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"Carington, that guy that just got back from jail on the psych ward is currently moving in with them-" The way there's no context 😭-

Danny Gonzalez is my favorite online couple as well

I don't think Tara Yummy is generally a BAD person but she does choose herself to hang out with weird people and she does infantlize herself because of her height which is WEIRD considering her audience is mainly minors, Hope this helps!

Thinking you can’t be poor living in LA just shows a massive lack of knowledge on that city as a whole

A 24yo dating an 18yo? Gross. A 24yo dating an 18yo they knew as a CHILD? Foul. Edit: this is not about Tara and Jake!! Watch the entire video please :)

honestly the whole bryan stars johnnie gilbert thing deserves its own video💀

Zach calling Tara a pdf file's dream after he dated a girl he met when she was 14 is crazy 🤢 Also I'm glad I'm not the only one that finds him insufferable. EDIT: y'all I'm not making any assumptions, I'm allowed to think the whole situation is tasteless, grow up.

My thing with Johnnie and his hate is so many people say that Johnnie is whinny and all he does is complain which is kinda crazy to me because Johnnie’s content Is about being open about his mental health and people saying he’s a poser is crazy to me because he was a blue print for being Emo back in the day

the only yt couples that last are either "one has a normal job and rarely appears in videos" or "they kept the relationship secret-ish until it was serious and even then its still private and never the primary force of content" theres for sure something that creates a good couple within understanding the barriers needed between love and work

20:59 this is exactly what I've wanted to express about age gap relationships - some people act as if a switch is flipped when a person hits 18, and that it immediately dissolves all the boundaries built into dating anyone even a day younger. That 25-year-old is still half your age, Leo, and it's STILL CREEPY

I'm 24, and I wouldn't even entertain the idea of having a relationship with an 18 year old.

i met johnnie at warped tour in 2014 and he was genuinely very nice. i actually met him twice, once at the meet and greet and the second time at the end of the day i was walking to the parking lot and saw him walking inside the venue through a fence (it was an outdoor venue idk its hard to explain) me and my friend called out to him but he didnt hear us and we were like :( and then like two minutes later he walked up like "i thought i heard you guys try to say hi but i wasnt sure so i came to say hi just in case" it was very nice of him . i know hundredsss of teenage girls met him on warped tour that summer lol. i havent followed him since then but i rlly hope hes doing well ! also love ur vids, the way you speak is so easy to listen to like i understand every word u say u speak so fluidly like yes im listening! tell me more!

here's my personal take i started watching tara when she went viral i liked her and i don't think she's a horrible person or wtv but the people she surrounds herself with are absolutely HORRIBLE! especially zach... in conclusion the people who you surround/befriend are also a reflection of you and who knows what her persona is irl🤷‍♀️

oh I'm going to eat this up I just know

it’s bad to be in your mid 20s and dating an 18-year-old but personally I feel like what makes it worse it is you knew this kid since they were 14 and then as soon as they turn 18, that’s when you start dating them it just makes it weird

Johnnie not being known by my digital escape is making me feel old😭

my gripe with the "tara yummy theme song" is that it is yummy by ayesha erotica, and tara has put ayesha's lyrics on merch and other things when it doesn't belong to her. i'm guessing most people who hear that song assume it's tara's when its not, and ayesha barely gets recognised or paid for her music despite so much of her discography going viral every few weeks. she doesn't even earn money from it as other people try to reupload and copyright her music constantly. idk id just feel upset if my song was known as someone elses theme song, and they were profiting from it while i was getting nothing for it her other song was a feature in 6arelyhuman's remix of faster n harder and tbh i thought her lyrics were lazy and quite uninspired. part of them were taking from 6arely's existing lyrics, and her flow was verrry similar to ayesha's (particularly in "for the girls") and her verse was only 30 seconds

seeing johnnie in youtuber drama like this is WILD bc he’ll always be lil emo youtuber johnnie to me. i was a ginormous my digital escape fan and was there for that whole thing so seeing all this is like *woah*

Zach calling tara a pdf files dream while making one of his main bits flirting with her is SO WEIRD. Especially with his past relationship being criticized (rightfully so) for the age gap and fact that he knew her as a child... Like, sir, the joke wasn't funny to begin with, but now it's just straight up *alarming*

"The guy who got out of JAIL and PSYCHE WARD" like girl what 😭😭😭

i’d like to point out that jake has mentioned he’s diagnosed with autism. a lot of people on the spectrum have hyper fixations on certain topics or objects and those hyper fixations can change rather frequently which is probably why he seemed to be uninterested in that stuff out of nowhere.

that danny gonzalez anecdote was so funny lmao.

calling the liza koshy era og youtube is WILD

21:04 finally someone said it. Like 18 year olds are still teenagers and there’s barely a maturity difference between a 18 y/o and 17 y/o. The truth is if the age of consent were lower the people in their mid 20s, 30s+ that go after 18 y/os would take advantage of that and go after people even younger. This is true in europe where you have 24 y/o dating 16 y/o for example

This is how fair "criticism" is. Not like that one girl who claims not to care about them but is in a subreddit full of people who dislike Tara, and made multiple videos on them. Hypocrisy at its finest

finally I'm gonna get my fix on this drama from a reputable source. hands off the wheel, listening to your words intently. 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

My ex wife met me when I was 18 and she was 28.. when I finally broke it off she tried to say that I manipulated and abused her like she didn’t lie to me about multiple things that I expressed was important, ignored and disregarded my safety when it came to her comfort or her straight up not thinking about it, and her pressuring me to do certain things and when I didn’t she panicked that I wanted to leave her for a man to the point where a therapist had to tell her multiple times like I did that it was probably my medication and dysphoria. Can’t even recognize her as someone I use to love after the things she said to me. Funnily enough, she inadvertently admitted multiple times that she thought of me as a child while making fun of me “trying to be grown” for wanting to divorce her lmao. I’m 22 years old. I left home at 18 and had to help her pay off her debt, get a drivers license, look for an apartment, get a credit card, and start saving money in an account 😭 I was her damn mother at that point. All this to say. Enjoy your 20s. Don’t date people who could have been your college aged baby sitter, 8/10 times they’re secretly weird af. Also don’t ignore the red flags.

I personally think Tara is popular bc shes basically an emo Mila Kunis.

the murderabilia thing is crazy😭

I don’t really know things until you explain them

I think the only thing I disagree with is the whole "punk/emo aesthetic" Johnnie does label himself as emo in which is fitting for him, his music is in the emo genre and emo is just a subculture abt the music which he is fitting to. However Jake refers to himself as punk and Punk is a political movement, you literally cannot refer yourself as punk if you're not aligned with the subculture bc it IS a political subculture. Not a fashion look

The idea that exes can’t be friends is so interesting to me. Me and my ex boyfriend broke up after a 3 year relationship and it’s been 3 years since and we are still friends 😭 we only broke up cause we didn’t want to same future. Truly for the best cause I just came out as a lesbian a few months ago 💀

Fun fact: Tara already apologized for the tweet she made when she was TWELVE (if I remember correctly she apologized in 2020 but i could be wrong) Plus yall gotta remember it was the early 2000s and she was in middle school, everyone was making diabolical jokes. And she could have picked the term up from the situation she was growing up in. Stop hating on Tara for a tweet she made when she was twelve which is extremely young, grow up. (I don’t mean to hate Amanda, I’m saying this for the people who do flame Tara for this)

IN MY OPINION, Tara getting hated on is for the most part not deserved, the argument of her interrupting Alyssa while she was talking about her struggles with depression was during a drunk episode. they had since talked about it on the podcast and neither held ill will. Tara blew up quickly and has been put in the spotlight, it wasn't an easy thing. Tara also recognizes that she can interrupt and tries not to. And people who harrassed her for things she did as a little kid are the ones who need to grow up. (of course, i do not know her personally but it's just a little grievance of mine 💗)

the fact that she is still friends with people who support isnotreal does it for me

Saying that rape is a joke and dark humor is very insensitive

Dating someone that you knew since they were a child ( and had sibling like relationship with them) is soo wrong and creepy even if you did not gr00med them initially

this whole video seems very unbiased compared to the video i’m imagining you’re responding too. i appreciate these videos a lot as i don’t know much about these people and it’s nice to stay up to date in the influencer world. keep up the good work

14 and 21 when they first met each other??????????? Put that man in JAIL

26:20 as an alternative person, labels can matter. Alternative culture is not looks based, it’s about politics and music. Being anti capitalist, anti discrimination, feminist, so on and so forth. You cant be punk/goth and buy fast fashion. You cant be capitalist and punk- which brings be to my point. Jake has an anarchy tattoo and own a tesla, which is a slap in the face for punks, goths, metalheads and alt people in general. To me, Jake and Johnnie kinda use alternative culture (especially Emo and punk) as a costume. They “look” alt, but they aren’t really alt.

Yeah regardless that Zach guy is 1000000000% a groomer. Idgaf if Indiana doesn’t think she was there’s no reason someone who would call someone their sister and knew them consistently from age 14-18. Usually the younger person thinks they’re pursuing the older person and “instigated” it but the adult should ACT LIKE AN ADULT AND SAY NO. As a victim of CSA her story isn’t taking away from others stories. The people who do that are abusers.

WAIT please do an unnecessarily long recap of 4freakshow im on my knees begging

tbh idk where i stand w tara, not like it matters since she has a huge following. No matter what is said or what hate she still is huge. I think she just isn’t self aware of what she does sometimes yk? Which i get but like the clip of her interrupting alyssa who was talking about her depression just to talk abt her party was kinda ewwww. Along w not standing up for herself and other women on the podcast when zack says messed up stuff. And especially when she told Jake to get a T tattoo for her and he was very serious and upset about it. I think the entire group has their bad sides (like every average human). I just hope Tara fixes the ppl she surrounds herself w because it takes women back due to how much they get sexualized. The podcast even has a “theme song” for her abt where she ended up last night which is like…tf?? This group is just messy and exhausting tbh

he waited until she was 18… that screams grooming

@motleyangell this is how you make a tarayummy critique video

Grooming is such an insidious, complex thing, and if your first relationships are toxic like this, it's hard to know what's normal and what's not. I was groomed and even a decade later, I find myself still making excuses for him and new ways to blame myself for wanting love and attention. I think of it like black mould, you can paint over it and pretend it's all fine but at a certain point it seeps through and you start to realise you've been breathing in all these toxic spores for years. I wouldn't be surprised if, in time, that young woman is able to properly reflect and subtract the blame and shame she feels and place it where it belongs, on the shoulders of the person who was an adult at the time.

I cannot believe that you don’t know who my digital escape are. What went down in that group was absolutely wild.

my cousins said I reminded them of you and that was such a huge compliment for me. you are my comfort youtuber

Omg a few weeks ago i came across this video about Tarayummy but the creator of that video just came across as extremely hateful at times that I couldn't finish watching. Like i had no idea who Tarayummy was prior to that video but i did want to know what the tea was so girl I'm glad i stumbled upon this video.

tara did leave the dropouts podcast. also, the tarayummy mindset sound was something jake and johnnie told her to say as a joke, and people started taking it really seriously.

stop you're so right about the vinnie hacker thing. like, he likes anime and star wars... and? 😭

i usually get bored when im watching a video of a podcast like this, but your videos are so inticing and i really love your approach to all the drama. it is very entertaining, keep doing what you do!!

oh my GOSH THE EXCITEMENT FLOWING THROUGH MY VEINS IVE BEEN LOVING YOU RECAPPING DRAMA pls do more im obsessed with you

I really love your drama recaps 'cause you're one of the only people I've watched who manage to hold people accountable while simultaneously being realistic and not criticize these people for being human

Johnny has always been a known person in the alt community, anyone who has been to warped tour has likely seen it met johnny

Okay so for some context, I remember watching Johnnie around 2016-2017 when he was in MDE. The drama there was crazyy( I recomend going down the rabbit hole). MDE was a collab channel with seven people, 6 of which ware between the ages of 16-19 I think and one grown ass adult Brian Star. He was 26 I think, also can a career interviewing emo bands before MDE. So I dunno how much I remember but pretty much I think most of them ware living together in an apartment, I'm pretty sure all the money was going to Brian and he was maybe acting like their manager or something. They had a blow out fight I think , people started leaving and at the end it was Brian, Johnny and his then gf Alex on a couch explaining everything. At some point Brian locked everyone out of the yt channel and tried rebranding it with a different group of teens , and the og mde tried making a change on their own but it didn't last long( I think it was just growing up and having different goals). Also fun fact Johnnie was being shipped with one of the other boys named kyle( their ship name was kohnnie) so he's been on the queer baiting grind since day onee. Yeah 2016 emo youtube was fucking crackk.

6:04 "i forget what exactly what the group was called but Johnny was in the influencer *scene* " i don't think that pun was intentional but it hit absolutely perfectly lol.

Cheating in a relationship with people that saw each other as sibling where one was barely a teenager is the LEAST harmful thing that could have come from that. Good for her!

I stopped watching them when in Jake's cruise vlog, Tara was tispy or drunk and started doing grabby hands and going "Uppies uppies uppies! Johnnie will you carry me to dinner!" It was too weird for me to keep watching the video. I watched Tara's cruise vlog, and she was much more chill. I think she was playing it up for his vlog, but it's still really weird! Another thing that made me stop watching, is even though I like their videos trying weird stuff, I grew up pretty poor. Target is expensive to me. Them spending on so much food and random things they don't need other for the videos makes me kinda mad when they don't need to! It's wasteful.

Posted 53 seconds ago ??!? We eating GOOD today 😩

I'm sorry but Jake at one point had JEFFREY DAHMERS GLASSES???

i'm really glad tara left the podcast... i think she's finally realizing how weird of a person zach is and is starting to distance herself from him. i think she's a really sweet person but i also think she's very gullible and is too nice to a fault which is why she tries to befriend everyone and give them the benefit of doubt. i think that's her only "bad" quality and it's what drives people to dislike her.

8:14 i think everyone knows exactly who she is talking about 😭

You have GOT to watch Motley Angles video on Tara, it’s unhinged and not in the fun way in the “wait why is this a problem why are you being mean?” Kind of way

tara yummy used to be a fav, but she sincerely hangs out with some of the worst people

I love how she just randomly talked about being constipated at the end of the video

i really loved your video and the way you highlighted their faults as well as their helpness on the internet. In the end we're all humans with both good and bad and the best we can do is be kind to each other :)

danny gonzalez is actually my favorite influencer couple too

finally a video discussing the drama that isn't completely bad faith with horrible takes

Ugh thank you SO MUCH for making this video. I have been wanting to make a video essay about all of this and make a ton of points similar to yours, but I don’t have a KZfaq channel so I know no one would see it so thank you for being unbiased and not hateful about it!!!!!

thank you for doing your research about them properly! I'm a fan of them and people just seem to hate everything they do recently so it's refreshing to see someone with compassion making a video on them :)

it’s insane the sheer amount of age gap relationships start with the “sibling bond” excuse before the younger one turns 18. like yes that excuse is so believable when every single one of these couples uses it …

I need to see you learn about the "my digital escape" lore. It is insane

you’re vids are so insightful and well researched! ILYSM 😍

ur so cool u give the vibes of the type of people i'd like to be friends with irl 😭 i hope ur channel grows

(Not a punk girlie) I noticed that a lot of criticism towards how they dress, mainly Jake, is that it isn’t just an aesthetic as you said. Punk is a political movement and Jake, who says he doesn’t identify with punk, literally has a political punk tattoo and (from what I’ve heard) supports fast fashion, which is very against the ideologies of punk.

tara dances on the line between not being a girls girl and being a pick me

I LOVE “unnecessarily long recap” videos!!💗

i find it incredibly unsettling that he went on to date a girl he knew at 14 years old while he was 21, and then frequently makes pedo jokes. i’m tired of people thinking that “jokes” get a pass…i will not make accusations but simply state my opinion on the information presented and yeah that’s wack as hell and it’s not uncommon for fr pedos to make jokes like that either. prominent recent example: danny masterson. after news of his sentencing broke out, interviews resurfaced where he had frequently made pedo jokes, many directed at mila

The fact they started dating when she turned 18 after he knew her for 3 years of her being a minor….Like he absolutely had disgusting and perverse thoughts about her when she was a child. And the way he acted towards the 13 year old on the podcast is absolutely disgusting as well. People need to stop infantilizing and defending Tara considering this is the type of person she hangs out with. I’m only pointing Tara out here because people already think Zach is gross but go on to defend Tara because they’re a fan of her. Like go look at who you’re defending. Somebody who hangs around groomers and doesn’t care

A lot of people recently dug up Indiana and Zach's old IG posts/comments and I've never been more disgusted in my entire life. And thank you for pointing out that he literally actively saw her at 14 yrs old when he was 20/21, and still decided to publicly date her as soon as she turned 18. That tells me everything I need to know about Zach Justice. Not to mention how he recently asked Joe Gatto which one of his 50 yr old friends would he let a "hypothetically older daughter" date (mind you he does have a daughter but she's currently 9 yrs old).

Perfect vid to fall asleep to! Thank you Amanda

it's so refreshing watching a non-judgemental video! it's like a breath of fresh air :) as someone who's a huge fan of Johnnie, I loved this video!

I’m pretty sure that Jake, Johnny and Tara only do it for satire. Like “lmao we are obnoxious.” And some of the stuff might be real like in some moments when Jake stims (he has autism) that might be just him not acting for the camera, but I’m 90% sure that 70% of it as an act or at least not really how they act in public

I’m sorry, but minimising subcultures into “aesthetics” is so so offensive the alternative scene especially punk has always been about politics, humanities, social cases, non-conformity, anti-consumerism and human rights. sure you can dress anyway you like just because you like it but in Jakes case he has labelled his style as punk but later said that he doesn’t, because actual punk people get mad at it😂

Honestly thank you I’ve needed this

I usally don't comment this type of videos but I wanted you to know that is so refreshing to see perspective like yours. You don't offend anyone, your reasoning is very logical and mature. Last but not least - you're kind-hearted. Good job beautiful soul :)

your voice is so calming and you explain things very well, I'm falling asleep

I love you thanks for being astute and putting so much context and thought into this

I'm a fan, and I agree with all of this. I think because of the recent conversation about them, people jump to hate them without any context.

my favorite days are when amanda posts and unnecessarily long recap

this video is honestly amazing no words can describe how happy i am to have come across this channel

i really enjoyed this vid while working on my exams. the way you explain things was just easy to listen to so thanks! :)

help i js watched ur dsmp drama video and i can't unsee you as tednevision's genderbend it's so perfect haha

They’re just normal people making videos, people put “influencers” on this pedestal where they’re expected to be perfect, almost every problematic thing they’ve done they’ve addressed it. It’s insane how everyone suddenly hates them now. As a fan of all of them I also do have to admit the fandom is RANK they’re either 10 year olds that think they’re funny or 40 year old women that infantalize them 😭 I made the “ you look like the type of guy to have a green mist following you around “ on Jake’s TikTok and the AMOUNT OF PEOPLE OFFENDED saying stuff like “don’t talk about my man my precious Jake like that” is actually insane.

I feel like in general johnnie is mostly overlooked when his lore and backstory is actually the craziest thing, like hello?! The gro*ming started so young for him, I can’t even imagine the mental work he had to do to unlearn so much of those bad habits 🤮😖

omg i was looking for smth like this bc ppl have been OBSESSING over tara yummy and ive never seen her before 😭

i love this needs more attention

the coverage on something i dont give a shit about but is constantly popping up on my feed i needed.