Especially since they dropped the a750 to $200.

I just ordered a a750 for $200, feeling pretty good about it. I’m sure they will only get better and better with drivers until they hit the ceiling of the card’s capabilities. But it also really close to the new 7600 at $70 less

I'm gonna be building 4 or 5 PC's shortly, and I am genuinely considering an intel GPU for each of them. They'll be vaguely entry level PC's capable of some 1080p gaming each having a clear upgrade path for the people I'm building them for so they have that opportunity if they are so minded. Torn between an intel GPU, 6700 XT or maybe the 7600 if the price is right at the time.

@@GahloWake I'm waiting for the price drop to hit Canadian stores to get one myself.

​@azena. I know it's 1080p bit I would still go with the 6700XT for the 12gb vram vs the 8gb with the intel

What happened to Jay?

​@@TheOneWhoSimps he has surgery, which is why Phil is on camera

really? why are you glad dude? cant wait to work for you and do a piss poor job and have a boss that would be glad.

@@kh_trendy ye i got that part, vut i want to know why he's having surgery

@@TheOneWhoSimps None of your business.

Yup can't wait for the A770 16GB to drop to 300 USD now. I got mine for that during a Christmas flash sale. If ARC is priced like this then they will win the favour of PC fence sitters. A380 6GB - 130-150 USD A750 8GB - 200-220 USD A770 8GB - 250-270 USD A770 16GB - 300 USD. Damn, by the end of the year they might shape up to be like a Pascal of sorts, by that point the drivers should be there.

low end dgpus are nice in the desktop space and not really necessary in the laptop space. what an odd market the computers have now

@@phoenixrising4995 Im looking to build a video editing/ 3d model pc would the 770 be good for stuff like that?

@@nightruler666 This summer it should be, more likely august. Blender will fully support OneAPI by then. However if your app for 3d modelling requires cuda then buy Nvidia.

@@phoenixrising4995 Thanks what type of monitor would you recommand?

I don't

@@CS-pl8fc did anyone ask you specifically? Nahh we didn't

Jay didn't have to take that video down. Phil didn't say anything really that wrong. It's just fanboys and bots mostly. Now it wasn't the new mid range king of course by a long stretch with 8GB vram.

His awesome what?

I mean if intel can make a dent in the GPU market the better cause we really need more competition in the GPU and I would like to see another brand also enter the CPU race

I got the A770 for my daughter.... I has been wonderful. I am now waiting for Battleamge.

FUN FACT: after the 4050 fiasco INTEL ARC 750 is now $200...

Yeah but still it has stability issues and trouble launching a bunch of games out of the box - sometimes - on some system - the fault is periodic - which is infuriating AF trust me! Have about 20 system in my service rotation which has A770 and A750 cards and they are BY FAR the largest offenders when it comes to random crashes and failures to launch - and even bluescreening/bricking Windows - both 10 and 11. I don't debate that their raw horsepower is good - however I would NEVER recommend them to anyone who isn't fairly tech savvy - and to me they are more a fun toy/tech demo than an actual competitor... and I think Intel knows this which is probably why they haven't released more cards yet.

​@@Craider79 sounds like my amd experience. But I guess its even worse on intel then.

Lovely price

Yeah but only limited games works on it tho :(

​@@blackcrov840 COZ 8GB IS NOT ENOUGH ANYMORE!!!

@@notrixamoris3318 I am the biggest proponent of 8gb vram being obsolete, but at $200 super budget end, 8gb vram is more than fine. The intel card is a banger deal at that price.

RX 6700 10GB is $279 still similar price as RX 7600 8gb with more performance.

sad part is, when they fixed there drivers, they are going to charge the exact same amount as nvidia for the same performance. they allready did that with the ARC series, just slot them in, where the counterparts from nvidia are priced

Im still using my 5700xt nitro and it performs amazing! i wanted the 6950xt but passing the 6 and 7k series. Maybe they learn and create a good 8k series

I have the 6700xt as well and a great card

Will all the old gen stock floating around I think both AMD and Nvidia *want* us to skip this gen. Or rather, they won't price this gen competitively until last gen is finally "finished". As longer as neither is willing to compete with one another, they have nothing forcing them to price these new products at all competitively. So people either buy overpriced new cards, or clear out the last gen stock, both ways Nvidia and AMD are still making sales. This just all sucks as even after both a crypto boom and pandemic/lockdown are over, we are still left feeling the negative effects. The last 4 years are pretty much a "lost generation(s)"

The RX5700xt released at $350 like 4 years ago. Basically the same perf/$

6800 xt for that price range. Pretty good card imo

@@Scnottaken perf per currency is a pretty useless stat. Many AMD copers rely on it for their purchase decision but there are literally 50-70 buck GPUs on Amazon giving you roughly a 1:1 FPS per buck ratio(low-med settings), this would be insane value however I highly doubt ANYONE would buy those. You should always have a rough performance target and then look for what gets you the closest or might offer a little more for a little extra. Thats why you need reviewers

@@Kiyuja they're almost the same performance or I wouldn't have mentioned it.

Skipping the next generation of any product is a good idea. Unless it has an insane time gap (e.g. game consoles).

i still own 2060, and until now i really dont think anything worth it lol

@@LuminousSpace i think that i'll go for the next one too xD. usually is good to go for an upgrade every 2 Gens, but this one (From BOTH sides) feels like a refresh of last gen

@@LuminousSpace The only card on the market I would replace my 2060 with today, would the A770. In truth though, Battlemage should be out within a year. I am waiting for it.

​@@LuminousSpaceYou could pick up a 6800XT. That's a big upgrade.

Maybe should've kept the 4060 review online with a disclaimer that the video doesn't necessarily reflect J's opinions. Let the guy make his mistakes and learn from em, we all do.

@@maxmustermann194 Yeah but that would have hurt the KZfaq algorithm for their channel, which they obviously want to avoid.

Instead of reposting the original video they should just do a talking head piece about what considerations they make in doing a budget build between Nvidia AMD and Intel

@@maxmustermann194 I aggre with that, but after all it's J's channel

What happened in the video, is it posted on KZfaq? If Jay disagrees with Phil, why not have both opinions available? Phil seems like an intelligent guy from what I've seen.

I mean you still don't want to recommend this for older titles that probably can't get as much attention regarding driver fixes. But it's still impressive.

@User 101 no but I wouldn't recommend anything modern rn because of the prices either

if you buy something that isn't good til 2 years later when the next gen comes out, then is it really that good of a value? do you not value your time?

@Vincent Ellsworth I never said it's actually worth the money to buy one it's just that the value proposition is getting better. I don't recommend buying any of the latest Gen at their current prices. I don't recommend buying last Gen when you consider the prices pre 'demic.

@@Lyvarious got it so it's getting better but nothing is worth buying now...🤣

you can find it online if you wanted

It wasn't yesterday. The video was posted last week.

indeed

Agreed. But is it really enough that too with RT? Like do you hit 60 fps as average fps?

Got a Strix 3060Ti, 1440p Med to high settings, couldn't be happier.

Raytracing in what, minecraft?

If you use RT, it’s not enough lol. But do you man

I think Phil has a well enough sense of humor at least.

@@Lloyd-Franklin post op

@@Lloyd-Franklin Surgery Recovery

@@Lloyd-Franklin He has a Ligma, very sad.

​@@Brabant076so sad. 😊

Yup I scored one during a Christmas flash sale for 300 USD. Love the A770 16GB model, I know that its VRAM isn't handicapped in anyway and its driver updates are really good so far. To think that my local retailer was trying to get rid of these cards to have more space for 4080s to sell, then just to have them return as open box and sell at a loss makes me laugh. Dumb Scalpers and now Nvidia is scalping you with the 4060Ti.

lol

I will say the aesthetic is much nicer than most gamer cards IMO. Though I'm over case windows and to RGB for now.

Yeah lol

​@@KingSteven77It's a joke, obviously. Jay is recovering from sur-... You know, I'll let you figure it out.

I already know he had a surgey, so he is taking a break to recover. What's your point, lmao

@@KingSteven77 Jesus dude...

Get well soon Jay! FYI they didn't shill Ifixit, looking forward to you doubling up next time! Jk

or triple in nvidia's case.

I have a 6750XT which I patiently snagged for a reasonable price last year and I am very happy with it. I don't do RT but I can raster anything quietly at 2560x1600 with max settings and not set my room on fire. Efficient score extra points with me as I have to AC my home in the summer.

$1000 micro centre build off between nick and phil with jay as judge.

Because they are not selling.

Yeah the Nvidia check cleared so he won't be uploading a new review.

4060 in Juli will be around that price point.

He should have said price bracket bc you could get 3060 near 300, and aib cards for 7600 would reach 300ish bc of added fans, OC, etc.

@@daflipbizkit AMD always drop prices a few weeks after launch like their 7900XT which is now $150 below MSRP. The RX7600 price sucks so I am guessing it will fall below $250 in a matter of weeks.

Only the 6500 and 6400 had 4 lanes. 6600 and 7600 both have 8 lanes and it doesn't make a difference whether its pcie 3.0 or 4.0.

I agree we need more vram in these cards. The 6700 XT 12GB is a great deal right now if you can find one. It's matched or slightly ahead of the 4060 TI (8GB) in performance with more vram.

And 4060Ti too 😅

Yeah Buying a used or discounted 3xxx series Nvidia or 6xxx series AMD is the way to go especially if you want a decent amount of vram for the price. This generation costs too much for what it delivers.

@@marshallmcluhan33 Yes, agreed.

So you don't like reviewers telling the truth?

Seriously the used market argument is pure bullshit you could say the exact same thing for every gen

@@legros731 i agree with you, comparing mostly by price instead of performance will lead to wrong conclusion over time since price arent allways the same, the do change, actually it even changed before lunch and we will see how do they move. also if we compare 6600 vs 7600 we see it improved while if we see 3060ti vs 4060ti well... still isnt enought but hope the 7600xt, 7650xt (if there is) and 7700xt be show more of improved and not just like the refresh like nvidia did on 4060ti btw great that intel is improving quickly, wont buy them on this gen or in the next one but who know here from 2 gen ahead if keep improving it will be great for the market and consumers

Intel discounted the A750 to 199$ yesterday

I honestly, at some point you just have to go for it and then quit looking at prices. You’ll always be able to find a better deal than what you got, and if you wait long enough, the price will always come down or something new will come out for the same price. if you really want to wait for the best value for your dollar, wait about 20 years and get what comes out then. Or go used. 2080 supers are sitting at under 300 right now, and they will blow most stuff he showed today out of the water

@@marekcelko580 Damn! lets go Intel. If they can get the A770 16GB down to 300 USD and the 8GB variant to 270 USD, then adoption will be huge. Battlemage looks like it could slaughter Nvidias midrange, especially with RT stuff like Metro Exodus.

I've just upgraded RTX 3060 Ti to a RTX 4070. The old card started to make weird fan noises, and in the last year or so, temperatures raised and the graphic card got extremely hot. Even after turning On my PC, the card idle in higher temperatures. It got to the point when certain games that it worked well before would crashed. I've always kept the internal PC case and the graphical clean, and every month I've would airblow inside the case, take out components and clean them separately, put it back in, just doing my regular monthly maintenance. But I do not understand what could caused the graphic card to work badly. Now I do not feel bad purchasing a RTX 4070 :)

@@ShaiyaSin1 Can happen with any component that has a cooler on it. Probably needed new thermal paste. Doesn't really have anything to do with the 3060Ti chip itself and more with the cooler.

Do people really use RT? I've turned it on once and was like cool and turned it off again lol

@@kimberly4275 if I had a RTX card I definitely would if it looked nice! I'm one of those who loved PhysX, Hariworks, TressFX hair, PCSS shadows and all those fancy effects! Also, IMO, Assassin's Creed Unity PCSS shadows are just amazing! If RT Shadow are as good as those I would definitely turn it on! Dang...back in the day I've decided to get a 9600GT instead of the AMD counterpart 'cause Mirror's Edge looked way better with PhysX on!

@@kimberly4275 Yes, but really only on high end cards. I would only recommend it on the 7900XT and up, or 4070ti and up. Though the 6950xt is pretty decent at it. This would be a purely academic teat.

@@Aremisalive I have used ray tracing on 6800XT with no problems whatsoever. Only game it struggled with was GOTG and even that was just a couple of minor stutters.

4060 Ti its totally different price point,plus it has more performance out of the box. I guess RX 7600 will be compared with RTX 4060 (non Ti).

Agreed... If the 4070 Ti were closer to our under $500 it would be easier to convince myself to upgrade. I passed my 3080 10gb on and put in an RX 6600 when it was at $220 for a place holder.. I'm not having enough right now and will probably wait until the next CPU generation and hopefully better memory controller from AMD and Intel. Wanting to stay at 128gb.

for me my current PC a GTX 1060 6Go with ADM 2700 CPU this card might be an interesting choice since I don't usually play ULTRA settings 1080p so we shall see