American Discusses What It's Like To Work In Sweden

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Stefan Thyron

Stefan Thyron

3 жыл бұрын

In this video I discuss why Sweden has a great work life balance including things that I've noticed after living and working here for the past three years. I also discuss which work culture I prefer between Sweden and America.
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@lisahooks6002
@lisahooks6002 3 жыл бұрын
American surprised that a society actually wants you to be happy and healthy lol
@StefanThyron
@StefanThyron 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha it’s a crazy concept tbh 🙈😅
@annarehbinder7540
@annarehbinder7540 3 жыл бұрын
Sophie Interested to see how that works out, pun, intended as suddenly a medium to fairly wealthy group have been working at home or staying at home.
@SonnyKnutson
@SonnyKnutson 3 жыл бұрын
@Sophie Well said. I am from Sweden but I agree with you. People are often ignorant and to many are easily influenced by the wrong things and go down a path of destruction. Humanity will always be this way because it's innate to being human. All we can do is try our best to minimize it.
@jespereriksson5520
@jespereriksson5520 3 жыл бұрын
Ashley Paulsen we learn 3 languages here, how many do you speak? Yeah thats what i thought. I also enjoy watching it all go down in flames. The riots and everthing is so entertaining to watch. I hope it keeps on going and the chaos
@jespereriksson5520
@jespereriksson5520 3 жыл бұрын
Ashley Paulsen you are not that smart Are you? Imagine thinking someone is the same person just because they dont agree with you.
@karnellschultz6446
@karnellschultz6446 3 жыл бұрын
American living in Stockholm here. From my perspective Swedes are chillin at work. I feel like people are not working like they 'need this next paycheck' if you know what I mean. In the States it's like if you don't work, you don't eat. Swedes are worried about how they're going to spend the summer. Love it here.
@haydenarias
@haydenarias 3 жыл бұрын
What do you work in (in sweden)?
@karnellschultz6446
@karnellschultz6446 3 жыл бұрын
@@haydenarias I work for a fin-tech company.
@martinastrand1079
@martinastrand1079 3 жыл бұрын
Haha gave me some perspective. I'm usually stressing out how to spend my vacation and weekends 😂
@stananderson4524
@stananderson4524 4 ай бұрын
Recently retired American. It felt like I was working hard to prove my self worth so I could safely keep my job get a promotion raise or bonus, or to get a good recommendation on a resume. You pile on lots of debt to keep up with the latest and greatest and adds to the stress. I look back and of all the most meaningful things that happened in my life during these years. I can't think of many that involved work.
@MrBrutalicus
@MrBrutalicus 3 жыл бұрын
To work hard and to work efficient is not the same thing.
@MagnusFoss
@MagnusFoss 3 жыл бұрын
Thats also true, its estimated that you are only efficient about 4 hours a day. So 12 hours workdays do not make much sense. Its probably counterproductive, a 6 hour workday produce better outcome than a 12 hour workday.
@MichaalHell
@MichaalHell 3 жыл бұрын
Ding ding ding.. I wonder how efficient those Wall Street big shoots really are.
@Romil_un
@Romil_un 3 жыл бұрын
@@MagnusFoss yes i heard about one book. Idk name. It is called deliberate. They also said u can only do deliberate work 2 to 4 hr
@yayaguava3026
@yayaguava3026 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@jamesb118
@jamesb118 3 жыл бұрын
@@MagnusFoss It really depends on how motivated you are, as well as your individual disposition. For me, if I’m working 12+ hours/day, I often do better quality work. But only if I’m absorbed in it, which isn’t something I can voluntarily switch on or off.
@athena12373
@athena12373 3 жыл бұрын
I admire Sweden for their emphasis on work-life balance. I’m from Florida (USA) and the constant pressure to work longer hours, or the worry of being sick and missing work days is awful and does not benefit us as a society. The constant, fast pace lifestyle produces so much anxiety. Companies may think they are benefiting by employees working so much but unhappy employees don’t produce as much as happy ones.
@pontus9209
@pontus9209 3 жыл бұрын
If this is the case then atleast one company in the whole US should have learned this fact, and then they could easily draw employees in by offering more vacations, sick-leave safety etc, and they would be more profitable as a result. I mean if we assume companies strive for profits, which they do ofcourse. Is this not done?
@womanofacertainage5892
@womanofacertainage5892 3 жыл бұрын
@@pontus9209 Employees are mostly disposable to a lot of employers in the US. It's profits over people, not people over profits. And you're right, of course. When it's people over profits, there are plenty of profits and people are healthier and happier. But too many US companies just don't think that way. We've seen that forever but especially recently with meat-packing plants and other similar workplaces not protecting their workers, not creating distance between workers, not providing PPE to them, etc. Really good businesses in the US DO value workers and are profitable as a result (e.g. Costco is one I can think of with decent pay and benefits) but for every Costco or Ben & Jerry's -- there are 100 companies like Wal-Mart that pay too little and offer no health insurance or other benefits unless you're a manager.
@tomvoid6169
@tomvoid6169 3 жыл бұрын
@@pontus9209 Companies are driven by people and people are stupid. Studies HAVE shown that shorter workdays and no karensdag is better for productivity, as well as the fact that open landscape offices lower productivity, but people are stuck in their ways and only look at the short term effects. The purpose of the people running companies is to maximize profits for a short while and then jump ship when it starts going badly. Ps. Tests in the US among others have shown that universal basic income works, making entire populations more productive and healthy, yet ppl are still against it. As I said, people are stupid and would rather shoot themselves in the foot than risk someone else getting something for nothing.
@reptilezsweden
@reptilezsweden 3 жыл бұрын
Less hours makes focus easier. Sweden is actually inching (or cm-ing) closer and cloaser to a 30 hour work week :)
@jayamilapersson4030
@jayamilapersson4030 3 жыл бұрын
I can now see WHY so many of you have a personal therapist.
@becurious2000
@becurious2000 Жыл бұрын
As a fellow American in Sweden, I have loved your videos. I am a nurse from Texas working towards getting my nurse license in Sweden. Great video, I actually had no sick days at all in America working for the hospital. If I got vacation days and if I was sick, it came out of my vacation days. I also found out here in Sweden that if you are 40, you get 6 weeks paid vacation. Pretty amazing.
@pushnpow
@pushnpow 3 жыл бұрын
I came to Sweden from working construction in New Zealand, and the difference is night and day. In NZ I work anywhere from 60-80 hours a week, 6-7 days a week. In Sweden we are only meant to work 40 hours maximum, so I work almost half as much and usually 4-5 days a week. The pace of work is much less stressful and more relaxed, which shows in the workforce. I’ve witnessed far happier workers in Sweden, people are more reliable, healthier and happier. And I would wager it’s smarter and more efficient to have 2 people do a 35 hour week, than 1 doing 70 hours a week. That keeps people fresh and gives them plenty of time to rest and do other activities, and also means there’s more jobs , which keeps unemployment lower. There’s a big focus on technology in construction here, the old term “work smarter, not harder” comes to mind, so machinery is more efficiently utilised and building processes are generally more efficient and safer. It is amazing how quickly a decent building can be constructed in this country. I’m also a workaholic, so the free time is very alien to me, but it is definitely well used by the Swedes. As you say, they have more time for cooking decent food and spending time exercising and raising their family, so their quality of life is really good.
@blue18404
@blue18404 8 ай бұрын
WASP values are evil.
@maxysurvivorsucks
@maxysurvivorsucks 3 жыл бұрын
Americans live to work, Swedes work to live.
@womanofacertainage5892
@womanofacertainage5892 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Americans work to survive. The majority of us work and work and work and the cost of medical insurance and deductibles -- combined with the cost of child care and college or trade school - and forget saving for retirement unless you're very well off . . .all of those things take so much of our paychecks. We lack universal medical care and universal child care and just those two things keep lower and middle-income Americans cash-poor while they work their tails off.
@tobsonj8114
@tobsonj8114 3 жыл бұрын
I often hear that in the usa you earn much like in sweden. Even though we have a high tax here in Sweden, we do not have to save money to be able to be sick, or go to school and get food there, etc. A day should be divided into 1/3 job, 1/3 free time, 1/3 sleep
@ingerejohansson1118
@ingerejohansson1118 3 жыл бұрын
True
@ismaela.6973
@ismaela.6973 3 жыл бұрын
@@womanofacertainage5892 that's what it means to live to work...
@pickyogum1501
@pickyogum1501 3 жыл бұрын
This is the ordain path of unfettered capitalism. A well balanced socialism capitalism hybrid system is the answer, but the super rich right wingers since FDR has managed to totally marginalized socialism. Today, the avg American recoils at anything that sounds socialistic. Will avg working Americans ever get out of this loser mentality? There are signs things are changing, but not until the generations of Better Dead than Red fades away. Until then, we have a majority of Americans in near destitution. They all know they have to work until they are drop. Such is the end point of capitalism run a muck .
@stefangunther8594
@stefangunther8594 3 жыл бұрын
I (German) used to live and work in the US for a decade and in the very first beginning I was also surprised of how long the Americans hung around in the office. It didn't take long to figure out, that they by far don't work more, the just take longer ....
@sarawarlestedt7242
@sarawarlestedt7242 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first video he calls Sweden WE and America America.
@genocidejoe
@genocidejoe 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 he is never going back to america
@deepsleep7822
@deepsleep7822 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that as well.
@carlandersson6140
@carlandersson6140 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a Swede living in America. Like you are saying, Americans are work work work and stressful everywhere. And again, you have those people that only cares about work and money and they become rich but unhappy because they don’t experience the family quality life. I did that for 1 year and it almost caused my marriage. Now I work for an incredible company that offers 4 weeks vacation a year and 80 hours of sick time a year, plus holidays. This is company is built on the Swedish work life balance principle. They offers short massages at work, listen to your own headphones while working, flexible hours.
@annikaerf
@annikaerf 3 жыл бұрын
@Sophie I guess he is working for IKEA :)
@hernlind
@hernlind 3 жыл бұрын
80 hours sicktime is alot? This sound crazy to me. You bring the virus to work when you are out of sicktime. So more people get sick. Thats just bad planning by The Bosses.
@Narjoso
@Narjoso 3 жыл бұрын
I often see that work hours is used to measure how good you are at working, In my humble opinon I believe if you work crazy amount of hours 70-90h/week you would not be an effective work force. You need to have time off to be able to rest and enjoy yourself for then to be able to give a 100% when you are working. It would be intresting if it was possible to messure the work effectivness between someone who works 40h/week compared to someone who works 60h+/week.
@amemabastet9055
@amemabastet9055 3 жыл бұрын
And somebody needs to consume everything produced, too. Can't do that if you're working, can you.
@MLennholm
@MLennholm 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just your humble opinion, there's research to back this up. That's why shortening the workday to 6 hours is being seriously considered in many places.
@_w_w_
@_w_w_ 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you are correct.. It really depends on the field you are. I am in high-tech and I manage activities in the US as well as Asia. My typical work days is easily 14-16 hours and they have gotten worse during the pandemic, pushing 18 hours days, that happens at least part of the weekend as well. I can assure you those hours are well spent and efficient, not just answer an occasional email. That's why I agree with another comment that Americans live to work... I am not the only one doing this. The competitive nature of the US industry seem to cause this issue. Many also don't take our vacations because you'd be buried under catch-up work when you return. It's actually more stressful than not taking the vacation. I think this is why that Americans seem to value major holidays a lot because it's the only time you an sneak in an extra day off without causing backed up work. Having traveled and worked in other countries, I actually find many European countries are way too relaxed - it's common to see weeks go by with no progress on things. One such example is that we discussed something with our European counterpart, then on the next week's check point, they wanted to talk more about it when we told them the work was already done... 1 week is a long time in US term but not so for a lot of European cultures.
@amemabastet9055
@amemabastet9055 3 жыл бұрын
@@_w_w_ I do agree that people may have the capacity to do what you do, but not all do so and not at all times. It is also a question of expectations and view on life. This kind of work ethic is common in some religious milieus like protestant and konfucian (AFAIK) but if you have other aspirations in life, things like this will wear you down because you don't own your life, somebody else does. I used to have that kind of work load, albeit not at one place but spread out on different locations. I did so for some years and then the wall hit me and turned me into a wreck. So in order to shape a community and a society, I don't believe that kind of situation is the best for a society as a whole in the long run. Young people may be able to, but not everybody their whole life. My own take on this is that we should set the normal working hours to 6 so that those who want to may take two jobs or passes at the same place. That would make it easier for families to plan etc, too.
@walkthewalktalkthetalk6371
@walkthewalktalkthetalk6371 Жыл бұрын
እንደ የስራው አይነት ይወሰናል።ለምሳሌ የከተማ አውተቡሰ ሾፌር ፣ የአገር አቋራጭ ከባድ መኪና አሽከርካሪዎች ፣የተለያዩ ፋብሪካ አና ኢንዱስትሪ ሠራተኞች የትም አገር ቢሆን የ ስምንት የስራ ሰዓት ማለት ስምንት የስራ ሰአቱን ሳይጨርስ ሰራተኛው ማቆም የሚቻልባቸው አይደሉም።ስለዚህ ስራን በጥራት መስራት የሚቻለው ለ 4 ወይም ለ 6 ሰዓት ነው የሚለው ብሂል እነዚህን የዓለም ተበዝባዥ ሠራተኞች ን ይጨምር ይሆን?
@friswing
@friswing 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work in an office with 'summer time', that meant, 1 hour shorter work hours 3 months of the year, and 9 months with 45 minutes longer work time. So it is compensated.
@teagustavsson
@teagustavsson 3 жыл бұрын
The reason you get your work permit evoked if you don’t take out enough vacation days is that Sweden doesn’t want their own work force to have an unfair disadvantage to outside work force.
@joelblom1388
@joelblom1388 3 жыл бұрын
And also make sure that foreign workers don´t get mistreated
@teagustavsson
@teagustavsson 3 жыл бұрын
River Piscean Maybe my English is not good enough to explain it? It’s like this: If companies in Sweden could hire foreign workers and get them Swedish work permits and the foreign workers don’t use their vacation days then companies would prefer foreign workers while Swedes would go unemployed. We wouldn’t compete on the same terms. The Swedish unions have worked hard to get to where we are today with five weeks vacation. We want to keep them.
@StefanThyron
@StefanThyron 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is foreign workers still have vacation days just like everyone else. If a Swede wants to work extra and get paid extra they can, so it’s weird that non Swedes can’t do this
@sandrawinberg7701
@sandrawinberg7701 3 жыл бұрын
Stefan Thyron I am a swede and I cant do that. I work in a hospital and we must take a minimum of 20 days vacation per year.
@AntorAntor
@AntorAntor 3 жыл бұрын
@@StefanThyronHonestly, it's a bit strange that foreign workers would be deported for not using their vacation days, so I wonder if there might be more to the story. They aren't technically the ones at fault as I understand it. An employer in Sweden is bound by law (semesterlagen) to make sure that each and every one of their employees use at least 20 vacation days per year.
@InternationalFeds
@InternationalFeds 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Swedes tend to leave work earlier than in other countries, but I noticed that they also often tend to start work earlier as well...
@haalloondricka
@haalloondricka 3 жыл бұрын
To me, the song "9 to 5" (Dolly Parton) has always seemed strange. When I was a kid, my parents would drive to work around 7 in the morning whilst school didn't start until 8, and then they'd be home around 16 (4 pm). Also, depending on your job of course, you can leave work earlier, and if necessary do some work at home. But in the US, when does the work day usually start?
@blueeyedbaer
@blueeyedbaer 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. My work oficially starts at 7:45 but I come at 7:20-7:25 and do some work before the official start. I also have a 45 minute long lunch break but I usually eat for only 30 minutes. In that way I can finish my work before 16:00 and since it takes only 10 minutes to get home I can enjoy a long afternoon off work.
@MagnusFoss
@MagnusFoss 3 жыл бұрын
Im cofounder of my company, Im typically at the office at 7.30 am and I leave at 3 pm most days.
@northwestgirl930
@northwestgirl930 3 жыл бұрын
9-5 is terrible. Shift workers know the truth. 5-1 is better, you still work 8 hours, but you get to enjoy the rest of the day.
@69raisinswhy
@69raisinswhy 3 жыл бұрын
@@northwestgirl930 my mom used to leave work at 6 pm because she didn’t like getting up early. 5 am is way to early to start work, what are you even going to do the entire day when you get off work at 1 pm?
@Jauhl1
@Jauhl1 3 жыл бұрын
MIght be worth mentioning that Sweden generally have a qualification day (You aren't paid the first day of sickness) to discourage people from staying home from hangovers or whatnot. One of the features discontinued for greater corona regulation compliance though.
@MLennholm
@MLennholm 3 жыл бұрын
Also, you only get paid 80% of your normal salary while on sick-leave. The qualification day isn't really discontinued, it's still there, you just get compensated for it. However, you only get 804 SEK so unless you make 21k SEK/month or less you're still losing money.
@MoreToThePicture
@MoreToThePicture 3 жыл бұрын
I´m very thankful for the 25 days of vacation I get! I believe that the employee, employer and society also benefit from people taking care of themselves. Also you don´t spread your sickness to everyone else at work if you make sure to stay home when you are sick. It´s also safer for people around you if you are not to tired to stay alert at work (some jobs are more sensitive for this than others of course).
@StefanThyron
@StefanThyron 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more!
@bennywallin5252
@bennywallin5252 3 жыл бұрын
@@StefanThyron I have to add one thing to this. When you get older, you get even more paid vacation days. I'm 55 and have 34 days of paid vacation every year :)
@MLennholm
@MLennholm 3 жыл бұрын
@@bennywallin5252 That's not required by law, though, but many "kollektivavtal" includes it
@joelblom1388
@joelblom1388 3 жыл бұрын
Well "summer hours at work" is normally balanced by more hours a day winterttime. On the whole....they still wotk 40hrs week..... Going earlier in winter probobly only happens in places with flexible hours,,,and then they work more hours on days when the weather sucks
@Larindarr
@Larindarr 3 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend a book that just came out called "work won't love you back" and it touches upon this so well and all its roots. Especially for America. It also touches upon the gray areas that are even in Sweden: jobs that ppl dont respect. The arts. I will briefly illustrate it: the hours of the Wallstreet guy are cute compared to studio recording time for artists producers musicans animators engineers. There are many artists in Sweden that i know for a fact have worked themselves to burnout. This is an interesting topic.
@johannaforzelius9666
@johannaforzelius9666 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just want to point out that even though a lot of jobs manage to cut down on work hours there are still a lot of people in sweden who are working just as hard as people overseas. A family member of mine works as a doctor in a general practice. His work hours are supposed to be 8-17, but in real life looks more like 6-19. And maybe some hours on the weekend as well if he hasn't been able to keep up with paperwork. And nurses and healthcare workers works way harder than anyone should ask if them, especially in these times. Just because rules and regulations are in place doesn't mean that all is sunshine and rainbows. But I do agree that striving for a healthy work/life-balance is a really good thing.
@StefanThyron
@StefanThyron 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. In addition, many doctors in America have to be ‘on call’ where they can never fully relax in case of an emergency. Not sure what that looks like here in Sweden.
@johannaforzelius9666
@johannaforzelius9666 3 жыл бұрын
@@StefanThyron They do it here to. How much and how often you have to do it depends on what field you're in. If you're a gp then it's not that bad. My dad switched fields du to this. 1 in 3 weekends was the offer from the hospital position.
@danymalsound
@danymalsound 3 жыл бұрын
Älskar din kanal! Tack för delning!
@bjorneriksson2404
@bjorneriksson2404 3 жыл бұрын
About the vacation deportation - this is one of the regulations regarding foreign workers that drives you crazy. As others have stated, there are regulations in place to keep employers from exploiting foreign workers, but the enforcement of the regulations is extremely strict and rigid, to the extent that it sometimes punishes the worker instead of the employer. There have been cases where some minimum salary has been changed and the employer failed to notice at first, so the employee got paid a tiny bit too little for a month or three before the employer corrected the mistake and gave them the missing amount retroactively (we're talking a few bucks in total). Then later on, maybe years later when the worker has perhaps even changed employer or is running their own business, they are deported when that tiny mistake is discovered by some immigration authority. It's happened to people who's been living in Sweden for over a decade. So they deport people for no mistake of their own, people who are working and paying taxes. Just... crazy.
@carlmelander6653
@carlmelander6653 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is supprisive and not okay by the government for sure.
@amemabastet9055
@amemabastet9055 3 жыл бұрын
While other foreigners seems to be able to engage in all sorts of criminal and/or violent activity without even going to jail, let alone being exiled. Current problem. There are no more slots in the prison system for newly convicted. They may roam the nation for at least 100 days before having to report to the prison to be let in. It really is just crazy.
@hellowan93
@hellowan93 3 жыл бұрын
I see Stefan uploads, I clicked and liked 😎
@StefanThyron
@StefanThyron 3 жыл бұрын
😍🙌🏼
@fredrichl
@fredrichl 3 жыл бұрын
This vid reminded me, i gotta sprinkle a couple of vacation days over this autumn so i can go out and hunt. Nothing is as relaxing as alone-time in the woods in autumn.
@karllillemaa6718
@karllillemaa6718 3 жыл бұрын
Hej, have you ever talked about the apartment hunting & cost of living as an expat? Just found your videos (and instagram) and they are such a joy to watch. Tack så mycket! (my second Swedish class is tomorrow:))
@k.handelsman2608
@k.handelsman2608 3 жыл бұрын
He talked loosely about it here and there. Apartment hunting is hard and listings vanish super quickly. Create a profile of Bostad.Blocket and Samtrygg. Found mine there - as most people do. But I's book 5 appointments in the morning and by the afternoon 4/5 had been sold... Good luck!
@paulingvar
@paulingvar 3 жыл бұрын
It´s not that 5 week vacation is typical for Sweden. It looks like this in Europe. US is the apart one.
@Idellle
@Idellle 3 жыл бұрын
I get 4 weeks in summer and 9 days later at autumn or winter. Finland, hospital worker not a nurse or doctor
@jayamilapersson4030
@jayamilapersson4030 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was more normal in Sweden to have 8weeks like 4 at summer about 2weeks in the winter and some 10-14 days at spring and fall. And yes I am living in Sweden( and always have been) but it maybe because the days ate marked as holidays it feels like that.
@jocke1972
@jocke1972 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Ingvarsson most people have 6 weeks, this has been negotiated collectively between the employers and unions
@Nicole-mr8po
@Nicole-mr8po 3 жыл бұрын
I got 5 weeks in the US after 5 years working with the company, started with 4 weeks. I think it's common.
@paulingvar
@paulingvar 3 жыл бұрын
@@jocke1972 I know that, the laws says at least 5 weeks. I have 6 weeks + .....
@ExbotHero
@ExbotHero 3 жыл бұрын
Our system is built around the idea of "folkhemmet". It´s a bit hard to translate but basically, it means a society where everybody can live well no matter who you are and what you do. Everybody has a good standard of living. Can make ends meet and work (at most) one job (35-40 hours per week.) Free universal health care. Free medication. Fre higher education and so on. Historically this came about due to the fact that we had strong unions who fought hard to create this system. Together with the political party, they had close contact with (Socialdemokraterna a.k.a. Social democracy party). Similar to the people's party or the left-wing of the democratic party. The progressive movement. (In USA). Bernie Sanders and AOC are other examples of people who come from the same type of ideology. One really important part of our history goes under the name of how we learned to compromise. Whats made this possible was something called "Saltsjöbadsandan" The spirit of Saltsjöbaden" (Named after the first big deal between the union and the employers' organizations, 1938.) This was the place and the time when they (after a long period of hard fights, where they finally decided to do what has come to be known as the Swedish model.) Two years of negotiation where they decided to always find a common ground and compromise to create the best solution for both parties. No more strikes and firing. Instead one big negotiation every year + local ones from that framework and calm periods in between. Basically the system we still have today. (Remember: This was in a time when many countries had really big problems that treatment not only the workers but also the employer's safety.) Wild strikes, no safety for the workers, and social inequality as the main result. The Swedish willingness to compromise and to accept and respect the other side's option and to separate us as individuals from the opinions without hate after a discussion. All of these steems from this period. We have learned that everybody always wins in the long run if we compromise. The other side isn't our enemy it's our counterpart, striving for a common goal. (From a different point of view.) Instead of; What's the best solution for me we got; What's the best solution for all of us!
@72strand
@72strand 3 жыл бұрын
Det du skriver stämmer inte. Svenskar och myndigheter har inte individens bästa för ögonen. Exempel. Kommuner behöver enligt lag inte ge dig en bostad, de behöver inte ge dig socialbidrag. Det finns inga universella bidrag som du kan få om du är arbetslös. Om jag skriver in min på AF får jag inga bidrag. Om jag är sjuk kan jag nekas att bli sjukskriven. osv. Människor i Sverige skiter i andra människor, det är så det är.
@ExbotHero
@ExbotHero 3 жыл бұрын
@@72strand Du få¨r skilja på äpplen och päron. Först och främst så har du fel om fakta. Uppfyller du VILLKOREN får du stöd men självklart får du INTE stöd om du inte gör det! (Menar du att man skall få allt utan minsta motkrav eller vad?!) Att sedan FK blivit hårdare och ger avslag när vissa är sjukskrivna är en skandal. (Men inte omöjligt att rätta till.) Dels skall ALLA som drabbas överklaga (och de blir de facto berättigade till SOCIALBIDRAG om de inte har andra inkomster under tiden och dels så finns det faktiskt partier (samt delar av andra partier) som med näbbar och klor bekämpar dessa åtstramningar. Vänsterpartiet och de som går under beteckningen vänstersossar utgör här de främsta som står upp för vårt socialförsäkringssystem och tar strid mot de fel som sker. Inget av detta innebär som du påstår att jag har fel och att människor skiter i andra människor. Visst. Röstar du på M, KD, SD, C eller L så tillhör du säkerligen gruppen som skiter i alla andra, men är du vänstersosse, röstar på vänsterpartiet eller MP eller tom. tillhör minoriteten i C och L som är starkt socialliberala så står alla dessa upp för det svenska systemet och kämpar ganska framgångsrikt även om vi sett försämringar. Det folk som du inte tycks inse är att om man med ena handen röstar på Alliansen (eller stödjer deras budgetar) som SD alltid gjort så godkänner man att det tas 150 miljarder PER ÅR från vår välfärd. Pengar som går till jobbskatte (bidrag) avdrag, RUT, TOT samt avskaffande av förmögenhetsskatten etc. Väljer man detta vägval så MÅSTE de som sitter i regeringen spara på ALLA områden och då stramar de åt med förhoppning att ev. fuskare skall drabbas och övriga som verkligen behöver skall överklaga och få det de behöver ändå. Problemet med den logiken är ju ganska uppenbar. De som är sjukast tillhör ju också gruppen med minst förmåga och ork att driva en överklagan i rätten. (Mitt tips är änså att de gör det då i princip alla som har rätt enligt regelverket också vinner i rätten.) Det jag beskrev på engelska var det historiska upplägget på det svenska välfärdssamhället. Det var 100 % korrekt. Att det naggas i kanten och försämras stavas Alliansen, SD, privatiseringar och högersossar som drivit en politik (som i vart fall högersossarna själva inte ens ville skulle få detta resultat.) Så nej, du har fel. Folk skiter inte i varandra i Sverige men vi har olika samhällssyn hur vi uppnår ungefär samma mål. Borgarna och SD anser att alla som inte jobbar är potentiella smitare och därför skall ha så låg ersättning som möjligt (piska och morot) men inte ens de menar att vårt system skall avvecklas. S, V och MP vill i praktiken ha kvar och tom. höja ersättningsnivåerna samt införa ännu fler reformer (som fri tandvård etc.) men har inte majoriteten att genomföra detta utan tvingas kompromissa med partier som har motsatt samhällssyn, vilket naturligtvis gör att det blir problem. Så återigen, du har fel, men jag köper att du är besviken. Inte heller jag är nöjd av hur systemet misshandlats de senaste 15-20 åren.
@72strand
@72strand 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExbotHero Det verkar bra att du är öppen för att lära(hoppas). Varje liten fråga har många argument på båda sidor. För och emot. Det vi kan göra är att ta någon lite fråga där vi inte har hört alla fakta och prata om. Min erfarenhet av att tala med vänstern är dock att vid minsta lilla sak som jag kan bevisa för dem. Så slutar de omedelbart att skriva. För det är smärtsamt att ha fel, och att kanske behöva omvärdera. Jag var vänster och är nu höger vad nu det betyder. Jag kan nog svara på alla dina frågor. Så få mer kött på benen. Låter det ok?
@ExbotHero
@ExbotHero 3 жыл бұрын
@@72strand Vi kan säkert ha en trevlig debatt. Är själv det som brukar kallas vänstersosse (m.a.o. inte socialdemokrat längre.) Men har många vänner i de flesta politiska läger. Om jag skulle dra min egen grundsyn är den enkel. De som tror på en ideologi, står upp för den och driver en politik utifrån den är bra mycket lättare att respektera än folk som byter ideologi (utan att byta parti.) M.a.o. inget fel att ändra åsikt om man gör en annan analys, men fullständigt bakvänt att t.ex. vara socialdemokrat och skryta över att de stoppade klasskampen, införde privatiseringar, RUT och ROT avdrag samt numera anser att det är bra med så snålt socialförsäkringssystem som möjligt då detta enligt dom är den nya socialdemokratiska arbetslinjen. (Läs, Att vara som Mona Sahlin + många andra i den partitoppen som funnits i partiet sedan slutet på 90-talet.) Själv tror jag på ett rubust och tryggt socialförsäkringssystem samt på individernas egna fria vilja att återvända till yrkesarbete så fort de har hälsa att klara av det. (Lite motsatsen till mångas syn på folket i gemen när åsikten kommer från högerkanten.) Där tycks de tro att folk fuskar bara för att just de själva fuskar så fort de har chansen. (Du får ursäkta den ironiska piken) men så ser min erfarenhet ut oavsett om det rör högersossar eller andra borgare som tycker till om vanligt folk och det sk. utbredda fusk de påstår förekommer. Minns såväl en beryktad utredning Alliansen lade fram på detta tema. Den påstod att det försvann 20 miljarder per år i bidragsfusk. Det märkliga. Inte en enda forskare ansåg att det ens fanns belägg för 5 % av den "hitta på summan". Med facit i hand visade det ju sig att hela insatsen att stoppa fusk gick med gigantisk förlust då det mycket riktigt bara handlade om 1-2 % fusk och insatsen (jakten på fuskarna) faktiskt kostade bra mycket mer än de fick in den vägen. Trist nog blev det dock en bra besparingskälla då de samtidigt som del av insatsen tvingade ner alla ersättningsnivåer till rena bottennivåerna och dessutom gjorde det svårare att ens få dem även om man var berättigad. För mig som befinner sig på vänsterkanten så var detta dels ett ideologiskt angrepp på vårt trygghetssystem och dels ett stort svek mot de svagaste som alla politiker visste var helt ofarligt då dessa svaga grupper aldrig påverkar en valutgång. P.S Skriver med mobilen, orkar inte rätta de ord den ändrar (jag ej ser på den lilla skärmen att de blir felstavade) etc. men hoppas det gick att förstå ändå. Mvh Morgan
@72strand
@72strand 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExbotHero Hej, ja blir bra. Har du något som du direkt vill fråga om, t ex en enskild fråga som högern eller SD driver och som du vill veta mera om?
@jabkossuth6945
@jabkossuth6945 3 жыл бұрын
First of all. When you are sick you get a deduction of you salary. First day of sickness you get 100% off and for the remaining days you will get a deduction of 20% every day. IE if you are sick 5 days you get an deduction of 1,8 days. About "klämdagar" you DONT get them for free. You will have to work for it. So instead of working 8 hours per day you work for about 8 h 10 m.(i do not know the exact ratio) (the "klämdagar" are spread among all other days.) Most workplaces have "FLEX" wich mean i can go home when i want (in certain condition depending on the workplace). Then you will have to work back those hours another day. So if i go home at 3 o'clock i get 1,5 hour "undertime" and have to work extra to cancel them. About summertime. Most places you work longer during winter. So with all those strange things you talk about, in the end, your total worktime should be 40h/week. Generall speaking.(there are some special workplaces with special rules but for the majority in sweden it is always 40h/week)
@Shiva182Katarina
@Shiva182Katarina 3 жыл бұрын
karensdagen finns inte längre. Det är karensavdrag nu, så du får betalt första dagen du är sjuk
@jabkossuth6945
@jabkossuth6945 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shiva182Katarina Sant att det heter avdrag. Skillnaden är dock för de som har timanställning, de får betalt första dagen.Har du månadslön är det ingen reell skillnad. Du får fortfarande avdrag för första sjukdagen oavsett antal dagar du är sjuk. (hela dagar)
@herkcollins4263
@herkcollins4263 3 жыл бұрын
It's good for me, to know that there's a place that exists where your work is appreciated without knocking yourself out and destroying yourself.Keep the great videos coming, I plan to move to Sweden and you're helping me learn. Thank you : )
@patrikmarchente1907
@patrikmarchente1907 3 жыл бұрын
Be aware that this is the "ideal scenario" that you're describing about sweden. There are MANY people with chronic illnesses who get NO insurance money whatsoever, many people with serious illnesses
@jeffstanford7767
@jeffstanford7767 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan, I agree with you 110% on this one. As an American who moved to Sweden 36 years ago I have always been super impressed with the Swedish system. You might want to explain more for Americans how it can be possible for Sweden to have such a system. Health care, education, day care services, equality, innovation, entrepreneurship, respect and so much more have created a society of people who enjoy achievement at the same time they appreciate that we all need down time to recharge our energy now and then. Swedes also appreciate that if we have time to nurture our families and private time we can perform better in our jobs. I can go on and on but will save you from that. BTW you live quite near my job. I work at Systembolaget at Sveavägen 66. It would be cool to meet you and compare notes. I am not your typical American (if that exists) because I moved from New Jersey when I was 11 to live in London in 1967. However I am still American and have said to everyone that I will change my passport to a Swedish one if Trump wins again. Near me is a pizza place called "Slice of New York" . I invite you to share lunch there on my "dollar". Beware though as I am so in love with the Swedish system that I am a very active member of the Union, both for Systembolaget and for Unionen.se See you soon , if you dare!
@linneahanninen2887
@linneahanninen2887 3 жыл бұрын
The history behind Swedish work and union system is really interesting. If your interested in a major event(in regards of the labor movement in Sweden) read or listen to people talking about the events taking place in Ådalen like svenska folkets historia podd-episode named Ådalen
@monicahellman8799
@monicahellman8799 3 жыл бұрын
I Sverige har vi länge haft en bra relation mellan fackföreningar och arbetsgivare =kollektivavtal. Alla dessa klämdagar eller arbetstidsförkortning är ett resultat av goda förhandlingar mellan de två. Det är inte arbetsgivaren som är nice (i de flesta fall). Kul att följa dig!
@ingerejohansson1118
@ingerejohansson1118 3 жыл бұрын
I stort sett riktigt. Men så sent som förra året vet jag arbetsgivare som gett anställda klämdagar utan att facket varit inblandat. Skälet är enkelt det blir billigare och enklare i längden. Billigare: mindre åtgång på energikostnad. Lättare göra uppstart Enklare: Om en arbetsgivare ger anställda klämdagar vid vissa tillfällen behövs ingen som registrerar frånvaro eller begäran om ledighet.
@TullaRask
@TullaRask 3 жыл бұрын
@@ingerejohansson1118 Det kan også være en teknikk for å hindre folk i å organisere seg. De får rettighetene uansett, så hvorfor organisere seg? I Norge har vi faktisk ikke minstelønn. Det har ikke vært et behov. I stedet finnes det noen regler om underbetaling.
@MagnusFoss
@MagnusFoss 3 жыл бұрын
Inger E Johansson jo men klämdagar hade inte funnits utan facket. Facket har förlorat mycket av vad de var men det är helt och hållet fackets förtjänst att vi har semesterdagar, sjukförsäkringssystwm etc.
@ingerejohansson1118
@ingerejohansson1118 3 жыл бұрын
Nu har du och förmodligen många andra fått fel information. Fikaraster fanns även innan facket fick verkligt inflytande. Ofta bara att ta med fika till plats vid arbetsplats!!!!
@lottat6420
@lottat6420 3 жыл бұрын
@@ingerejohansson1118 Man hade också arbetsdagar som var 10-14 timmar långa och arbetade 6 dagar i veckan... Arbetsgivaren kunde anställa barn, aga anställda och det fanns inget skydd om du skadade dig. Utan facket hade Sverige fortfarande varit grymma arbetsgivares paradis. 🙄
@johan.ohgren
@johan.ohgren 3 жыл бұрын
I work forest 6 to 7 months a year, six days a week and currently we leave house at 7:15 in the morning and come home 20:00 in the evening. Not minimum wage but we sure wouldn't mind more for our hard work. I'm also the only swede in my company besides the owner.
@Meadowswife
@Meadowswife 3 жыл бұрын
In my line of work I never get summer time, but I do get 32 days of vacation each year since I turned 50! Not every job in Sweden offers 6 hours work days in the summer time, thats more for people who work in offices or private companies I suppose. 👍
@yngveahlenback320
@yngveahlenback320 3 жыл бұрын
I'm swedish, and I have worked for some 40 years, mostly in Sweden. I have never even heard about 6h working days, neither in summer nor winter.
@markomanaskov9669
@markomanaskov9669 3 жыл бұрын
Great and objective insight's about Sweden. Keep going Stefan
@samueld6511
@samueld6511 3 жыл бұрын
Stats: Average workweek: Sweden 39.0 hours. Percent working over 50 hours per week: 1.1% USA: 41.5hours 11.1% Some other: France: 38.9 7.7% Finland: 39.3 3.8% Norway: 38.0 2.9% Denmark (best) 37.2 2.3% Germany: 39.5 4.3% Switzerland: 40.5 0.4% UK 41.8 12.2% Australia 41.8 13.0% Mexico: 48.5 28.7%
@kizombahot4u39
@kizombahot4u39 3 жыл бұрын
Samuel D In Norway its 37,5 hours week
@evaverngren9681
@evaverngren9681 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting statistics.👍
@SirIdot
@SirIdot 3 жыл бұрын
I have never worked at a job that had klämdagar. Also, those that I know that have them have a slighter longer work week to compensate.
@danhanqvist4237
@danhanqvist4237 3 жыл бұрын
The July thing... It's not nearly as closed down as it used to be. It's common to take the brunt of your holidays in the summer because of the climate. It's important that people are out and about when there is actually a bit of sun; otherwise they'll be ill in the winter and work less. That's also why you are entitled to three of your weeks in the summer.
@johnnyrosenberg9522
@johnnyrosenberg9522 3 жыл бұрын
My experience of ”klämdagar” is that you are not given them. You are just moving hours. For instance, if you are supposed to work 8 hours a day, you will work 8.2 hours each day, so when the next klämdag happens, you already worked those hours. It's like those extra vacation money you get when you are on a vacation. Those are your own money, they were just saved for your vacation, kind of.
@qweek
@qweek 3 жыл бұрын
And my experience from working in the IT industry is that we work less than 40 hours per week and still get our klämdagar.
@datarecoverysweden
@datarecoverysweden 3 жыл бұрын
As a Swedish company, we have a great system and approach to balancing work and family life.
@karlohlen9320
@karlohlen9320 3 жыл бұрын
In Sweden: If you get sick on your vacation you can actually pause your vacation, get paid sick leave instead and save a couple of vacation days.
@Jiiimbooh
@Jiiimbooh 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but not everyone knows this or uses this opportunity. Personally, I have never done it. My father had never done it until a few years ago, when a doctor gave him sick leave on his vacation, and my dad was like "wait, I'm already free from work". :D
@karlohlen9320
@karlohlen9320 3 жыл бұрын
​@Riley Frost Oh please...
@karlohlen9320
@karlohlen9320 3 жыл бұрын
@Riley Frost It was not an argument. I was just hoping that you would realize how ridiculous your statement was without me needing to say anything.
@karlohlen9320
@karlohlen9320 3 жыл бұрын
@Riley Frost You're trolling...
@poledra1980
@poledra1980 3 жыл бұрын
@Riley Frost it’s quite common for this concept to be misunderstood - most of us do not perceive it as the government stealing money. I give some of my salary away in order for the government to provide a service to me. So far, I haven’t had to rely on the system to a great extent, but in the past, other peoples payments (taxes) paid so I could go to school and university. I just see it as paying it forward. And I have no problem paying to ensure that those who are sick can stay home and focus on recovery, even if there is a small fraction of people who try to cheat the system (but that is, according to data, a very very small fraction indeed)
@andersmalmgren6528
@andersmalmgren6528 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen you around torsplan so it can't be too far from were I live :)
@anitaandersson1825
@anitaandersson1825 3 жыл бұрын
We have many workplaces where employees work very long working days just as you describe in the US. With an 80-hour work week, and where the work does not necessarily end just because you have come home or it is a weekend. Do not know any workplace where you can go home at 3 in the afternoon both summer and winter. Maybe it is a workplace in that case with a slightly freer type of job, where you can work from home or from a café, but that is not common. It will be a bit wrong, if you describe it as if it were standard in Swedish workplaces
@Rikard_Nilsson
@Rikard_Nilsson 3 жыл бұрын
A study a couple of years ago found that Americans go to work for longer, but their time/work efficiency was through the floor, in other words the employees got "burned out" and just goofed off or didn't work effectively. I.e: They spent a ton of time at work but only actually working a small amount of the time.
@wahaha6961
@wahaha6961 3 жыл бұрын
Then there's also friskvårdsbidrag, but I feel like you've covered that before. Just mentioning it cuz it weaves into the work-life balance imo 👍
@rantalaathome
@rantalaathome 3 жыл бұрын
I live and work in Sweden and Asia. In Sweden I do 5 days per week 6-10 hours per day. In Asia I do 6 days per week 10 - 14 hours per day. And Im pretty sure the locals dont have sick days at all.
@JohanYlinenjarvi
@JohanYlinenjarvi 3 жыл бұрын
I think Americans would work less if they made a living wage working 40-45h/week
@womanofacertainage5892
@womanofacertainage5892 3 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@witchfromthenorth5294
@witchfromthenorth5294 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@Cod4Wii
@Cod4Wii 3 жыл бұрын
AGREED
@witchfromthenorth5294
@witchfromthenorth5294 3 жыл бұрын
fredrik hurtig effective and work more hour is not the same thing
@skogslyckligl3488
@skogslyckligl3488 3 жыл бұрын
Ett hushåll i sverige med två vuxna arbetar också 80 timmar.
@AmbiCahira
@AmbiCahira 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy for you to have found people next door that can relate to your culture! That's priceless. ^^ Say, I thought of something I think might be another Swe/US culture difference that potentially could be fun for you to ask around about maybe although it's a small thing, I don't know but thought I'd pitch it in case you'd find it intriguing. When we were in like preschool and such there was an hour of the day where we had fruktstund which kind of is like a kafferast but the children eat fruit. I thought of it today and I was wondering what US relation to healthier options would be if there was a similar kind of culture of normalizing for example fruit. A few of my friends said "I'm so bad at eating fruit" and for a moment that sounded so odd to me and I suspect maybe it tied down to this little structure habit in a young age. I don't know if it's still happening now but I don't see why it would go away since I was a kid. In my preschool classroom there even was a compost for the fruit peel so we got to see worms digest the peels as a learning experience through glass and an open top. I'm sure it wasn't common for everyone but I liked it. :) If you mention fruktstund to a Swede though most of them might be hit with nostalgia and fondness because it was a highlight of the day. ^^
@annikaerf
@annikaerf 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for a wonderful recall!
@tigerchuu2148
@tigerchuu2148 3 жыл бұрын
As a Sweden I never noticed any dips in services in July because I am on vacation anyways like most other people haha
@lansvill
@lansvill 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! What about the comparison of salaries?
@jgrujanob
@jgrujanob 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Göteborg and I'm familiar with what it takes to run a business on the other side of the Atlantic. Sometimes I just wonder how hard it must be to keep a company's financials balanced under these conditions. It most definitely has an effect on the price of things made or sold in Sweden!
@womanofacertainage5892
@womanofacertainage5892 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% that the quality of life in Sweden surpasses that --- for 90%+ of Americans. Sure, if you're mega-wealthy from inherited money or something, maybe America has more to offer you. But for the vast majority of Americans, paying higher taxes (so we have a universal, single-payer healthcare system, universal child care, low to no-cost college or trade schools, etc.) and getting an overall much higher quality of life, and the ability to lead a healthier life, would be worth it.
@lenasoderberg4653
@lenasoderberg4653 3 жыл бұрын
and at a lower cost.
@adamcorfman573
@adamcorfman573 3 жыл бұрын
Another sense is we already pay more expensive taxes with health insurance, healthcare copays, rent, etc. If we don't pay them, the consequences are just as dire as not paying taxes, so in a sense, those base expenses are a tax. And like Lena says: we'd be paying less overall with the policies that you mention.
@womanofacertainage5892
@womanofacertainage5892 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamcorfman573 Correct!
@erikrusso9808
@erikrusso9808 3 жыл бұрын
I am working as an computer engineer in Sweden, and I work more hours than 9-17 because that's how you get opportunities for better positions and salary. I take all my vacation in cash (semesterersättning), and sometimes take unpaid vacation when I want and my schedule allows it
@evalevyrealtor1
@evalevyrealtor1 5 ай бұрын
I lived in Sweden from 1-5 and don't really remember it but deep inside I have this warm feeling towards the country... after watching your video... Let's all move to Sweden :-) :-) :-) I'll move back!
@mh69se
@mh69se 3 жыл бұрын
Even if you have the so called “summer times” doesn’t mean that you have less of work to do, just a smaller time to do it in
@eliasmediator
@eliasmediator 2 жыл бұрын
Exceptional presentation thank you!
@creativecook100
@creativecook100 3 жыл бұрын
I am Canadian - we are somewhere in between Sweden and the US. The number of paid sick days depends on your profession. We have free basic healthcare but other benefits are through your work (not every job has this) and then most prescriptions are covered when you turn 65. Parental leaves are 1 year and you collect unemployment insurance during that leave. We have to pay for daycare and post secondary education (or apply for student loans - OSAP in Ontario where I live). Our taxes are less than Sweden but higher than the US. We rely too much on cars like the US because if you don't live near a major city like Toronto, the public transportation is not very reliable. Whether you work long hours or 9-5 and get a pension plan or not depends totally on your job and whether it's government or private, whether you have a union, etc. So we have people who live like Americans, and people who live more like Europeans.You have to choose your work accordingly.
@sixx4771
@sixx4771 3 жыл бұрын
haha I drink beer with my neighbour every friday. Started to know each other last year. Tradition since. /Swede.
@frankvanhooft3927
@frankvanhooft3927 3 жыл бұрын
What’s interesting is productivity compared to hours worked, this gives a different picture than you give. Work / life balance seems to contribute to higher productivity per hour worked.
@mariaterling5899
@mariaterling5899 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like we barely work at all here in Sweden haha. We do work a lot, and many people work late and have a very stressfull jobs. Though we do often have flexible hours and yes we have looong vacation. So when we have a lot to do many work like 7am to 11 pm but when we dont have a lot to do we can leave early or take what we call flex hours ( when you work overtime you write how many hours plus you have and you can use theese when you want a day of or leave early). Not everyone has this though. So when you have a lot to do we work alot but when we dont, we dont work as much...
@baharmehrabi9397
@baharmehrabi9397 3 жыл бұрын
Hi your KZfaq channel is really useful thank u so much, I gonna immigrate to Sweden and ur videos are vary interesting and useful , It’s said that finding a job in Sweden is really hard I was wondering if you make a video how we can find a job in sweden ( Stockholm ) Best regards
@chelseacharger
@chelseacharger 3 жыл бұрын
They've struck a good balance as well as taking into account the climate and daylight hours of the country. Other European countries like Spain also have their own way of doing things, siesta, late meals and drinks, etc to live with the hot weather.
@jennykruuse8975
@jennykruuse8975 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve lived and worked in the USA for 12 years. And even though my longest vacation was 3 weeks I never missed longer vacations, due to all the 3 day weekends you have. I was in my twenties then and no kids, well I had a baby 2 years before I moved back home so I got to experience the no family leave that you have. Luckily my husband and I could work alternate hours so one could be home with the baby (who was very sick). Now I live in Sweden since 20 years back.
@SBrage
@SBrage 7 ай бұрын
I do follow your posts on KZfaq Stefan, it's very spot on and insightful. I have done the reversed journey, living in Sweden for 50+ years, and 4 years ago moved to US Regarding the work environment Sweden vs US: - In Sweden we did have more vacation days, preferably taken in July when the weather is nice But, we didn't have the "personal holidays" that adds apprx a week to the yearly time off - Sick days in Sweden: your get around 80% salary when being sick, in the US you get full pay for being off for the first XX days After a few days you'd need a doctor's note, same in Sweden and US Summarizing, social benefits differs a bit When it comes to work/life balance, it's basically not a big difference In the US employees spread their time off during the year, in Europe there is a tendency to gather it to summer months
@mattiaseriksson4672
@mattiaseriksson4672 3 жыл бұрын
I have lived and worked in the US and i definitely prefer the Swedish way.
@carinmira7659
@carinmira7659 3 жыл бұрын
In some professions, the older you get the more vacation days you have. I work in preschool and since I'm 57 years old now, I have 32 days of vacation.. So a bit over 6 weeks of paid vacation and if I won't take out them all one year, I can save them to next year..
@enkidu77
@enkidu77 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't take 5 weeks vacation, you can save what you have left for later time or even years! If you never take them as vacation, they will pay money instead which is great. BTW, @stefan you can also talk about the parental leave, shorter or longer sick leave, also about VAB (when you take care of sick child) or taking care of older parents, all these things are paid! Unemployment compensation as well.
@vandinhtran9510
@vandinhtran9510 2 жыл бұрын
Your video answered to my questions about work in Sweden. Except one thing: how easy employer can fire employess vs. US? About work-life balance, I totally agree with you.
@Therran91
@Therran91 3 жыл бұрын
I worked in the restaurantbusiness (Sweden) most often 90-100 hours/week, sometimes saturday and sunday of.. And no vacation, at all 😂Some days I worked 20 hours a day.. It was a family business. Couldn't get more pay than the regular 100% hours, even though I worked many more % than that. But... Now I've been sick for year's, trying to get back to work.. Can't wait until I feel better, and can work again. 😊
@Lyrvana
@Lyrvana 3 жыл бұрын
I personally think people in Sweden might work less hours BUT they work intensely when they work. So at the end they can get the job done well! It's like doing stop and go when you sprint
@victoriaapodaca2497
@victoriaapodaca2497 3 жыл бұрын
My absolute dream is to work for Kobalt Music in Stockholm
@olddingo604
@olddingo604 3 жыл бұрын
Fast paced! Well is at productive in the USA? Specially long term!
@markussterky6113
@markussterky6113 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Swedish system is great, but I talked to someone working for a Norwegian company. They have the same number of holidays and similar social care infrastructure. But they also had a model where they split the annual pay into 13 installment so you would get a double monthly pay before your summer holiday so you would always have money to relax and enjoy your time off. I don't know how common this model is in Norway, but I think it is an interesting idea.
@chocolaterambo6608
@chocolaterambo6608 3 жыл бұрын
The sickdays-system in America must be terrible in the corona situation. Do you know if the did any changes?
@l1nus0nl1neproductions9
@l1nus0nl1neproductions9 3 жыл бұрын
Pardon me for asking but i'm curious, have You read ”Utvandrarna” av Wilhelm Moberg?
@poledra1980
@poledra1980 3 жыл бұрын
What was your point? That Sweden had a problem in the 1800s where this system wasn’t in place and there was no social safety net to carry you through crop failures and extreme winters? Not exactly a steady stream of people emigrating from the nordic countries to the US nowadays (and many return when it’s time to start a family and work-life balance and parental leave suddenly looks pretty good)...
@adriananana.7948
@adriananana.7948 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an interesting video, I’m very surprised. America it’s work work work. But I think it makes it competitive and also gives you freedom to get more money if you want.
@larstenfaelt1859
@larstenfaelt1859 3 жыл бұрын
Minimum in Sweden is 5 weeks+ 2 days... There is also a rule that you need to take at least 3 weeks but think this is a bit flexible if there is a need. The employee has all the right to take out 3 consecutive weeks during the period June-August..
@kaalmansur
@kaalmansur 3 жыл бұрын
Would you like to make a comparison video of let´s say the 5-7 biggest cities in S or have you done sth like that? - Very useful information here!
@X15HS
@X15HS 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long does the man who used to work at Wall Street work now in Sweden? as a finance graduate I'm expected to work for more than 80 hours a week (which is normal in this industry) also I'm planing for taking a charter in the field which means I have to study approximately 2 hours daily. basically, I won't have a life for the next 2 years :) By the way, I like your videos.
@Sapphireia
@Sapphireia 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Swede working in China. My standard hours are 9:30am-7pm. With commute and overtime (unpaid), I usually get home at around 9pm. I have Chinese holidays off and 5 paid vacation days per year. It's fine for me at the moment but I couldn't imagine starting a family here with hours like this.
@johannaengman2594
@johannaengman2594 3 жыл бұрын
the klämdag or summer hours are all calculated into the annual amount of work hours. It is usually agreed in the deal with the union (kollektivavtal). So it is not that the company is just giving away free time.
@Damalatorian
@Damalatorian 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the sickness it's common in many jobs in Sweden that you'll get one day without salary and the rest of the days with a reduction of salary (about 80%) during the days you're ill. After some time you'll have to provide a paper from the hospital that comfirms that you're ill -but most common is that the workplace see that if you're sick then you are sick and need to get well. The HR deparpment need a "proof" that you are sick when it goes longer than 5 work days and you need to provide a checkup from the hospital (etc) that shows that you're ill... However our rules have changed during the corona situation that if you're sick you just stay home. If you feel fine you'll still have to stay home for at least two days before returning to work -and you don't need to provide papers that you're sick even if longer than 5 days. For myself I have a job that don't require me to be at the office so I've been working from home for months now and even if I'm feeling a bit down I can still work without risking my colleagues health. I think it's a good system... :) But regarding the vacation I tend to take about three weeks of vacation during the summer and then take the extra two spread out during the rest o the year around christmas and the earster.
@JonasVersen
@JonasVersen 3 жыл бұрын
Never worked in a place where employeers give you the day off on klämdagar (or heard about it) . Typically people use their vacation days on those occasions.
@w0t3rdog
@w0t3rdog 3 жыл бұрын
An interesting thing to consider; Take a countrys GDP, and divide it by avarage work hours per person per year for that country... most countries with stricter work-life balance are more effective than countries that work more.
@Fa2chainz
@Fa2chainz 3 жыл бұрын
Omg! Pretty sure we had a class together in college at WSU.
@mikaelwadstrom5725
@mikaelwadstrom5725 3 жыл бұрын
Just a fact for you to ponder on: apart from rights to 5 weeks played vacation the worktime law in Sweden stipulate 40 hour weeks. On top of that the law allows the employer to demand 25 hrs overtime per month. So if you are working less than that, it’s up to your employer. Unless the employee ”steals” time from his employer. And as for ”klämdag” in my working lifetime experience, I had to add overtime hours to compensate for being free on a ”klämdag”...or any other working day I wanted to be free.
@HenrikJanssonFilipstad
@HenrikJanssonFilipstad 3 жыл бұрын
I have 37,5 hur work week. Six weeks of vacation and allot of 'klämdagar' feels like I don't work one full week during spring time, since there are allot of hollidays then. Like Kristi himmelsfärd dag, I only work Monday and Tuesday, then the rest of the week off, anorher word for 'klämdag' is 'arbetstidsförkortning ' 😉 negotiated by the unions.
@vilmanord30
@vilmanord30 3 жыл бұрын
So firstly I would like to point out that "working hard" as americans like to say is not nessesarily the same thing as working many hours and overtime. In many jobs (especially office ones) its possible to get the same amount of work done in fewer hours than normal if you get more breaks and/or are more rested from more spare time than someone working standard hours or overtime. Secondly while it certainly can be annoying that everything in sweden severly slows down in june-august because of summer vacations there is a flipside to this that it allows students who have their summer break then to more easily find summer jobs during this time. Summer jobs can both provide extra income that all students need but also valuable experiences.
@AbigailSuhruMini
@AbigailSuhruMini 3 жыл бұрын
I actually know 2 people that have been deported for not using Vacation days. But I agree with their concept of having sufficient rest. It’s nice 🧸
@Off3er
@Off3er 3 жыл бұрын
I took 5 weeks + 2 weeks for the kids so i had 7 weeks vacation in total this summer 😅☀️
@AshleyZieman
@AshleyZieman 3 жыл бұрын
Ha i am swedish and work in retail, I work til 8pm sometimes because we are starting to fallow the American system, before we used to close at 6pm at the latest. So not everyone gets off at 3pm.
@underflip2
@underflip2 3 жыл бұрын
America is absolutely terrible when it comes to works IMO. It feels like Americans live to work while in Europe we work to live. Life quality and personal time is really important. I rather work less than get more pay
@farcuf
@farcuf 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy thing is that often times they don't even get paid a living wage.
@reym7140
@reym7140 3 жыл бұрын
@@farcuf As far as i know wages in US are higher on average than in Sweden and most of Europe, except richest countries like Norway and Luxemburg and prices are often lower, except some services, healthcare etc
@Treety1791
@Treety1791 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a good saying that is “don’t work hard, work smart”. That being said, and I’m sure it has been commented already, 6 hour days can be more efficient than 8 hour days at work. Studies have shown that people working 6 hours instead of 8 actually does work more in effective time. As you know, the Fika in Sweden is quite ridiculous and everyone is running for coffee every 1-2 hours, stopping my the colleagues office or station talking smack for 5-10 minutes here and there. That’s more common at a 8-hour day than the 6. I also think having the work/life-balance is also a something that benefits the employer just as much as the employee. Which is why most people in Sweden also has about 2000kr to spend on “healthcare” but meaning like getting a massage, gym membership or the tennis club fee as an example. It allows the employee to work out and stay healthy meaning less sick days which results in more gross profit for the company. That being said, unfortunately I do also believe that the younger generations are exploiting the system more so now than ever. My grandfather worked between 16-65 years of age and had a total of 6 sick days. Now 6 days is almost common to be sick at one occasion. I just think the good old work ethic that some still does have and gets from their parents are going away with the vast majority of younger people.
@danielmalm3601
@danielmalm3601 3 жыл бұрын
where whould you be standing at doing a practice work experience around middle sweden?
@michaelamneus9997
@michaelamneus9997 Жыл бұрын
Such insightful thoughts. Michael ,Gothenburg
@andreag983
@andreag983 3 жыл бұрын
In my workplace - Winter worked longer days to get shorter summer workdays. Do not know anyone that works shorter days both winter and summer. We are equally sufficient and deliver better quality in our projects
@hn3864
@hn3864 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the work life balance is so much better in Sweden
@jordikeoni
@jordikeoni 3 жыл бұрын
First off, cool Aloha Shirt...lovin' it! I've heard about Sweden's work/life balance. I wish the United States would be more into that type of lifestyle, but this country is all about "living to work," not "work to live." At least Hawai'i has a more laid-back attitude when it comes to working too much.
@yiweisun4449
@yiweisun4449 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I really really like this video!!! And I want to talk about the Chinese work- life situation. What is it like to live in China after living 4 and a half years in Spain? Work, work, work ... Noise, noise, noise ... Traffic jam, traffic jam, traffic jam ... Stress, stress…. Alone. Goodbye, Madrid. (crying on the subway to Madrid-Barajas airport) Hello, Beijing. It's very weird, right? A Chinese woman feels very lonely in her own country and suffers from depression. Well that girl is me. (It was never embarrassing to admit that I was depressed.) Who am I? Well, I am a "weird" girl, like a volcano, like a cat, like a super happy goat ... and, in fact, I don't know who I am, I always have that question, Who am I? ? Well, let's get back to the point, why did I return to China after living so many years in Spain? (... and also, it is a magnificent country, which taught me what life is, what empathy is, and what love is ...) Well, the answer is very simple, it is for work. After I graduated from my master, I had a very good opportunity to work for a larger mobile company in China. And that work was sent to Latin American countries. As I am a girl who likes to explore new things, so that opportunity for me was great. (* I mean fucking mother ...). At the time, I thought I was the luckiest and happiest person in the world. But I guessed the beginning but not the end. The result is, that gigantic company told me and other interviewees that the positions you were applying for no longer existed ... and at that time, I did not have a visa to continue working in Spain because I rejected some Madrid companies. And from that moment on, I had a very serious depression. I started to doubt myself. Who I am? Who I am? Who I am? (At that time, my best friends in the world had helped me a lot to cheer me up, thank you very much !!! my loves, really.) And so, I took the plane to my homeland ... I don't want to say that living in China is a horrible thing, but just in my case, I'm not happy living in that society (especially in Beijing) so stressed, nervous ... but for many people , they love living in China (Beijing). Now I am going to describe how my normal day is: every day I get up around 7:30, and at 8:30 I have to go to catch the bus to the office, around 9:40 I arrive at the company (here I want you comment something, well, look, normally from my house to the office, taking the bus only takes about 10 minutes to get there, but because of that bad traffic jam, every day I need an hour and ten minutes to get there, and that makes me feel very tired and nervous). This is not over, do you know what time I get off work? Normally between 8:00 pm, 8:30 pm or 9:15 pm, and on top of that I have to work every month twice on Saturday ... in China that type of work is called 996. And if unfortunately you are ill, go to the hospital to leave, the company would withhold your salary. Some colleagues work overtime, but they don't pay the fucking company a penny. And that's the status quo for Chinese companies. And Eos makes me very ashamed, because I don't see anything of human nature and social empathy. And the only thing that makes me feel better in that city is learning languages, Spanish, English and French, which makes me feel alive. Because I don't want to get into that society one millimeter. Because I don't see human nature. What I see is how everyone turns into robots and nobody resisted. Nobody from that society is going to say that, because they are afraid of losing their job or other things, so I will be the first to eat tomatoes, I will defend myself! Believe in what you want and fight to make it possible.
@veronicag.805
@veronicag.805 3 жыл бұрын
Depends totally of what you're working with. If you want any kind of career, start a business or earn more, you have to work a lot harder than the normal Joe. Especially in the beginning. Everything is about what your ambitions are. I think without any knowledge really, not my area ....they're working really hard in the trading business in sweden to if they want to be among the best. Especially in the beginning to get in to the business. It's competition here too for the most popular jobs. But one thing we know (also company owners), for the long run, it's not good for a persons health (we have sick leave, but you're not payed for the first 2 days) and not good for the company (burned out people is a cost) if people work too much. People tend to not work smart and effectively if they are tired. And in the end it's not about how many hours a day you work it's about what you get done during the time that's important ;-)... and for your example, you happens to have a good boss.
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