Is the Pro-Life Movement Fake? | Guest: Bradley Pierce

Is the Pro-Life Movement Fake? | Guest: Bradley Pierce | Ep 844

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Today we're joined by Bradley Pierce, president of the Foundation to Abolish Abortion and VP of Heritage Defense, to discuss the abortion abolitionist movement and what it broadly believes. First we explain what some of the differences might be between abolitionists and pro-lifers, one of which is that abolitionists largely believe in criminal charges for a woman who gets an abortion. We discuss what justice for abortions might look like and how to balance impartiality and compassion for those misled by the media and the abortion industry. While it may seem like abortion abolitionists and pro-lifers are on the same side, much abolition legislation has been struck down by the pro-life camp - why is this, and what other criticisms of the pro-life movement exist from the other side? Abolitionists also don't believe in abortion restrictions, such as heartbeat bills, unless they are full bans (and in some cases have other qualifications). We discuss this rejection of incrementalism and ask what the proposals are that replace this method of fighting abortion. Will abolition legislation put women at risk who have had miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies, and why do abolitionists attack pro-lifers online? We cover these questions and more.
Bradley's Twitter:
/ bradleywpierce
Foundation to Abolish Abortion website:
faa.life/
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Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
01:11 What is abortion abolitionism?
11:14 Partiality & compassion to those misled
17:17 Do pro-lifers give into the pro-choice view?
22:22 Who is opposing abolitionist laws?
25:57 What about ectopic pregnancies and miscarriages?
28:43 Death penalty & struggle between feelings and logic
36:15 "Abolitionists are misogynists"
39:33 Incrementalism
52:55 Abolitionists attacking pro-lifers
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Is the Pro-Life Movement Fake? | Guest: Bradley Pierce | Ep 844

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@AbolitionistsRising 11 ай бұрын

Killer episode. Great discussion. Thank you for doing it, Allie!

@Naomi_OB 11 ай бұрын

You guys next!!!

@Collidedatoms 2 ай бұрын

Yeah! I was going to comment about Allie having you guys on at some point and it's late and the last thing they talked about was the hate Abby got. I didn't even know she was on board when she came to our church and even still I was blown away that she is doing missions to abortionists - like the doctors who actually do these procedures. That still blows my mind... But I digress. Yeah, I'd love to see a T. Russel Hunter interview.

@letfreedomring7330 11 ай бұрын

I didn't know this movement existed! He laid out the problems I have with other pro-lifers so well. I guess I'm an abolitionist now.

@richmondpennokee 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! We can use your support

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@NJHProductions512 11 ай бұрын

Well that's good to hear!

@MessageViolation Ай бұрын

Russell from Abolitionist Rising also has great videos on the support for this.

@letfreedomring7330 Ай бұрын

@@MessageViolationI've been watching his videos. I agree with him wholeheartedly.

@reys7510 11 ай бұрын

I am no longer pro-life. I am an abolitionist. Took me long enough but the truth hits hard. When it hits.

@ElizabethBurkey 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! #AbolitionistsRising

@acbagel 11 ай бұрын

Happened to me too... Changed my whole perspective and actually my whole life.

@alaines430 11 ай бұрын

Amen! Same here ❤

@AnnaWestfalia 11 ай бұрын

Praise God!

@Naomi_OB 11 ай бұрын

Praise God #AbolitionistsRising

@bonniesgarden7869 11 ай бұрын

I love how Bradley Pierce explains that abolitionism is not about harming women, but about loving our preborn neighbors as ourselves. It cannot be equal protection if it is not equal justice.

@shawnaweesner3759 11 ай бұрын

Equal Justice means holding Father’s accountable also.

@TrevorEmptage 11 ай бұрын

@@shawnaweesner3759 no Abolitionists would disagree. But no "Pro-Lifer" that I know is shouting that men are the 3rd victim.. There is only one victim, and that is the murdered child.

@susandraluck25 11 ай бұрын

I think the sinful abortion pills have built in consequences for bad health results for the mothers. God is not mocked.

@justintan1198 7 ай бұрын

yes, fathers should not abandon their child or the mother of their child. @@shawnaweesner3759

@ithurtsbecauseitstrue 2 ай бұрын

@@shawnaweesner3759 strawman and besides the point.

@drewtronics7406 11 ай бұрын

I found out I am an abolitionist. Equal protection is the way forward.

@richmondpennokee 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! Providence over pragmatism, we can use your voice!

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@ThereforeGo 11 ай бұрын

Glory to God!!

@jasonfssoe 11 ай бұрын

Very persuasive case from Bradley Pierce. Every pro-life person needs to get behind full equal protection for every preborn child!

@smashleyscott8272 11 ай бұрын

I have a question for you....

@purelightapologetics4930 17 күн бұрын

@@smashleyscott8272What’s the question?

@smashleyscott8272 17 күн бұрын

@purelightapologetics4930 ... What IF the political will for complete nation wide abolition doesn't exist, and it least to war... ?? Would you support war to end abortion in the U.S.??

@purelightapologetics4930 17 күн бұрын

@@smashleyscott8272 Yes. I would die to end abortion.

@smashleyscott8272 17 күн бұрын

@purelightapologetics4930 ... Would you KILL, even potentially kill children??

@JustinVK 11 ай бұрын

if you set aside emotion, and accept the sinfulness of man (and women), abolition is the most consistent position on abortion.

@egads94 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for giving a voice to abolitionism Allie. It’s a beautiful movement that is heavily slandered and maligned. Great to see Bradley platformed in a positive light.

@janesoderstrom6069 11 ай бұрын

I am for applying the 14th amendment to unborn babies! Protect them!

@bonniesgarden7869 11 ай бұрын

@@janesoderstrom6069 The pro-life movement (live action) is doing that too. BUT they still insist on exempting all women from any prosecution, which will just keep abortion legal in all 50 states.

@kerridejongh6124 11 ай бұрын

What an eye opener , this is how we should be fighting when Babies are being murdered . 😢 Thankyou for this very edifying episode.

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

#AbolitionistsRising for more information

@soyouwantthetruthabout 11 ай бұрын

Please bring Bradley back on and/or continue to bring more Abolitionists on! Thank you for this interview and allowing a fair and honest representation of Abolitionism to go forward. We appreciate you, Allie and are praying for you! #AbolitionistsRising #AMBA #Abolitionist

@davidgcavada 11 ай бұрын

Stop incrementalism. We need to fully abolish abortion in each state legislature.

@jenfed1512 3 ай бұрын

I completely agree. But it makes me sad that pro lifers and abolitionists are working toward the same thing but going about it through different avenues and then neither gets anywhere because we're too busy fighting each other

@ithurtsbecauseitstrue 2 ай бұрын

@@jenfed1512 i don't know that they're too busy fighting each other at all - and the biggest gains in the anti-abortion movement(s) have been made recently.

@rescuetweak 11 ай бұрын

I appreciate you “risking“ having Bradley on your show. I’ve known him for many years and he is a very sound, God-fearing man, who’s integrity and Christian character has stood the test of time. i’ve been in this fight since the mid-80s and watched the pro-life movement barter for scraps at the governments table for much too long. There is absolutely and categorically no way around the truth and biblical soundness of Bradleys argument if one claims Christ as Lord.

@clispyleaf 11 ай бұрын

He presents a very consistent case. Glad theres someone like him in the world

@ThereforeGo 11 ай бұрын

There’s a whole movement of us ;) #abolitionistsrising

@jah9253 4 ай бұрын

@@ThereforeGo Apologia studios (Jeff Durbin) and Hayden Rhodea on youtube are also good resources.

@alexhuffvn 11 ай бұрын

First time I have ever heard the difference between abolition and pro-life explained. Very interesting to note how even the most conservative states like Arkansas only make it illegal for the hitman to kill the baby, but not for the mother to kill her own child. That's crazy. Nobody should be allowed to kill an innocent human being. Why should we make an exception for mothers to kill their own children?

@richmondpennokee 11 ай бұрын

Glad you were exposed to abolitionism! We could use your voice and support

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@alexhuffvn 11 ай бұрын

@@stumc910 thanks!

@IJPhiloponus 11 ай бұрын

It is very encouraging to see an honest interview with an Abolitionist and coverage of abolitionism that isn’t riddled with strawmen and various ad hominem misrepresentations and misunderstandings.

@GoodPersonTestWebsite 11 ай бұрын

Bradley is the G.O.A.T. 🔥 Abortion must be abolished and criminalized from fertilization!

@2Equipment 11 ай бұрын

He is a goat placed on his left!!

@Lukebarca 11 ай бұрын

Good discussion. This man needs to be on every podcast. We need to push the envelope on this very important moral issue.

@susandrummond637 11 ай бұрын

What a breathe of fresh air! Thank you Allie for doing an interview on the important topic of Abortion Abolition & Equal Justice legislation. #AbolitionistsRising

@shelbeyrogers6013 11 ай бұрын

Been wanting you to talk on this for years! Thank you for encouraging Christians to stop compromising our conscience and obedience to God. Fear God above man. Love our neighbor.

@crystalhaataja304 11 ай бұрын

Abolish abortion to the glory of God! #abolitionistsrising #EQUALJUSTICE

@lindajohnson2252 11 ай бұрын

WOW....what a wonderful man! Thank God for him and for you to have him speak to us!

@anchoraboveworship8404 11 ай бұрын

I shared the gospel outside of an abortion clinic and 2 of the staff came outside and threw my gospel signs on the ground. She said "we offer the mother what she wants". There was zero accountability. She also said, " we are all saved by grace in the end" as her co-worker stuck her finger down her throat at me. My reply was that we are saved by grace ONLY IF YOU CHOOSE TO REPENT and obey the gospel. ABOLISH ABORTION in the name of Christ! God bless you.

@madelinerobison9094 11 ай бұрын

Proud to be an abolitionist and grateful to see that stance on the rise. Thank you so much for doing this interview. Huge respect for Bradley and others on the front lines in this fight across the country.

@AnnaWestfalia 11 ай бұрын

I'm so here for this! Soooo glad you are talking to Bradley Pierce about this topic!

@marebear09 11 ай бұрын

So glad you had him on. "People are dying!" So act like it - exactly right

@nkbc5819 11 ай бұрын

Bradley is amazing. God will end this Holocaust.

@ksude 11 ай бұрын

Wow, some great points made by Bradley Pierce. Thank you Allie for hosting him. May God's sheep hear his voice and follow and obey his word on how to fight abortion.

@jorgearbelaez6715 11 ай бұрын

Also heard it on Spotify. Eye opening revelations on the Pro life movement and the biblically based Abolition movement. Thank you for a great guest.

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@HappySlaveOfChrist 11 ай бұрын

Say it with me: EQUAL JUSTICE.🔥🙌

@Declared-righteous 11 ай бұрын

Allie…..Thank you for giving Bradley an opportunity to discuss abolition! The law must be a teacher as well as bringing justice.

@abolishabortionflorida 11 ай бұрын

Bradley has a way of explaining complex or controversial issues in a way that makes perfect sense. How can we hope to abolish the crime of preborn homicide if we don't treat it as a crime? Excellent interview, thank you Allie Beth!

@LykaLo 11 ай бұрын

Read the book "When abortion was a crime" to learn more about what we are fighting against and the limitations of anti-abortion laws.

@AnnaWestfalia 11 ай бұрын

I wish I could like this a hundred times!

@lindasteinbrenner8065 11 ай бұрын

I am embarrassed to say I had no idea re abortion abolition. So thank you for this very edifying episode.

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@wpuymac 11 ай бұрын

Humble response Linda.

@MattTravisMedia 11 ай бұрын

Great interview! So many average pro-life Christians are going to hear this and think, "wait...Pro-Life orgs don't agree with this guy?!"

@miketisdale7341 Ай бұрын

Exactly where I was three months ago. I had great conversations with pro-life people this past weekend in a town square who had no idea that “pro-life” organizations are killing bills of abolition in conservative states. One woman’s comment word for word was “What! Why would they do that?“ I gave her some material and pointed her to look up house resolution 464 and also the letter 70+ “pro-life” organizations sent urging to kill bills of abolition at the exact time Louisiana was close to voting on a bill of abolition.

@JenTheAbolitionist 11 ай бұрын

Amen! God doesn’t compromise with sin - why should we? Equal protection and equal justice for our preborn neighbors! Soli Deo Gloria! #nocompromise #abolishabortion #abolitionistsrising

@acbagel 11 ай бұрын

Really informative episode. We definitely need a new way forward when it comes to the abortion battle. I think Bradley is spot on with what he's saying here

@ctreid87 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for giving a voice to the abolitionist position!

@danielfahringer3430 11 ай бұрын

Best episode ever and I have been listening to Relatable for years. Thank you Allie for having Bradley Pierce on the show.

@dillonpeters2729 11 ай бұрын

I literately just got done with a meeting for Equal Protection South Carolina!

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@amandabridgesdms1942 11 ай бұрын

I’m so grateful for you Ally. It’s been a rough day sharing truth of God with family. You always desire my hope that I’m doing the next right thing and that’s all I can do ❤

@qwnpngwn672 11 ай бұрын

Good job 👏 that shows how deeply u care

@chrismccormickyy3476 11 ай бұрын

Unapologetic in their quest to stop abortion 🎉🎉

@MatthewSmith-be7mj 11 ай бұрын

Awesome job Bradley 👍 AHA

@coycowan387 11 ай бұрын

Fantastic discussion! Thank you Allie for having an Abolitionists on!

@danielgribble1979 11 ай бұрын

abolish abortion in Jesus name. 🙏😁❤

@anchoraboveworship8404 11 ай бұрын

AMEN!

@jenniferneff1244 11 ай бұрын

Crying. He right. Thank you for representing this case.

@wpuymac 11 ай бұрын

this was such a good episode. already listened on spotify

@melluecke1055 11 ай бұрын

Thankyou Allie for giving Bradley a Platform to speak. He is exceptionally gracious and well mannered.

@BrickbyBrick4U 11 ай бұрын

I wonder if people would tell others, "Hey, I'm going to have my dog's puppies aborted", if the response would be, "Oh no, that's terrible! Please just take them to a shelter to be adopted, don't kill them". We live a society today that feels like they love dogs and cats more than human life.

@rubylove9475 11 ай бұрын

there is a KZfaq video out there where someone actually goes out and petitions for that and people agree they’re against it and then is later ask if they are against abortion for babies.

@aliciabarker9930 11 ай бұрын

Fantastic episode!!! God’s Word trumps all! Praying someday these laws will be enacted 🙏🙏 and congratulations on your 11th little one!

@tracycassel2903 11 ай бұрын

This guy made a great sense. I am convinced! Thanks for having him on.

@notallaboutmeministry3285 11 ай бұрын

Awesome! I met him when I testified at the Texas Capitol for abolish abortion.

@faith2275 11 ай бұрын

After listening to this interview I am sold on this movement. I've thought this for so long, but could never put it together until I heard the term "abortion abolitionist" last year. It stuck and this was the first interview I've listened to fully explaining it. When I shared this on my social media I was shocked at the response from other pro-life advocates. Telling me it was "radical" and misrepresented the prolife movement. God is really drawing the line in this current cultural rot. Are we hot, cold, or lukewarm? Thank you Allie. You're def one of my faves!

@StatenJM 11 ай бұрын

Thankful for this conversation. More awareness needed.

@Jess-wy9yb 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for having him on! Love the abolitionist movement

@ericagoggans7189 11 ай бұрын

I wish I could hit the thumbs up button 100 thousand times for this conversation!

@Psalm13924 11 ай бұрын

Every Abolitionist I've come across tend to be harsh and extremely dogmatic. I'm glad there are men like Bradley Pierce who is not only representing Christ rightly but truly and caring for the unborn and are willing to fight for them.

@HappySlaveOfChrist 11 ай бұрын

You should get to know any abolitionist pastor. There is a lot of misunderstanding and slander out there. Your comment (albeit coming from your limited experience) aids the mass, broad brushing slander of a faithful, Christlike, movement. 💔

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@ThereforeGo 11 ай бұрын

I’m sorry if you may have had a bad experience with an abolitionist. It’s a movement filled with sinners like me. However, sometimes truth sounds harsh, just keep that in mind. Plus this is an issue where real lives are at stake so we are definitely sounding the alarm and we will be loud, passionate and uncompromising.

@happy79000 11 ай бұрын

Incrementalism is not Biblical. Adultery, stealing, lying, etc is not to be repented of incrementally, but immediately. Likewise, the magistrate is to immediately abolish abortion to the glory of God alone. Allie, you should interview Abolitionists Rising next. #AbolitionistsRising #EqualJustice

@greggpurviance7252 11 ай бұрын

There is a difference between personal responsiblity & government. What can be passed legislatively may be incremental and it IS better than nothing. Christians are failing at this point to win an abolitionist position. Have to have that before laws can be passed in our context

@Naomi_OB 11 ай бұрын

Yes!! T. Russell Hunter and James Silberman would be fantastic guests! #AbolitionistsRising #EAN

@tammerahollan 11 ай бұрын

Thank you Allie for bringing this truth into the spotlight. We need the truth and light of our awesome God to bring us first to repentance and then to action. He hears the cry of the innocent blood that has been shed, why can't we hear them? I repent for all my years of apathy.

@lanaleighwilkens206 11 ай бұрын

I've been one of those listeners who has been messaging you and asking for this so THANK YOU. We all need to know the difference.

@RickyKearnsJr 2 ай бұрын

As a former Pro-Lifer and bow abolitionist, I'm happy to see this video and glad that this discussion is becoming more mainstream. I'd say it's equally if not more important to debate Pro-Lifers than it is Pro-Aborts. We have to get our side's own house in order before we can go to war. Plus, it is 10x easier to create abolitionists out of Pro-Lifers than Pro-Aborts. Need to get Hayden Rhodea, or any of the guys at Abolitionists Rising on.

@sdh4557 11 ай бұрын

I’ve started watching some abortion abolitionist on KZfaq recently. No clue there was a difference until I started listening to them. Still not sure I think they should be in competition but I definitely get the abolition piece to this.

@acbagel 11 ай бұрын

Nice! Did you start watching Abolitionists Rising too? They definitely changed my perspective on many things about abortion laws

@buffalolifesavers 11 ай бұрын

Trust me. Abolitionists don't want to be in a competition, but the pro-life movement has left them no choice. They routinely are the largest opposition to abolition bills put in in state legislatures & also routinely lie & misrepresent the abolitionist position. When that happens, they lose any moral high ground they claimed to have had. I was involved in the pro-life movement since the 90s & as much as I hate to say it, it appears its leaders would rather abortion continue than biblical justice be exacted. It has become an industry, and people's livelihoods depend upon the pro-life organizations.

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@ThereforeGo 11 ай бұрын

The prolife movement shouldn’t oppose abolition but unfortunately it does. The leaders of the PLM are highly against abolition, which is why, as a Christian, once I learned there was an anti-abortion movement that actually obeyed God’s word and did not compromise with Child sacrifice, I knew I could never all myself “prolife” again. I’m 100% abolitionist. Have you seen “A Storm Comes Rolling Down the Plain”?

@myriamdiallo4434 11 ай бұрын

I loved this interview! As someone who works in a thoroughly incrementalist, "mainstream" pro-life organization but has many friends on the abolitionist side and is fairly sympathetic towards their views, I found that this conversation did a wonderful job navigating the distinctions between the two sides and asking the right questions. Bradley brought up points that I had not thought about, and exposited his position in a clear and respectful way.

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@AprilAnnette 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for covering this Allie! I've literally been thinking about this lately being involved with a sidewalk ministry.

@alexandraulmer3401 11 ай бұрын

This was very eye-opening. Thank you, Allie and Bradley!

@meganboesch7078 11 ай бұрын

Great episode. Thanks for all the new things to think about!

@JonSpeedTheBookScout 11 ай бұрын

Excellent interview. Thank you for doing this interview.

@meganhornberger9386 11 ай бұрын

Loved this conversation. I’m with him. Mothers who kill their babies, born or unborn, should be criminally charged.

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@minagelina 11 ай бұрын

I actually heard a pro choicer ask a pro lifer how they think it's murder yet they don't want to punish the women. The challenge was that they really didn't think it was murder which is why they refused punishment. While I believe that the pro lifers still believed it was murder, their lack of repercussions for the mother spoke volumes and I had to agree with the pro choicer that their stance was not consistent with how we treat murder. I think they believe that the abortionist is the actual murderer. But now, many women are the only abortionists they see because they take the pills. Also, women who hire hitmen go to jail. The women hire abortionists as the hitmen.

@susanwhite2054 11 ай бұрын

I WISH I COULD LIKE THIS 1000000000000000000000000000000000000 TIMES!!! #AMBA

@valenciae-p7095 4 ай бұрын

Allie, you have some of the most amazing guests on your show and this one is one of your best. Thank you for having the Abolitionist, Bradley Pierce on. I have learned so much from listening and being that I am in the Pro-Life Movement, I now consider myself an Abolitionist thanks to you and your guest. Again, thank you and God Bless.

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Excellent lay down of Abolitionism by @bradleywpierce! Soli Deo Gloria!

@JessicaRheill 11 ай бұрын

Lots of new points for me to consider. He did a great job explaining things! Appreciate the episode ❤

@staceywutzke2105 4 ай бұрын

Great conversation! I was a pro-lifer for years. I recently moved over to Abolitionist because the pro-life movement is against the death penalty.

@Matzah1982 11 ай бұрын

Mother’s rights trumping children’s rights doesn’t stop at birth nowadays. ‘’Toxic mommy culture’’ is rooted in that mindset of mother’s rights trumping children’s rights and contrary to what was said 50 years ago about legalizing abortion on demand about ‘’every child being a wanted child’’ and supposedly child abuse becoming less prevalent in our society the opposite is actually true and the rates of child abuse have only increased over the past 50 years since abortion on demand became legal. Is it just because of abortion? No. It’s a whole cultural change that has caused it which is also the cultural change that led to abortion on demand. It’s the results of post modern moral relativistic nihilistic philosophy being dominant in the mindset of more and more ppl since the late 1960s

@fireemberess 11 ай бұрын

I'd argue abortion is why child abuse has become rampant. the mindset of abortion is the comodification and dehumanization of the child in question. and child abuse is simply a continued comodificarion and dehumaniztion of that child beyond pregnancy. legalizing abortion was our society embracing that mindset.

@Matzah1982 11 ай бұрын

@@fireemberess it goes back even before the liberalization of abortion laws. When the colleges and universities began to teach Darwinian evolution and a higher critical view of the Bible plus Nietzschian Nihilistic philosophy in the late 19 century in America and the teachers started to be trained in those institutions and teach these things to the youth starting out in the early 20th century that’s when the break down of society began with the Modernism. The world wars pretty much destroyed modernism and post modernism replaced it and the boomers being raised in the very materialistic and prosperous post ww2 America on the child centric anti corporal punishment views of Dr. Spock then led to the boomers being the first me generation plus the anything goes sexual ethics of Alfred Kinsey coupled with chemical contraception led to the sexual revolution which all led to increased sexual promiscuity and abortion on demand and kids growing up without their fathers and all the societal ills that causes like the rise of gang and drug culture and the increase in poverty and the toxic mommy culture and the ‘’throw away kid’’ mindset

@Umlaland 4 ай бұрын

@@fireemberesschild abuse existed way before abortion was legal. It’s was a problem then and now.

@kmedeck3696 11 ай бұрын

I learned that i am and have always been an abolitionist apparently! Just so im clear, what do you say to someone who says they dont believe that abortion is murder because its not a human life in the womb?

@juliewyatt7725 11 ай бұрын

They do know it’s human life biologically speaking. If you ask enough questions many will eventually admit the baby is human life, but that we should be able to murder them anyway. We can reveal their arbitrary standards and inconsistencies since they treat born babies differently for no reason, but that should eventually lead to the gospel. Because ultimately they need to repent of being ok with murdering babies.

@miscarriagemomsforlife4913 11 ай бұрын

Would a non-human life know his name within the first 10 days after fertilization? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrR8iNOr35jHgJs.html

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising Tell them “We’ve all been there before. (in the womb as just a few cells.) When “the word became flesh”, Jesus was an embryo.”

@miscarriagemomsforlife4913 11 ай бұрын

Also, Elisabeth referred to Mary as Mother when Mary was only days (maybe at most a couple weeks) pregnant with "Jesus." How could Mary be a Mother if the child inside of her was not a human life? (I offer several Biblical, experiential, and scientific proofs on the humanity - the personhood - of human babies in my book, When Unborn Babies Speak.)

@ThereforeGo 11 ай бұрын

I usually ask those people if they also believe in a flat earth😂. It’s such gross denial of básica biology. I also argue that people once believed Black people were not human either and look how we now view those people. You know the unborn baby is a human, you just want the right to murder another human being so you can have unfettered sex.

@melluecke1055 11 ай бұрын

A PERSON IS A PERSON AT CONCEPTION. A heart can't begin to beat without Soul/Spirit being conceived.

@samanthamoore5168 11 ай бұрын

Really helpful interview! I've been following the abolition movement for a couple months and learning about it in doses, so it was great to have everything laid out so comprehensively. Allie, what popped into my mind when you were asking the question about supporting pragmatic steps (though I think Bradley's answer was very thoughtful) were your own words: "the most loving thing you can do is agree with God." Definitely a challenging thing to think about and wrestle with how we should then live.

@LarryCulp-oe8td 11 ай бұрын

GOD never compromises RIGHTEOUSNESS with wickedness, and commands us to never compromise with sin

@ryleeanfinson2693 11 ай бұрын

Love this ❤

@jelainefondren6605 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for having Bradley Pierce on your show. Abolition needs to overtake the pro-life movement. It is the only biblical way to fight the sin of abortion.

@ReformedFamilyWorship 11 ай бұрын

I’m an abolitionist!

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@kellyanne7225 11 ай бұрын

This is amazing! I hadn’t thought of the difference! I know that the number of coerced/forced abortions are high, and I agree with healing after abortions as many women women come to Christ in that healing. However yes, there should absolutely be consequences for all involved in hiring hitmen to murder their children deliberately. I hate how subjective the laws are on this issue. It’s refreshing to hear this from a Christian attorney who goes by God’s laws, not wishy-washy humanistic laws. ❤❤❤

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@paulajames6149 4 ай бұрын

Bradley is a great representation for this view. I have seen other abolitionist and they aren’t as calm or reasonable. It is a great atmosphere for open dialogue and discussion and persuasion.

@HappyInTheHome405 11 ай бұрын

I will admit that I've been guilty of being overzealous in my drive for supporting abolition. It's difficult becaue I can't understand why my whole family rejects it but they're strong believers. I switched almost immediately from pro-life to abolition, so its a struggle to hear this message rejected by them after multiple conversations and explainations, and biblical backing. I also find it hard to hear the pro-life points glorified over and over from the pulpit in my church. I know I sound snarky sometimes, and I am trying to speak with love AND in truth, but I struggle to not let my fervence turn to anger and, then sin.

@BlackTeaNews 6 ай бұрын

Ask them why they believe if a pregnant woman in the 3rd trimester boldly took an abortion pill in the middle of a police station, that woman should have immunity and that child should face no justice?

@kimpreslar303 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this important episode. I can honestly say I was not aware of the abolitionist movement and this was extremely enlightening. I appreciate Bradley’s uncompromising commitment to protecting the unborn based on Scripture and the US Constitution. His explanations for his view were clearly and well laid out (as would be expected from an attorney) and compelling for true Christians. I’m a fan and am so thankful for his work. Thank you for having him on, Allie.

@user-gg9dp3oh2h 11 ай бұрын

He is right

@HOLINESSTOJESUS 11 ай бұрын

Just started and I love his argument. Definitely should approach saving children by providing the only solution to everything. JESUS!! 🙌🏾 all glory be to God!

@stumc910 11 ай бұрын

Praise God! For more information 👇 #AbolitionistsRising

@DavidMccallister65 11 ай бұрын

Wait... I thought he was gonna say something controversial🤔🤷‍♂️

@JR_Haas 11 ай бұрын

He did. He said he believes it should be illegal for everyone to murder anyone. That is apparently controversial to Pro-Life Lobbyist who have worked against equal protection bills in 16 states. 77 Pro-life orgs wrote an open letter opposing all bills that would subject a mother to a penalty for aborting their baby for any reason at anytime. www.nrlc.org/uploads/communications/051222coalitionlettertostates.pdf This killed the equal protection bill in Louisiana in 2022.

@AnnaWestfalia 11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately what he's proposing is VERY controversial in the Pro-life movement.

@AnnaWestfalia 11 ай бұрын

@@JR_Haas exactly. The left didn't have to lift a finger.

@Collidedatoms 2 ай бұрын

Abby came to our church last year. She's a fantastic classy lady but also she is doing something else that I've never seen ANYBODY ELSE doing: reaching out to abortionists with the gospel. And as an abolitionist myself, her being an abolitionist or not, that is incredible! That is, just... I would put it as "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." Or when Peter, after denying Christ three times before the same people who shouted "Crucify him!", stood up and preached on Joel 2 saying "Repent and be baptized every one of you and you shall receive the gift of the Spirit for the promise is for you and your children and all who are far off - as many as the Lord our God shall call". Or how Paul preached to the prison guards... there are so many examples. The fact that she's doing that and winning their souls for the kingdom, it just reminds me of how big God is, so big that Paul the Apostle entered heaven a fellow saint to the cheers of the Christians he persecuted and murdered. It's unfathomable. He's unfathomable. And I believe she could only do this by the Spirit of God. You will know them by their fruit and the fruits of her ministry are the finest pomegranates in this country.

@hollybooth6946 11 ай бұрын

Abolitionists come off to pro lifers as Calvinists do to arminians. When we hold a stance that is against the majority, we tend to be more zealous and sometimes outright ungodly in our defence. That’s why many people refuse to listen to Calvinists because some of us are “cage stage” and rude and in our defending, we push the other away. There will always be some on all sides that are rude and sinful in the way they defend their view, even when their view itself is biblical, like, in my opinion, the abolitionist movement.

@richmondpennokee 11 ай бұрын

Well said

@minagelina 11 ай бұрын

With regard to what Allie said about women who've repented and God has blessed them with kids, I think harsh laws like this will prevent abortions from happening. If you know that you could face prison or the death penalty, you won't be aborting. So those women wouldn't be aborting in the first place. Places with strict laws and stuff punishments don't see the kind of crime we do.

@flexforchrist11 11 ай бұрын

Part 2 hopefully coming soon with Jeff Durbin and T Russell?!?!

@AnnaWestfalia 11 ай бұрын

Yes!

@ThereforeGo 11 ай бұрын

Yessss!!!

@MidWestCon 4 ай бұрын

Been listening to abolitionists more lately and to me it’s the only logical view. It may take time to get there but change takes time.

@Naomi_OB 11 ай бұрын

Btw - i am so encouraged by the comments here!! May God use Allies. Alllies massive social media reach to turn this tide and bring people into the fight for equal protection and Abolition

@meredithwellmeier5591 11 ай бұрын

A couple of thoughts. I agree with his conclusions, but he is not an especially critical thinker. He begins his position with a foregone conclusion, and grasps pieces of support from scripture that suit him, and he uses some liberal interpretations of scripture to support his point of view. He's not horrible, but he's certainly not the iron-clad voice of reason. Also, there is a "secular" argument that indeed shoots down people who are pro-abortion, and it doesn't need to rely on scripture. Instead, it is simply this: It's always wrong to murder a human (most agree). If we are unsure if someone is technically human, we have to err of the side that they are indeed human because the possibility of human life is at stake, and that's not worth risking in cases where "science" and people are unsure.

@ChrisRoutson 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this interview!

@letsuseourbrains 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for asking all of the questions we would ask and representing all of the naturally opposing arguments to allow him the opportunity to speak on it, especially in regards to the sometimes feral approach of some abolitionists. This was so edifying

@ponyjr54 11 ай бұрын

Excellent discussion. The truth needs to be spoken on the differences between the pro life organizations and abolition of abortion. Thank you for making this information available. Praying for the end of abortion in our land.

@LykaLo 11 ай бұрын

Read "When abortion was a crime" to get more info on the history of abortion before Roe v Wade and all the logistics when it comes to applying pro-life laws. As a pro-life woman myself, I find it crucial to be informed and have a clear idea of what we are dealing with.

@ElizabethBurkey 11 ай бұрын

Are you still pro-life, after watching this interview?

@LykaLo 11 ай бұрын

@@ElizabethBurkey Yes. Very much so.

@buffalolifesavers 11 ай бұрын

Why don't you sum up the book for us?

@LykaLo 11 ай бұрын

@@buffalolifesavers Here are some important points: - most women who had abortions before Roe v Wade were married women, and most of them had born children already - the conviction of abortionists depended on the dying testimonies of women who had abortions. But most of them refused to give the name of their abortionist, even though they were dying. They wanted to protect the abortionists. - most juries refused to convict women who had abortions, even when there was ample evidence. The book is not that long, and doing your research really increases your credibility. Just because we are on the side of truth by being against abortion doesn't exempt us from studying this topic thoroughly.

@ByTheirFruitsNetwork 2 ай бұрын

Just started watching, but I'm glad the abolitionist movement is getting more coverage. Pro life is just 63% (and growing) pro choice when you think about it