Funny with the economy the way it is you'd think they'd go for lower budget cards that normal people could shop for and that still compete since they have higher end cards already for the enthusiasts or people who have the money to buy higher end. Guess if your an average perrson who just likes gaming your assed out unless you save for a year lol

I, personally, would not call this a 'higher end'. Mid tier maybe. But it is the new high, mid, low era we're in... it ain't gonna change when they keep selling these cards.

…must be funny! In the rich man’s world!

Ahaaaaaaiaaaah!

If I'm not wrong for 30 and 40 series they've started with the 90 series and worked their way back, it's not necessarily them focusing on the "high end" gpus it's just what they planned to be release next and shouldn't be unexpected

You guys like this but he didn't have time to do the AMD cards? Sounds fishy

the content doesn´t match the title though, i got scammed

agreed

yep I feel like the best bang for your buck atm is still a used 3060 12gb if you are still having something older. I still play on my 1070ti 8gb and I really dont know what to upgrade to, I actually want atleast 16gb for my next card but the prices are insane.. I am actually looking at the Intel Arc A770 because it has 16gb for only 400 Bucks which is unmatched, but they still seem to have driver issues with dx11 and dx9 if I heard correctly. Ill probably still keep the waiting game and see what happens, but if things dont get better I have to make a decision at some point...

Depending what you're looking at, your price range if you want to go high end, and where you live consider amd's graphic card offerings. Last gen's Radeon 6950xtx is punching well above the 4070's weight class at the same price (in some regions in my part of the US it's the same or cheaper) and more vram plus the driver support has been great. Through the communities dedicated support for upgrading outdated cards. It will likely have a long life span. The 7900xt and xtx both punch equal if not well above the 4080 for pricing similar to the 4070ti's price as well as as having an insane amount vram. Just do be aware of the risk of those two card right now as some do have physical issues but if you get an ok bored from them the driver support should keep it relevant for a long time to come. Unless you feel like you need path tracing specifically, amd is in a good spot right now surprisingly. And honestly I don't think path tracing is gonna be decent or widely supported until another architect upgrade possible 2. I'd say consider used but considering the miner boom there's no way of knowing how heavily over used and under cooled some cards were versus won't. So I can't in good conscious recommend used this time around. And it feels really weird to say that.

stick with budget builds. that's what I've always done, and I've done many builds in my time (since the 1990s). you don't need some GPU that will cost you as much as a complete system should cost you unless you want to play games that were released the last year at very high framerates or at very high settings. charts made by reviewers tend to use pointlessly high settings. just use "high" or "medium" and you'll be able to play most games just fine even if your GPU is "budget".

Look into an 6800xt. Amazing 1440p ultra card, amazing price to performance!

Buy ARC! If not this gen, then hold off until the next generation of ARC, which - if driver updates continue to see 3-5% improvements to performance EVERY MONTH it's possible that even the second generation ARC GPU will be swinging up with AMD, if not Nvidia!

Same here... Man, Nvidia is great, but AMD is for gamers.Nvidias main target are the professionals that need Nvidia productivity software and enthusiasts.. if you're not one of them, THEN A M D IS F O R Y O U .

I nearly went for Nvidia but stuck to AMD, I was AMD back in early 2000s and glad I stuck by them

i'd also keep a eye on Intel's graphic cards, they got a 2nd generation in the works that hopefully is them punching through and comparing well to AMD/Nvidia cards.

4090: 20 GB VRAM, $1600 7900 XTX: 24 GB VRAM, $1000 Need I say more. Sure the 4090 is faster, but for $600 more, on what planet is that worth it. And less VR so overtime it will be worse than the XTX? What a joke

@@thisislame2207 Intel is awesome for sure! Their drivers have been maturing slowly. I think the only place they fall behind is legacy game support. DX9 and earlier titles especially have very poor performance with Intel GPUs according to almost every reviewer on KZfaq.

If you go by pascal’s scale of cards the 1070 was amazing, if you put the performance ratios of the 40 series into the naming of the 10 series, the 4070 should be called a 4050 even though they gave it the price of what should be the 4080.

@@danshimandle1938 Not 4050. I would go with 4060Ti at maximum. But yes - with 4080 price. In our country you can get new RX 6800 for 499USD or 2nd hand for 349USD. Today I slightly regret that I didn't wait longer and bought (2nd hand) 6700XT. I'd rather have the 6800 16GB card. But even the 6700XT is pretty good for 2K gaming. Nitro+, undervolted and quiet as a mouse. RTX 4070 is perfect card for today's 2K gaming, but not for 599USD. Should have been at least 100USD cheaper.

Join us 60 an 60ti guys we're still afloat

I’m a “x80” guy. Luckily I’m also an “every other gen” guy, so the 8800XT (lol) should be pretty good

Why do people keep grouping themselves by model numbers... If you used to be an 80s then get the 70 since they are about equal. All this stuff is just a mess... People need to quit just looking at model numbers and compare the performance they are getting for the price instead.

dang,, I bought a 4080. 😭😭. making me feel like a dumby

I bought a 4070fe. Honestly if I’m going to get similar performance of a 3080 for 150w less I’ll take it. I have a 3080 now and it runs 15-20c hotter and only gives maybe 10% better performance on certain titles? If you have the money, this ain’t bad and you can splurge on a higher end card later lol

@@Wheel-os I originally bought a 4070 ti, and it was way more than I needed tbh. I don't play games, just surf the web and try and mess around in fruity loops. but running msi kombustor and watching the fps 😂😂🤣🤣. it's like a drag race, you always wanna beat your score somehow. so I decided to do a whole new build for a 2nd computer, all white td500 mesh 13700k 4080 aero white Asia horse and cablemod cables... white 280mm white nzxt x63 there's some black on the mobo and psu that give a decent contrast for the casing. I'm terribly new to cable management though 😩. everything is running but I really wish I bought a bigger case to start with. and could get my wire runs a lot neater.

With 6950xt, you can still afford wait for a while until nvidia crashes and burns on their current catalog pricing..

I don’t know why I want a good gpu I don’t even play high performance demanding games.

Which card you thinking? I need a new gpu before counter strike 2 comes put. Just built a 13700k build but my 1070 remains in it due to my inability to figure out what to buy. Just seems like an awful time to need a new gpu.

@@hobosnake1 Same spot here with the exception that I have 6900k instead of 13700k. I'm thinking maybe either rx 6950 xt or rx 7900 xt for longer term. Originally looked at RTX 4070 and 4070 ti, but they seem to be on drugs.

@Dezmont I was thinking the 6950xt as well. I just have never used amd. I don't know in practice what the differences will be. I like editing video and recording gameplay in CS, I need to research the differences a bit more before I pull the trigger, but the 6950xt seems like a better idea if you're like me and prefer not to swap out hardware until a complete new build is in order.

6950xt is 599 at microcenter, still. Way cheaper than a 4070 and a bit faster. Plus more VRAM, though 12gb is probably not as bad as 8gb like 3070.

@@hobosnake1 I have a 6800xt, (used to have a 3070 but sold it for a profit) so I can tell you this: the H264 encoder is bad, but the HEVC (265) works fine, and streaming is waaaay better than geforce experience bloatware. Open source everything is a nice touch, so if you use linux on the side, it's a no brainer, just plug and play. If you get the 7900xt, you will have AV1 encoding however, if that matter to you. I think you can get it for $700 open box, not sure. Edit: 7900xt $680 open box.

prolly a typo?

Thanks for the suggestion, Ill play with the charts a bit.

contrasting colours would also help visually

I also liked this format much more than with some (rock) music over it.

Agreed. My 1080 still plays every game I own at high to maxed out completely at 1080p which is what I game at (For now, until something compelling comes along. Wouldn't mind a 3080ti) but I'm just not happy with the prices for the 40 series, and seeing how they fucked the 70 line, up I don't even want one of those now either. I'm usually an 80 or higher, but man. $1200 for a 4080 is slightly more than double what I paid for my 1080

@@artvandelay9131 I just sold my 1080 with 150 euros. Masterful product imo. I bought it new for 450€. I updated to used 3080 and paid 600 of it. I don't play a lot but I guess I can go few years with this..

I'm the same. I'm just willing to get a 3080ti because my 1080ti shows its age when I plug it into a 4K tv. But the price is still holding me back. I just don't get why people simply hit the buy button and that is it. Don't they think it sends a message that those prices are ok?

@@BrunoRodrigoPintodaSilva As someone that has a 4080, I just want to play games? I work hard, make good ass money at my job, want to come home to a peak gaming experience of 100 fps 1440p ultrawide max settings. I'm not gonna not buy something I want and can afford just to send some company a message that isn't going to be heard anyway. It's fucking video games, it's not that serious. Sorry, I guess? lol

@@ForeverMasterless I really get you point of view. It just gets on my nerves that we don't get what we feel we should get. When you buy a car with a higher power/mass ratio you expect it to be more powerful, in the end it's just a car. OK, you can buy a 100k USD car that is focused on building materials and not power itself, but you know what you will get. What do you want with a VGA? I guess we all want our fps, and it seems we are paying for god know what, because the price is going up much faster than graphics and fps. I really hope you get what I wanted to express. Anyway, great weekend for all of us.

Same. Got a 2080s which was a "bad value" at the time.... lol

@@thegobstopper323 still rocking my 1080

still using my 2060s

Same, 2070 Super still chugging away and I have no plans to upgrade

It’s a good card, I have the FE sitting on a shelf on display. Nicest card, build wise, I’ve ever had.

Agree with almost everything here. I'd amend the last sentence though: "To those folks, you're stupid cunts."

you are subsidizing an amazing journey of AI medicine which will cure cancer and save lifes🤣so that is great

I agree wholeheartedly. I have a 3080 and it's the last NVidia card that I will buy. I will definitely go with an AMD GPU on my next build in a few years. Intel's ARC cards are picking up some steam with their driver updates

GPU prices, and those from Nvidia in particular, won't go down as long as people keep buying their products. And they do. I don't know who, spending more than $300 on a GPU - and that price used to give you a high end GPU - seems ludicrous to me. In case anyone's wondering for some reason, I'm still using a RX 570. I've thought about getting a RX 6600, but I'm not convinced it's worth buying AMD either since they seem to have a mindset of "we'll just put stuff out there that's barely got a better price/performance ratio than nvidia since consumers have the choice of buying that or nvidias slightly more overpriced cards"

Just built a new super rig around my 1660 specifically with the intent to build around it to support up to most of the RTX series GPUs, and didn't even have to debate with myself about whether I remain loyal to Nvidia like I have for well over a decade now. I went back to Radeon and while I'm excited for the change, I'm still slightly bummed that it came to a point where Nvidia has gotten so delusional with their pricing that I bought a competitor card without even a second thought. All because it posts the same or better specs as some of the RTX cards at like... I think I paid almost $1,000 less 🙄

Hooked on the nvidia train? Why the are abusing all you.

agreed much prefer this over the 20 minutes of charts and music

Yes, but perhaps next time try it with the rocker music at low volume behind it!

@@HFRG-zq1qm Haha. To be fair, I have always enjoyed the rocker music.

@@seth4321 So have I, so give us the best of both!

RADEON! 👏RADEON! 👏 RADEON! 👏

niceee i got a 6700xt recently prices arent to bad!

Don't have to worry about running out of vram anytime soon

I would stick with team red but their video encoders are quite shit compared to team green. When using a VR headset like a Quest or a Pico it's noticeably worse. Wish AMD would get that straight before the end of the century.

I have the Sapphire Nitro 7900XT one... This card is a beast! I have beat with them recently the spytime extreme world record (with fan cooling, no liquid nitrogen or so).

Price per performance is basically on the level of previous generation which means 4+ years of stagnation altogether... At least the power consumption is lower thanks to move from Samsung to TSMC.

eh im more annoyed by the fact that it doesnt perform as good as last gen top tier. as it should do.

@@Pand0rasAct0r_ Yes, but all cards should now have at least 12gb so this card is, in reality, what should have been the 4060 (or 4060ti).

@@generalawareness101 nah, it just should have had more vram. A 4060 performing this well would have been pretty crazy.

@@Blissy1175 Not for a 4060ti they are planning on releasing with effing 8gb. DOA.

i prefer the 6900xt over the 6950xt only because the 6950 tends uses a lot more watts for pretty much no difference in performance and its usually about the same price.

Ray tracing is getting more important, and you're losing out on NVIDIA features there. DLSS is just superior to FSR, and NVIDIA has graphic upscaling for videos and livestreams. Forget the branding for it but its **amazing**. Streams look freaking amazing with it turned on. If you're willing to pay for the power the card is using.

@@deathhimself1653 12GB vram not enough, especially with RT on. Those ray acceleration structures need memory too. There will be games where this card loses in RT benchmarks because it doesn't have enough memory for RT mode.

2.5x power consumption difference. Stop saying ''the same price point'', unless you're not the one paying the electrical bill.

@@SomeFrenchDude not to mention turning your room into a sauna lmao. It it’s exactly why I think the 6900xt is better than the 6950xt, way less power consumption with basically same performance.

Just wait a little bit and if you want 4k gaming atleast pick the card with 16 gb vram atleast

Yeah I'm thinking the same. I don't upgrade yearly so I agree with getting the most vram you can get

The XTX is a much better value than the XT if they're going by msrp

@@chilpeeps 4k is trash, ultrawide or nothing.

@@drunkhusband6257 on big oled 4k is necessary.

ditto mate same card to.. was hoping to be a convert to AMD but they missed the opportunity

Same boat. Got the RTX 4090 with a LG C2 4k 120fps monitor. Why? All cards are expensive but only the 4090 have VRAM to run any game at 4K and higher FPS. The rest of the 4000 series will have issues with low vram soon enough. In Brazil, the GPU prices are wild. An RTX 4090 is around 2000 to 3000USD. An RTX 4080 is around 1500 to 3000USD. Only the 4090 made sense here.

Jaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy

The iFixit promo makes me thank God for sponsorblock

the iFixit stuff is always my favorite opener to any youtube video ever these days, always makes me smile, and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna end up buying a set or two anyways because it's so good

the world of warships promo is WAY better, just because we get to see Jay in full admiral dress uniform which looks dope as hell

@@iamamish WHAT!?!? I'M PLAYING WORLD OF WARSHIPS!!!

To be honest. I have a PS5. I just got a new PC. Which I am now gonna be $2,000 into it by the time its all said and done. And TBH. If you are JUST focused on gaming… and not into any other PC specific type shit. The PS5 is much simpler to use. Easy to just jump into 4k/60 games. I love the PS5. The advantage for PC is if you are into playing competitive shooters at 1080/1440 for High FPS. If you are into RPG’s ect…. The PS5 is the way to go

big number good, small number bad, duh

Maybe at me, small content creator who wants GPU to work without problems while playing and recording like I had with AMD, but the price is acceptable if I do some overtime at work.

@@Nub85204 I know, that why I won't buy it new from the store, there's always some other way, I've never bought one new.

Yea lots of people seem to have forgotten this.

complete scam indeed, i mean it's been how many years and you get a 3080 for 100 bucks less and less power? sure it's improvement but this is way less than what it should be

All these reviewers seem to attempt to soften the reality....

Yea same. I just a 3090 a few months ago for dumb cheap, less than $800 lol

What PSU do you have?

I did the same bought white strix oc version of rtx 3090 for 740eur even had the ring with and I am super happy with it

Did the same thing just last month. Found a TUF 3090 that was less than a third of the price of a 4090 in mint condition.

@@BlessedNoobwhy do that when there 4070 ti is less than 800 and is cheaper to run and outperforms the 3090 ti

Still using my 1070 as well. I'm so surprised how well it plays some games, Cyberpunk 2077 is running great for me. Granted if that game didn't use FSR 2.0 I probably wouldn't be having such a good time.

@@TheInternetwatcher In the same boat here, price to performance it doesn't make sense to jump ship when most of my games run ultra 1080p no issue

We got great price to performance uplifts with new shifts in architecture culminating in the amazing value of Pascal and the amazing value of the 30-series cards. But the generation after those always to seems horrible. 20-series, now 40-series has bother been super anti-consumer priced cards that were out of touch with all but enthusiasts.

90-95%of new games are boring

@@naapsuvaimne740 truth. I'd love to upgrade my 1070 but with the way pricing is it's not worth it to me when nothing interesting has been releasing anyway.

More like its the new 1080 but then again i game on 1080p with my trustee gtx1080

Pretty much. This is awful for a 70 card.

yeah and the **60 is the new **garbage lmao 8gb 4060 ti??????????? axaxaxqxax1x1x1x1xaxaxaxaxa

70 class is still a 70 class GPU. A reasonable price GPU that gets you high->ultra settings. 60 class is still 60 class. A cheap GPU that's powerful enough to play the latest games. The only difference is prices have gone up some. But that's more to blame on the economy than GPU manufacturers. Computer parts aren't the only thing getting more expensive.

@@johnc8327 cheap lmao, brainwashed nvidia fanboy right here, get help

380 Pounds is ~$620, or the price of this card, that offers 4 times the performance. Sounds about right for 4 years.... wait, it's been 10 years?

@@taekwoncrawfish9418 Most people don't, lol.

@Delorean911Turbo yea these humans really need a slap of reality and truly appreciate what all goes into computer components in general and all they have to do is spend the money and get pleasure like wow man

​@@Delorean911Turbo Except the 780 TI was one of the top tier products with only the titan being higher at the time.

Disagree completely. DLSS 3 is a complete game changer for fps.

@@drunkhusband6257 yea…fake frames with textures missing and adding lag… and only 6 games supported…it is a game changer 😂

@@crossfire4902 It's new tech, and I have never seen textures missing, or any added lag. DLSS 3 is amazing, getting 2x the framerate with no downside is great.

@@drunkhusband6257 its a fps gimmick generator to support those low end nvidia cards. if you're not going to buy a 4090 or 4080 then just get the 6950xt. real raw performance no gimmick at all.

@@brikev almost 2x the fps isn't a gimmick.

NVIDIA be having Dollar signs in their eyes. 😂

Your point being? In adjusted dollars, $650 2014 dollars is $825 2023 dollars...

@@awebuser5914 my income didn't jump that much either, dingus.

@@ZeroHourProductions407 Well, you didn't have a decent job, obviously! CPI is CPI, your job should have kept pace, unless it is minimum-wage...

The ripples have already started. My friends who have had PCs for the last 30 years are moving to a steam deck.

Still rocking mine too even though it's nearly 6 months old

@@Nub85204 when i got 6800 i sold my old 1060 for a little less than what i paid for it new

''Aunt AMD'', these posts are so cringe.

Same here. 2070 super running new titles at 2k just fine. I keep watching these release videos, but feel uninspired to drop the cash, especially when it it's necessary.

By noteworthy I hope you mean laughable a $780 card matching the raytracing performance of a $600 card.

@@courier3567 RT is cringe, rasterization is da way imo

A 4070 isn't meant for high resolutions, it's a 1080p card

@@drunkhusband6257 so for only 600 dollars you can get yourself a 1080p card in 2023. sounds like a deal

@@drunkhusband6257 1440p

Wanted to ask. I have a mag b460m mortar wifi Msi 2070 super i7-10700F 32gb ram Corsair LPX vengeance Msi 550 Watts PSU (planning to change out for a 750, but I wanna know if a 650 is enough) I’m planning to switch my 2070 super to an AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT Phantom gaming 16gb GDDR6 ($539 USD). I’ve just heard amd is bad with drivers and such and that nvidia is overall better but I’ve done benchmarks online and seen the 6800 xt performs better than my 2070s, so I just wanted your thoughts. (This is why I’m upping my psu, would 650 watts be sufficient?) New to all this PC stuff, my pc is a pre but it is pretty good and was only 1399 (original had 16g ram not 32)

Yeah but you are missing very sweet stuff like RT + DLSS. Go used man, I recently bought 2060 Super (upgrade from 1060 3gb, also used, 3 years and still kicking) and even though this card is I think on par or maybe less powerful than 1080ti on paper, once you turn on DLSS 2, you jump even in 1080p so much higher in fps it's not even funny. CP2077 (1080p) with RT on = 30fps. With RT on + DLSS = 70fps. Of course you don't have to play with RT, but once you try it you kinda never want to go back. Also this used card has Samsung memory so it can be very nicely overclocked to 2070 basically. The card was selling in it's prime for like 800$, I bought it for 170$ (still with warranty). So even if it went bad I can replace it. There are some good deals out there, just be aware of scammers or cards used for extensive mining (techpowerup bios check can help). Oh and with the money I saved from buying like 700$ new graphics card, I was able to upgrade my whole PC (CPU, mobo/RAM and PSU)

My first gen 2070 out performed my 1080ti and used half the volts. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@chemeister that's weird, UserBenchmark says 1080ti should be faster than 2060S and also 2070/2070S ..maybe driver issue?

@@chemeister you mean wattage? as when it does use half the volts, it doesn't say anything without the current, so the wattage could be very similar (U*I=P)

Used 6800 XT will get you anywhere between 60-90% performance uplift with less power draw.

But at the cost of losing frames.

Not really, considering that the rtx 4070 is a 60 class card and not a 70 class card.

Same here ill be getting a 4070

4GB more over the 2070s, not exactly going to last long. I don't see the 4070 a upgrade over my 2070s.

you ngot scammed and you want to get scammed again?

@@venataciamoon2789 Because the RTX 4070 has 226mm^2 die size out of a 295mm^2 full chip, which is basically the RTX 3050 which has a 198mm^2 die size cut from a 276mm^2 chip. The RTX 4070 is literally the successor to the RTX 3050...

Same

Why would you want a 40 series when you have a 30 series card anyway? Still rocking a 1080Ti and it's serving me absolutely fine, only recently started to even think about upgrading, I can still run all the modern games (albeit not at the highest graphic settings).

same, mine is ASUS TUF, got it launch day at MSRP If they continue their shenanigans with the 50 series I may finally jump to AMD next time

The 3080 is good for a few more years yet. I got mine to replace a 980, which was only just starting to struggle with VR. We have a 1060 in the house which the kids use and it's still a 60 fps machine at 1080p on almost anything we throw at it ( the 1060 was similar performance to the previous gen 980). Unless you're a 4K gamer and are desperate for the full RT experience, the old cards still hold up well. The lower power draw is impressive though, but not $600 impressive

Me too. Going to safe for rtx 5090

30s don't have DLSS3...

@@ksk622 DLSS2 is more than enough, what are you even saying?

@@thomasb282 DLSS3, 4k120, lower temperature, lower power consumption, cheaper. I am a BFG gamer in an ITX box. It is even better without ray-tracing turning on. In my opinion, without RT, one might consider switching to AMD card

Now I'm interested

where i am we can find really good deal on 6800XT, still a great card

@@seedbarrett Thanks for the suggestion.

I would be careful about the RTX 4060, it is supposed to have only 8 GB of VRAM (and will age really badly). Like others said, take a look at some of the AMD offerings like 6700 XT, 6800