Oh I saw mass walkouts alright... for a different movie

Amanda: He wrote the story 20 years ago... My aging Millenial brain: Oh, like 1980's?

"I should not be put on a watchlist; I am a very normal person." Exactly the sort of thing someone who deserves to be on a watchlist would say.

I can't stop my brain from thinking they put earman in this specifically so Amanda could have a good transition to an ad in her review

What you said about pain being a big part of body horror was really interesting, I would also add in consent to that as well. I'm someone who is extremely put off by body horror (to the point that just watching your review of Tusk left me very disturbed for quite a while lol!) but can easily watch documentaries or shows with scenes of graphic surgery. It's all to do with bodily autonomy I think, just the concept and suggestion of someone's body being altered against their will is way more horrific to me than any graphic imagery could be.

Okay so. I’m not interested in Shadow Hunters but the amount that Amanda has talked about this shadow hunters project is making me really excited for this future video.

It would be pretty cool, environmentally speaking, if people could consume and digest plastic. I'd have to hope though, that with the ability to digest the plastic, you'd also gain the ability to enjoy the taste.

it seemed like there was also something to say about sexism in the artistic/creative world. saul is seen as the “naturally born genius” who receives all the attention as an artist while realistically caprice is the one who has spent the time amassing the technical skill and knowledge to perform all of these precise tasks for their art practice

Saw this in theatres and the most uncomfortable moment for me wasn’t even a visual, it was in the sound. There’s a scene where a guy is like slicing into a woman’s foot and you hear him scraping the bone and it literally made me physically respond.

The ear man segue into the RayCon sponsorship is a thing of beauty. Well done.

I know he seemed proud of not rewriting anything from twenty years ago, but seriously dude, this is why rewrites exist.

I feel like you hear "This should've been a series" a lot with movies these days, but I can't help but wonder if that would've worked better for this one, especially with all the ideas it was trying to juggle. Maybe each episode could focus on a different set of characters or problems in the worlds with Saul to tie them all together. It just sounds like it needed more time.

No one: Amanda: KRISTEN STEWART

Speaking of the original movie with the same title, early Cronenberg, with his experimental student movies and Canadian TV shorts, is seriously underrated and underexplored. Those ones really put his later work into a different perspective.

I keep expecting Cronenberg to do something like The Thing, you know? 100% grotesque nightmare. In general, his horror movies can be resumed in "Cool scenes you watch on KZfaq"...followed by stiff exposition.

From you talking about it, it almost seems like it would be better as a limited series. Something like 5 episodes, allowing each aspect to be fleshed out more

there's a Mykle Hansen book called "Rampaging F**kers of everything on this crazy sh*tting planet of the vomit atmosphere" and one story involved a dystopian future where people live in a trash world, evolving to eat plastic and everything else, while the rich live in giant floating baby ships that poop garbage down on the poor for them to eat and scavage. This movie could be like a prequel!

Damn, it sounds like this would have worked beautifully as a book. I'm kind of disappointed now. Thanks for the review tho!!

SPOILERS: While watching, my biggest issue was I didn’t have enough context. I understand that some things are better implied,but the universe felt like more assumptions needed to be made and ultimately clouded the “message” if there was one. What time is it? Society collapsed? It’s never suggested that there is famine or climate catastrophe it just felt like a more futuristic industrialized city, but what does the rest of the world look like? Where even are we (there’s so many accents)? Also I felt there was a continuity problem of healing? Because Caprese healed quickly from when they were cut into in the chamber thing, but throughout the story Saul had a huge scar on his abdomen. Also if human beings still have regular function like Whippet said, which made losing pain a concern, “what about infections? You wouldn’t know” it tells me that humans still have basic bodily needs and functions they just can’t feel pain anymore. So wouldn’t Caprese licking Sauls insides literally cause infection????? These places they perform surgery are not that sanitary either lol. Also how does loss of pain turn into changes in aesthetic (people don’t like scars because they aren’t aesthetically pleasing not necessarily because they are painful, which leads me to that continuity problem of healing- do people heal quickly and if so why doesn’t Saul? And if people still get scars when did they become aesthetically loved?) and how did slicing become a substitute for sex? Like regardless if it feels “good” or like anything at all- the woman cutting into her ankle still wouldn’t be able to walk the next day- because as it’s suggest people still have functions? Why would you even wish to do it regardless of if you can feel pain. Also if the surgery to change your organs is so often done that there are CULTURALLY specific versions of it, it seems it shouldn’t be as in the dark or at the very least someone like Saul should know about it. Further, some of the scenes felt like gratuitous I was quite uncomfortable with the young boy being fully nude in front of that audience especially when it’s been established that cutting into people is now a form of sexual act? Maybe I’m thinking too much but it just didn’t feel right even for it’s political message. Finally, what is the message? I understand the plot, i understand I hope a criticism of the art scene (they mutilated a young boys corpse for performance), I understand the concept of eating industrial waste (which with a climate catastrophe actually makes sense but that’s neither here nor there), but because there’s so many plots happening I’m not sure what Cronenberg wished to achieve. He’s not suggesting that hey if you don’t shape up you gonna have to eat plastics because he doesn’t suggest human beings are in the wrong, we don’t even know what humans do besides cut each other up lol.

Her mom's kitchen couldn't be more "Mom's Kitchen' had she hired a set director to do a mom's kitchen.

“i should not be put on a *watchlist* - i am a very *normal person* 😳” …..🤔

This world sounds like it's eventually going to birth a race of Cenobites. They have such sights to show us.

Despite the scrip being written 20yrs ago, it REALLY sounds like an examination of the modern fame culture we have- kids today (and many adults) chase fame and glory by essentially baring themselves to the world. So many KZfaqrs, tiktokers, and other social media stars make their money by trading privacy for fame. And this trend seems to be quickening! It’s almost scary to think that so many of the dystopian realities people thought of in the 20th century are becoming OUR reality.

I'm all about intensity with horror types but am disappointed after all the reviews of this falling flat. With these spoilers though, I'm intrigued by the concept of such a future being parallel to what's already happening, as you said.

I also thought the next step in evolution involving eating the plastic in the world could've had an interesting environmental message, because when I first heard about this element my mind immediately went to how people could clean up the planet just by eating? Or go into a wildly different direction where humans create MORE plastic and further plunge the world into darkness.

I think this is a case of when the art becomes food for the meaning. Seems like this movie is more recorded performance art than it is a real film, it just repurposes the definition of film as its composition. That level of cerebral is like going to eat at Noma. It’s cool and Michelin and far out, but besides making you rethink food, you’re still probably hungry after finishing the meal.

It's funny you say horror is easier to watch when the actors aren't reacting to it, because when I see a real someone with...say like a flap of epidermis they can't feel any more, playing with it, my body and mind instantly become repulsed. Like I can see it isn't bothering them, but I know it would bother me and I'm grossed out and disgusted in a way that is more about pain association/empathy than it is about like one's repulsion for puke or poop. I need them to stop and cover it with a bandaid. And in my case, if I can, I'd be cutting off the dead skin flap.

I find myself agreeing with a lot of your thoughts. For a movie that info dumps so much, it’s a shame we somehow gotta make so many assumptions about the universe. I dig the general idea and a lot of the elements that make up the movie -and I’m always down for some original sci-fi- but I wish the story didn’t feel so messy and all over the place. Character motives are unclear and the lore is lacking, which make for a very confusing movie overall. I’m planning on going to see it a 2nd time though, to hopefully get a clearer understanding of the plot and the universe. Although to be frank, I’m a bit disappointed by the end result (I certainly don’t hate it but it didn’t meet my expectations - but that’s on me I guess).

“I’m a very *normal* person!” says said person after admitting to intentionally wearing as much obnoxious tiger related clothing as possible😊

I would love a follow up this video with one about the original Crimes of the Future. It would be interesting to see your reaction to the original take on this concept.

I saw a review of this film with a phrase in the title of the review of, “SEXY INTESTINES .” I was like, “I'm in, let me know when it hita VOD.”

I mean it's a David Cronenberg movie, what the hell were people even expecting??

i have such mixed feelings about the themes in this. i can't describe what's causing the discomfort and nausea though. I have genetic diseases. the idea that somehow they're meant to be helping me to a next stage (just putting myself in the shoes of the characters here, i don't actually believe that) is nice. y'know, maybe there's nothing wrong with me and its the world around me that's killing me by not letting me progress. but then i think about the eugenics aspect of it, of what the two women are doing by killing people. thats where i start to get overwhelmed and throw my hands up. i'm taking a very different approach to what the movie's saying than most people, i assume. something just really unsettles me.

So it's just cancer, but with an actual direction. I also don't see how losing sense of pain would make sex any less desirable. I try to feel pain as little as possible, and it's done me just fine.

I swear, Cannes needs to grow tf up and stop overreacting or making outrageous hyperboles.

Not comforters fleshed out you say? Anyways is anyone else getting Repo! The Genetic Opera flashbacks? Not saying this movie is as grungey as that, but I see the parallels both in the organ aspect and the world they are in, but also in the too dense story/dramas playing out as well as it being kinda disatisfying because it didn't feel like it fully fleshed out everything it could have to make it a really rich story. Definitely sounds like miniseries material.

That’s actually a pretty sick shirt, being honest

Filmmakers brag about not needing film school, then show a blatant lack of understanding of how a story works

Crimes of the Future sounds like a potential miniseries as opposed to a movie. It might space out some of the exposition dumps and get more stuff about the world.

Please for the love of twilight do a video for the movie MEN, I need your input on the shenanigans I'd witnessed. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!

This has always been the issue with Chronenberg, he’s so fixated on metaphor, subtext and representation that he forgets that it still needs to be anchored in some way to a real story.

"So many of our issues have continued and compounded over time." I'm sad now. Also curious?

The trailers really sold the body horror, but this felt more like a dark sci-fi story to me, like an episode of Black Mirror.

That was a wonderfully nuanced review! I saw it last weekend after months of being really jazzed to see it and ultimately loved it because it gave me what I wanted. Though you're dead on about how it leaves you wanting more after all that exposition. When the credits hit I was briefly unsure if I was happy with it, but it's not as if I didn't love what it had. And dang it, it needed more Timlin. Thanks for sharing this! Also I'm envious of your tiger shirt lol

Amanda I really just got interested in this movie yesterday when I saw Kristen Stewart trending on Twitter for a 6 second clip of her talking. Although I did read an article about the premiere a couple days ago saying people walked out because they were grossed out. So it peeked my interest, just watched a trailer last night and like 2 reviews but I was waiting for you because I just knew you were gonna talk about this because I know you love Kristen Stewart too lol.

OUCH!!!! I remember that one Simpsons episode where the show was so bad everybody fled out of the theater including the orchestra.

Lol I love that you would have been banned for freaking out over Kristen Stewart and I’m here freaking out over Viggo haha

I find written body horror/gore to be easier to digest, without experiencing much ick. So I kinda would have prefered this as a book... Without the societal commentary, it seems that most of what the film focuses on, is the fascination with body modification, even if in this, its due to natural evolution, and humanity being too much of a control freak, but only in the dumbest and most greedy way available, instead of by personal preference. Seems like most of the less obvious alterations are happening at the brain and nervous system level though, like only having disconfort or pain after food and extra organ growth, and losing sensitivity to everything else, to the likely point of population decline, until it something changes the status quo. All I gotta say is that Kirsten used all her acting skills and then some, for this role, and I'm not at all not sure if this unpolished script deserved it.

can't believe that from one 0.5 second clip, i picked up that caprice is the girl from 'blue is the warmest colour' but missed that that's VIGGO MORTENSEN until most of the way through the video??

"Pullin' the seam out of the squeem..." Dead. haha

there is no awkward tiger shirt, off topic, thanks for mentioning 9 Days, it was great and I'm an athiest. It was so lovely

this feels like a different version of Repo: The Genetic Opera and i cant unsee it.

Maybe it was because of the mindset I had when I saw the film, but to me, that movie had strong deadpan comedy vibes. Maybe it's because of Viggo Mortensen and Lea Seydoux's very serene and calm performances (not dull, calm) when put against the weirdness of the story, but I chuckled many times watching that film. 😅 Maybe I'm just weird.

"Tummy fellatio"; "surgery is the new sex"...every day I think I've heard all I could have, I'm proven wrong by KZfaq/social media. That term alone is gonna force me to watch this movie lmao. Bless your fucking heart. ❤️

ok but that's an objectively dope shirt

Amanda has blessed us with another video. Must see now.

I was pretty excited to watch, but ended up walking out before the end. Not because of any disturbed scenes or gore, but because I was so incredibly bored and just did not care to continue.

Awesome video!!! You explained you're opinions and the plot clearly and in a very entertaining way :)

Hey Amanda, ever thought of making a Discord server to better connect with your fans? I would join that is a second!

Kristen Stewart would make a great grown up Ellie in TLOU

You nailed it! I wanted to love this movie so much but it ended up falling a little flat to me. Really cool concepts and visuals but they didn't feel complete. I was also expecting more gore or discomfort from Cronenberg, but gore doesn't make a movie good so I was okay without it as well. The movie had so much potential I think. I honestly hope they make another film within the same universe to expound on these ideas.

Why couldn't we have just gotten a sequel to videodrome after all these years for a double feature with Top Gun 2?

For me, I felt that the film had a good plot and original concepts. I was left wanting more, and I loved how it tickled my imagination to think about the implications of that world given the few sides thay we were shown. And I did enjoy the nuance of a couple revelations. Also, the ability to consume the forbidden plastic bar isn't the worse body mod out there..it looks EXTREMELY biteable.

Imagine all the plastic waste we would save by consuming it all. Oh damn. It would be a miracle if we could start eating all the plastic trash we throw away every day.

Great vid! I think films like Crimes are just emphasizing how much sex and kink aren't really controversial to people anymore. There's swipe apps. Some people openly discuss Pokemon kink. Somewhere,there's an Amish wife going,"Let's pretend that I'm your harlot girl".

This movie sounds like a book that I would like to read. It sounds like too much for a movie.

You have never done a more seamless add transition. Actually I have never heard a better one than this. kudos

Excellent call back to everyone's favorite body-horror rom-com with Sebastian Stan with that background. Also definitely looking forward to a Canadian deconstruction of one of Canada's pre-eminent artists.

I too feel like I'm eating and trying to digest plastic whenever I eat frozen pizza.

i really dig that you review a lot of indie and off beat movies, most of us have never heard of so you then bring these movies to our attention.

“I should NOT be put on a watchlist!” … “I’d be gunning for a ticket anyway…”

I remember when I had my parents buy tickets for me and a friend to watch SAW (or maybe something similar, I remember they played the Animatrix right before it) when we were teens (I was 18 but he was still 17 so he wasn't allowed in). I was legit angry at how lame it was, compared to how it was advertised. Seen many similar examples throughout the years, like the "Serbian Film" for example. I guess this is going to be one of those.

OK, weird take on this...but I think it would be cool to see a script written that combines this and soylent green. Two sects of society arguing over chemiphages vs. biophages and deciding which is actually the natural progression of society.

Was gonna do my own review but nothing can beat this! What drives me crazy is the end. Those plastic eaters had a specialized surgery that hereditarily passed onto the kid. So how would Tenser be a plastic eater?

Haha "Vessels of Exposition" @ 5:43 should be the name of an indie band 😂

Futuristic crimes? You can find those in the sci-fi detective (underground resistance) books about Timothy Truckle. East German author Gert Prokop wrote two books with short stories about how Timothy Truckle solves crimes in a highly socially stratified surveillance state of the future. The first book is titled "Who steals lower legs anyway?" and the second "The sperm bank robbery". Sadly, it doesn't seem that he has ever been translate into English, which is a shame. Particularly the Timothy Truckle stories are a great read.

Oh nice I'm early! Thanks for always putting out great content ! Also rad shirt my dude.

Probably says more about me and my personal style, but I think her shirt is awesome! Not obnoxious at all.

It would be really interesting to think about the science of how the body breaks down that plastic it's so different in makeup to what we eat now. But also the taste and texture. I mean our mouths would look different because our teeth would have to be different no? I guess I'm thinking more of the kid who ate the garbage can rather than the "candy" bars. Because getting your mouth round the edge of a garbage can sounds difficult and unappealing but I guess if you're hungry enough 🤷‍♀️

Your shirt is trying a bit too hard to blend into the wallpaper haha ! Nice head's up though about the "lack of gore", as I expected a lot from the trailer.

Where did you get the jacket, I want one like it!!

what does the pie on that wallpaper taste like, have you tried it?

Listen, if we all just have to eat the garbage we create, then I'll be the first one to say bottoms up. Give me all of those adhd stim toys. The forbidden gummies.

Thanks for the clarification. I had trouble understanding what they were saying, so much mumbling. Loved the film otherwise. Totally misunderstood the ending, I though the organ registry lady put the Tensor organs into the boy. Because it wouldn’t make sense that the dads surgery would effect the boys genetics.

sometimes the scripts you tell are so f*cked up that in the end i just go "nah my english must be bad, i probably didn't get it" and then i watch the movie and it is, in fact, what i heard.

Thanks for the discount, Amanda!

Saw it last night, my first movie in cinema since _Titane._ I have always dug the quirky clinical stiltedness of Cronenberg's own scripts, and this one delivers. There were I think two other people at my showing. Neither walked out - in fact, they became completely engrossed in conversation during the credits and were still there talking when I left. OTOH when I saw _Crash_ in the cinema (date movie!) there were maybe 30 people or so and at least a third of them walked out.

hey can you do Lua Vermelha i think it like Interview with the vampire but it probaly Colego and i would like you to do option on this

I may be desensitized af, but there's nothing really that disgusting or horrific in this. Weird? Most definitely, but I can't believe people actually walked out of this

Haven't seen it but definitely plan to now because of the whole concept of humans evolving alongside our societal development is definitely a fun idea. This movie seems to have a lot going on which means I'm still so confused about a lot of things you broached but as always a fun video! Thank you

I thought it was so artistic and beautiful and with so much meaning ! There is a message ! I hope more artist can open their minds and make more great horror movies !!! I was high when I watched it sooooo… lol I also never saw the trailer !

This is super add but where's your tiger outfit from is so cute

Only yesterday I watched a video on plastic eating bacteria being developed to consume plastic within days (instead of currently months or years) Which makes the concept of this film even more intriguing, and could actually have some basis in real life science.

new game : take a shot every time Amanda says "zipper window proxy felatio " I say that as if I haven't been 21 for all of three days

i liked it very much but i can’t explain exactly why. i just left the theater feeling different and haven’t felt the same since.

Love all the aspects that you're dissecting here in the autopsy of this movie. And presented in a fun and energetic way. I think it's okay the way the movie is presented. Not every idea of the lore has to be completed and followed through all the way for closure. In the end it still has one core story for closure. And every aspect of philosophy does connect and helped us digest the story as we gained layers and layers of exposition. Lots of philosophy and lore to ponder, to be dissected and studied upon. This movie itself is a performance art; a body of poem that we the audience study as we dissect it. It'll be more sweet and rewarding for us the audience to discuss it like this here; to interpret the meaning ourselves along the way

I’m so grateful I came across this video I left a movie theater super perplexed I didn’t hate the movie but I felt like I had no idea what the hell was going on but I was fascinated by what I was seeing so thank you for the breakdown I need a that

It seemed to me the movie was flipping the idea of beauty being the aesthetics of the body with the function of the body. Inner beauty as opposed to outer in a ham-fisted kind of way. Function over form.

Yes, I love the content but what amazes me are the smooth sponsor segues😉

Given the themes of bodily autonomy and pollution in this movie I was surprised to discover it was written 20 years ago. How times haven't changed.