. Joined the dark side apparently.

@pow7941 4 ай бұрын

Actually wearing this for skiing would be so sick lol

@symphoniez 4 ай бұрын

The podcast is amazing. All 3 firing on all cylinders. Incredible.

@ilanmatmon8252 4 ай бұрын

Andrew with a macbook?

@DaveNagy1 4 ай бұрын

I feel so sorry for Marques when he realizes that head mounted displays often don't work on airplanes, nor in any moving vehicles. (The headtracking goes crazy.) I imagine there could be an "airplane mode" that disables head tracking, but that too would suck, just in a different way. Actually, the camera-based, inside-out-tracking should still function, so only the accelerometers would need to be disabled. That could work. Try it in a car, Marques!

@user-et5wp5zd1r 4 ай бұрын

It has vehicle mode..

@GirlGeekLovesStampin 4 ай бұрын

On the lack of ability to 'multi-task', I just wanted to say that IMO we do WAY too much multitasking in this decade - so much so we don't know how to focus anymore. So this may help people feel a bit more grounded as they are focused rather than distracted. Just thinking about the psychology of what multi-tasking means to our cognitive load 🧠. Thank you so much for discussions like this - I love all of you!

@Bernardcrosiar 2 ай бұрын

This was honestly amazing

@singyestudio608 4 ай бұрын

Hahah. Here, Marques is like a man put on exhibition. Loved the way he[Marques] stayed silent just shaking his head when Andrew and David were discussing whether they can see his[Marques] eyes or not lol

@jmunt 4 ай бұрын

One of the best episodes to date, so funny

@marcustmusic 4 ай бұрын

Just got the Meta Quest 3 today and I'm pumped about finally getting into VR/Mixed Reality!

@seshagiribhamidi9 4 ай бұрын

Someone should develop the Jarvis Ironman Interface in the form of an app for VisionOS. That would be sick!!! Love the content produced through the podcast guys!

@decemberveryown1983 4 ай бұрын

I’m excited for version 2 being more price friendly

@LeagueofJay137 4 ай бұрын

Marques the whole episode 😂 Especially during trivia

@Golddragon214 4 ай бұрын

Ellis was killing me this episode. Way to go Ellis!

@Myvlogskumar 4 ай бұрын

Screen on from would be game changer in Airpod, loved it 🥰

@AA-ct9tk 4 ай бұрын

Imagining applying that tech to a motorcycle helmet with rear facing g cameras 😮 able to see navigation playlists how coool

@MarvelQueen616 4 ай бұрын

Loved this ep!!

@youtubest5165 4 ай бұрын

I’m gonna start work out my neck muscles. In 1-2 years I’ll be ready 😂

@sk_mt_ 4 ай бұрын

"Hey guys, I've got to say, I'm loving the video so far! I had one suggestion though - how about using a camera that fits all the members in one frame? I mean, imagine how cool that would look! Just a thought, keep up the great work!"

@JonasViatte 4 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, Marquez with the VP and those headphones together looks pretty badass.

@jonmarc876 4 ай бұрын

That light seal did real damage to his face lol 😂

@PruneProductions 4 ай бұрын

18:59 - I see what you did there. And I only noticed you illustrated it when Marques’ hands were at the “edge” of the “peripheral” - I love the attention to detail you guys have.

@robe4314 4 ай бұрын

Just make your single monitor big enough that you can have both apps open next to each other. I switched from two monitors on my desk to one ultrawide and it's so much better without the seam separating my two workspaces. I'm kind of shocked nobody has thought about this.