Tehom gets a super epic intro cutscene with atmospheric music fighting the incarnation of the abyss while Mastema is basically just "DAMN YOU MEDDLING KIDS!"

Ah yes Chaos: simping for yoko Law: simping for tao True neutral: is nahobino simping nahobino bro really went to another multiverse just to meet himself truly a femboy move

Probably the reason theres no new neutral ending is cuz the og had 2 neutral endings vs 1 for other two, so they made 1 new ending for them in re-release, so that all 3 routes had equal amount of endings i guess

It's kind of disappointing you don't get to fight the opposite goddess of the path you're on (Yoko for Law; Tao for Chaos)

Chaos ending is just the "I am not maidenless" ending

Watched this video after beating the True Chaos Ending. It's very interesting that we have two companions, Tao and Yoko, as a way to show different perspectives with how they want to shape the world. Despite their different beliefs, they at least share very common goals that are for the best of humanity: 1. They both want to end suffering in any shape or form, especially any issues that they see may be the cause of them 2. They also wanted to promote any gestures of true freedom and great paradise, especially including to any future worlds that may come after. The only real difference here is that Tao wanted to use the Mandala system to see the goodness to her friends while Yoko straight up destroyed it. No matter the difference, what they wanted to achieve was essentially the same. Both endings go beyond than the concept of Law and Chaos that they are mushed into what is essentially two different Neutral endings. The game doesn't force the flaws of both Law and Chaos into our mouth, nor does it say that the neutral route is the correct ending like in the Canon of Creation. Instead, it brings us to think about what side we feel is the right course of action. In the end, there is no objectively correct action to shape the world.

Not gonna lie, I was hoping for a more cooler neutral ending and a better Lucifer.

"Somehow Mastema controls Tiamat".

So looking back and forth between the two endings this is definitely post nocturne..but the same themes of it still somewhat exist in 5.

Law ending is just the SMT5V gang having a wholesome end-of-highschool moment with eachother as old Tao watches, while the Chaos ending is just Nahobino handholding Yuko 💀

its really weird to me that tao still leaves you here. even yoko stays in your party lmao

I love how in the thumbnail Kei looks scared of seeing a version of him with shining yellow eyes 😂

I understand why they didn't make a new neutral ending, but it'd be really cool if they did in the style of SMT 4 and made it hard to get, or locked it behind beating Satan so no matter what the first play through you must get one of these ones, as they both give a pretty good ending narratively, It just kinda feels off without any neutral ending

For context here are the scenario writers of this game you have the two original writers of original SMT V, Yoh Haduki and Tatsuya Watanabe, there are 3 new ones but younger staff at Atlus, Yuki Ueno he did previously as Game System Planner in Apocalypse, Map Planner in original SMT V and now this next is Haruna Sato a woman graduated from the Department of International Politics and Economics, Faculty of Political Science and Economics, joined at Atlus in 2020 and she did scenario writer and Safehouse Planner in Soul Hackers 2 and lastly is Kazuya Yotsuzuka, Graudated from the Faculty of Letters, Department of Psychology and Sociology, joined at Atlus in 2018 and he did Event Planner in TMS FE Encore and Request & NPC Planner and Demon Talk Planner in Soul Hackers 2.

The ending icons look like a bull horns and a snake's eye

オリジナルよりはマシになったが、それでもあまり良くなっていないように思う 自分が求めるメガテンは4やSJのようなシナリオ重視のメガテンだと気づいた

We're not asking the real questions why are we letting high schoolers decide the fate of the entire universe. They may be deities but they have mindset of effing children

Okay I don't want to step on anybodies toes but...chaos route kinda sucks like boss wise. I don't understand why we don't fight Goko or like an order based incarnation, like Mastema is maybe a good secret boss but really "pre-final boss" not much. He also keeps slapping himself with his light attacks. Meanwhile, Tehom is a legit way more interesting fight and being. It also is just unclear, goes picking the chaos route literally also destroy universes which removed themselves from the mandala system? Or does it literally destroy all? Which kinda ignores the idea of being stuck in a loop and that gameplay wise you can loop anyway. But I mean just super attacks and animation wise...it feels more rewarding to play law route here. Unlike the original law route.

Didn't they say they made three endings for Vengeance?

So there's no third ending like in the original huh? I was expecting that

They didn't even bother with trying to buff lucifer, he ends up being easier than Zeus, the two bosses before him, and Dagda how in the hell do you make a boss so weak this is inexcusable 😮‍💨

No harem neutral route? Sad

What is the exclusive demon in each route 😂 gotta play 6 times for 100% compendium??

isnt the new chaos ending basically achieving what lucifer tried to do in true neutral ending?

Only chaos and law no neutral ending that’s a bold choice.

So bad we don't get Warth Marakumo Tempest.

The post Tiamat chaos fight feels phoned in vs law. glad I got law on my blind play through

I don't get it. Yoko shows up at the throne, claiming to be "guiding" Tiamat. Chaos-aligned Nahobino chooses Yoko,which makes, for whatever reason, Mastema steal control of Tiamat and use it against Nahobino and Yoko? Also, after the Tiamat fight, Tsukuyomi uses his power to "heal" Tao/Yoko, but if he had this power all along, why didn't he chose to heal the Yuzuru, whom he so cherished?

these endings remind if Strange journey redux New Law and New Chaos Endings

I was sorta hoping there'd be an ending where you'd see Demons, Angels, and Humans living with each other peacefully. Especially since you could bond with your demons.

What demons with each ending unlock?

what do all you think is the better ending? Like is truly the right thing to do?

So, no new ending with Nuwa and Yakumo?

In Law I don't understand why they wear different school uniforms with the only common element being those horrible floral designs, Yoko is the only one who has nothing to do with school.. In Chaos it seems like a biblical reference, the tree of knowledge, the serpent (of Lillith), Adam and Eve if the two boys had both been naked while walking from their backs or covered by the light

Is there an ending where we fight all the bosses

Does anyone had a choice when you enter realm of Lucifer? It asks something about mighty enemy or very mighty enemy. I played on hard and game given me this choice, but in this video there is not. Is that because of difficulty or what?

What ? Thats it? No neutral ending?😢

Are you going to try to beat it in Godborn mode next?

I must ask, which is harder. Tehom or Mastema

are you still only able to register the panagias in the compendium and not summon them?

So either go evil and destroy the world, or become nothing more than humanity's pet wish granted with no life, future or freedom of your own. Unless he can just go about his life as a normal human and just passively grant their wishes in the background?

Is there no neutral ending to this?

Neutral when ??

I chose all the top options throughout the game yet MC still took yoko's hand. What did I do wrong???

So Atlus made the new law and chaos endings more appealing so no one said anything about the neutral ending.........

A little disappointing that there is no route to a neutral ending in Vengeance canon.

Pls show tehom lore

Netural...!!!?

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm really glad they decided not to include a new neutral ending. And I like how they have carried out the concepts of "Law" and "Chaos" in this game. I hated the original's neutral endings, felt like pointless genocide. Plus, I also like that, in general, it ends with the fact that the neutral ending has to be the "True" one in the saga, leaving the others as "bad endings" or authentic abominations like in SMTIV.

(Spoilers ahead) I want to thank you for uploading these because it's a lot of hard work. I also have to thank you for solidifying my decision for not spending $60 again on this re-release. I really wanted to like the game however there is a few aspects that outweigh the positives for me. First some positives, I really like how Tao's character was way way better than it was in Vanilla. Atsuta dying was also a nice touch too after I was rooting for him but in classic SMT fashion, he got unlucky. This is one of the few good Law routes too, which is great since this is SMT. Now the negatives: I was really hoping we had more plot points with Sahori considering it's about Vengence but they killed her off anyways Miyazu is still not too relevant except as a plot device then she disappears Dazai's heel turn is worse here because it's more out of nowhere and extreme than in Vanilla Nuwa was killed off for shock, then it was copped out then she died off screen anyways. Speaking of which, too many important moments such as Nuwa's death and Yoko's transformation is off screen, now I would overlook this had this been a route specific thing, but no, Yoko's transformation happens offscreen in the Chaos ending too and there is no neutral ending that shows Nuwa dying. It seemed to me that Law was supposed to be the Canon route but they went "Oh, right, we forgot about Yoko" then added a Chaos route. Somehow Mastema took control of Tiamat? It wasn't even shown how he did it, we just had to trust he always had the power to do that. If so then, why not control them in the first place when they were the Qadishtu? Nothing made sense. It was appealing to fanservice more than plot imo. And this is for both in terms of design and story. The Qadishtu's designs were imo is a bit too gratuitous and Mastema didn't have as much of an impact as he did in Strange Journey. Lilith is one of my fave demons. From SMT I she was the anti-heroine and in SMT II, Kaneko based Hiroko off of Lilith. In this one she was not... well written... and somehow we went to a Mesopotamian God? I don't even know where to start with that. Like yeah, the Qadishtu were Babylonian but the members were Abrahamic. I get Persona awakenings can cross mythos, but this isn't Persona. It feels to me they just added fan favorite demons to please the older SMT fans and tbh, I'm not really happy that I'm being pandered to like this. Aogami comes back. It really killed the impact of his death scene. In my opinion, this is one of the worst Chaos endings I've seen in SMT ever too, how did they mess up Chaos in SMT? I really wanted to like this game since it's a mainline SMT game and they even collabed with one of my fave bands that I loved since childhood. Had they collabed with any other SMT game I would've lost my mind. This hurts to say but, in my opinion, I don't think it's worth it to re-buy the game. I still have my collector's edition of Vanilla on the shelf and I don't think it's a good investment for me to buy the Atlus Remake 2.0 version again. Thank you for these videos. I really appreciate it a lot. Keep up the great work!

What decides the ending?

my Nahobino is a straight male and giga chad

I hope the new endings were worth all that extra money and time lol, otherwise I'm gonna be disappointed lmao (and I guess relieved, since I didn't buy it)

The True Neutral Ending is the canon ending so these endings are pretty pointless anyway (Vengeance route isn’t even supposed to happen as confirmed by beginning dialogue when you choose your paths). V was a unique situation in that it had a lot of ties to Nocturne - True Demon Ending. VI will go in an entirely different direction based on V’s True Neutral Ending.

Awww man... The new endings still suck ass just like the vanilla ones

Only two endings? lame.

Thanks Faz for the uploads! I'm honestly kinda shocked at how poor the writing is. So much time and we get only 2 routes and no unique ending like the True Demon in Nocturne or the True Neutral in 4. Hell even Dagda's reasons in 4A were a refreshing twist on freeing demons, gods and humanity (more pagan belief). It legit feels like every character was cannibalised by Tao and Yoko, everything else sacrificed for fanservice. I'm never buying this but at least the new music slaps