American VS European (UK)

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OneLonelyFarmer

OneLonelyFarmer

6 жыл бұрын

This video is about American VS Europian (UK) for this application this hitch is far superior.
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@paulkelly1994
@paulkelly1994 6 жыл бұрын
Usually there is a mirror fitted to the back window of the tractor to allow you to see the pick up hitch when coupling a trailer , surprised the 7530 doesn’t have one
@jeffjefferson3364
@jeffjefferson3364 5 жыл бұрын
It has a hydraulic ram to extend the hitch out
@MrGuvEuroman
@MrGuvEuroman 6 жыл бұрын
Always used a hook and ring, strongest system and quickest, I'm from uk.
@pienviljelija8236
@pienviljelija8236 2 жыл бұрын
A much stronger than this thing, best solution. Im from finland.
@matttaylor4758
@matttaylor4758 6 жыл бұрын
looks like that hitch should be mounted on top of the old hitch instead of under?
@subwarpspeed
@subwarpspeed 6 жыл бұрын
Sure looks like it and it would create a more level line of the trailer drawbar.
@hturbo1007
@hturbo1007 6 жыл бұрын
I've used these fast hitches for years. The more you use them, the more money you save.
@bessertfarms4321
@bessertfarms4321 6 жыл бұрын
yeah the baler might weigh 12 ton but most of the weight is on the tandem axles there probably only a few ton on the draw bar
@SteveHolsten
@SteveHolsten 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that too.
@Hesston4860s
@Hesston4860s 6 жыл бұрын
The baler might weight 12 ton but the nose weight at the hitch will only be around 3 - 3.5 ton. I know people over here in the uk hauling grain trailers weighing 25 ton gross with 7530’s and they piss it !. It’s all about the nose weight !!!!!!!!!
@johnty4304
@johnty4304 6 жыл бұрын
plus he bolts the other hitch to the drawbar anyway so whats the point in mentioning it
@georgealmeida3163
@georgealmeida3163 6 жыл бұрын
Bessert farms your clueless.
@whatyousaidbud
@whatyousaidbud 6 жыл бұрын
Hesston4860s so your only 6.78 tons over loaded then, let alone how much over your 31 ton train weight you are.....brilliant!
@timerfarms113
@timerfarms113 6 жыл бұрын
I have a neighbor who has a similar hitch for chopper wagons. They work slick just have to be careful they don't roll!
@BornRandy62
@BornRandy62 6 жыл бұрын
I remember 4 months of pain while healing from harvest season. Yanking tounges around to line up with hitches. Yes you can extend the tongue sometimes 18 inches but there is always an alignment of an inch sideways. Moving the front wheels with 9 thousand pounds of weight on them was an issue. 2 years of using this system resulted in no painful injuries to my shoulders. I used the safety pin while on public highways or roadways. Not so much field to yard travel. The kind of pin with the wrap around capture clip works real well. I put the supplied pin with separate spring clip on the planter box rack as a spare.
@ardcost1
@ardcost1 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, just stumbled across your video, love the 7530. all the “quick hitch” or hook hitch’s in Ireland/UK are only rated for 3 ton to remove liability from the manufacturers. They can hold probably over 20ton. Been pulling a 14 ton excavator plus buckets on a low loader with them for years as have many others. Still holding strong.
@adamsandrew5587
@adamsandrew5587 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Wes. Why does the hook on the tractor mount on the underside of the draw bar? It looks like there are two lugs to create a channel to sit on top of the draw bar and prevent a lateral/twisting motion. Perhaps they are for some other reason
@rdnqds
@rdnqds 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Adams you are correct about the two lugs, they are supposed to straddle the drawbar from the top. He is using a heavy cat drawbar that is extremely wide and judging by the clip it wouldn’t fit, he is also using it for light tongue weight applications so it should not be an issue for him
@rukinaa
@rukinaa 6 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the never ending "who has the biggest pecker" contest between each and every nation/country/city/whatever else. This hitch isn't better nor worse. It is excellent for what it is made for. Quick hooking and unhooking of those types or hitches. Each hitch has it's application, doesn't mean europe is better nor that america is.
@Tas1962b
@Tas1962b 6 жыл бұрын
The best comment here.
@ramshackleshack751
@ramshackleshack751 3 жыл бұрын
Ron jeremy
@gregkoenig9200
@gregkoenig9200 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf mine is bigger than yours
@jjp1117
@jjp1117 2 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear America is always better
@zachsheffee8458
@zachsheffee8458 2 жыл бұрын
That hitch better around the farm! It’s not comparable to that at all! Because there are times when one country has better farm equipment than the other! Instead of saying it was a negative competition. It would be helpful to have friendly competition to invent & innovate things!
@gonerydin4225
@gonerydin4225 6 жыл бұрын
Those hitches are fantastic. Been using them for years. Definitely a good idea to use the safety pin out on the road.
@ventrac4500z
@ventrac4500z 6 жыл бұрын
I used the agri speed hich for years and we always bolted it directly to the drawbar we didn't use that little adapter but each to there own don't make me any difference how you do it
@michaelscott7128
@michaelscott7128 6 жыл бұрын
Wes, the 3 point linkage was designed by an irish man we just though we would make it better with the pickup hitch, it's handy. :)
@paulfreeman2259
@paulfreeman2259 6 жыл бұрын
hook is better of the two , but thats just me , depends on whats best for what your doing
@moiwilliams170
@moiwilliams170 6 жыл бұрын
i dont know about john deer but on our massey 390 and 4355 we have a mirror on the back window,and when you open the window the mirror goes with it ,and you can see the hitch in the mirror.
@donvoll2580
@donvoll2580 6 жыл бұрын
Good day This one is alot of heavier, yrs. ago they had snapper. Did that not work? Thanks
@byronbielenberg6669
@byronbielenberg6669 6 жыл бұрын
What would you think of, instead of the cable release, a small hydraulic cylinder to operate to lock/release arm? Just plug into an SCV.
@fowletm1992
@fowletm1992 6 жыл бұрын
Byron Bielenberg KISS
@TheTomco11
@TheTomco11 6 жыл бұрын
How about a bowden cable like a bicycle brake? Less risk of it getting snagged on something and dumping your trailer, and you can route it and tie it up neatly
@volvobm26549
@volvobm26549 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. Here in Norway we use the so called UK hitch, and i will say that when you have used it some times, it dont take that long to connect a trailer, not any longer than the time you used on the US hitch. And i think the UK hitch is safer to use, because on the locking of the trailer hitch. But the US hitch looks very Nice. We can’t all like the same things😎
@keiths-teeth
@keiths-teeth 6 жыл бұрын
Yep and the bulk of the weight is closer to the tractors axle. Less to go wrong just lean out the cab a little. Once the hook clicks into place its secure but can still pivot
@ChakatNightspark
@ChakatNightspark 6 жыл бұрын
what about installing like a backup camera, like my friend did with his. He had problems seeing it clearly like you were/are and decided to put a backup camera and it has helped ALOT for him
@worstweightlosschannelever
@worstweightlosschannelever 6 жыл бұрын
I hope they have plenty of stock, that hitch is awesome! I wouldnt be surprised if they get some real pressure on sales for it.
@agrifarmingireland1604
@agrifarmingireland1604 6 жыл бұрын
There's usually a mirror on they mudguards of tractors in Ireland so you can always see the hook and with your fast hitch you have a lot of work to do if you need to use the 3 pt hitch you have to unbolt the drawbar which takes a lot of time. With the eu hitch the drawbar is out of the way and the minute u take off a trailer you don't have to modify it to use the 3pt hitch. I will admit that hitch is slightly faster that the EU hitch but it wouldn't suit the trailers that are used in Ireland
@jamesmooreism
@jamesmooreism 6 жыл бұрын
Yea. Plus in Ireland you'll have to get down to plug in the lights. Brakes and hydraulics anyway so you'll be getting down either way haha
@johnnyasus86
@johnnyasus86 6 жыл бұрын
Agri farming Ireland what an ignorant comment. But funny at the same time, because someone from Ireland said it haha Ireland what a joke.
@johnnyasus86
@johnnyasus86 6 жыл бұрын
brian176 haha okay, good to know.
@jackplant9232
@jackplant9232 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of tractors have mirrors on the back window, so when open they allow you to see the hitch
@verteup
@verteup 6 жыл бұрын
Who the fuck puts lights, brakes and shit on a hay trailer? Y'all do that in Ireland because your overseers say you have to. Cuz "muh safety" mate. Fuck outta here with that pansy ass bullshit. America is the breadbasket of the fucking planet. Think of us next time you're shining your masters shoes.
@adamleonard8904
@adamleonard8904 6 жыл бұрын
The only problem I see is no brakes on the wagon it can easily roll away if your not paying attention
@Rigge1988
@Rigge1988 6 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask how your fast-couple hitch fairs on a trailer with 15 tons on the drawbar but I realized it ain't gonna work for that application.
@conormccarthy3500
@conormccarthy3500 6 жыл бұрын
Also it’s a lot of extra work putting on and taking off the quick hitch off the drawbar of the tractor when you need an implement for the link arms etc
@iowadairyboysFarms
@iowadairyboysFarms 6 жыл бұрын
I have wanted those hitches for years.
@tuba7084
@tuba7084 6 жыл бұрын
I think they show them at some farm shows and I know I have seen them demonstrated at the Clay County Fair. Not sure if they still have a booth there or not. Always thought they were neat but expensive. That is why we never purchased them.
@Boodlemania
@Boodlemania 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've wanted one since the first time I saw one. I'm just too tight to buy one. LOL
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 6 жыл бұрын
when you buy one you will wonder why you waited so long
@iowadairyboysFarms
@iowadairyboysFarms 6 жыл бұрын
Most likely. I think you sent so many people to there website that it crashed it. When you click on the link it says bandwidth limit exceeded
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 6 жыл бұрын
oh really?
@augustreil
@augustreil 6 жыл бұрын
It almost looks like that piece on the tractor should be on top of the tow bar ?
@hturbo1007
@hturbo1007 6 жыл бұрын
august you are right, because everyone I know that uses this hitch, has it on top of the drawbar. The only reason I think Wes put it on the bottom is maybe the drawbar might be too wide.
@andyv4585
@andyv4585 6 жыл бұрын
for what he's using it for(assuming only wagons) it should be fine but anything with tongue weight i'd think it should be on top
@augustreil
@augustreil 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm sure he's OK. Always fun watching !
@andyv4585
@andyv4585 6 жыл бұрын
he really should consider switching it around tho. the wagon side of the hitch has that little stand which seems like it sits pretty low when connected and could catch on something. with the tractor side of it on top of the draw bar he'd gain that little extra ground clearance. have a feeling he'll learn that the hard way soon enough
@MrVscommy
@MrVscommy 6 жыл бұрын
What if you were on a slight angle to the hitch say a 30 deg or less will it still hitch up
@mgs771
@mgs771 6 жыл бұрын
how will that work on soft ground with 5 ton load, also that longggg as draw bar wont go around our roads
@shanemurphy277
@shanemurphy277 6 жыл бұрын
In fairness both systems work well but the only disadvantage to the us style is that there cannot be any tounge weight which would render it useless to us over the pond
@DillenB93
@DillenB93 6 жыл бұрын
I was kinda thinking the same thing, I don't think that would hold up for long hooking up like a 15-20 cubic grain trailer, let along pulling it at full load.
@brygry
@brygry 6 жыл бұрын
Also cannot be used with a PTO implement, like that big baler he was going on about in the beginning.
@verteup
@verteup 6 жыл бұрын
Fermin404 what do you think a fully loaded hay trailer in the US weighs?
@DillenB93
@DillenB93 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying it doesn't work with lighter loads, as hay or one of them smaller grain trailers with a whole in the bottom. Just a hassle having to switch between two hooks.
@Northern_Farmer
@Northern_Farmer 6 жыл бұрын
That would work good for our hay wagon but that’s about it...
@MrTheBigOx
@MrTheBigOx 6 жыл бұрын
Northern farmer yep I agree, couldn’t pick up a draw bar with my weight on it. It also took at least 30 mins to set the tractor up for it.
@andydonegal
@andydonegal 6 жыл бұрын
How do you put on the pro shaft with that thing In the way
@RobertWilliams82-22
@RobertWilliams82-22 5 жыл бұрын
What about on a single axel implement or with out a tractor with a hydraulic tongue?
@alexveldhuis6004
@alexveldhuis6004 6 жыл бұрын
We moved from Friesland (NL) to the UK and our Ford 3000 had a hitch mounted above the axle, as was common in The Netherlands at the time. We were told it was illegal in the UK and so switched to an under axle one off a 5000. I am much more familiar with the pick up hitch type as used in the UK. It should be noted that European farmers are far more likely to used trailers that have front axles that steer, while UK farmers tend to use trailers that are carried on the hitch. This hitch demonstrated is great and easily visible, but way too far back for the types of trailer used where plenty of weight rests on the axle. for 4wheel trailers like shown here, it will be fine. Technically you still have to get off the tractor to hook up your lights and air brakes/ hydraulic lines, but yeah sure hitches up quick. No use on heavy trailers in my view.
@verteup
@verteup 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Veldhuis we don't use brakes on ag trailers. Or lights. None of that nanny state bullshit in America. What do you suppose that 40' trailer in the video.will weight when fully loaded with hay?
@dvoz9023
@dvoz9023 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Veldhuis Hà ouwe fries, hoe hait dan in Amerika?
@alexveldhuis6004
@alexveldhuis6004 6 жыл бұрын
Hallo, ik weet niet wat 'hait' is, sorry.
@richardsmith2499
@richardsmith2499 5 жыл бұрын
Alex Veldhuis "
@andrewjones-productions
@andrewjones-productions 3 жыл бұрын
@@verteup "Nanny state bullshit"....hmmm. Since when has making yourself visible to other road users on single-track country lanes been 'nanny state bullshit' I cannot fathom. We have very short dark winter days and visibility to other road users helps to prevent accidents. We prefer to engage in prevention rather than having an excuse to go to court and sue somebody for something as stupid as hot coffee being hot. Now that is really 'nanny state bullshit'. People in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones.
@muddpuppy07
@muddpuppy07 6 жыл бұрын
Just require everyone to install the safety pin before going on the road. 2 minutes job of putting in the pin could save you a bunch of money later if something was to happen.
@muddpuppy07
@muddpuppy07 6 жыл бұрын
Take someone like his dad who doesn't get around to easily anymore yeah 2 minutes. Take Tim or Wes then yeah be less than a minute and back in the can and rolling down the road.
@sammypatton8726
@sammypatton8726 6 жыл бұрын
BIlly the SMall Bong thorton from india shut up with your stupid comments on everybody honestly no one cares for your opinion or your bullshit so be a lamb and shut up.
@quintinjamerson9944
@quintinjamerson9944 6 жыл бұрын
Bryan Cole a safety pin is only a secondary safety item....one locked by the spring loaded hitch theres no Letting loose
@samponurmentaus6727
@samponurmentaus6727 6 жыл бұрын
But that thing needs to be detached when you use your 3-point hitch. And that can not take any load from the trailer to the tractor wheels. It's simply way too far back from the rear axle. We here use only trailers wich give two to three ton load on trackor wheels to increase traction. Way I see it that US is just stuck in the middle age just because you guys had to be so hard headed. If hydraulic hitch was invented in US, everyone would use it. But hay 20 years from now, you will hop on the train of progress with us ;-)
@JeromeBill7718
@JeromeBill7718 6 жыл бұрын
maybe he doesn't want to install it in the mud but the asphalt suits him fine.
@brandonfast4451
@brandonfast4451 6 жыл бұрын
Olf do you want to sell the cat 4 hammer strap off the 8530? I'm looking for one.
@ladyphelps3406
@ladyphelps3406 6 жыл бұрын
OK then what if the trailer has a rigid draw bar and the trailer is under weight what dose it do then just bend the alignment system can't see it working then
@CoppiceCapers
@CoppiceCapers 6 жыл бұрын
Every tool has its application, personally I can’t see that hitch system working in the uk. 90% of all modern equipment in the uk uses the pick up hitch with the hook not the drawbar and there is no pin to line up. That hitch you’ve got there wouldn’t work when you’ve got a full 16t trailer with most of the weight on the tong, yes if it had a dolly you’d be fine, but you loose all the traction on the back tires then. And once you’ve used the uk style for a few months you can judge where the pick up needs to be. Personally I don’t have the push out option and I find it fine. No maybe not as quick but safer because you have to lift the arms to the very top before the trailer can be disconnected. There are horses for courses and I don’t doubt that your hitch is much better for you. But it doesn’t work for everyone and there no way that you can say every uk and Irish operates is wrong for not saying your way is better, just like we can’t say ours is better
@Descorath
@Descorath 6 жыл бұрын
It's a bit wrong to say that most of the weight is on the tong. There is a 3tonn limit on the hitch in most tractors (afaik), only larger ones having one that is rated for 4.2 or something. So a trailer is often rated with getting close to that limit when fully loaded. And even empty having probably some 500+kg on the tong. I would still argue that the pick-up hitch is better than the standard US ones, as I see no real benefit of the US ones except it being pure mechanical.
@arfarms5711
@arfarms5711 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Cooke well said
@brygry
@brygry 6 жыл бұрын
I just want to see that hitch get ripped off and thrown back in the shop when the farmer realises he has a PTO to connect.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 6 жыл бұрын
"OMG, not a PTO!!!"
@dafyddmorris4954
@dafyddmorris4954 6 жыл бұрын
Descorath there's only a limit when picking up the trailer due the connecting rods are small ones u connect the trailer nearly half the weight is on the pickup hitch just that the hooks are strong enough to hold the weight and the rods aren't
@Budd56
@Budd56 6 жыл бұрын
You are spoiling your dad, good job on that 👍👍👍👍
@craigschofield64
@craigschofield64 6 жыл бұрын
Budd 56 Anyone who has lived to Wes's dad's age & farmed his entire life, deserves to be pampered and spoiled by their children as much as possible because they have earned it (imo) 😊
@norman7179
@norman7179 6 жыл бұрын
Wes has a lot today because Papa planted the seed years ago. Time to enjoy the fruit of his labor.
@omejugo1
@omejugo1 6 жыл бұрын
Works fast! great for pulling in the field. are there any rules about trailer brakes for going down the road? P.S nobody in mainland europe is using the uk hitch we use ringfeders.
@shadycreekdairy1627
@shadycreekdairy1627 6 жыл бұрын
Do the have a limit if you have hilly ground or are they heavy duty enough to handle that?
@joebarton2700
@joebarton2700 6 жыл бұрын
Wes, I'm not wanting to cause an argument because the fact is that we use different methods in different countries and that isn't likely to change. I'd just like to make a couple of points. Firstly, speed comes with practice, so the series of movements that you say took a minute to lower the hook, with practice can be done in a matter of seconds. The same goes with judging when the hook is in the ring. It's just a case of knowing your machine and practicing. Secondly, your concerns about strength are unfounded. I know from experience that one of those 7530 pick up hitches will manage a fully loaded trailer topping 36 tons, which according to my maths is about 81000 U.S. pounds. (That's at the top speed of 56kph on a none too smooth surface) Finally, the reason we like the pick up hitch (and its variants), apart from being quick, is it's safer. There's no need for someone to come between a tractor and unsecured trailer to drop a pin in and risk getting crushed. Also, because the hitch lifts the front end of the trailer, some of the weight is transferred onto the back end of the tractor. This not only increases traction, it allows for safer braking. I'm not trying to teach you to suck eggs, you know your business and it's up to you what you do with it. But please don't knock the systems we use in the UK, they're safe, proven and reliable. Cheers
@andywilkinson3792
@andywilkinson3792 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Barton hi Joe and if you see most off there trailers thay ar all swivel trailers. So thay don't have the Wight on there draw bar thay ar just doing a strat pull all the time. So if we put that on ar standard trailers u can see big problem to much on the drawbar . The way we have hours are better cos brings Wight in on back axel.
@joebarton2700
@joebarton2700 6 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm aware, trailers in the U.S. don't need to be braked. In that case, having the weight on the tractor, and only having the one pivot will make braking much safer
@bcubed72
@bcubed72 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Barton That's not true, at least for highway towing any real weight. In my state, once you go over 3,000# trailer weight, all axles need to be braked, and you need breakaway brakes, to boot.
@joebarton2700
@joebarton2700 6 жыл бұрын
bcubed72 I stand corrected. Thanks for letting me know.
@andywilkinson3792
@andywilkinson3792 6 жыл бұрын
bcubed72 over here all are trailers have brakes now but have trailer closer to tractor I find it lot better less jack knifing ok we do use artic trailers over here as well i uesd to Hall hay with them. But its hard to back up as well cos of extra turning point but like every thing it's the way u have grown up with the tractors and trailers wich u just grow with. I'm not saying what wes as there its great if u moving stuff around quickly around yards but just long distance pulling it not for me. But in UK we got lots more rules to go by. Now. In . U.s it's different rules in different counties. . Even the tractor wes is using there is from over here are trailers have to have brakes on them.
@sebastianhuddlestone597
@sebastianhuddlestone597 6 жыл бұрын
1: spec a mirror on the rear window, you can see the hitch perfectly 2: how do you use a pto machine with that quick hitch 3: it wont work with a fixed drawbar full off grain as it wont lift it up Uropean is better you just need a mirror and a good opperator aswell a a ball hitch not a hook
@SuperSparkie123
@SuperSparkie123 6 жыл бұрын
In the uk we also run big balers and the drawbar hitch copes well with them, most of the weight of the krone is in the axles and only a small amount will be on the drawbar.
@MrSerbian012
@MrSerbian012 6 жыл бұрын
Can enibody explain what is bushhold when harvesting? I'm not from in USA or UK.
@jonathandalton5534
@jonathandalton5534 6 жыл бұрын
We Have Hitch Cameras on all of our Tractors.
@FarmallFanatic
@FarmallFanatic 6 жыл бұрын
They will still argue with you smh
@2cylinderfarmer
@2cylinderfarmer 6 жыл бұрын
Love speed hitches! Guys around my area use them on their silage boxes (those that still pull their boxes behind the chopper.) I worked for a guy that had them. Yes they are a time saver!
@davidclitheroe4532
@davidclitheroe4532 6 жыл бұрын
What happens if you want to use the 3 point linkage? Doesn't the hitch get in the way of the hitched implement?
@MineDriverLP
@MineDriverLP 6 жыл бұрын
Well even in Germany we have a completely different technic, wich works beautiful, i've never seen such a Hook (UK) before, and i was wondered about the American technic, i like this idea
@FarmersCode
@FarmersCode 3 жыл бұрын
Piton fix or k80?
@OllysFarmLtd
@OllysFarmLtd 6 жыл бұрын
Using the European/UK telescopic hitch is a skill, once you master it it’s easily as quick as the ‘agri speed hitch’ and what you do is extend the hitch out with the hook and lean out slightly and you can easily see the hook, practice makes perfect, also having the drawbar extended with the agri hitch, means it would be more likely to lift the tractor in the air with a heavy load, I really don’t like having the cord dangling around when all it has to do is catch a link arm and there goes your load down then hill 😂
@jakewidger1226
@jakewidger1226 6 жыл бұрын
Oliver Roberts also i doubt that it would stick our rigid trailers as they can be heavy to lift even with a short picup hitch
@richiefrankland9471
@richiefrankland9471 6 жыл бұрын
Oliver Roberts plus that little poxy stand would have to be changed on a ridged trailer to it would snap clean off and so would the rest of the hitch
@kristopherhollon5852
@kristopherhollon5852 6 жыл бұрын
Wtf are u talking about man john dear tractors and Cats are the best the hitch design doesn't matter. U should keep most attachments on not remove exchange do anything with it . If u can afford it otherwise its all just the same destroy the tractor
@jackplant9232
@jackplant9232 6 жыл бұрын
Oliver Roberts agreed, I am on the short side (5'6") but I can use it with ease
@donalcallaghan1393
@donalcallaghan1393 6 жыл бұрын
Oliver Roberts I’d want to be at it for years👍👍💪💪
@jackfagg5753
@jackfagg5753 6 жыл бұрын
what if you have a fixed trailer (non articulated) so the draw bar doesn't float?
@russellpetrie119
@russellpetrie119 3 жыл бұрын
how much down force weight can those speed hitches take because alot of uk farmers dont use four wheel trailors now
@andykane439
@andykane439 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah 50K with a 22ton redrock see how it holds 😂
@feidhelmmagee3665
@feidhelmmagee3665 4 жыл бұрын
22ton redrock som jab
@killianmurphy8527
@killianmurphy8527 4 жыл бұрын
This quick hitched he’s praising her don’t look like they would support much weight
@AlextheDutchDairyfarmer
@AlextheDutchDairyfarmer 6 жыл бұрын
We don't use either of those hitches. AND WE'RE KEEPING IT THAT WAY!😐😅 I'm so sorry that I got myself into this discussion
@jeffreyhollink985
@jeffreyhollink985 6 жыл бұрын
Alex the Dutch Dairyfarmer nee gellukig niet idd hz slijtage as en gek met die dingen 😂
@nickflipsen9533
@nickflipsen9533 6 жыл бұрын
I'm dutch to, and we use rockinger hitches that the trucks have, it works also super fast
@jeffreyhollink985
@jeffreyhollink985 6 жыл бұрын
gewoon en zwaaihaak trekbek k80 kogel of zoals wij zelf gemaakte trekplaten die op de plek van de zwaai haak zitten zijn zwaarder gebouwt dan die zwaai haak van 8530😂
@AlextheDutchDairyfarmer
@AlextheDutchDairyfarmer 6 жыл бұрын
Laten we ook niet de remmen en de wegverlichting vergeten 😎
@SteveHolsten
@SteveHolsten 6 жыл бұрын
Alex, what's wrong with the hitch?
@blobby273
@blobby273 6 жыл бұрын
what stops that bouncing out when your going down the road at full tilt . surely that will fall off
@jeremysmits9784
@jeremysmits9784 6 жыл бұрын
I have used them before they are awesome for chopping. I do know some people who have welded pipes for extensions on tractor mounted part of it to make it easier to hook up. It’s especially nice with the extension on a hitch mounted on the pull type chopper
@HenkAnnieNaald
@HenkAnnieNaald 6 жыл бұрын
Seems so strange that there are no brakes or lights to hook op
@brodykoenigs9006
@brodykoenigs9006 6 жыл бұрын
Most US trailer brakes are just surge brakes. When the tongue slides forward as the tractor slows down it activates the brakes on the trailer.
@dehavenfamilyfarm
@dehavenfamilyfarm 6 жыл бұрын
Most agricultural trailers/wagons over here do not have brakes on them.
@HenkAnnieNaald
@HenkAnnieNaald 6 жыл бұрын
Ah OK. Makes more sense having surge brakes compared to no brakes when towing a lot of heavy bales. What about lights then?
@dreambuilderkmg
@dreambuilderkmg 6 жыл бұрын
KoenH most ag trailers just run orange triangle "smv" signs, no lights required
@quintinjamerson9944
@quintinjamerson9944 6 жыл бұрын
KoenH it's a tractor no need for them as long as you have a slow moving vehicle emblem
@TWLML420
@TWLML420 6 жыл бұрын
Your lack of air tool oil is disturbing lol!
@m1cxf
@m1cxf 6 жыл бұрын
Typical farmer when it comes to oiling or greasing anything. The motto is, "When it is new, it doesn't need it and when it is old, it isn't worth it". Then start screaming poverty.
@brrebrresen1367
@brrebrresen1367 6 жыл бұрын
god good... sound like the absolute opposite of Norwegian farmers. here it's like like "it's says add xx amount of oil\grease once a week, lets triple that and to it twice a week" not unusual for tractors here to have an inch of hardened grease on top of the back axle after 10 year of use. on the note its nice because nothing rusts stuck, downside is that you need to clean it to be able to repair anything...
@Bambinohead1
@Bambinohead1 6 жыл бұрын
What width are those super singles on trailer?
@paul.maplelandscaping1004
@paul.maplelandscaping1004 6 жыл бұрын
I put a mirror fitted to a suction cup on my back window, l can hook up to a trailer in seconds, still got to get out to couple up lines though .
@onlygazza
@onlygazza 6 жыл бұрын
You go down the road and pull that cord by accident, look out !
@mf390
@mf390 6 жыл бұрын
I guess the European design is suited to a more skilled driver...
@genesederlin5222
@genesederlin5222 6 жыл бұрын
mf390 no skill on the Panzy farm
@jeffreyhollink985
@jeffreyhollink985 6 жыл бұрын
mf390 no bigger trailers
@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9
@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9 6 жыл бұрын
its not a pissing contest its to allow his dad to hook and unhook hay wagons faster and it works its not a way to shit on anybody else his dads knees are getting bad and now he can hook and go without getting in and out of the tractor
@pyroman6000
@pyroman6000 6 жыл бұрын
The Euro design is suited for European equipment, and they way you farm over there, this is suited for the equipment we use over here. Simple as that.
@helgethaysen7830
@helgethaysen7830 6 жыл бұрын
No they are approved for road use. We have some similar the Natohitch they are not approved for civil use.
@jcorryeng.412
@jcorryeng.412 6 жыл бұрын
How would that Bergman speed hitch work on the likes of a baler? Would the long bar on the trailer side not interfere with a P.T.O. shaft?
@adambailey9773
@adambailey9773 6 жыл бұрын
What about feeding the cable through a small tube or pipe up to the cab? Something like some soft copper pipe just keep the bends slight.
@thomaseversden909
@thomaseversden909 6 жыл бұрын
It’s European bro
@FMurphy
@FMurphy 6 жыл бұрын
Do you not have brakes and lights on your trailers?
6 жыл бұрын
Fergal Murphy they are not required in the US, you just need your hazarders (blinkers) on the tractor.
@neb4x4
@neb4x4 6 жыл бұрын
And a slow moving vehicle sign. (Orange triangle)
6 жыл бұрын
neb4x4 I forgot about the triangle
@bcubed72
@bcubed72 6 жыл бұрын
Fergal Murphy You can do whatever you want on your own property. It's only once you use a public road that they can get you. (There's also a "farm use" exemption in most states, for slow-moving vehicles within a certain distance of the farm.)
6 жыл бұрын
bcubed72 it's same same here in Ireland, only when you go on a public road do we need tail lights, brake lights and indicators.
@RichardJaehnigen
@RichardJaehnigen 6 жыл бұрын
So what about hooking two wagons together? You gotta rig all wagons with that type of hitch as well?
@jonathanselfridge8330
@jonathanselfridge8330 6 жыл бұрын
I by the way would like to see you reverse part that trailer around here we don’t have the room for trailer like that we have bigger one all wheels on the rear and solid draw bars to reverse around tight corners lol
@valleyboy2099
@valleyboy2099 6 жыл бұрын
Your wagon gona come off wen you hit a bump in the road i bet you.cant wait for the vid on that lol,and look all that bale twine out in the rain lol
@johnnymossville
@johnnymossville 6 жыл бұрын
The Euro comments are why we left, no other way to get to the moon or invent computers or the lightbulb, or the telephone,..... . I'm kidding!!!!
@user-ks5ff
@user-ks5ff 6 жыл бұрын
Who invented the first computer? phone?
@tutekohe1361
@tutekohe1361 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, it was german engineers who invented large rockets, a scotsman invented the phone, a british engineer invented the first computer and an italian the incandescent light bulb, but otherwise you're right!
@user-ks5ff
@user-ks5ff 6 жыл бұрын
lol, I knew I wouldn't be able to get him to actually research this stuff
@vikinglord73
@vikinglord73 6 жыл бұрын
Actually the first anologue computer is over 2000 years old and was built by the Greeks. It's called the Antikythera mechanism
@28081481
@28081481 4 жыл бұрын
Bloody ripper mate!! Thanks for making this video. It’s one of the biggest things that pisses me off every day is hitching things up. I’m buying some for sure
@nikolai502
@nikolai502 6 жыл бұрын
First problem is because of deer my hook hitch on the fendt 724 is visible without much leaning and this uk hitch sticks out
@TheCaretaker555
@TheCaretaker555 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you called it united Kingdom and not Europe 😂 I would have Unsubscribed otherwise lol.... I'm British not European..... Great vid mate
@DerUnbbekante
@DerUnbbekante 6 жыл бұрын
Well UK = Europe =/= EU Sorry for that...
@janbriege102
@janbriege102 6 жыл бұрын
and you are actually proud about this fact .....
@leoborn4013
@leoborn4013 6 жыл бұрын
Neil Roberts You are European. With or without brexit bullshit
@poussey5748
@poussey5748 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah your still European
@alanirishkelly6704
@alanirishkelly6704 6 жыл бұрын
Your living in uk in Europe son .....arrogant Brits you’re empire fell long time ago but when you leave Europe you have all that manufacturing to sell to India .......
@aidankeogh8426
@aidankeogh8426 5 жыл бұрын
Once you get used to the pick up hitch we have in Europe it is pretty fast to hook up to a trailer
@lml6.653
@lml6.653 6 жыл бұрын
what happens when the bailer is backed up to a wall in a barn... it just smashes into the wall when it drifts back a couple feet when you back into it to hook it up? lol
@cs-su9ko
@cs-su9ko 6 жыл бұрын
for in field use its a great system on the road the trailer will want to push you on the corners due to the extra leverage at the hitch point
@merlogo
@merlogo 6 жыл бұрын
i would say its to do with using heavier trailers for smaller/lighter tractors for small areas and using the weight transfer from the trailer to help the tractor get traction - so it is close coupled so that the weight is as close to the rear axle as possible
@Futurebeefcake
@Futurebeefcake 6 жыл бұрын
Why would you buy a tractor in the uk? How would you ship it?
@Bazza1973ify
@Bazza1973ify 6 жыл бұрын
That hitch sticks out a long way from the rear of the tractor, it'd interfere with the implements that we use on the 3pt linkage.
@russellpetrie119
@russellpetrie119 6 жыл бұрын
do you have an exterior hith control
@warhead1715
@warhead1715 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Never seen those before. how does they work of road? like for instans on a twisting and bumpy forrest road?
@johnnymossville
@johnnymossville 6 жыл бұрын
Nice setup. Would have loved that on the farm.
@markgamble8377
@markgamble8377 6 жыл бұрын
How many ft pounds is that air hammer.450?
@davidbrewer7937
@davidbrewer7937 6 жыл бұрын
I have been out of farming for a number of years (UK) but back in the 1990s we used pick up hooks for the heavy work (we had trailers up to 13 tons). Sure the hook was out of view from the cab but there were guides on either side to align the hook which allowed you to back up into the trailer eye in a second. The 3 point lifted the hook up & the latch locked the hook up so that the hitch could never detatch by accident. We also used this type of pick up hook on the back of a trailed forage harvester which you backed up to pick up an empty trailer so a single working tractor could work a field, dropping full trailers & picking up empties as you want & the filled trailers were hauled back to the clamp (pit) for dump & return. It was very efficient & fast. When I moved to Canada in 2000 I did some work with tractors here again & I found the tractor hitches here a complete bunch of pants....
@Tractorguy-kl8xj
@Tractorguy-kl8xj 6 жыл бұрын
the hook is stander and at lest with ours hitch in the UK it does not move the trailer back when hooking up and the bar on your hitch is in the way of the pto shaft
@nickharvey239
@nickharvey239 6 жыл бұрын
what tractors can this hatch be put on like JCB fastrac,international956xl, johndeere7930, or MF 130.
@Mad_Farmer912
@Mad_Farmer912 6 жыл бұрын
Works on any just need to get the right bolt sizes or adapter like Wes used to fit the drawbar and the same goes for the wagon. The company will know what you need for each application and set you up.
@SteveHolsten
@SteveHolsten 6 жыл бұрын
Wes, this is one of your best videos in a long time. I didn't skip any of it! Your Dad will most assuredly love the ease of that hitch!
@alanmannion8670
@alanmannion8670 3 жыл бұрын
You could have skipped a few mins of the air gun 😂
@Robert-uk3mt
@Robert-uk3mt 6 жыл бұрын
Is it a bad thing that I drive are tractor (ford 8n) to the gas station every day
@scottyc2804
@scottyc2804 6 жыл бұрын
The hook hitch used in the UK and Ireland surely stems from convenience; a lot of implements are mounted on the 3 point linkage over here as opposed to predominantly being trailed in the US due to size and hp restraints. The hook hitch prevents the need to disconnect the drawbar from the tractor every time you want to mount an implement on the 3 point linkage.
@conormccarthy3500
@conormccarthy3500 6 жыл бұрын
The way you use the hook best is keep it lifted up and pushed out and only drop in when your in line a few inches away from it
@rickmiller2244
@rickmiller2244 6 жыл бұрын
Wes figure out how to weld a short spike on the shoe of the trailer to keep it from sliding. Just a thought.
@tomthumb4503
@tomthumb4503 6 жыл бұрын
What about grain trailers with out a turn table
@farmerstephen
@farmerstephen 3 жыл бұрын
What happens if some mud flies up and hits the rope and unhitches it?
@Darkasgamer
@Darkasgamer 6 жыл бұрын
How the little pipe lift off 40 tons of sillage on semi trailer???
@cameronpaton9183
@cameronpaton9183 6 жыл бұрын
What about when you go to use a linkage implement you will need to take the whole drawbar off because the drawbar would stick out to far
@rickhelbig630
@rickhelbig630 6 жыл бұрын
Can you install a back up camera to a tractor?
@thedutchfarmerhd1437
@thedutchfarmerhd1437 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it's faster but I don't think that it will be easy to unlock that speed hitch if it's pulling a loaded European style silage wagon but for your hay wagons the Agri speed hitch is what you need!
@ultrafarmer3069
@ultrafarmer3069 6 жыл бұрын
That is freaking cool does anyone know if they sell this in australia? Would like to see if it could be adapted to work for a truck and chipper similar to a ringfeder but using the pinnil hook.
@CollCrofter
@CollCrofter 6 жыл бұрын
Does your JD have the telescopic hitch? (Goes in and out via a spool valve) I'm sure I saw the switch on/off valve when you opened your window to show us you couldn't see it
@nialld4598
@nialld4598 6 жыл бұрын
The baler is designed to have weight on axle hitch is just to tow along ,, not a bad idea of a hitch but needs took off when using arms or PTO , if u get used to the UK /euro you don't need to look at hook ,also in UK our load length is restricted so with this your loosing a foot of length on trailer and leaving more awkward to bring a trailer into fields with longer drawbar as UK roads can and alot would be very narrow
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