Justin's 2019 Mustang Takes on The Drag Strip - Stock vs Tuned vs E85

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5 жыл бұрын

In this video, Justin takes his 2019 to the drag strip to compare the quarter miles results of stock v tuned v E85.
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@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Subscribe For Daily New Mustang Videos: muscle.am/SubscribeAMyt Check out parts for your Mustang Right Here: www.americanmuscle.com/hotlap-nov2018.html Lund Racing nGauge w/ 1 Custom Tune- muscle.am/2OKtCP9 What do you think of the 10-Speed auto in the 2019 Mustang?
@KlipschHead281
@KlipschHead281 5 жыл бұрын
The A10 is friggin nuts, I heard your car hit 2nd and 3rd just like mine does, very hard! Love it! I'm going to the nGauge and tune for the spring, perhaps the JLT and x-pipe to replace the resonator as well.
@kylestewart8049
@kylestewart8049 5 жыл бұрын
I’m curious if the Lund tune voids factory warranty?
@delancierblack
@delancierblack 5 жыл бұрын
Any reason for going with the Lund tune over the Bama? Thanks.
@shawnsanders9450
@shawnsanders9450 5 жыл бұрын
What size tires were the drag radials? Reason I need to know is I also have a 19' 10R80 GT with the 3.55's. Its a non PP car like yours. I was going to run it stock with some 305/45R17 drag radials to get a baseline but if it's going to act like yours it wouldn't be a true baseline. Thanks for the input. Keep it coming.
@maximusvonce1381
@maximusvonce1381 5 жыл бұрын
Bro no offense. But your 650wheel e85 14 5.0 looked way better. New one has horrible front end. Rear looks killer though.
5 жыл бұрын
Breaking into the 11's on the second run while bone stock is very impressive.
@Theedd9991
@Theedd9991 5 жыл бұрын
Atreyurock HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah right the ecoboost and the v6 will only dream of running 11s it’s a 5.0, do you live under a rock ?
@al1ve427
@al1ve427 5 жыл бұрын
Calm down, everyone has to learn. Maybe quit being so elitist, and actually help people instead of assuming everyone needs to know everything
@stangmann1521
@stangmann1521 5 жыл бұрын
I have a "base" GT 2016 Mustang Base model run's great ..!@@al1ve427
@al1ve427
@al1ve427 5 жыл бұрын
@@stangmann1521 I understand that. I was just pointing out that some people may not understand that there are different engines in the same model. It's the job of the people who know the reality to inform, not berate, them
@stangmann1521
@stangmann1521 5 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% I always try to inform people and not "berate " them at all , by the way all Mustang Gt have the same 5.0L Coyote engine in them @@al1ve427
@SevenFaith129
@SevenFaith129 5 жыл бұрын
11.9 with a baby seat in the back... now that's real power right there.
@vincentmerlino4766
@vincentmerlino4766 5 жыл бұрын
Thats the first thing I saw LOL
@Dair_y
@Dair_y 2 жыл бұрын
11.7
@BMW_DAILY
@BMW_DAILY Жыл бұрын
11.66 actually
@c-moneycantrell7681
@c-moneycantrell7681 2 жыл бұрын
To put things in perspective, I grew up in the 90s going to the drag strips with my uncle. He had a 70 mustang stripped down drag car ( not street legal ) but was in the streets made a lot of kick ass stories . That car ran 11.70 @ 117 mph ! So when I see that 11.90 right out the gate DAMN that’s very impressive. It really is faster than you think
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! -Zach
@whtmar3whtmar381
@whtmar3whtmar381 5 жыл бұрын
Great video I like how you are showing progression step by step and can't wait to see what you plan for the future . American muscle !!!!!
@EdgardoFP23
@EdgardoFP23 5 жыл бұрын
NICE!! I knew that 10 speed had potential... Cant wait to see what you do to it! Good job, sir!
@radioguy1620
@radioguy1620 4 жыл бұрын
Mustang you've come a long way since my 66 GT ran 15's,
@ThatWhiteGLI
@ThatWhiteGLI 5 жыл бұрын
I really liked this video and the format! Excellent performance display of a factory vehicle! Ide love to see other vehicles go through the same format!
@devincrave7067
@devincrave7067 5 жыл бұрын
Damn the 19's are badass. Mustangs are getting more and more potent. With all the makes you can get with them now and just the GT stock running like that is something. Thank you for this upload. You have two badass stangs. The s197 is a beast but you cannot overlook the s550. Ford up their game with that and each year keep out doing it seems like
@Chad-Dion
@Chad-Dion 5 жыл бұрын
WTF 11s stock mustang... These cars are just amazing..
@michaelregan427
@michaelregan427 5 жыл бұрын
@ZEROFUX It was bone stock the second pass at 11.97, this was at 3:24 in the video...
@wreckemraider1924
@wreckemraider1924 5 жыл бұрын
ZEROFUX fuckin hatin pussy haha
@3star2nr
@3star2nr 4 жыл бұрын
Bro for the sake of comparison a porsche 911 turbo runs 11.6 bone stock... So yeah these s550 mustangs are fucking incredible...
@user-by7ee7bz1w
@user-by7ee7bz1w 3 жыл бұрын
@@3star2nr fucking incredible FAKE stock, yes...
@forgot2wipe
@forgot2wipe 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-by7ee7bz1w how's it fake stock?
@RSDX99
@RSDX99 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video I bought a 2021 GT 10 speed in Dec, 2021 I got 4K off list plus zero percent financing. Thanks again for this video.
@wattsmichaele
@wattsmichaele 5 жыл бұрын
Great job. A LOT of work went into this entire video. And you have a great attitude. Had to chuckle when you were filling up the car with the jugs. But you just laughed it off. Keep up the good work young man.
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to not only watch but also leave a positive comment- its greatly appreciated! -Justin
@JesseAndMike
@JesseAndMike 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! Great video!
@michaelregan427
@michaelregan427 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, love the methodical approach. Talk about a nice way to spend the day lol.
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 5 жыл бұрын
excellent video
@pumpkinfury
@pumpkinfury 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video with some awesome runs! Love your 19
@victorsilva9795
@victorsilva9795 5 жыл бұрын
Bama got fired lol
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 5 жыл бұрын
victor silva nope found another team to but ride that all these guys do
@hmackprotection1
@hmackprotection1 5 жыл бұрын
Easily the best AM video in years.. Justin, you should’ve retried those DR’s after you installed the E85 tune. That 1.8 60ft would’ve dropped
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks T U- and I agree with you on the radials and E85 but unfortunately our rental time had expired. -Justin
@hmackprotection1
@hmackprotection1 5 жыл бұрын
AmericanMuscle.com I understand. Keep the videos of the progress of your car coming.
@hmackprotection1
@hmackprotection1 5 жыл бұрын
TheBigGuy3380 are you not well?
@darthracer777
@darthracer777 2 жыл бұрын
@@americanmuscle what rear end gears did the car have?
@nikolzew
@nikolzew 5 жыл бұрын
great video , well put together and very interesting results from a 2019 stock GT Mustang, can't wait to see more with bolt ons , cheers from Australia !
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Peter- thanks for watching down under! -Justin
@craigoverall5753
@craigoverall5753 Жыл бұрын
What's the time of stock 2016/17?
@brandonleeiacocca6640
@brandonleeiacocca6640 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Justin! Still going to keep my 16 Mustang GT auto for now. But really impressive. Can't wait to see future NA mods for your car
@FlatPlaneCranky
@FlatPlaneCranky 5 жыл бұрын
Great compare video!! Thank you for sharing!
@markboen
@markboen 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!!! Loved the filter delete idea. More to come.
@victorciccarone6291
@victorciccarone6291 5 жыл бұрын
didnt really think it did anything his numbers were so close and consistent it may have just been how he hooked up on that run more over then the removal of the filter hard to say
@OctaneStreet
@OctaneStreet 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, the GT is an absolute monster even stock. Great job to Ford on making a great affordable car be this much of a performer off the lot!
@user-by7ee7bz1w
@user-by7ee7bz1w 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute loser you mean... My Audi RS3 already fucked it when I was stock...
@UltStream
@UltStream 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-by7ee7bz1w sorry to hear you got gapped
@Anvarynn
@Anvarynn 5 жыл бұрын
Man I'd love to be able to full send one down the 1/4, glad you're having fun with all this!
@MusicMikeRay
@MusicMikeRay 5 жыл бұрын
"We shall see!" Looked like a lot of fun!!
@Greg_call
@Greg_call 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! As a new Mustang 5.0 owner, this is all new but wanting to give the quarter mile try... once this COVID-19 pandemic has passed. Thanks for sharing.
@untamed88
@untamed88 5 жыл бұрын
Thats some pretty good passes. The 10 speed is definitely doing its job.
@Sami-gs7qb
@Sami-gs7qb 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video man, keep it up :)
@kb420ps
@kb420ps 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!! Now I want to see you go with the Whipple on e85!!!!!! That should put you well in to the 9's.
@victorxavier9977
@victorxavier9977 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin great video and great times! I was really surprised you didn't improve with the sticker tires, maybe because they were taller than stock. You should show your baby in the car seat in one of the upcoming vids!
@mustanga4363
@mustanga4363 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats Justin. Told you back in the day that you’ll love autos. Your 19 is moving brother.
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, whats up Mike! Yes you did- and here I am. Hope all is well brother, the notch is looking killer. -Justin
@mustanga4363
@mustanga4363 5 жыл бұрын
AmericanMuscle.com I got a couple like things to do to it over this winter and I’ll drive her up to show ya. I’ll keep you posted brother.
@Jordendog
@Jordendog 5 жыл бұрын
Growing up in the 60`s it is still amazing what cars run today while loaded with options.
@KingShabba
@KingShabba 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this video before buying my car. I am still in love with my mustang gt premium 2019. Fast as hell!
@Greg_call
@Greg_call 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky.
@SH-oo5fd
@SH-oo5fd 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my 2019 premium auto used. Super low mileage trade in. Got in it and saw an Ngauge. Has a Lund 93 tune and JLT CAI. Is yours loud as HELL in track mode? I'm starting to wonder if it's had exhaust work....
@Jackson99273
@Jackson99273 3 жыл бұрын
@@SH-oo5fd get under it my boy
@Themazcorner
@Themazcorner 5 жыл бұрын
Those are crazy good times with those tires :D. 11.9 totally stock is really good
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
I was equally parts shocked and impressed myself! Thanks for watching! -Justin
@tomkjr1
@tomkjr1 5 жыл бұрын
Great numbers for a stock setup! Love to see you run the same deal on a manual 019 Justin.
@lornawest5616
@lornawest5616 5 жыл бұрын
Impressive - good honest approach you took about the whole thing . Thanks
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Lorna. -Justin
@sollydogg
@sollydogg 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that's awesome great content these mustangs are amazing
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! -Zach
@leoncope6649
@leoncope6649 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome having fun ,, I just got one mine is a 6 speed manual
@07slowbalt
@07slowbalt 5 жыл бұрын
Quality video of simple mods for a relative beginner.
@LIGHTNING351
@LIGHTNING351 5 жыл бұрын
Just incredible....good job!
@johnf517
@johnf517 5 жыл бұрын
Solid runs... excellent vid
@croneous
@croneous 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Justin! going to try to hold out and see what Ford is going to do love the new cars already have my manual for fun auto might be another on the side for the future
@techknown
@techknown 5 жыл бұрын
Whats up brother!! good video. You guys definitely need more "How to" videos at the track (for your "fun" benefit of course lol). We tried to find you at SEMA but so many people. I did 2 videos of our experience of the first time being there and published them. See you guys soon.
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Torry! I hope we get to do more of these videos in the future- it would certainly be a very hard day of 'work' haha. -Justin
@hialeahhigh
@hialeahhigh 5 жыл бұрын
Lund’s got those 10r80’s in check! 👌👌awesome
@BestUnderPressure
@BestUnderPressure 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with what you said about the auto trans. I'll take a manual regardless. Cool video.
@disegnosys
@disegnosys 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video and impressive for a stock setup!👍
@scringe1
@scringe1 5 жыл бұрын
No regrets on that 10 speed Justin. You made a great choice and it does look fun. I'll be interested on whats next for the car.
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Amen! Its a lot more enjoyable than I thought it would be. -Justin
@fread51
@fread51 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the 11.sec pass looking forward to more mods
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Billy! -Justin
@aarons19bullitt
@aarons19bullitt 5 жыл бұрын
Nice times! I really like my Lund Racing 93 octane tune. It woke my car up and it’s a 6-speed manual. We don’t have E85 around where I live so I can’t experience the ‘extra’ power....
@realfun1232
@realfun1232 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man, glad you ran that car a bunch of times
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! -Justin
@Mentality
@Mentality 5 жыл бұрын
The content we wanna see right here!
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you enjoyed it- we'll keep em coming! -Justin
@5thboroboarders
@5thboroboarders 4 жыл бұрын
Great job on this video!
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We always appreciate the love! -Zach
@Twobarpsi
@Twobarpsi 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing numbers!
@nickkostakis9600
@nickkostakis9600 3 жыл бұрын
Top stuff mate
@ctapmgriley
@ctapmgriley 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Justin! May the Schwartz be with you.
@hockeynutt888
@hockeynutt888 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video love my 2019 pp2
@TZ250FANATIC
@TZ250FANATIC Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video. I just agreed to buy a 2019 GT. It's nice to know what to expect from it.
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! -Zach
@SSecondo1
@SSecondo1 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats Justin very impressive!
@gen310speed7
@gen310speed7 4 жыл бұрын
I agree my Blue Knight 2019 GT awesome the power is a always there and ready!!!
@JD704.
@JD704. 5 жыл бұрын
Y'all make great videos and really enjoy watching the dragstrip part and the dyno results but I don't understand about when y'all say 11 nines versus 1190s. Maybe I'm old school and always went with a11 90s. But just saying y'all make awesome videos!!
@TEAMIMPORTKILLER
@TEAMIMPORTKILLER 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and thanks for the great info. I love my 2018 pony car too.
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it! -Justin
@boostedjay4277
@boostedjay4277 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@joevald3
@joevald3 5 жыл бұрын
Great test learned a lot
@wesleycook6921
@wesleycook6921 5 жыл бұрын
Love your stang bro. Awesome.
@shawnsanders9450
@shawnsanders9450 5 жыл бұрын
So the taller heavier radials hurt you that bad? Was it just boging hard? Wonder what it would have done with the E85 tune. Probably would not have MPHered as much but might have hit a 11.5 or better. In the video I could hear it wheel hop and lose traction especially on the 1-2 shift with the E85 tune. I have a 19 GT 10 speed car I just bought that had the exact same wheel setup as you stock. I was going to run a 17" drag radial for my baseline runs before modding but am worried it might slow me down now. Mine does have 3.55 gears though and I bet your track gets prepped better than my closest track.
@adolfoosuna1835
@adolfoosuna1835 5 жыл бұрын
Lund !!! F yes bro!!! Finally
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 5 жыл бұрын
I had drag radials on my 88 383 SC IROC back in the day...still melted the tires...still ran low 11s
@erikburleson1799
@erikburleson1799 5 жыл бұрын
Goodyear worked really hard to develop the tires for the mustang. It shows they did a great job. What’s the DOT Number on the tires?
@tubs1979
@tubs1979 5 жыл бұрын
Very impressed and excellent video
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
We're glad you enjoyed it! -Zach
@rodrigog1493
@rodrigog1493 5 жыл бұрын
What wheels were those you used with the drag radials? They look real nice
@604parkour
@604parkour 5 жыл бұрын
Extremely impressive, even new camaro SS with whipples have trouble getting these times
@MainStreetCustoms33513
@MainStreetCustoms33513 5 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you very much
@bigmosesmedia
@bigmosesmedia 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video.
@jimmymiller4166
@jimmymiller4166 5 жыл бұрын
SICK....! BEST CAR 4 THE MONEY AND THIS IS COMING FROM A G.M GUY
@jefftownsend6
@jefftownsend6 4 жыл бұрын
My 2019 Bullitt 6-speed manual ran 11.96@115 mph bone stock with a radial.
@TheMynig
@TheMynig 3 ай бұрын
Crazy that the stock Gt is just as fast if not faster than the bullit and Mach 1
@Douche17
@Douche17 2 жыл бұрын
Great info. I respect these cars
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Be sure to subscribe if you want to see more of our content! -Zach
@mikeholmed7029
@mikeholmed7029 2 жыл бұрын
Im curious l have a 2021 gt and l have line locks for drag racing. Did the 2019 not come with line locks? Bc then you wouldnt have to use the hand brake and foot brake to get those rpm's up at the line.
@BADAZZ93STANG
@BADAZZ93STANG 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Has anything been done to the exhaust system?
@demongawl
@demongawl 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome car and makes me look at my 15 differently lol. Side note, am I the only one bothered by the hood gap?
@cecet5534
@cecet5534 5 жыл бұрын
Great info Justin.
@Bibiweebee
@Bibiweebee 5 жыл бұрын
Wow Justin a raptor and two crazy mustangs. AM is treating you well lol.
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed they are Bibi! Very grateful for sure. -Justin
@AJUSA1
@AJUSA1 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chrism.728
@chrism.728 5 жыл бұрын
Great 1/4 mile numbers for E-85 tune only! Now slap on a Whipple Gen 5, or wait until next year when VMP releases the Gen 3 blower for the 2018-19 Mustang GTs!
@The570Experience
@The570Experience 5 жыл бұрын
They are already out
@JeffWald
@JeffWald 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Justin. Any chance you can get your hands on a 19 GT manual to do the same for a comparison?
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you know what Jeff- I would love to! I'll see what I can do however most of the tracks near us are closed for the year :( -Justin
@JeffWald
@JeffWald 5 жыл бұрын
@@americanmuscle Sounds great brother. We have a 19 GT PP1 manual only mod is MBRP Street catback, and I'd love to see what its capable of stock like how you did this. If you were closer... :D
@al151
@al151 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if Ford offers no lift shift feature with the manual but if you can get that in a mustang with torque management turned off, you can put down pretty awesome times.
@acts2211
@acts2211 5 жыл бұрын
11.97 bone stock I can't breathe
@MrAdrian13
@MrAdrian13 5 жыл бұрын
same
@231mac
@231mac 5 жыл бұрын
@ZEROFUX Yes, STOCK. The fucks your deal that you can't "grasp" that?
@thesquidrider998
@thesquidrider998 5 жыл бұрын
231mac he’s just surprised bro, lol
@231mac
@231mac 5 жыл бұрын
@@thesquidrider998 Apparently, he's extremely surprised because he posted the same reply on two other commenters, lol
@michaelharris748
@michaelharris748 5 жыл бұрын
@@thesquidrider998 hes being an asshat insinuating it wasnt stock when it ran 11s when it certainly was
@TheJosephayal
@TheJosephayal 5 жыл бұрын
Quick beautiful machine
@davidfrank2824
@davidfrank2824 4 жыл бұрын
Were you manually shifting the transmission on each run or did you just put it in drive and go? What gears did it come with from the factory?
@jrod78414
@jrod78414 5 жыл бұрын
That was fun the best part on all season tires . Dang
@jayebinning8915
@jayebinning8915 5 жыл бұрын
You can turn off "Advanced Trac Control" by holding track down for 5 seconds. It will show on the dash that "Advanced Trac is now off". If you just turn it off without holding it there is still some trac control.
@nickschadd5227
@nickschadd5227 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you are already doing this but to help with the ft time if you start letting go of the brake and start pressing the gas at the yellow light right before it turns green it should help with the launch.
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Cutting a light has no affect on ET. But thanks for the suggestion Nick! -Justin
@BoostedAddictions
@BoostedAddictions 5 жыл бұрын
Great video bud, alway love watching. when you go forced air induction you need to give my TT S550 a shot at it
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man- and sounds like a plan! -Justin
@jjseizdos8663
@jjseizdos8663 3 жыл бұрын
If I got just a tune from Lund , and simple h pipe and axle back , will I run the risk of blowing anything while drag racing ? Going this weekend for the first time and nervous
@taylor_coyote5317
@taylor_coyote5317 5 жыл бұрын
Hey justin, what did it trap and run in the 1/8 mile? Bone stock
@steveschmittou941
@steveschmittou941 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2018 auto gt . Drove both . I was like "ill take the automatic". Standards are fun to drive , but this was going to be my daily driver.
@bluecollardaily2676
@bluecollardaily2676 5 жыл бұрын
Any updates on why it falls on its face on the 1-2? Did you have the Jack rails on it?
@matthewstringer4424
@matthewstringer4424 5 жыл бұрын
Tuned to perfection with the stock radials.
@chrish9502
@chrish9502 5 жыл бұрын
How much better are your goodyears than what comes stock on the black accent pkg?
@luissaucedo1433
@luissaucedo1433 4 жыл бұрын
The beauty of these gen 3s is that they really only need headers and e85 to be a fun street/strip car…especially with that 10spd😉
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 4 жыл бұрын
Damn straight! -Justin
@elusivewon7688
@elusivewon7688 5 жыл бұрын
I will still stay with my FBO 2017 manual, 100% ethanol AM tuned, street car/daily driver, spanking asses and hurting feelings on the street, with the much better looking front end lol. Great video none the less, thank you! 🤘
@americanmuscle
@americanmuscle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support and keep kicking ass! -Justin
@M_2Gon
@M_2Gon 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I love my 21 10r80 Gt, only one that has been auto, my 8 others were stick, never taken mine to the rack yet , but will be fin when I do
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