All About CP3s! Which CP3 should you use for your Cummins?

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Horsetorques Diesel

Horsetorques Diesel

2 жыл бұрын

All I know about Cummins CP3 Injection pumps!

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@BadGoat92
@BadGoat92 2 жыл бұрын
The wealth of knowledge you have is pretty wild
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@bdjm8595
@bdjm8595 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of really great info here, thanks Josh!!!
@jimmungai1938
@jimmungai1938 2 жыл бұрын
You’re a really good guy I appreciate the fact you spend time with your family that’s a very important thing good job and how your information is always good thank you this is six in a row Jim From Kennerdell Pennsylvania
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that
@sixfoothobit
@sixfoothobit Жыл бұрын
Subscription activated. What an easy sub! This is the type video we need more of and less click bait
@mikestrucks
@mikestrucks 2 жыл бұрын
Good info Josh 👍🏻
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 2 жыл бұрын
I think a single 14mm would be a better daily driver option than any dual pump setup as keeping things simple always seems the best in the long run.
@baconcreek609
@baconcreek609 2 жыл бұрын
Great info as usual.
@johnnystanley4469
@johnnystanley4469 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing , great information , and differances great product
@johnnystanley4469
@johnnystanley4469 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of your show been folling for a while now I wish you much success, God bless
@user-nf3oq2ge3g
@user-nf3oq2ge3g 10 ай бұрын
Nice clean room with the clear door. That’s legit man
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate it
@Balakay9435
@Balakay9435 2 жыл бұрын
Hell Yeah Brother 🇺🇸🦅
@73cjproject
@73cjproject 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content and information! Thanks again for sharing the knowledge. That definitely helps answer a bunch of questions and give insight of what direction to go! Would you ever run triple 14 mms?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
if you needed more than 3600hp worth of fuel yes!
@b2hibry
@b2hibry 2 жыл бұрын
CP3 have come a long way for sure! You mentioned mixing pump sizes and one thing I've discovered is... DON'T! Unless you can live with an annoying surge. And on the leaking rail pressure sensor, it's a manufacturing tolerance issue. Believe it or not, they are supposed to be a one-time torque item. I didn't know that until I chased my ass for months on a leak.
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
an impact on a crows foot makes up for the tolerance lol! But good to know!
@b2hibry
@b2hibry 2 жыл бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel HAHA!
@slowaf12v
@slowaf12v 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation video josh!
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@4wdiesels
@4wdiesels 2 жыл бұрын
Josh, any advice for quieting down the gear lash noise from an S&S CP3 conversion for a '19? I did the no tune pump and it's noisy as hell. I just pulled it out the other day and phased it to engine TDC and double checked bolt torque values but it's still clattering under light loads and when letting off the throttle. S&S says it ain't causing harm and the truck does run great, it's just annoying and borderline embarrassing. Thanks again for another informative video. 👍
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
clock it 180* out from TDC
@DIGGINGITDEEPER
@DIGGINGITDEEPER Ай бұрын
we are currently installing exergy 12mm pump on a late 5.9 curious as to what fuel line modification is going to be like. great content man thanks for the info.
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Ай бұрын
They definitely have better throttle response
@torysukut9692
@torysukut9692 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think DDP is working on making a 14mm pump? Great content as always brother. Very informative
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
I havent asked in awhile but was told not yet!
@michaeltrue1143
@michaeltrue1143 2 жыл бұрын
I run the Industrial Injection 12 mm in my truck no complaints here..
@rtz549
@rtz549 Жыл бұрын
Look into drilling that pressure sensor and safety wire it like they do on aircraft.
@ChaosViper67
@ChaosViper67 Жыл бұрын
Would a fleece powerflo be okay for dual stock s&s supersport cp3's with 200% and really conservative tuning? It's what I have with my VP truck that I am going to convert to 6.7CR. Idle sits ~16-16.5, 15 cruise, and no less than 14 no matter how long I stand on it with Quadzilla Adrenaline V2 maxed out tuning. I'm going to go to a 6.7CR with garrett compounds G42 73/91-82/75 1.01 T4 with steed speed T4 turbosmart 45mm high psi gating into G55 106/144-112/106 1.24 v-band inlet. I'm going for the most hp I can as clean as possible. Fully built girlded small cam milled intake shelf with stock replacement shelf. Or do you think I shoukd go with 250-300% injectors and have even shorter duration?
@dtc-wj9yc
@dtc-wj9yc Жыл бұрын
Need some help with my cp3 r70! I mounted a cp3 pump on my vw 2.0 and i cant figure it out how to calibrate the metering valve … Builds too much pressure at idle and the car shuts off. Any ideas on how i can solve this problem?
@wheyez1
@wheyez1 2 жыл бұрын
With the increased flow of the CP3, do you increase the line size from the tank? I have noticed a difference in performance from the airdog, drawing from the top of the tank as the tank level lowers. I can only imagine if I increased output it would be even worse.
@3DProductions
@3DProductions 2 жыл бұрын
airdogs and fass pumps come with 1/2" fuel line
@powers9328
@powers9328 2 жыл бұрын
Your issue is the draw straw. If the factory sump cup is damaged or the straw that happens more commonly known as the 'quarter tank issue'. You can either take it apart and insure its all good or drill a hole in the bottom of the tank and install a sump.
@TheProchargedmopar
@TheProchargedmopar 2 жыл бұрын
👍💪
@bongzonthebeat
@bongzonthebeat 2 жыл бұрын
Question maybe hahaha Thoroughbred diesel CP3 pumps for dodge
@ahmedalial-saeed9471
@ahmedalial-saeed9471 5 ай бұрын
I have RAM 2022 eco diesel with CP4 , it’s recommended to replace it with CP3 or it’s not possible?
@grant_6.7_5th_gen
@grant_6.7_5th_gen 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that info. I'm going to be get a pump soon. Do you have w used 10 or 12 mil you wanna get rid of?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
12mm yes!
@grant_6.7_5th_gen
@grant_6.7_5th_gen 2 жыл бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel awesome I'll hit you up on IG
@timothyfrye5535
@timothyfrye5535 2 жыл бұрын
That dual feed fuel rail what kind is that an where u got that set up. Thank u Tim
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
Fleece
@dillanmarcos
@dillanmarcos 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on a single 12mm vs 2 stock or “sportsman” type pumps sorry if I missed it in the video.
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
Single is always better in my opinion less, moving parts, less failures!
@TAC_Gray_Beard
@TAC_Gray_Beard 2 жыл бұрын
Josh with the 6.7L Cummins Dual Pump Kit Junction Block with Rail Sensor Port do you have to make your own lines from the cp3 and block to the rail?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
only line you have to make is from the block to the 2nd pump.
@TAC_Gray_Beard
@TAC_Gray_Beard 2 жыл бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel For a 850-900 hp tow rig build with compounds would you do a single or dual cp3 setup?
@ChannelZeroOne
@ChannelZeroOne 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know how to rebuild these and where to get the parts.
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
it requires a test stand cheapest one i have seen is 15k new.
@grant_6.7_5th_gen
@grant_6.7_5th_gen 5 ай бұрын
Josh, Do you still have a 12mil cp3 you’re looking to get rid of? Where can I DM you?
@BentonL
@BentonL 2 жыл бұрын
I called DDP about remanufacturing my pumps and what options I have. I was told they dont make pumps. They have an outside vender with their branding. Since many "new" pumps have cores, I was hoping they could resize my pumps. I have been googling this topic in many ways, but I am coming back dry. Please shed some light on this topic and shops who resize or reman pumps.
@curtisd8206
@curtisd8206 2 жыл бұрын
Buy whatever size pumps you are after from your preferred company and use you old ones as cores. Just way way simpler
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
just buy new, its not worth it.
@Barrage_S197
@Barrage_S197 2 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend running for say 1000whp? 12mm vs 2 10mm or stock and 10mm if it could support that power
@3DProductions
@3DProductions 2 жыл бұрын
get a 12mm use stock for core charge or sell it
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
12mm
@nsacco208
@nsacco208 2 жыл бұрын
06 g56 truck, idle is great while warming up, after warm up it will sometimes go up and down as does rail pressure. Do you think it's the pressure thing on the cp3? Stock truck
@nsacco208
@nsacco208 2 жыл бұрын
Almost what you'd call a slight surge
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
is battery voltage changing?
@nsacco208
@nsacco208 2 жыл бұрын
No, battery voltage is constant. Just rpms and rail pressure
@rtz549
@rtz549 Жыл бұрын
Can greater then 14 be built?
@damonsmith8411
@damonsmith8411 Жыл бұрын
07 5.9 hard start after warm. Like 30 seconds crank plus. LOWWWW FRP while cranking. Motor cold fires right up. Pour water on hot cp3 it’ll fire right up. Brand new 30% injectors and tubes brand new fca brand new lift pump in tank brand new fuel pressure sensor. Any ideas? Hard start while warm or “hot” but fires up cold all day. Runs like a champ when it’s on also.
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
First thing I’d check is lift pump pressure, then connecting tube torque, then I’d check the relief valve
@damonsmith8411
@damonsmith8411 Жыл бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel I just had the lift pump installed professionally so I would “assume” it’s correct. I just ordered a brand new relief valve today and will put that in tonight. I have all tubes torqued at 37 ftlbs. I’ll Venmo you 100 if you help me solve this problem
@rddiesel1
@rddiesel1 7 ай бұрын
Is a 12mm the move for a 4th gen with s467.7/83/1.0? Also what injector setup would be optimal for a nice street setup 100%?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 7 ай бұрын
12mm and 100% overs is perfect
@rddiesel1
@rddiesel1 7 ай бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel Thanks man!
@rddiesel1
@rddiesel1 7 ай бұрын
I’ve been out the game for a while. Would I be good with online tuning files, or would I need to find someone in person. I’m still on my CTT files 😅
@cole1407
@cole1407 2 жыл бұрын
Well crap I have the PPE kit, hopefully I can buy a kit to get a true dual feed setup
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
its not a bad kit just wish it did the dual feed!
@JulianJohanson
@JulianJohanson Жыл бұрын
How are the oem recall kits?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
They seem fine no issues yet!
@lilredsled
@lilredsled 2 жыл бұрын
What tuning software do you use?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
EFI live
@Matt-zx1xj
@Matt-zx1xj 2 жыл бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel How about 2004.5, HP? Have Smarty S06 POD, but I need some custom tuning bad, my compounds really don't like any of the Smarty REVO tunes.
@rollingstonesconstruction8752
@rollingstonesconstruction8752 2 жыл бұрын
Where's your shop located?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
Abingdon VA
@dwightparr4194
@dwightparr4194 2 жыл бұрын
Josh did you quit power driven diesel ?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I did 7 months ago
@dwightparr4194
@dwightparr4194 2 жыл бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel Jesus I’m way behind on the news 😂 some day I’ll have to catch up I got rid of my 02 and bought a 08 6.7 I have so many questions for you
@brianlau8316
@brianlau8316 2 жыл бұрын
what about the CP3 K pumps ?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
its a unrestricted stock pump that fuels to 6000rpm
@brianlau8316
@brianlau8316 2 жыл бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel awesome to see you all over the comment section.. 👍 If possible I'd like to pick your brain once again about my (455,000 miles ) 03 & transmission work. I spoke to you a few times when you were at power driven diesel. I understand you're a busy guy and I'm willing to pay you for a (phone conversation) few minutes of your time . can I get in touch with you ? , if so , where can I find the business number?👍👍
@soapybawlz9160
@soapybawlz9160 3 ай бұрын
Can you run a 6.7L CP3 on a 5.9L engine?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 3 ай бұрын
Yep, just have to tweak the high pressure rail line going from the cp3 to the rail.
@soapybawlz9160
@soapybawlz9160 2 ай бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel thanks for the reply, what is the benefit of doing this?
@jaythacker5160
@jaythacker5160 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, so this is how you tell if you are a real OG. Who's ran a Floor It pump???? I have
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
didnt run one but i remember them!
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