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@Hardwareunboxed 2 ай бұрын

This video in a nutshell: X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5600X3D 5700X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D X3D 5700X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D X3D X3D X3D 5800X3D X3D 5700X3D 5600X3D X3D

@raufsiam7341 2 ай бұрын

lmao

@ravenkroft 2 ай бұрын

I hope no one is doing a drinking game where every time Steve says x3d = 1 shot

@ausnorman8050 2 ай бұрын

NEEDS MORE X3D

@tns6862 2 ай бұрын

Fair summary

@userxyz783 2 ай бұрын

damn that might give someone an epilepsy attack

@kenshirogenjuro873 2 ай бұрын

Choosing to include the 3600, 7600, and 7800X3Ds in the data is extremely useful

@desmasic 2 ай бұрын

I use 2600x (since 2019), and have been eyeing 5800x3d or 5900x over a GPU upgrade (1060), because upgrading the CPU is cheaper at this point to get gameplay performance boost.

@kenshirogenjuro873 2 ай бұрын

@@desmasic if gaming is the priority, then 5800X3D all the way

@OneShotCS 2 ай бұрын

@desmasic also 5600x3D or 5700x3D if its cheaper since its all within the same performance gaming wise

@BleedForTheWorld 2 ай бұрын

HU understood the assignment well

@SauceyCos 2 ай бұрын

yeah im on the 3600 currently. realizing its probably time to finally upgrade with stuff that doesnt cost insane prices is an eye opener honestly. issue im having is im building it for streaming as well. i have an old(6 years) 1080 GPU, so im debating on getting a 6800xt to match + 5700x3d and then later in 1-2 years get a 7800x3d and move on to new gen.

@stefannita3439 2 ай бұрын

The fact that I can drop in a 290 Euro CPU (275 for the 57X3D) into my 96 Euro motherboard from 2019 and instantly skip ahead 2 generations and 4 years in terms of gaming performance is absolutely insane to me

@DeanClean42069 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. This 5700x3d is bad ass. Its so much faster than my 3700x, and my 3700x was FAST. Even though this 5700x3d has a lower clockspeed than my 3700x, its IPC has improved so greatly that it speeds things up impressively. Instead of being 2 CCX's comprised of 4cores+4cores separated by cache and infinity fabric with this 5000 series all 8 cores are unified without separation, so they're a unified ccx chiplet, all 8 cores crammed tightly together with this vcache on top. There's less distance for information to have to travel across, so it greatly increases speed. I like the design. Mine doesn't exceed 55C when I'm gaming. Good performing chip.

@stefannita3439 2 ай бұрын

@@DeanClean42069 my 5800X3D should be here within the next 2 days, I know the 57 was better value but I thought I might as well go all out since this is the absolute last upgrade I'll ever be able to do with this motherboard. I'm on a 3600 that I got in 2019 right now, I'm super excited lol

@user-dv5ts3de8e 2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile I'm using i7 9700 with usual single-use intel platform. To be fair, there was no X3D, when it came out and hypethreading was impacting game performance instead of improving it, while AMD had issues with ram compatibility. But still its disappointing that I need to replace mobo+ram and reinstall OS(the most annoying part) just to upgrade my CPU.

@Batman-bh6vw 2 ай бұрын

@@stefannita3439 Enjoying the same exact upgrade for a week now. Worth it.

@Batman-bh6vw 2 ай бұрын

@@DeanClean42069 Is that watercooled? My 5800X3D goes to around 75C in a stress test on a Noctua NH-D15.

@jesperburns 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for including the 3600

@roneeh7332 2 ай бұрын

I am still using the 3600 and thinking what cpu is best for an upgrade for AM4, or if would go to AM5. This video really helps!

@Kreeschon 2 ай бұрын

i'm on the 3700x which is basically the same performance as the 3600, so this was helpful for me as well

@SupremeLordEnki 2 ай бұрын

@@Kreeschon I just swap from a 3700x to a 7800x3d this week

@reggiexp69 2 ай бұрын

i went from a ryzen 3600 to a ryzen 7 5800x i kept refusing to buy a ryzne 5600 cause i have done every ryzen 5 upgrade since am4 so its like not that much of a upgrade multple times it was on aliexpress for 115€ but i got my 5800x for 160€ shiped from amazon so am happy. i wanted to get the 5800x3d but those prices for me who doesnt game that much i couldnt get my self to spend 270€ for the x3d

@IceBreakBottle 2 ай бұрын

@@roneeh7332 You're already on AM4 so go 5700x3d or 5800x3d. They will comfortably handle any GPU on todays market

@SIW808 2 ай бұрын

What AMD has done with the 7800X3D is insane. 31% performance uplift in a single generation is massive.

@2intheampm512 2 ай бұрын

It's very impressive. I'm honestly also expecting that the gap between base Zen 5 and Zen 5 X3D to be even larger than the gap between Zen 4 and its X3D counterparts. Zen 5 will end up more memory bandwidth starved than Zen 4, so the Vcache should help even more

@sweeneyliu6054 2 ай бұрын

@@2intheampm512can you elaborate on 'zen5 will end up more memory bandwidth starved than zen4' ?🤔

@plonk420 2 ай бұрын

only if you have a high end/flagship GPU 😭

@georgegkoumas4455 2 ай бұрын

31% with an rtx 4090 at 1080p

@whohan779 2 ай бұрын

@@georgegkoumas4455Exactly. Why would you even consider AM4 at the point your GPU is worth two grand? 🤔🙄

@broklond 2 ай бұрын

Love the inclusion of the r5 3600, because this is exactly the upgrade path I'm looking forward to!

@chewbster 2 ай бұрын

it’s a very, very common CPU. Pretty sure a lot of views come from those who have it. It should be included in all videos / charts for another year lol

@Alakazam551 2 ай бұрын

I mean my 3600 hasn't struggled in gaming yet that i've noticed (i don't play a lot of AAA releases though) but if i can gain a performance increase from my 6700xt as well as increasing the lows a big chunk without a platform upgrade, then i'm sold. We can sell our 3600's to recoup maybe 30-40% of the cost with the 5700x3d, it's kind of a no brainer.

@Fentskii 2 ай бұрын

@@Alakazam551I'm considering upgrading because my r5 2600 has started to struggle thanks to Valve's decision to port CSGO to Source 2 for some unholy reason and have it cpu bottlenecked as hell on my system lol I'd totally go with the 5600x3d but it's a NA exclusive unfortunately, can't buy those in Brazil

@Alakazam551 2 ай бұрын

@@Fentskii Yeah when i first heard about the 5600x3d i was excited till i found out it was US only, 5700x3d solves that at still a decent price (decent discount over 5800x3d where i live). I have seen some benchmarks in the past showing from 2nd gen (what you have) to standard 5000 series and it was already a massive difference in performance , add the 3d cache and you're probably looking at over 100% increase in the best cases and still a massive increase in worst case lol. Edit: idk what the market is like in Brazil, but the 2600 is still a very capable cpu in everything bar really cpu intensive gaming , so hopefully you'll be able to sell it on or use it for family / 2nd pc.

@rommelreyes2209 2 ай бұрын

Funny thing is do you have 3600 and 4090?

@burger-enjoyer 2 ай бұрын

Really nice job on charts. They are not cluttered, black lines between CPU series and transparent effect on non-5gen cpus really makes them easier to read as well.

@user-dv5ts3de8e 2 ай бұрын

The most important thing is they start at zero. God bless everyone who doesnt cut charts like marketing division to show "huge" improvements over previous product.

@Xilent1 2 ай бұрын

I feel like Gamers Nexus charts are too confusing to read. Then he called himself updating them and it just made it more complicated. His explanation to me didn't help either. Maybe, I don't know how to read charts.

@eli72481 2 ай бұрын

@@dlewis9760Right, but if they tested with a 4060 and were gpu limited, then it isn't very useful information.

@vannatter09 11 күн бұрын

He has the best charts

@VoldoronGaming 2 ай бұрын

What’s amazing is the performance uplift on the 7800 X3D which is many cases it’s 1% lows we’re almost as fast as the average frame rate as these Ryzen 5000 models. Incredible.

@Kringey1 2 ай бұрын

I love my 7800x3d if you ever think about upgrading and have the money it is 100% worth it

@dynamichunter843 Ай бұрын

@@Kringey1just bought mine in a bundle deal on Newegg with mobo & ram with a 7900xt, super excited for 1440p ultrawide gaming :D

@Kringey1 Ай бұрын

@@dynamichunter843 it is worth it been enjoying it with nitro+ xtx for a year now literally the best gaming combo i was super scared about pulling the trigger on it but 100% worth it my buddy loves the xt what model did you get

@michaelstaruszkiewicz8798 2 ай бұрын

My 5800X3D CPU was itemized as $150 in the Micro Center Bundle I bought 2 days ago.

@johnbernhardtsen3008 2 ай бұрын

dang thats cheap!345 dollars for it now here in denmark, buying an x570 mobo and 5800x3d for my nephew over the next 2 months!he just got a nice 42 inch 144mhz monitor for Christmas!he will have a better gamer set up than mine soon!

@Flashv28 2 ай бұрын

@@johnbernhardtsen3008 Why 58x3d when 7600x/7600 has the same Performance + Upgrade path? Probably cost for am5+ddr5? Though 7600 is around 190€ nowadays

@johnbernhardtsen3008 2 ай бұрын

I kinda got the ram for it already! if I am going to upgrade from my new 5800x, which killed an 85 dollar aio cooler, its going to be Intel i5 13600k at least! I gave him 32gb 3600mhz rgb ram last month!and after he is upgraded to the 5800x3d I will send him the other 32gb@@Flashv28

@cunubis4138 2 ай бұрын

@@johnbernhardtsen3008buying x570 and x3d new is really stupid sorry

@mgguner1249 2 ай бұрын

at this point you should get am5 board and 7600x for basically same price and performance but better upgrade path@@johnbernhardtsen3008

@NizarElZarif 2 ай бұрын

Thank for including the 3600 and 5600. i think most people thinking of 5700x3d are people with that 3rd or 2nd gen ryzen, and it is nice to see the upgrade expected

@aeropb 2 ай бұрын

was hoping you'd get this video made! thanks for doing it!

@willscitarkov3013 2 ай бұрын

Great timing. Micro Center has all of these on sale right now, and I just reserved the last 5600X3d at my local store. They were out of stock in December but at least one came back in stock and it's my lucky day. $25 new customer coupon will bring it down a little more.

@andrewcross5918 2 ай бұрын

Please, especially in these CPU roundup videos, find a way to add some tic-rate and turn time testing. GN have added late game Stellaris so a HOI4 test and a civ 6 turn time test would be really really great additions. They are widely played and are the kind of title many people turn to between AAA releases while also being the kind of title where budgeting more on the CPU instead of GPU can actually make sense.

@maxolina 2 ай бұрын

Yes please, there are a lot of people who want better CPUs not for improved framerates but for improved turn times (civ, warhammer, etc) or improved simulation speed (Victoria3, Hoi4, etc). Those games are perfectly fine at 40-60fps but benefit massively from improved simulation speeds.

@user-dv5ts3de8e 2 ай бұрын

I've upgraded my CPU only because of Minecraft performance. Still wondering how X3D may perform in a heavily modded java game. There is also "7 days to die", that drops framerate inside tall buildings.

@luzhang2982 2 ай бұрын

I do want to see proper tick rate , turn speed and simulation speed testing, but fwiw, there are proper Stellaris benchmarks around for the 5800x3D and they beat the pants off of non x3d variants of that generation.

@madigorfkgoogle9349 2 ай бұрын

also some CPU intensive sim would be great, MS2020 maybe? There is not a big point going trough 4 same/similar style games...

@102728 2 ай бұрын

Problem with tic-rate games is that they see performance degradation as time progresses and the simulation contains more and more objects to perform calculations on. So even a relatively weak processor will do fine in the early game, while late game is where you'd want to focus your performance improvements since that's where you'll see the most - and the most impactful - degradation. Now I can't recall exactly how this was tested in the videos I saw it tested in (GN, Level 1 Techs), but my suspicion is that as the complexity increases with the game progressing, that in the late game you overflow that v-cache buffer more and more, reducing the benefit it offers more and more as you approach more and more performance impacted phases of the game. At some point raw clock speed is bound to outclass a v-cache benefit you get in the earlier game. Like I said, I don't know where, by my suspicion, the performance graphs between v-cache and clock speed would intersect, so I'd love to see some focused testing on that if anyone knows of a source that has done so.

@nonstickmeat_ssb 2 ай бұрын

Wow as a 3600 owner this video made my mind up for me, I'm not far from a micro Center so a 5600X3D looks like a no-brainer. The loss of frequency in the 5700x3D is too large for it to keep up with its older and younger brothers

@reggiexp69 2 ай бұрын

@cnk-fn3nr 2 ай бұрын

It gets 2 extra cores over the 5600x3d though, which some games will benefit from and non gaming tasks.

@solocamo3654 2 ай бұрын

Just get the 5800X3D. A small price to pay for the extra cores if this is your main system.

@terr281 2 ай бұрын

My spouse was upgraded from a 1600AF (a downclocked 2600) straight to the 5600X3D and the improvement was massive. My system went from a 3600 to a 5800X3D, same thing... massive improvement. And, per this video... it is very difficult to tell the difference in the two systems in gaming. (I use the extra cores to run a virtual, hosted, system on my desktop when not gaming.) If you have access to a 5600X3D as an upgrade, get it... and don't second guess at all.

@reggiexp69 2 ай бұрын

@@terr281 i did ryzen 3 1200 to ryzen 5 1600 Oc at 3.8ghz to a 1600AF oc to 4.1ghz to a ryzne 3600 that i tried to oc but that didnt like it so i kept it stock to now a ryzen 5800x and damn it does make a difference

@Alex-bm9nb Ай бұрын

Was looking for a video like this. Thank you. Very helpful.

@dynamichunter843 Ай бұрын

The way you made these charts was great, love the layout! Makes it really clear.

@k24skin 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for doing this X3D comparison video as a lot of us had built AM4 gaming rigs during the lockdown/GPU shortage period and thus need a cheap upgrade option without having to move up to the more expensive AM5 platform :)

@indonesiansasquatch4926 2 ай бұрын

Could you please start including Hunt Showdown in your benchmarks? It's extremely CPU-dependant due to DX11 and it's about to get an engine upgrade (DX12,FSR2.1.2) around April so tons of people will be interested in how that performs.

@faviann 2 ай бұрын

Adding so many comparisons really help me guide me throughout what i actually needed instead of guess. Amazing video guys and thanks

@hatchetman3662 2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for this video. I have been hoping you would do a video like this.

@twinjuke 2 ай бұрын

Another review from you, where the numbers are not just spit in front of us, but you showed context, analyzed situation and provided a great conclusion. Still love you Guys! Best HW channel ever.

@davidsanders890 2 ай бұрын

Really would have liked to see power draw and efficiency numbers for these processesors. Considering the vastly different specs with the same exact tdp, it would have been interesting to see the differences. Great video, nonetheless.

@seibertron500 2 ай бұрын

5700X3D is 20w less than the 5800X3D in a Blender workload iirc. gaming loads would be the same

@scottcondie1363 2 ай бұрын

This was a very well presented comparison. The inclusion of the 3600 gave some reference to existing systems and the am5 parts show the jump to a new platform. The highlighting of parts you were discussing helped with following along with the comparisons

@Tayken9127 Ай бұрын

Really appreciate you including the 3600 comparison, I'm still on that and was debating over upgrading. This comparison made me pull the trigger!

@djhillesq 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much HUB for making this video. I’ve been wanting to see this comparison since the 5700x3d release. The fact that you included the 3600 was the icing on the cake. Cheers guys!!

@BangHJL 2 ай бұрын

I have a R5 3600 and I know upgrading to any of the 5000X3D CPU is a no brainer, but unfortunately I'm one of the "lucky" few who has a B350 motherboard that doesn't support Ryzen 5000 (even with the latest BIOS update). So since I have to buy a new motherboard anyway, I finally pulled the trigger on AM5. I bought a R5 7600X + a B650 motherboard + 2x16GB DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 for about $480 total. I kinda overpaid for the motherboard (it has Gen 5 and Gen 4 NVMe slots, WiFi, Bluetooth, 4 RAM slots), but I don't really mind since I'm investing for the future. Had I went for a new AM4 motherboard and a 5000X3D combo (I can reuse my DDR4 RAM), I actually wouldn't save THAT much money anyway. For some reason, a R7 5700X3D is going for $280 where I live. And I'm pleased to know that R5 7600X has about the same performance as those X3D CPUs, plus I can upgrade in the future now! 👍👍👍

@Jusbale 2 ай бұрын

Which B350 mb do you have?

@Matti6950 2 ай бұрын

The good thing is, all this hype about cheap AM4 upgrades, means that someone who buy ryzen 5000x3d cannot do in short future a good upgrade path, they will need to buy am5+Zen6 with no upgrade path or wait a long long time (2026-2027) before AM6. That's long time to hunger. Now you have future proof motherboard (imo 370x series werent really, only since x570 we had beefy motherboards), and you step in with cheapest ryzen 7000 cpu, still as fast as am 5000x3d yet you can upgrade as far as 11950x3d (if the naming coninues to skip even ryzen generations (like 8000, 6000). I was hyped about the upgrade path but then realized, i'm to late in am4 to get anything from it. Plus motherboards of X670(e) are much stronger for future, and ryzen 7000 has really strong performance uplift for one generation, so even with the extra motherboard /ram cost it's sorta worth it. Since i waited 8 years for cpu, and i do tons of stuff on pc, i allowed myself to buy 7950x3d (wich is cheapest top end cpu launch yet for amd and it includes x3d wich is must for me).

@diysai 2 ай бұрын

I have a b450 motherboard and a 3060ti so I guess my 3600 is not limiting me enough to upgrade yet.

@n9s3nse10 2 ай бұрын

The asrock b650m pro rs offers gen5 nvme support and it's really cheap.

@Shieftain 2 ай бұрын

@@diysai I have a B450 and a 3060Ti and I upgraded from a 3600 to a non X3D 5700X back in 2022, and even then it made a difference. If you're targeting high refresh rates, an X3D chip is a no-brainer, but if your goal is 60FPS and you're fine with it dipping below that occasionally, the 3600 will do the job.

@markallison8108 2 ай бұрын

I was waiting for this review thanks 👍🏻

@nipa5961 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comparison! Very interesting results.

@JBrinx18 2 ай бұрын

Really glad I got the 5600x3d on a one day $156 sale

@user-yu1zj4vp1r 2 ай бұрын

What about CS2?

@MrSmitheroons 2 ай бұрын

Seeing which games did better on which CPU was kind of fascinating. I think this is one of the best "for science" benchmark videos you've put out lately, not just for buying advice. Seeing which games appeared to favor cache size, thread/core count, frequency, etc. in such an apples-to-apples comparison was really neat! I know the margins of difference were often small outside of "More VCache more better", but seeing a faster-clocked lower-core-count part beat the 5700X3d *most of the time* (but not all of the time!) really hammered home how little things make a difference when trying to squeeze out every inch of performance, and how you really can't win 'em all, any part choice will set you ahead in some games and behind in others. But still, trying to suss out the market and plan ahead makes building more exciting, IMO. Anyway, thanks for your dedication to robust testing and giving us interesting comparisons. I don't know what I'd do to understand the gaming market without this channel, almost nothing is as clear and to the point for what can be some esoteric performance discussions otherwise. Much appreciated!!

@HappyBeezerStudios 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that is pretty much the result to be expected. Some want fast cores, some want many cores, some really like the cache.

@billcranston3882 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the ACC benchmarks.

@SilverKnight16 2 ай бұрын

This was literally the kind of video I was looking for. I have a 5600X3D, and was curious how it stacked up to the other two releases in gaming. Thanks!

@chewbster 2 ай бұрын

you are really lucky to be able to buy that! The whole world wishes we got that where they live

@halfbelieving 2 ай бұрын

After 5 years i went from a 2600x to a 5600x3d and it was mind blowing how much better it is with an rx6700xt I got the 5600x3d for 130 bucks and i feel like i got a great deal.

@sitordan 2 ай бұрын

I was so waiting for a video like this from you guys. Thank you.

@neurofiber2406 2 ай бұрын

This was the video I needed. Thank you.

@Guwapo77 2 ай бұрын

You guys read my mind. I was recently looking for this very comparison a couple weeks ago.

@bryndaldwyre3099 2 ай бұрын

I went from the 3600 to the 5800X3D on the B450 platform and that was quite the jump. Then I added 16gb more ram for 32gb. Then went to the b550 and grabbed a 32gb kit of 3600mt cl16 ddr4 and again, it made quite a difference. Now my housemate has my r5 3600 with 32gb of 3200mt ram on the b450 mobo and a 2060 and he's chuffed as.

@ChristiaanRakowski 2 ай бұрын

Another great benchmark by Hardware UnboX3D.

@maxsmith108 2 ай бұрын

You are a mad scientist OP. Thanks. I also had a thought that you might do well to include the percentage differences between the x3d and the non-x3d models. I know you said them in the voice dialogue, but some people might also like to see the number on the graph itself. Cheers!

@chewbster 2 ай бұрын

and cost per frame

@stefanbloch3368 2 ай бұрын

Prima, toller Test. Genau das habe ich gebraucht. Danke. 👌👍

@stennan 2 ай бұрын

Very nice info! Is there any tuning one can do to the 5xxxX3D if traditional overclocking is locked down? I am wondering if the 5700X3D could claw back some of the 5800X3D performance by tuning the PBO, undervolting, or mild BLK overclocking. Just in case the 5700X3d isn't binned with "bad silicon", but rather a way to segment the X3D-parts to allow for better market coverage in a similar fashion as the 4080 Super (but with lower price +lower performance in AMD:s case).

@julfy_god 2 ай бұрын

there's buildzoid's(actually hardcore overclocking) video about that. basically overclocking gives little to no improvement

@fleurdewin7958 2 ай бұрын

Only doable in B550 and maybe B450 motherboards. X570 on the other hand are hopeless in BCLK overclocking, at 102Mhz BCLK, USB ports and SATA drives will get wonky . Overclocking thru PBO is locked, it won't work for X3D .

@Nelthalin 2 ай бұрын

bclk OC is hard on cheap boards. You need a bord with external clock gen to get high. I guess the 5700X3D are parts that did not meed the 5800X3D spec's so you probally wont get as high as on those. PBO does help not all boards support that for the X3D CPU's but i know MSI Does. That helpt with all core performance. Undervolting also raises all core boost clocks. Modern games do get some extra performance out of that. And offcourse Memory OC and higher IF clocks still help a bit but way less compared to the non X3D CPU's. Here is a little Stellaris benshmark i did: 5800X3D Stock 3600CL16 348 63w 4370MHz 5800X3D Tweaked 360 50w 4435-4480MHz Difference was 3.4% but at quite a bit lower power draw. Stellaris is not highly threaded to more modern games might show a bit more gain here. Tweaked setup was "Curve Optimizer -30 All cores + Undervolt VCORE&VSOC, 3733MHz 1:1:1 CL16 Tweaked timings and subtimings" Stock was 3600CL16 with only basic timing tweaked a bit not the subtimings.

@Merril_39 2 ай бұрын

Just use pbo tuner at -25, run a benchmark and see if it helps. If it doesn't just enjoy your cpu without modification.

@bkman64 2 ай бұрын

I got my 5700x3d to 4.2 with bclk 103.8 and 1900 IF stable. BCLK 104 forces the cpu to "lock down" Also on my board, all core PBO curve works but as soon as I try per core it breaks voltage.

@Fluskar 2 ай бұрын

the jump from 5800x3d to 7800x3d is some impressive stuff

@Physics072 2 ай бұрын

Nice Job on the review you are the first to do all three chips.

@serejamos3250 2 ай бұрын

That's what i was looking for, thx!

@beezle1976 2 ай бұрын

The AM4 platform sort of reminds me of AMD's long term use of the socket7 platform. Older platform, but supported long term with cpus that were still quite reasonable even in comparison to newer platforms. Coincidentally adding larger caches was something they utilized then too with k6-2+/k6-3/k6-3+ (along with 3rd level cache (with mobo cache becoming lv4)).

@chewbster 2 ай бұрын

i remember being 15 and eyeing the k6-III while drooling over the K7s

@HappyBeezerStudios 2 ай бұрын

To play devil's advocate, it reminds me of Intel's use of LGA775. They kept the platform for a long time and had a lot of changes throughout. I have a board here that can run a 2.8 GHz single core Pentium 4 or a 4.2+ GHz Core 2 Quad on the same platform. 4 times the cores, 12 times the cache, with a 50% clock and 60% IPC improvement. Rarely do we see a single platforms where the fastest CPU is an order of magnitude faster than the slowest. That is like going from a Ryzen 3 1200 to a Ryzen 9 5950X, except slightly more.

@beezle1976 2 ай бұрын

@@HappyBeezerStudios I dont completely disagree, but boards that support later s775 core2 based systems as well as s775 p4's are rare as hens teeth, whereas wide long-term support for socket 7 and am4 is the norm. I'm into a few alternative type OSes where s775 is the highest end platform and gpu support end at gf5 fx, so I've spent over a decade slowly but surely incrementally upgrading it whenever I can squeeze a few more % out. Its been a c2q 9650 @4.65ghz for many years, but mobos have changed, ram has changed, gpu has changed multiple times. All in an attempt to get the absolute best system possible for running Amithlon (sort of a hybrid emulator/AmigaOS3.9 running on bare metal type system where only the cpu is emulated). Long story short I've spent a lot of time with s775 over the years. Still hunting for a board with ago that supports later c2q boards, but I'm not holding my breath.

@HappyBeezerStudios 2 ай бұрын

@@beezle1976 P35 is my suggestion. Fully compatible with 45nm chips (including LGA771 Xeons), but also 200 FSB Pentium 4 (but only unofficially. it's a bit like the Tualatin on i815 situation, not officially supported, but generally compatible)

@raphi154farel5 2 ай бұрын

Some time in a far away future I will have a 4090 and gaming on 1080p of course. Then I will upgrade to a X3D CPU 😁

@SkylarMelo 2 ай бұрын

Love this video, thank you 🙏🏼

@Gav803 2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for this vid!

@CuttingEdgeRetro 2 ай бұрын

I just went from 3950X to 5800X3D this week(32GbC16+X570DarkHero+6900XT). In my limited testing its been 30-50% in most games. one in particular im playin a lot of atm is Starship Troopers. That went up around 60% in 1% lows. I was really debating if it was worth it. But sold my 3950x for $400 so the upgrade cost me $120 which was absolutely worth it.

@alive_omi 2 ай бұрын

6900XT is very well suited for 5x00x3d. Non-x3d wouldn't be enough to feed this GPU. So w/o changing the whole platform you couldn't achieve comparable uplift. 6900XT is one of the best examples where 5x00x3d shine.

@nonstickmeat_ssb 2 ай бұрын

$520 for a 5800X3D??

@alive_omi 2 ай бұрын

@@nonstickmeat_ssb AUD probably

@Physics072 2 ай бұрын

@@nonstickmeat_ssb Yea he used USA dollar sign so yes he is saying he got ripped off on a 5800x3d instead of $280.00 to $320 he paid $520 and is very happy to be ripped off.

@chibonchibon3967 2 ай бұрын

I wish there are 1440p and 4k comparison so we know that what cpu dont matter on what resolution

@vincentvega3093 2 ай бұрын

They all matter on their 1% lows compared to non X3D parts.

@KimBoKastekniv47 2 ай бұрын

I rather have 12 game average at 1080p than 6 game average across higher resolutions for a CPU test, these take a lot of time and effort to do.

@chy.0190 2 ай бұрын

They all matter when it comes to 0.1 and 1% lows. And matter even more for those choosing to lower settings when playing fps games.

@Alvin853 2 ай бұрын

The CPUs can simulate the same number of frames independent of resolution, so the numbers would be exactly the same unless the GPU causes slowdowns.

@headphonesz6527 2 ай бұрын

4k is entirely gpu bound unless you turn everything on ultra low

@wheatonrunner69 2 ай бұрын

This was literally the perfect video for me! Thanks for all the hard work and benchmarking of old hardware so that I know the best upgrade path the next time I visit a micro center

@colinhughessimracing2757 2 ай бұрын

Super grateful you put the Rysen 5 3600 on this graph 👍👍👍👍 Great video and saved me having to work anything out my end 👏 Ty for the hard work as always 🤜🤛

@QuantumS1ngularity 2 ай бұрын

I've beeon on 5800X3D for more than a year and a half now, basically right after your review where you showed how it decimated everything in ACC and i've been extremely happy with it. It was stuck in a B450 motherboard up until a month ago when i upgraded to X570 and incredibly, gained on average about 6% more performance. How and why? Well basically i gained 200MHz of boost clocks. Previously it ran at stable 4350MHz, despite the Liquid Freezer II 360mm keeping it well into the 59-62°C range. Now on the new board it stays solid on 4550MHz and it certainly was a nice surprise. AMD really struck gold with the X3D CPUs.

@chewbster 2 ай бұрын

i have a b350 and my VRMs don’t have a heatsink. Kinda worried to upgrade, ngl

@abraham9301 2 ай бұрын

@@chewbster the x3d cpus don't need much cooling even a wraith stock cooler works.

@QuantumS1ngularity 2 ай бұрын

@@abraham9301 Check GN's benchmarks. X3D CPUs absolutely need extensive cooling because of how temperature sensitive the L3 cache is. The 5800X3D in particular is a much hotter CPU than the regular 5800X. The best cooling solution for X3D CPUs really is an AIO.

@abraham9301 2 ай бұрын

@@QuantumS1ngularityI see I got a dark rock pro 4 on my 5800x3d no issues currently.

@Theworthsearcher 2 ай бұрын

Dear@@abraham9301, chewbster talks about VRM cooling, not CPU cooling. ;) But yes, the 5800X 3D uses less the VRM, than the 1800X or 2700X for example.

@Eihei 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the test! Unfortunately 5600X3D is not available in Poland, so I don't think I'll be switching from my 5600. I don't think that moving to 5700X3D or 5800X3D makes sense as 7800X3D can be often bought for only about 100$ more, and at that point I would rather just switch platforms.

@Eihei 2 ай бұрын

@@rustyclark2356 yeah, you can actually get very nice b650 that Steve recommended in his roundup last year for about 50$ cheaper than they were back then, at least in my country. I'm really starting to consider it, especially since DDR5 is much cheaper now as well.

@AlexHusTech 2 ай бұрын

Yep 7500F from Aliexpress for cheap too@@Eihei

@oskarniklas5061 2 ай бұрын

Unless you're planning on playing at 120+ FPS there's really no point in upgrading the 5600. I did, but only because in some games that was exactly the case, I was a couple fps off in CPU demanding titles. Though honestly, it's just better to save that money and put it into AM5, cause as you said, it's only a bit more money, with the added bonus of having a new platform with tons on upgrade potential along the way

@marcinkarpiuk7797 2 ай бұрын

@@oskarniklas5061main reason to upgrade to x3d is better 1% low, also helps with mmo like new world or wow battlegrounds for removing stuttering, bf2042 also works good on x3d

@Eihei 2 ай бұрын

@@oskarniklas5061 well, I'm definitely not upgrading any time soon, especially since I'm more bottlenecked by my RTX 3070 (and I use QHD monitor). I also unfortunately really enjoy how Raytracing looks, so I'm generally fucked.

@felipenachmanowicz9393 2 ай бұрын

I loved this video. And I know I'm a nag to ask, but could you do same tests for 1440p and 4k???

@mR_Reddexe 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for still considering the Ryzen 5 3600 for reference in your video because this would be from my potential upgrade path.

@EastyyBlogspot 2 ай бұрын

Tbh i am tempted to upgrade my 8086k to one of these as would save me money on memory as could use my current one and i do not run games in very high resolution

@samserious1337 2 ай бұрын

OC'ed? Whats your RAM config?

@EastyyBlogspot 2 ай бұрын

Nah just stock, 2 16gb sticks I think the speeds are 3200mhz

@samserious1337 2 ай бұрын

@@EastyyBlogspot Since you already have 32GB of RAM with acceptable speed, I would recommend OCing the 8086k to at least 5.0GHz to get a ~15% performance boost. This may result in higher temperatures since the chip has thermalpaste between the DIE and the IHS. I think you can squeeze at least a year out of this platform. Upgrading to a AM4 is not recommended, only when you already have a Board or CPU lying around.

@jeffsprague5325 2 ай бұрын

High resolution requires less cpu dave your money

@dal968 2 ай бұрын

I switched from 3600 to 5700X3D 2 days ago :)) Very nice update, also paired it with 32GB ram so i am fine 3-4 more years at least

@LtCatscratch 2 ай бұрын

What's your GPU ?

@bloodsupremking 2 ай бұрын

Same here just refresh my system went from 3600XT to 5800X3D and upgraded my memory from 16GB 3200mhz to 32GB 3600mhz probably gonna sit on this for same amount of time until full upgrade

@dal968 2 ай бұрын

@@LtCatscratch RX 6600

@roobloo4119 2 ай бұрын

@@dal968 That's next lol

@mnmx94 2 ай бұрын

Great comparison video and good choice of cpus that are being compared here. I picked up the 5800X3D when it dropped to around 270€ a few months ago, here in germany and apparently it was a pretty good choice, seeing your video. Thanks for always providing this high level of quality in your testing.

@brandonpayne1207 2 ай бұрын

I think that was a really nice summary of what core count, clock speed, memory speed(with am5) and large cache does for gaming. You had the whole spread of data nicely summed up. 👌

@ApexLodestar 2 ай бұрын

Do these X3D chips show any difference when not using flagship GPUs or are the differences only noticeable with flagship GPUs? I have a Ryzen 7 5800X paired with a Radeon RX 6800 XT. If I were to get an X3D CPU, will there be any noticeable difference in fps with the 6800XT?

@revanmj 2 ай бұрын

With 4070 Super and regular 5700X, Watch Dogs Legion with RTX does not exceed 100 FPS on 1080P, so my guess (It pains me that it is so hard to find info on which pairs of CPU/GPU you are likely to be limited by which of the two since CPUs are tested with 4090) is that on anything lower tier than 4080 and with most games you will be usually GPU limited (unless you lower the graphics settings).

@TrueThanny 2 ай бұрын

Depends on the resolution, refresh rate, and the game. You can find the answer easily enough by running the games you play and noting how often your GPU usage drops far below 100%. Make sure you also note the GPU clocks. You also shouldn't bother trying to render more frames than your refresh rate, as you'll do nothing but waste power and generate screen tearing.

@lewzealand4717 2 ай бұрын

It depends on your game. I moved from 5600 to 5800X3D recently and noticed improved framerates at 1440p using a 6800 XT in Hogwarts and Starfield but most improved are the frameTIMES (1% lows/framerate consistency) in both as well as in Minecraft at 32 chunks with shaders. Those are much appreciated and yes, all 3 are "broken" games when it comes to CPU use.

@chewbster 2 ай бұрын

start task manager. If your GPU chart (3D) is over 95% while you play, you’re gpu limited. If it’s under 90% you could use a faster cpu. I think people here underestimate their GPU bottlenecks and upgrade every generation. These comments are astounding to me

@alive_omi 2 ай бұрын

Great topic, upvoted to lift it higher in the comments section

@MrMeanh 2 ай бұрын

Got my 5800X3D about 16 months ago for ~$230 (~$290 including 25% VAT) in Sweden when a local store had a very good offer on them. I don't regret replacing my 5900x with the 5800X3D in my gaming system since most of the early access games I play really benefit from the v-cache.

@Jomenaa 2 ай бұрын

Steve I love you for including R5 3600 (my CPU)! Some of these is exactly my wet dream to put into my B450 Tomahawk MAX

@THRONIUS 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for including 5600X, I was debating between upgrading to 7600 or 5800X3d, decided in the favor of the latter as it is a drop in upgrade while I can recoup 1/3ish of the cost with sale of 5600X.

@RangerFPS 2 ай бұрын

Can you put CS2 benchmark as well? It benefits from 3D-V Cache heavily in Source 2

@tremelai 2 ай бұрын

I have seen a small but measurable improvement in fps when I disable SMT on my 5800x3d vs my 5800x. (at least in the titles I'm playing at the moment.) After some googleing around, the strongest hypothesis for this discrepancy is that the extra L3 afforded by X3d closes the CPU pipeline bubble issue to keep the ALU and FPU fed with data in a timely fashion, something that SMT is a tradeoff design feature to address keeping the CPU pipeline fed with data to avoid what is called pipeline bubbles at the expense of latency. Some other minor tech tubers have anecdotal testing on 7800x3d that show similar results as mine on other titles. My tests show the Linpack takes decent hit in performance with SMT disabled on a 5800x whereas on my 5800x3d the performance is identical. (The hypothesis is that the L3 cache is able to keep the pipeline properly fed.) On poorly optimized and light multi-threaded workloads, such as the multi treaded bench in CPU-Z, SMT still sees an advantage on both CPUs. Zen3 was the first AMD architecture to feature real "zero bubble" pipeline optimizations where Zen2, and prior, did not. This may explain why Intel's next CPU uarch does not feature SMT as other CPU architectures, ARM et al, are also featuring zero bubble pipeline and branch predictor advancements that address the issue of parallelism and pipeline bubbles more efficiently than SMT, which was originally designed to address both as a HW & OS scheduler hack of sorts.

@2intheampm512 2 ай бұрын

Very interesting post, thanks for this I enjoyed the read

@MultiZymethSK 2 ай бұрын

Would I need to disable SMT in bios for my 5800x3d, or would simply using something like process lasso be enough?

@krjal3038 2 ай бұрын

Great post! Gave me something to look into for my own system.

@krjal3038 2 ай бұрын

@@MultiZymethSKyou'd likely need to disable it for the full effect. Process lasso is useful but in this case it's a half-measure

@samuelrave 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for this video! Very interesting en good to watch for people wanting to give their AM4 platform another last good run

@JohnnyOrgan 2 ай бұрын

I just bagged the 5700X (non-3D) for £159 here in the UK. A wee upgrade on my 4 year old 2700(non X) Quite happy with that.

@GefilteFish. 2 ай бұрын

I went from a 2600x to that chip of yours...noticed a difference in muti tasking and video editing

@thefurmidablecatlucky3 2 ай бұрын

That is still a very capable CPU, enjoy your upgrade

@HappyBeezerStudios 2 ай бұрын

The 5700X is on my shortlist, but I will also test it on 125W just to see how well it does compared to a 5800X

@Hamborger-wd5jg Ай бұрын

I went from a 5700X to a 5700X3D. Seemed pointless to me at first, but i noticed the 1% lows skyrocketed. games like Forza are making good use of the cache and at one point on 1080p i saw my fps reach 165 without having to use DLSS. I am actually GPU bound now by my 4070 and kinda wish i had gotten a 7900 XT. I upgraded my school IT guy's rig and he is happy with the 5700X. it replaced his 3700X

@JohnnyOrgan Ай бұрын

@@Hamborger-wd5jg It is nice to know there's still another cheeky wee upgrade path left on this mobo and ram.

@user-vx9ch6rs1w 2 ай бұрын

I would love the same comparison but done with a 6800xt class graphic card, to understand if for a more affordable gpu that cpu power is needed or not

@topchris17 2 ай бұрын

I went from a 3700x to a 5600x3D paired with a 3070. Well worth it. Also, bios update was huge for performance as well.

@KristianHerdi 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for this one, made up my mind about sitting the Ryzen 7000 series out!

@middleclassthrash 2 ай бұрын

I understand that the player base for escape from Tarkov is pretty small, but we are extremely cpu limited. I really wish we could get included in cpu reviews, if not GPU reviews. 8(

@Simon_Denmark 2 ай бұрын

It would be really cool to see EFT in benchmarks. X3D is pretty huge in EFT right?

@ravioli-ravioli 2 ай бұрын

Cause they need to show you high frames to keep selling these cpu's, or just people don't like to see low numbers of fps :D

@kesamek8537 2 ай бұрын

Same situation for the millions of mmo players, cpu limit not gpu limit.

@Daxaka88 2 ай бұрын

Tarkov player base small ? No way man .The cheaters are infinite . pyurologie makes good X3D EFT benchmarks BTW

@middleclassthrash 2 ай бұрын

@Daxaka88 are they even close to this level, though? I don't think so anyway.

@JayzBeerz 2 ай бұрын

So the 5600X3d is a beast.

@OvalboreTech 2 ай бұрын

would love to see a 1600 and 1700x just as a hilarious no-new-board upgrade for those still on Zen1 :) thanks Steve!

@FatherDragonKal 2 ай бұрын

Perfect video showcasing the older and newer alternatives. As someone that went from the 3600 to a 5800X3D this is a great video to reinforce my decision

@SIW808 2 ай бұрын

Whoever does your B-roll deserves a raise.

@BalinThomas 2 ай бұрын

I rate this comment ;)

@technologicalelite8076 Ай бұрын

Fyi, the guy above me is who makes the HW Unboxed B-rolls.

@Enclosure_2k 2 ай бұрын

Hey. How about this cpus with a mid to low range gpu??

@kothemagica 2 ай бұрын

2:33

@WaterZer0 2 ай бұрын

bruh

@jurpo6 2 ай бұрын

the amount of people that dont understand why cpu's are benched with a 4090 is astounding

@danieloberhofer9035 2 ай бұрын

On the other hand - I'm amazed how far down I've had to scroll this time to find the first comment of this sort. And it's a nice one for a change. Seems like Steve including an explanation (again!) for why CPU testing is done with a high end GPU paid off.

@alive_omi 2 ай бұрын

@@jurpo6 The amount of people who don't understand that they won't get such a jump in performance with low and mid range GPUs is even more astounding.

@kreed11 2 ай бұрын

Currently running a Ryzen 5 3600 and an RTX 3060ti at 1080p and wanna make the switch to 1440p, so this was really useful. Thanks, Steve!

@EdDale44135 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video. The charts you shared were perfect. They focused on the areas of concern for people considering upgrading - which processor, how much performance, and what if I went AM5. I have a AM4 5600x and was thinking about dropping in one of these X3D chips for future proofing the platform. Now I know that it really isn’t a great idea.

@chewbster 2 ай бұрын

why not drop one in years later when they’re cheaper? The charts show it’s equivalent to a 7600 .. good but not great 😊

@gabrielvarela5 2 ай бұрын

I´m on the same boat, I won´t be spending more money on an old platform. My B450 motherboard is only PCI 3.0 with a 5600x, it works fine with my 4070 but a more powerful GPU would struggle. I´m better saving my money for AM5 with ryzen 8000 later this year.

@chewbster 2 ай бұрын

@@gabrielvarela5 looking forward to a video where they show a meaningful improvement over PCI3 to PCIE4 or 5

@CarlosCamposvc92 2 ай бұрын

Was Jedi Survivor with RT on or off? I’ve gotten averages of 150fps with my 5800X3D at 1440p DLSS Quality with a 3080.

@cm6gaming259 2 ай бұрын

It says 1080p Epic. That’s the tested settings. No DLSS.

@CarlosCamposvc92 2 ай бұрын

@@cm6gaming259 so how come my 3080 gets higher fps? Perhaps he's testing in Coruscant

@dhgdhgfhgfdgdhgdhgdfgh9108 2 ай бұрын

when will all ryzen get X3D natively ?

@simulify8726 2 ай бұрын

you also need hardware like that, not all ryzens have x3d design

@jonathans303 2 ай бұрын

Pretty much never, product segmentation

@spoorthyv 2 ай бұрын

I could see it becoming the mainstream option but for productivity prob not worth it for the price

@Dick_Valparaiso 2 ай бұрын

Probably never. Atm, adding V-cache means a reduction in clocks. It's all well and good for strictly gaming. But, for production purposes having the higher clocks is preferable. It also gives AMD a reason to sell more sku's and price the X3D variants at a premium. I'd love for every cpu to have V-cache and run >6ghz. In the forseeable future it's either or.

@IVIauricius 2 ай бұрын

It's ridiculous that I was able to go through so many processors on my ASUS X370 CH with plenty of performance gains from each upgrade. 1600X->2600X($80@MicroC)->3600X->5600X->5700X3D. I'm still using the original boot SSD and GPU: 960 EVO 250GB and GTX 1080. Upgrading to an RTX 4070 Super and this should still last me several more years. That X370 board has been an amazing decision!

@JamiesonA1987 2 ай бұрын

Oh man I literally went from a 3600X to a 5800X3D yesterday the day before this video came out. Crazy coincidence, thanks for doing my testing for me guys, you're the best. I got a XFX 6950XT tho not a 4090. This video was awesome, keep it up

@The_Noticer. 2 ай бұрын

No PBO2 tuning on the 5700X3D again :( Atleast one of the outlets should quickly point it out...right? Because the only difference is the clockspeeds.

@madscientist6843 2 ай бұрын

Steve always tests out of the box

@Ladioz 2 ай бұрын

You don't need to tune anything. my 5800X3D works well at stock settings out of the box............

@The_Noticer. 2 ай бұрын

@@madscientist6843 i know, but still a seperate piece could be nice...

@SyndicatesFollower 2 ай бұрын

You can use PBO2 tuner in windows to alter CO values, and with an external clockgen you can OC these chips as far as cooling and ~1.25v max load will take you. My 5800x3d is at 102 bclk with -25 CO all core and runs like a dream

@VeritronX 2 ай бұрын

You can't increase the clockspeeds on X3D ccd's using pbo2, and the power limits are already higher than the chip can reach at stock.

@shennyserena 2 ай бұрын

Thumbnail has the 5700x3d and 5800x3d in the wrong place

@dademr 2 ай бұрын

This is excellent work, usable info

@Blindside337 2 ай бұрын

This is probably the best example of AM4 cpus I have seen "with the very nice bonus up top featuring AM5 and the 3600 down below. Earned a sub and like from me 100% but is there any way to get a similar test on a couple lower end cpus to give people an idea what they could gain if running in the Nvidia rtx 60 series or 80? or perhaps 57/66/7600 AMD or 7700-7900 series AMD? Not of all but this one would be perfect for those deciding whether or not to get a 4090 and a little bit misleading to the uninformed with lesser cards thinking they needed to jump to am5 assuming they would get such a boost since even at 4080 level those gains would be cut drastically. Wasn't asking or requesting "hey you guys test all these cards although I guarantee it could help them greatly comparing video to video given the unique way you did your results, I have compared charts enough to know the differences but while I think this is an excellent test to show some friends I will have to attempt to add subtext explaining variables a little above their head. Those concerned over saving 50-100 usd are not typically 4090 owners. There are those who don't hesitate to buy a $5000 prebuild then those who stress for months over a $900 self build. This would be the perfect "Can AM4 bottleneck/hold up to a 4090" video .... but would be amazing to showcase the expected gains on cards such as "being detailed since the grammar/correction dictators are obviously in the thread"...test of cards such as the the 3080/3080ti/3090 or 4070 super or ti /4080 super as well as their 6800/6900xt/7700xt/7800xt/7900xt or xtx competition....Even the lower 3060/4060 5700xt/6600xt/7600 and 6700 series which all place similar. I love the channel and the way you have displayed this, if done on other gpus could be such a help for those on lesser systems "& not have anyone upset if they had a lesser card unknowingly jumping to am5/ddr5 and a 7800x3d expecting the same gain %.

@klanas40 2 ай бұрын

How about paired with a little weaker GPU like 7900xt or xtx?

@MrReivn 2 ай бұрын

7900xt(x) is not a weak gpu by any means. If you are upgrading from Ryzen3000-series or older, there is no point in going with anything less than 5700x3d or straight to AM5 with that GPU...

@Eihei 2 ай бұрын

You will still see performance improvements, it's a powerful gpu unless you want to turn on raytracing.

@Dr.WhetFarts 2 ай бұрын

@@MrReivn Yes 7900 series are weak compared to 4090 series.

@Ehren1337 2 ай бұрын

7900xtx aint weak what do you mean? lol its on par with 4090 in price per performance of rasterization.

@wipeyourbuttocks 2 ай бұрын

5600x3d is probably all you need if you have something like a 3060ti

@NivrA_Benchmark 2 ай бұрын

This is awesome thank you so much

@tomascarlsson961 2 ай бұрын

Extremely useful. Thank you! 🤓

@thesongoflunch 2 ай бұрын

I know i got my 5800x3d on sale but dayum 😅 these new chips are a steal

@beeadmeean 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this very informative comparison and especially for including 3600

@althemad 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for making this X3D mashup :)

@astronemir 2 ай бұрын

The extra cores can help with things like second monitor KZfaq video or voice chat, mods, etc. Of course also with multi threaded workloads in general. I don’t just game. But the question I had was 5800x vs 5700/5800 x3D , and this answers perfectly. Basically totally worth an upgrade..

@federicomasetti8809 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this video! I have a R7 5700X and I was wondering if upgrading to the 5800X3D can be considered anything acceptable, given I run my games (mostly driving simulators) at 1440p with a RTX 3070. It looks like it may be, especially if I want to keep this platform and upgrade to a newer GPU sometime next year (or later this year, depending on circumstances)

@mjbskydigital 2 ай бұрын

Great round up! I'm considering updating my Ryzen 5 3600 build to a Ryzen 7 5700X3D. My GPU is a MSi RX5700XT Gaming X and wondering if I will gain any performance? What do you think, Steve? Any benchmarks for this type of update? I'm sure alot of people will have similar thoughts. Cheers!

@Trancelistic 2 ай бұрын

Keep up the fun, thanks for sharing. I run a 7600 r5, who is like a 5800x3d in gaming(said this channel) But that 7600 somehow beats my old 5800x when it comes to DAW (music making) It loads my projects alot faster. Gaming wise, the 7600 has more fps and also the 1% so i'm glad I got it. (altho its really minor) I'm glad you help ppl on am4. Cu next time

@cm6gaming259 2 ай бұрын

So I saw a video on KZfaq yesterday showcasing the difference between the 5700x3D and 5800x3D. It was a very simple video but it was also very informative. When it was done I began to think why hasn’t either of the Steves from Gamers Nexus or Hardware Unboxed made a video comparing all of the “x3D” CPUs on the AM4 platform, and here it is. 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

@giorx5 2 ай бұрын

Nice job as usual Steve. What if someone has a Radeon 7900XT(X) GPU that has lower driver overhead though? Maybe the results will be different. Would you test 1-2 games and if so, make a full video with the same CPUs-games but a Radeon GPU?