America's Fallen Cities: Cincinnati

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Alexander Rotmensz

Alexander Rotmensz

Ай бұрын

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@moisesmaldonado9875
@moisesmaldonado9875 Ай бұрын
It is just beyond any reason how America destroyed itself and imploded from that bygone glory
@starventure
@starventure Ай бұрын
Cincinatti got bombed in the late 60s early 70s. Any city can come back from getting hit by an hbomb, but there is no surviving the n bomb.
@wordup897
@wordup897 Ай бұрын
Corrupt govt and corporations sold the nation out.
@adriancarroll685
@adriancarroll685 Ай бұрын
Well, as a native Detroiter I can definitely think of one compelling reason: racism
@akjdhajkdjhaghjkadh9804
@akjdhajkdjhaghjkadh9804 Ай бұрын
@@adriancarroll685 the car industry played a much bigger role
@wordup897
@wordup897 Ай бұрын
@@akjdhajkdjhaghjkadh9804 they've got to blame all their failures on whitey like the media and govt trained them to do.
@christopherbolling1140
@christopherbolling1140 Ай бұрын
As a native Cincinnatian who has lived in multiple 100yr old homes inside the city, this video is unfortunately massively oversimplified. I walk and bike everywhere in this city. Downtown is one of the fastest growing neighborhoods in the city and the population decline mentioned here reversed ten years ago. We recently passed a tax levy to upgrade rapid transit and are working actively to reconnect our vibrant downtown to one of the most beautiful urban parks in America along the Ohio River. Have too many cool old structures been lost and do I wish the subway had been built? Sure. But, it’s a wonderful place to live that has some of the most amazing architecture and housing stock in the country.
@shamrockshawtty
@shamrockshawtty 7 күн бұрын
Shhhhhhhhh.....we are supposed to say how backwoods and weird Ohio is so people stay away
@neilboulton9813
@neilboulton9813 Ай бұрын
I often weep at what has been lost on our great Victorian cities in the UK, as volumes have been written about it and an photographer called Francis Frith recorded much of it. Although urban planning was largely responsible we at least have an excuse of extensive World War 2 bombing. I struggle to explain how America without this reason to undertake these destructive programmes can really justify it
@sergpie
@sergpie Ай бұрын
It was the confusion of convenience being some sort of freedom, and that nothing, not even entire neighborhoods, churches, and grand palaces, should stand against it. So we demolished, so that we could conveniently commute. That, and the exponential rise in speculation on property, saw to a vast and still ongoing campaign of demolition and throw-away mentality.
@mickeygraeme2201
@mickeygraeme2201 Ай бұрын
Everyone who used to live in slums near cinci union station now has a house on a half acre lot in the suburbs with a good school system. So yeah some apartment buildings that no one wants to live in were torn down but everyone who lived there generally improved their amenities.
@wordup897
@wordup897 Ай бұрын
The corporate model requires perpetual "growth", hence planned obsolescenceahd disposable everything ushered in by the propagandists like Ed Bernays. Humans are gullible and the parasites that run the world prey on that weakness.
@neilboulton9813
@neilboulton9813 Ай бұрын
​@@mickeygraeme2201Whilst some of that is true and was the case in the UK. I am afraid the great civic buildings including librarys and Universities and commerce was largely replaced with ugly concrete and glass and only largely used 9-5, and this was definately not an improvement. Before you say high maintenance costs most of these building were very well constructed and even if there a slightly higher cost most prople would prefer the interior and exterior aesthetic to have survived.
@kyleelsbernd7566
@kyleelsbernd7566 Ай бұрын
Great post. People say the US has no history, bullocks. All these industrial age Victorian city centers span the Anglosphere. I visited Cincinnati last year and loved it as I know architecture. Incredible river towns and cities throughout the Midwest
@Cangluoak
@Cangluoak Ай бұрын
it hurts seeing those beautiful old building lost forever.
@CheeseBae
@CheeseBae Ай бұрын
Cincinnatian here. We still have quite a lot of historic buildings left in Over-the-Rhine. The 20th Century Modernists tried to bulldoze it many times, but luckily they failed each time.
@CrossOfBayonne
@CrossOfBayonne 25 күн бұрын
And also railroad history, The B&O and New York Central went to union station and there was the Cincinnati lineup
@gracerolman9028
@gracerolman9028 20 күн бұрын
Also, I would object to the claim that Cincinnati is boring. I’ve been in Cincinnati for almost a decade now, and it’s become my home. From places like Findlay Market to Hyde Park Square where you can see the history living in real time, there’s also a rich social climate in local breweries and a great pride in Cincinnati’s professional sports teams regardless of how good they are. I’d argue that as a midwestern metropolis, Cincinnati is one of the most interesting and fun midwest cities with endless activities and endless neighborhoods to see. Everyone who lives here identifies themself from what neighborhood inside of Cincinnati they’re from - whether that’s the West Side, Eastgate, Hyde Park, Oakley, etc. and it strikes up such amazing conversations between individuals. If only you spread your search up into Hyde Park and Oakley, you’d find that there are so many untouched historical buildings still standing - especially homes. Cincinnati has respected and loves its historical roots, but it has also failed in many aspects in gerrymandering and wiping out African American communities in order to building our modern day skyline. Wish there was a better analysis on this video as a whole.
@yaboy7120
@yaboy7120 16 күн бұрын
thats the area of cincinatti im looking into :)
@Anatolpinist
@Anatolpinist 12 күн бұрын
Problem is OTR is a diverse area.
@whynow_whynot1200
@whynow_whynot1200 Ай бұрын
Your american fallen cities series is amazing!
@michaelwatson113
@michaelwatson113 16 күн бұрын
We need a balanced view.
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 Ай бұрын
Compared to what other cities like St. Louis, Kansas City, and Detroit suffered, I think Cincinnati still walking out of it with some of their heritage still in tact is a lot more hopeful of a fate than most other American cities.
@Rapture582
@Rapture582 Ай бұрын
Are you Kidding? At least Detroit, Kansas city and STL are still recognizable, have their cores intact. Cincinnati is like a totally different city.
@r.pres.4121
@r.pres.4121 Ай бұрын
St Louis has very little left thanks to urban renewal, middle class flight, racial tensions, and a stagnant economy.
@diodelvino3048
@diodelvino3048 Ай бұрын
@@Rapture582 Riiight, the same Detroti and STL that have a declining population and severe amounts of abandoned homes. Unlike those places Cinncinati actually gained population in the past few years.
@Rapture582
@Rapture582 Ай бұрын
@@diodelvino3048 Detroit's core is still recognizable and revitalized. Current population gains has nothing to do with how much Cincinnati has lost. There's no way Cincinnati somehow has more "heritage" in tact proportionally than Detroit or STL.
@diodelvino3048
@diodelvino3048 Ай бұрын
@@Rapture582 Population gains has EVERYTHING to do with it. you just dont want to believe it since that doesnt match with your beliefs. Thats your own problem
@pux0rb
@pux0rb Ай бұрын
Absolutely heartbreaking. Its nice to see that there is an effort to repair what was broken, but it will never be the same.
@c0rnichon
@c0rnichon Ай бұрын
It's baffling how people in the past looked at the historic city centers and said "Nah, let's bulldoze this." And then they flock to Europe on Vacation to enjoy all these historic towns.
@lisasmith5422
@lisasmith5422 Ай бұрын
​@@c0rnichon this architectural demoralization was/is by design & most of the people certainly didn't want it to go this way - but, of course, it's just the American Fantasy that ' most ' of the people will have their say & their way - in reality - a very small percentage are in charge
@elliotwilliams7421
@elliotwilliams7421 Ай бұрын
What effort to repair
@ramencurry6672
@ramencurry6672 Ай бұрын
It will improve but not until after 2100
@hakeemsd70m
@hakeemsd70m 28 күн бұрын
This was all done by design. Kenyon Barr. It's heartbreaking what they did to my hometown.
@johnd.2114
@johnd.2114 Ай бұрын
As poor of a reputation as many large midwest cities have, I find they have considerably more interesting heritage and history than many large cities in the west or sunbelt, which are just downright boring and devoid of culture.
@offan-
@offan- Ай бұрын
the difference between the cities that were built before cars and after cars is incredible. once walkability was no longer important everything changed
@ChatGPT1111
@ChatGPT1111 Ай бұрын
You need to check out Charleston SC, Savannah GA, San Antonio TX, Key West FL, St. Augustine FL (oldest city in US), Sedona AZ, Pueblo/Taos NM and Santa Fe NM.
@johnd.2114
@johnd.2114 Ай бұрын
@ChatGPT1111 those examples all still kind of reflect my point as they're either old cities or smaller tourism/recreation focused towns. Sunbelt generally refers to more modern developments in sprawling, urban metros like Dallas, Atlanta, or Phoenix.
@ChatGPT1111
@ChatGPT1111 Ай бұрын
@@johnd.2114 if you're only interested in high population cities, the south did not have any back then. For example, the population of Phoenix in 1890 was 35,000. If the north had not destroyed the major cities of the south to where they had to start over, it might've been different, but in any event the north had a 100-200 year head start.
@ruedigernassauer
@ruedigernassauer Ай бұрын
German here: The huge fountain shown is the Tyler Davidson Fountain. It was crafted by two Bavarians as part of the "beautiful city movement" that came up right before the emergence of private car ownership. That fountain now stands a little relocated from its original site. For more details on that look up the entry in Wikipedia. Probably because of this landmark fountain Cincinnati is celebrating each year a Bavarian "Oktoberfest".
@ritchirodenbach8972
@ritchirodenbach8972 Ай бұрын
Hast du nichts besseres zu tun?
@ChatGPT1111
@ChatGPT1111 Ай бұрын
Don't listen to the rude guy Ruedi
@ruedigernassauer
@ruedigernassauer Ай бұрын
@@ChatGPT1111 No problem, I could in reverse call HIM if HE has nothing better to do.
@slomo4672
@slomo4672 28 күн бұрын
There are many German immigrants there and that's why they celebrate Oktoberfest.
@arizonaarmadillo5829
@arizonaarmadillo5829 15 күн бұрын
@@ritchirodenbach8972 Schweinhund.
@aramondehasashi3324
@aramondehasashi3324 Ай бұрын
I love seeing the old architecture in this series but also really pains me when you show what is there now.
@mariusfacktor3597
@mariusfacktor3597 Ай бұрын
Truly unimaginable. The folks who work in those industrial warehouses between seas of parking lots have literally no idea that a beautiful integrated dense and lively downtown once stood there. It's a lost civilization that built their society in a much better way than we build ours.
@MrStevan88
@MrStevan88 Ай бұрын
I live in Over the Rhine. While yes a lot of destruction was done to the city to focus on highways and parking, the city itself is still in very good shape and much of the urban areas have been revitalized (gentrified) with lots of work still being done (new builds and rehabbing existing buildings). City is very much so on the up compared to what it went through from 1950-2000 with everyone moving to the burbs
@underratedbub
@underratedbub Ай бұрын
It's our duty to leave our country beautiful and habitable for our children!
@TomisaLami
@TomisaLami Ай бұрын
I’ve lived in New York, San Francisco, Oakland, Philadelphia, Wilmington Delaware, and Cincinnati And even though Cincinnati isn’t like the most exciting place, it might be my favorite next to Oakland Like I said, I wouldn’t necessarily call it exciting but it is far from boring. There is always something cool to do. And one of the things about Cincinnati that seems to go to places and not be surrounded You can go to popular areas and still have your little spot and some sort of privacy. Most cities have popular spots, but they’re always packed.
@taurusmt5
@taurusmt5 17 күн бұрын
You have to be insane to like Oakland
@TomisaLami
@TomisaLami 17 күн бұрын
@@taurusmt5 why do you say that?
@taurusmt5
@taurusmt5 16 күн бұрын
@@TomisaLamidrugs, crime, etc
@TomisaLami
@TomisaLami 16 күн бұрын
@@taurusmt5 sorry to break to you kid but that's like the entire United States. Actually the worst I ever saw for drugs where are the small towns in Texas and Missouri. It was actually not that bad and Oakland on top of that you have the great weather the great scenery all the cool stuff and all the cool people it really is an awesome place to live.
@taurusmt5
@taurusmt5 16 күн бұрын
@@TomisaLami kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q6d2Ztphzsell5s.htmlsi=-PBgNG-WoaN1_znv Oakland has been having many problems for decades kid. The drug issues in rural US is way different than in the bay area
@umzalas7960
@umzalas7960 Ай бұрын
This is my favorite series on KZfaq by far! Keep up the
@denisehorner8448
@denisehorner8448 Ай бұрын
good work?
@birdwife589
@birdwife589 Ай бұрын
i believe that people in the newer generations have an appreciation for what was lost. hopefully as we get older we will start to see it being rebuilt.
@elliotwilliams7421
@elliotwilliams7421 Ай бұрын
Why do you sound like a MAGA supporter
@birdwife589
@birdwife589 Ай бұрын
@@elliotwilliams7421 ?
@pjflynn220
@pjflynn220 Ай бұрын
As a young historic architecture enthusiast and a traditional human-oriented city fanatic I agree. The car-centric design will end with my generation.
@elliotwilliams7421
@elliotwilliams7421 Ай бұрын
@pjflynn220 this is nothing to do with human oriented cities, its a corporate dream that doesn't consider humans at all.
@pjflynn220
@pjflynn220 Ай бұрын
@@elliotwilliams7421 dumbass its not a corporate dream. its my dream. to have beautiful, architecturally relevant, and human oriented design (AKA traditional urban design that has been used for millennia). I am very left leaning on many issues, this is not a partisan issue. His comment was not politically oriented in one way or another you just seem to be delusional lol
@francoisespinoza7047
@francoisespinoza7047 Ай бұрын
Nice work and thanks for sharing it. Cincinnati has many architectural jewels, I used to live there a few months as a former P&G employee and it was always a pleasant surprise to spot them. All the comments left are a good testimony on how much this heritage is valued, I also want to mention the John A. Roebling Suspension Bridge(formerly the Cincinnati-Covington Bridge) is a suspension bridge that spans the Ohio River between Cincinnati, Ohio, and Covington, Kentucky. When opened on 1866, it was the longest suspension bridge in the world until 1883. Impressive and still there. It looks majestic on foggy days/nights.
@craigf3277
@craigf3277 Ай бұрын
Population in 2024: ~329,303 Population in 2019: ~313,986
@marcelmoulin3335
@marcelmoulin3335 Ай бұрын
Alexander, once again, thank you for a highly informative video. You successfully highlight the possibilities that these former glorious cities have to rebound. Your mission is invaluable and encouraging.
@Andrea-lj4jg
@Andrea-lj4jg Ай бұрын
One of the best videos about urbanism I've ever seen. Nothing explains better than juxtaposition of old and new photos and maps how much of our cities have been destroyed by "urban renewal". Keep up the good work!
@DragonDinos70
@DragonDinos70 Ай бұрын
I am French, and in Europe we attach great importance to preserving our cities, and when I see that, I tell myself that it is the right thing to do. I'm shocked to see how beautiful American cities used to be, and how it was all torn down for highways or square concrete shoeboxes. The image of the station is revealing, it is a vile, monstrous waste... I hope that one day, the West will have the means to restore our cities to the aspects of our greatest times, erasing the ravages of the decadent thoughts of the post-war period, which today gave birth to wokism. It's high time to return to the forgotten classics from before 1945.
@starventure
@starventure Ай бұрын
Are you joking? Paris is dying just the same way that Cincinnati did.
@maxisussex
@maxisussex Ай бұрын
@@starventure Huh? Paris has some issues but it is certainly not dying, it is a thriving city. History, culture, fine dining, lovely parks and rivers and it is a top international tourist destination, receiving millions more visitors than the highest ranked American entry. Not sure how that compares to the ugly, desolate wastelands American cities mostly are.
@DragonDinos70
@DragonDinos70 Ай бұрын
@@starventure You haven't understood what I said, it's the whole West that is losing its face, it goes well beyond Cincinnati or Paris
@bycuritiba
@bycuritiba Ай бұрын
"wokeism" didn't cause this, and today conservatives are the ones who want to keep highways and suburbs.
@ojsobels
@ojsobels Ай бұрын
What exactly does wokism have to do with this?
@DanYellow3000
@DanYellow3000 Ай бұрын
I know Cincinnati is not what it used to be but I was also pleasantly surprised by how walkable and bikeable Cincinnati was compared to many other small cities I been to. I was able to easily walk, run and bike from Northern Kentucky/Covington to Cincinnati and be able to walk, run, bike for quite a bit. Mount Adams was especially really nice and a beautiful walk. I was also really impressed with a lot of the older architecture in Cincinnati. Out of all the other cities from this series, I think Cincinnati has the most potential to turn things around.
@DeeRuss
@DeeRuss Ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼 love history like this! They don’t teach us this in school
@-OAK-
@-OAK- Ай бұрын
You should do OKC, half of the downtown was destroyed and removed due to a architect “I.M PEI” he wanted to reshaped the skyline, but after tearing down a ton of buildings something happened that made him not do it, so they never rebuilt those buildings and you can clearly see that half the city seems to be erased and replaced with gardens and parks in the modern day. Looking at OKC in the 1960s compared to now would make you think that it lost population, it didn’t it’s more than double it’s population in the 1960s but after those buildings were destroyed, they were never rebuilt. Making the city seem sized down It had some awesome looking buildings that were demolished, like the biltmore hotel, and the Baum building.
@spencer4732
@spencer4732 Ай бұрын
really appreciate this series for documenting the detrimental effects of urban renewal on our greatest American cities
@mattwoolsey2758
@mattwoolsey2758 Ай бұрын
What do you mean by the detrimental effects of urban renewal? Our cities have seen detrimental effects of suburban sprawl, but urban renewal will be what saves them, as it already has saved them to a degree.
@Miyelsh
@Miyelsh Ай бұрын
I live in columbus, and it seems to have a different story than Cincinnati. Most of the urban highways are below grade or along rail lines and rivers, so not as much was destroyed to build them. I live in Southern Orchards, near German Village in the Southside, and it is very well preserved. My house was build in 1914 and I can walk or bike just about anywhere. It doesn't seem like as much was destroyed outside of downtown, compared to Cincinnati.
@diodelvino3048
@diodelvino3048 Ай бұрын
Plus Cbus didnt die like the other C's. Its great to see how much progress is being made in the city
@bengriffin9830
@bengriffin9830 Ай бұрын
One interesting thing about Cincy is that, because of the hilly topography, there are a lot of old walkable mini town centers in the other neighborhoods. This video focused on the urban core and the furthest-flung suburbs, but there’s a lot of preserved walkability in other parts of the city, fortunately.
@ashtonlambert7673
@ashtonlambert7673 Ай бұрын
Atlanta is another one. Completely unrecognizable. Once an old southern city in a forest is now a mess of buildings and sprawling car dependent suburbs.
@ashtonlambert7673
@ashtonlambert7673 Ай бұрын
You can see remnants of old Atlanta on broad street, parts of Forsyth, and Inman and Candler park.
@diodelvino3048
@diodelvino3048 Ай бұрын
Most Americans dont care about cities being sprawl and suburbs as long as it provides, and Atlanta has been providing. What it "once was" was a much higher crime rate anyways.
@kaihsiangju
@kaihsiangju Ай бұрын
It's boring, but the economy is fairly well, and the population increases. Downside is that the living cost is so pretty high
@sulevisydanmaa9981
@sulevisydanmaa9981 26 күн бұрын
HOTLANTA burned down a looong time ago ..
@sulevisydanmaa9981
@sulevisydanmaa9981 26 күн бұрын
A corporate Stonehenge is fireproof ...
@RevisitingHistoryChannel
@RevisitingHistoryChannel 28 күн бұрын
Great video !
@johnmortison5763
@johnmortison5763 27 күн бұрын
Interesting video. I attended the University of Cincinnati in the 50s. Cincinnati was a somewhat rundown river town then. The riverfront was in decay and upper Vine St was an area that you didn't want to go. I am glad to see those areas redeveloped and a lot of the old ugly buildings removed. Your point that what replaced them may not be the best that could be had is probably valid. I'm glad that Union Station is still there. I have fond memories of train travel in and out of that beautiful building.
@hewhowatchesthewatcher8711
@hewhowatchesthewatcher8711 Ай бұрын
If Cincinnati fully built that subway in the past, perhaps it would be a different city.
@katyoutnabout5943
@katyoutnabout5943 Ай бұрын
amazing video. subbed ❤️
@POLARTTYRTM
@POLARTTYRTM 19 күн бұрын
This hurts... I used to restore old pictures of our old capital, Rio de Janeiro, and I couldn't do it anymore. It was heartbreaking and too depressing to see what has been lost and worse.... and it all got replaced with.
@user-tq2og9cw7q
@user-tq2og9cw7q Ай бұрын
I will never travel to this citys, but watching your channel is a joy, you are a great teacher.
@zafarafay
@zafarafay Ай бұрын
Amazing content brother!
@FailsafeZero
@FailsafeZero Ай бұрын
I look forward to your Kansas City video. I lived there for a couple of years and it seemed to me you could see the fossils of some ambitious urban planning here and there.
@sulevisydanmaa9981
@sulevisydanmaa9981 26 күн бұрын
@FailsafeZero WENT TO 18TH & VINE July,86. Was a near ghetto. Just looked up the famous inters3ction from Maps : a miracle has happened : its clean & ...decent. Listen the song PINEY BROWN BLUES by BJT (=Big Joe Turner), so you ll reach its historicity in 30s jazz. Piney was a bartender legend in the joint where Basie, McShann, Bird and many others started. MARY LOU WILLIAMS, voc & p,
@fischman26-China
@fischman26-China Ай бұрын
In the 60s and 70s old time neighborhoods in Cincinnati with fantastic architecture were leveled and high rise low income housing replaced them only to be torn down later because of crime and maintenance issues. When inner city develops and raises real estate values, the inhabitants are economically forced to leave, moving their problems further out into the city and suburbs, where crime and decay increase. It's an endless cycle.
@user-Jamie218
@user-Jamie218 Ай бұрын
that recessed highway near the riverfront is a perfect place for a deck park
@blackpanda7298
@blackpanda7298 Ай бұрын
I still think Cincinnati is a great city. It’s charming when you’re passing through on the I-75.
@BillMorse-jr2ou
@BillMorse-jr2ou Ай бұрын
yeah, that’s the problem (smile)
@DinoCon
@DinoCon Ай бұрын
That montage filled me with so much anger and hatred, it brought tears.
@bloodyfingers1
@bloodyfingers1 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video and series. FYI, 4:42 is Baltimore's Peabody Library.
@alexanderrotmensz
@alexanderrotmensz Ай бұрын
Noooo really? It took me so long to find what I thought was a high quality image of the floor of the Cincinnati library. The relief I had in finding that photo, and all for nothing :/ My apologies!
@bloodyfingers1
@bloodyfingers1 Ай бұрын
@@alexanderrotmensz Yeah I live nearby and verified on the library website, but no worries! Its amazing that you found as many photos as you did.
@theshireling
@theshireling Ай бұрын
Ah my hometown. Even though I've seen these photos many times, it always shocks me to see the overhead shot of the urban basin before freeways. Such a beautiful, dense city to rival those in Europe destroyed in the name of 'progress'.
@dmitripogosian5084
@dmitripogosian5084 27 күн бұрын
It is not in the name of progress, it is deindustrialization and loss of significance
@aaronsmith9209
@aaronsmith9209 Ай бұрын
How was this possible? European and Japanese cities were literally destroyed in WW2 and were built back better then this. We lost a lot of beautiful architecture in Britain but thankfully only a small number of cities (Mainly Leeds, Glasgow and Coventry) built urban motorways, most are very walkable still. London and other cities saw fierce protests against motorways so thankfully plans were abandoned. As the end of the Planets of the Apes puts it, "you maniacs!, you blew it up!"
@elconquistador98
@elconquistador98 20 күн бұрын
When “urban renewal” started, the black neighborhood of West End was leveled. That was the beginning of the end.
@TheDutchMitchell
@TheDutchMitchell Ай бұрын
this is so depressing! I hope someone can play this video at their city hall, force every legislator to watch this. Perhaps some good will come out of it..
@wordup897
@wordup897 Ай бұрын
You can't fix a problem using the same logic that created it.
@reidr7288
@reidr7288 Ай бұрын
The NIMBYs in my city prevented it from falling.
@tuckerchisholm9646
@tuckerchisholm9646 Ай бұрын
Boom exactly
@TenOrbital
@TenOrbital Ай бұрын
Unbelievable.
@elorani1714
@elorani1714 Ай бұрын
Thank you for creating these. If the material is there, it would be interesting to see how this dynamic affected smaller cities too, like Gary, Indiana or Rochester, New York. Places that used to be small manufacturing centers, but never really recovered. Another option is looking at cities that have been so radically transformed by post-war development that in a sense, the 'old' form of the city has fallen. Like, how relevant is the pre-WWII downtown areas of LA or Houston or Dallas? Sure, these places haven't 'fallen' in the same way, but it could still be interesting to see how much of the old parts of the city were lost.
@alexanderrotmensz
@alexanderrotmensz Ай бұрын
Great ideas!
@WDWCentral
@WDWCentral Ай бұрын
Architecture Student here: Those back streets provide car access and garbage collection to those houses, with this alleys the architects create an inviting front facade without the interference of cars, this is also down in other New Urbanist communities around the US
@dmnddog7417
@dmnddog7417 Ай бұрын
Yes, but it seemed like there was quite a bit of space given to those "back streets." They are not as narrow as Chicago's back alleys, for example.
@richardcypherrahl
@richardcypherrahl Ай бұрын
That doesn't quite fit with the carefully constructed narrative, so it's not a surprise that it was overlooked.
@WDWCentral
@WDWCentral Ай бұрын
@@richardcypherrahl Nah…Technical stuff is hard to understand
@robe4314
@robe4314 21 күн бұрын
I just discovered this channel and it’s incredible, but holy crap it makes me sad. Please do Indianapolis!
@sissitop1505
@sissitop1505 Ай бұрын
In the United States there weren`t the so called 2 WW`s in that way like in Europe. But there was a silent war against the citiziens and their heritage. The so called "burnings and earthquakes", the so called "improvements and innovations" were horrible and destructive for the whole lands/states. It was planned and it was executed by the same people, who financed the war overseas in Europe and elsewhere. It`s important in my opinion that humans learn to distinguish between the executor and the financier for the executor. Great summary with great impressions of a formely great city on the earth.Greetings from Germany
@tn18977
@tn18977 Ай бұрын
It's the small hats
@Samtell
@Samtell Ай бұрын
FYI 4:41 is the Peabody Library in Baltimore.
@FalconsEye58094
@FalconsEye58094 Ай бұрын
to think if these survived you may not even care to go to Europe for vacation, various US cities would be just as gorgeous
@Tobi-ln9xr
@Tobi-ln9xr Ай бұрын
Not really. Europe has cities which developed over 1000 years with several different architectural epochs.
@juliaesposito7359
@juliaesposito7359 27 күн бұрын
Very interesting video thank you
@joygeegemini9241
@joygeegemini9241 Ай бұрын
Grew up in Cincinnati & been living in Louisville for 24 years. Louisville has the same story in Cincinnati. Everything that happens in Cincinnati will eventually happen in Louisville.
@FailsafeZero
@FailsafeZero Ай бұрын
It really is amazing the effect the architecture and street layout has on culture.
@hordeman8933
@hordeman8933 Ай бұрын
It's sad how every major US city looked like London less than 100 years ago. What World War 2 did to numerous cities in Europe, Americans did themselves, without a single air raid.
@tuckerchisholm9646
@tuckerchisholm9646 Ай бұрын
All of the firebombings and destruction of US cities were domestic. Riots all theoughout the 69s that burned hundreds of blocks in cities all across the country, never to be rebuilt. “White flight” happened bc the cities were being literally torn down, looted, and destroyed
@Fka995
@Fka995 20 күн бұрын
Good video. I'd love for you to go deeper into the reasons behind choosing these outcomes rather than livable, walkable urban areas and suburbs. What happened?
@thomasmacdonough288
@thomasmacdonough288 Ай бұрын
Have you ever read into Ogdensburg NY? In my opinion it is the most egregious fallen city in the US. Your last video on Buffalo, it is up northeast of it on the St Lawrence. It is a much smaller city, but unlike its larger contemporaries, its bustling downtown district was never rebuilt after its demise for "urban revitalization". I kid you not when I say its downtown district is just an empty multi-block parking lot. I think you may enjoy looking into it, even if it is not a big enough place to warrant a video.
@lisasmith5422
@lisasmith5422 Ай бұрын
it's a sweet dream to rebuild what was destroyed - and I hope it comes true - but, is it realistic ? the materials - granite, marble, excellent wood etc - costs are exorbitant & then, there is the challenge of finding architects & craftmen able & willing to build such magnificent structures - let's face it, the way things are now - people aren't even able/willing to build residential houses / housing properly - materials & labor are just in a different stratosphere as far as costs now & the people who built these buildings had a deep sense of work ethics & pride - our current demographics just don't & that's just a fact - it's not going in a good direction either - it's so heartbreaking - in literally one lifetime - we've gone from wonderful to worthless 😔
@dmitripogosian5084
@dmitripogosian5084 27 күн бұрын
That what it means getting poorer, as a society - you cannot afford what you could before
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 19 күн бұрын
And Western Civilization crumbles
@matethiustransport1374
@matethiustransport1374 Күн бұрын
The suburban sprawl of Cincinnati spreads almost to Dayton, and it's creeping up 71 towards Columbus now. I've lived in the Cincy/Dayton area for almost 30 years, and once my youngest is self sufficient, I'm retiring to New Mexico somewhere between Albuquerque and Colorado
@lupitamercado3675
@lupitamercado3675 Ай бұрын
Would love to see a series of revived cities !
@cavius8784
@cavius8784 Ай бұрын
When a city is changed from being pedestrian oriented to car oriented, it becomes a dead environment.
@jonw999999
@jonw999999 Ай бұрын
Great video and series. So sad what was lost. Curious why the existing Baltimore George Peabody library is shown here with the demolished Cincinnati library? Its a similar design but comes across as being a lost Cincinnati building.
@Abcxyzabcfhejfng
@Abcxyzabcfhejfng Ай бұрын
This is amazing and sad. Can you do Detroit next? These are great videos.
@charlieduross1940
@charlieduross1940 Ай бұрын
Do Dayton, Ohio next!
@silla.1902
@silla.1902 Ай бұрын
I've been watching this America's Fallen Cities series of yours and they look more depressing than most cemeteries. Is there an American city that is a good example of modernity + preservation? Hello from South America!
@wordup897
@wordup897 Ай бұрын
I find cemeteries peaceful and beautiful. Whatever's after this, even if nothing, has got to be better than this manmade hellhole.
@icetredotnet6473
@icetredotnet6473 Ай бұрын
That Library was beautiful. Wow.
@Noah-jx8qw
@Noah-jx8qw Ай бұрын
Great video! It’s so important that we understand our history so we can rebuild it.
@MBT06
@MBT06 Ай бұрын
I think you need to raise your mic volume. It is very hard to hear you, even on max volume.
@jatigre1
@jatigre1 Ай бұрын
As much as we'd like to hang on to those old buildings, a lot of them were not up to modern fire safety standards, so it was probably cheaper to tear it down and build new ones. And even the new ones now sit empty.
@aegisofhonor
@aegisofhonor Ай бұрын
It sort of looks like St. Louis, I'm shocked so few people compare the two cities, they are so similar in so many ways.
@MonsieurMoustachio
@MonsieurMoustachio Ай бұрын
You can for sure see the german influence in these old pictures
@Nyalcoholic
@Nyalcoholic 26 күн бұрын
Can you do a video on Binghamton/Endicott? I live here and we have had a saddening downfall since the 1900's
@w3bgrl
@w3bgrl Ай бұрын
While I agree to a degree, and would love to have seen more of the famed industrial era buildings in CBD, OTR, and CUF kept, this video would have been waaaay more depressing between 1999-2010. It was a ghost town, with many buildings falling so far into disrepair, they had to be torn down. I think Cincinnati has done a pretty good job recently with its development, even if some of the newer architecture is ugly, better than having bricks falling off abandoned properties and empty storefronts. It could definitely do a much better job of creating and sustaining affordable housing, esp since they killed a well-written affordable housing measure a few years back. I'm really concerned now about the privatization of the RR. City leaders did not use foresight on that at all, as privatization has caused more RR accidents and issues as the deregulated train cos don't have to abide by rules that keep them more safe.
@NCZoningStudio
@NCZoningStudio Ай бұрын
🥲🥲🥲🥲 you’re doing good work
@BillMorse-jr2ou
@BillMorse-jr2ou Ай бұрын
a great, reflective look at how much we’ve sacrificed to the altar of cars and trucks… and I have owned many. My smaller hometown of New London, Connecticut thought it could bulldoze itself to prosperity and largely failed. Only the building of submarines is keeping the area afloat. if all goes well, “Lost New London” will be coming out in about 6 months through The History Press (Arcadia Publishing). Would like to give a plug for your “Fallen Cities” channel in the book, Alexander. all the best, Bill in Vermont
@erniekeller1093
@erniekeller1093 Ай бұрын
Boston came back from the brink when it demolished the Central Artery and built a tunnel. The highway was replaced by a string of parks that draw many visitors and locals.
@PearlCityMinecraft
@PearlCityMinecraft Ай бұрын
Can you do one of these for Detroit?
@signoresantinoburnett1169
@signoresantinoburnett1169 26 күн бұрын
Meanwhile in China, their major cities are all futuristic looking with high speed rail every where.
@olympic1l196
@olympic1l196 Ай бұрын
Do Indianapolis please, especially the destruction of Indiana Ave and all the flatirons lost.
@richardbaker2701
@richardbaker2701 Ай бұрын
Never been to America but this is devastating
@richardcypherrahl
@richardcypherrahl Ай бұрын
Well, that's because it's a lie.
@mor3nk74
@mor3nk74 Ай бұрын
3:48 straight up crazy 😮
@ayyyizme
@ayyyizme 24 күн бұрын
Please do Milwaukee.
@alexe1563
@alexe1563 29 күн бұрын
The before/after central station picture is shocking
@ameba9727
@ameba9727 Ай бұрын
One question. I see in the photos that they are all old Cities had more beautiful but similar architecture between them. Is it my impression or did they seem like a lot?
@alexanderrotmensz
@alexanderrotmensz Ай бұрын
There was certainly an American theme from city to city, although there were strong regional differences. It’s not as noticeable in the downtown but in the low rise neighborhood like north side, there is a more specific, local theme, and you see this in different cities across the country. Also, cities in California and Florida had a very different aesthetic. Most of these cities so far in this series are in the same general part of the US. Great question!
@ameba9727
@ameba9727 Ай бұрын
@@alexanderrotmensz Thank you very much.
@geography_joe
@geography_joe Ай бұрын
@@alexanderrotmenszprops for knowing about northside. Cincy still has a lot of really cool spots, and thats definitely up there
@devonwanner8457
@devonwanner8457 Ай бұрын
Do montreal next
@Johnelhadjmi
@Johnelhadjmi Ай бұрын
Thank God it have peoples with comon sens in power who protected some beautiful old buildings..
@rkma
@rkma 27 күн бұрын
You really took us to Rock Bottom with this one.
@JonBrooks105
@JonBrooks105 21 күн бұрын
Thank goodness they left the Osgood Flymm Building intact!
@davidwayne68
@davidwayne68 Ай бұрын
Truth being hidden in plain sight! nice video, cheers
@JokersAce0
@JokersAce0 29 күн бұрын
It appears that the library is lost, though the second pic is from the library at John Hopkins university?
@edwardkierklo9757
@edwardkierklo9757 22 күн бұрын
Would make the case that Hartford CT WAS once a vibrant liveable city. However it cut itself off from the Connecticut River and post war redevelopment killed it. Mark Twain originally lived there for good reasons.
@mrcactus245
@mrcactus245 Ай бұрын
Can you do Richmond VA please? It had one of the worst glow downs in the US imo
@extra-samsaric3836
@extra-samsaric3836 Ай бұрын
Yes, and the "events" of 2020 finished the job.
@pandarosamusic5751
@pandarosamusic5751 Ай бұрын
3:44 That is a horrifying change. You'd think a bomb was dropped on the place.
@folumb
@folumb 5 күн бұрын
It's odd to hear you talk about Cincinnati like this. Coming from STL, when I visited I felt it was amazing. But when you're in STL, everything is up from there
@mattwoolsey2758
@mattwoolsey2758 Ай бұрын
What you call urban renewal I call urban destruction mostly for the intended benefit of suburbs. I guess urban renewal is a term that means out with the old, in with the new. I think mostly of rehabbing existing structures when I think of urban renewal. Maybe the term needs a better meaning.
@jgerman5093
@jgerman5093 Ай бұрын
I really like your videos. What happened to Cincinnati and other Americans cities seem to follow a pattern. Ever considered a unifying theory as to why it occurred across the nation?
@alexanderrotmensz
@alexanderrotmensz Ай бұрын
Modernist ideology
@jgerman5093
@jgerman5093 Ай бұрын
@alexanderrotmensz fair enough. I have a theory of my own. Bear with me as it will initially sound fantastic. I think it has to do with leaded gasoline. I think planners knew well before the second World War that city smog had extremely negative effects on the population (there are very telling graphs that correlate leaded gasoline with crime in a way that's hard to simply explain away). I believe the solution they settled on was the open air spaces we refer to as the suburbs. All these highways through otherwise viable areas coupled with the deliberate creation of ghettos were designed to push the obstinate ethnic white city dweller to finally opt for the suburbs. I don't think it's an accident that cities were once again presented as viable after the problems caused by leaded gasoline abated in the early to mid 90s. Entire programs like Friends and Sex to the City beckoned the children of those who had left to the suburbs a generation or two earlier to return to the cities.
@timothymacdonnell9079
@timothymacdonnell9079 Ай бұрын
This has happened to so many American cities. It just boggles my mind.
@perro4996
@perro4996 Ай бұрын
Interesting. Keep up the good work
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