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@stevecam724 26 күн бұрын

Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thompson and Rod Marsh were the backbone of the Aussie bowling attack in the mid 77s

@jimkat2 Ай бұрын

The term "sandshoe crusher" came from Thompson's yorkers

@aplund Ай бұрын

When asked about his accuracy, the response was along the lines of: if I don't know where the ball is going then the batsman definitely won't know.

@neumanmachine3781 Ай бұрын

I was lucky enough to watch Jeff Thomson play live, but only towards the end of his career in a Sheffield Shield match (interstate cricket) where he was past his peak speed. Even then from side on his bowling was faster than the naked eye could see. The wicket keeper was also standing some 25 metres behind the stumps and was taking the ball at shoulder height. We moved around to get behind the wicket to have a chance to actually see the ball and even then you only got an impression of the bowl as it was so quick. The only other bowlers I have seen live that could match that pace were a young Craig McDermott, Brett Lee and Mitchell Johnson- none of whom could have matched a pre injury Thommo.

@glenchapman3899 Ай бұрын

Yes I saw him and a lot of the great West Indian's play live. Always sat behind the wicket or would have no idea what was going on lol

@blairchristie910 Ай бұрын

You need to watch the history of "bodyline" between Australia and England in the early 30s ashes series

@jamesszabadics5911 Ай бұрын

Aside from the bean ball bouncers aimed at the head he also aimed for the toe - the sandshoe crusher. This delivery is called a yorker in traditional cricket parlance....

@UmpireStrikesBack Ай бұрын

PLEASE, stop saying "throw". Throwing is an illegal delivery. Say bowl, bowler, bowling, bowled etc.

@RealFansSports Ай бұрын

Just a habit my brother. we catch ourselves most the time but every once in a while it slips out. We are aware that it is not allowed.

@UmpireStrikesBack Ай бұрын

@@RealFansSports Please don't take it as an insult. Only a comment.

@RealFansSports Ай бұрын

@@UmpireStrikesBack oh no Ofcourse not! Was just letting everybody know we are aware of the difference. It’s hard breaking the habit of decades using the word throw. Especially since for us it’s never been correlated with bending of the elbow. Throw has always been used as a loose term for using force to move an object using your arm.

@tonyroy8123 Ай бұрын

Listen you twoJeff Thomson was the most lethal bowler ever. So was Michael Holding for the WestCaribbeans). So, watch that as well.

@Ducatirati Ай бұрын

@RealFansSports and Bodyline , Pompus English Captain Douglas Jardine , a twat , decided to beat Australia he had to employ a tactic , and decided that Bradman was key , and all batsmen will receive a constant barrage off short ball bowled at the body head preferably, and Harold Larwood , arguably the fastest bowler in the colonies , But it was "JUST NOT CRICKET" there is only one team playing cricket out there and it's. Isn't England , and it was dirty Cricket, but so be it , the most unsporting thing I've ever seen , would be a certain underarm , Bloody piss weak , any one but a little brother would had a fkn dip , so. GREG you put it on yah Lil bro , prick , NOT OUT

@davidhandson2429 Ай бұрын

He went for the head and the toes. He had the most lethal yorker in the game and broke many batsman's toes. As for the how fast he bowled he was recorded at 161 kilometres per hour in the late 70's I think 77 againsed the West Indies in Perth. The difference in how they recorded the speed then to now is that Thompson's was recorded when the ball reached the batsman now they record the speed as the ball leaves the bowlers hand. So Thompson's was recorded at its slowest point and now it is recorded at it's fastest point. Aktars was 161.8 when it left his hand Thompson's was 161 when it reached the batsman. Experts say that the ball looses between 8 to 10 kilometres by the time it gets to the batsman. So Thompson's 161 would be 8 to 10 kilometres faster when the ball left his hand.

@jamesrowe3606 Ай бұрын

I saw Jeff Thompson bowl once. I was sitting side-on to the pitch, so I didn't really see the ball, just a frighteningly fast blur and a batsman trying desperately to get out of the way of the red missile coming at him. It was only a tour match against an English county side, so he probably wasn't giving it full blast, but man it was fast, and hostile.

@jonsant7232 14 күн бұрын

I've had the same experience sitting square of the wicket and I was always amazed by how far back Marsh the wicket-keeper had to stand, he might as well take a seat in the grand stand

@jamesrowe3606 12 күн бұрын

@@jonsant7232 You're right. That was my first time seeing a real fast bowler in action and I was amazed at how far back Marsh was. I bet his hands still stung though.

@roderickdunn3464 Ай бұрын

Jeff Thompson was extremely flexible, few people are flexible enough to bowl using his action. I watched him bowling at the gabba, the keeper was standing about 25 metres behind the wicket, and taking catches over his head. He is a nice bloke, with a wry sense of humour.

@arconeagain Ай бұрын

He's very funny and humble. I saw an acceptance speech from him and it was thoroughly entertaining. I think it ended in tears, maybe about Rod Marsh?? Anyway, he seems like an out and out great bloke.

@TheKira699 Ай бұрын

Jeff Thomson and Dennis Lillee were legendary bowlers, they were complimented by the Wicket Keeper (catcher for you Americans) by Rod Marsh who only wore Keeper's Gloves. No helmet, no chest protector. The immortal trio decimated teams. Where you said "they aren't wearing helmet here", the batsmen were wearing white helmets with clear plastic face protectors. First prototype.

@sdev2749 8 күн бұрын

100mph bowls is scary...btw guys, he is still alive today - I met him several times after he retired - he was a handyman who came into the place I worked at often and I served him often.

@raffisekzenian2746 11 күн бұрын

There’s the legendary story about the time Jeff Thompson balled to Don Bradman in the nets.

@karnevor 3 күн бұрын

Thompson was a total killer in the cricket pitch. He was not just an ambassador for cricket, but sport in general. Donating time and energy to kids sports encouraging youth training programs. When I was in highschool he used to come into the place I worked regularly for gardening and hardware supplies. And I often would see him stand around for over an hour or two on a busy Saturday morning with dozens of kids (and some dad's) swarmed around him getting autographs, he would sign every single one. Never turned people away. A true legend.

@brentdavis3102 Ай бұрын

Thommo was a legit freak made of the old school stuff. The realist fast bowler to ever look down a pitch. Imagine having to face him one over & Dennis Lillee the next over after over? Imagine the effect that would have on any batters moral?

@adamparker9765 Ай бұрын

and without a helmet 😳

@Shivian124 Ай бұрын

Hey guys. The English left handed opener hit in the jewels is a very famous incident. Here is David Lloyd hilariously retelling the story kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ethzgbij09nZYqc.html Also Jeff Thomson claims the speed gun speeds were not originally recorded at release - they recorded basically average speed across the wicket. He claims the calculation was changed post his retirement to make subsequent bowlers not seem so much slower. The speeds nowadays are calculated using math to be the actual out of the hand release speeds so Shoaib's speed was at release 100mph but Jeff's speed out of the hand was likely a lot higher.

@jsegal8385 Ай бұрын

Back in the 1930's the English used a tactic against Australia called 'Bodyline' where the pace bowlers aimed AT the batsman, not the wicket. And by saying 'at the batsman' it was a short pitched ball aimed to rise up and hit the batsmans head. This was developed to counter the Australian batsman Don Bradman. Bradmans Test batting average was 99.94. And but for going out for a duck (ie no score) in his last innings it would have been 100. That was set between 1928 and 1948. It is still a record today. The second closest is Harry Brook at 62.15. This is still remembered today by the Aussies and back in those days it sparked a serious diplomatic incident Jeff was not trying to bowl bodyline as he didnt aim at the man but he was still dangerous as was Dennis Lillie

@neumanmachine3781 Ай бұрын

Bodyline or as the English captain Jardine called it “Leg Theory” had the bowler come around the wicket so that the starting point of the delivery was outside the line of the batter’s body and then pitched short aimed at their ribcage or head. The Australian team refused to respond in kind and as this was still in the amateur era they considered it to be an ungentlemanly way to play the game. There were many injuries to the Australian players who were often unable to return to their occupations after the match due to their injuries (at least until they healed) and this generated much outrage in Australia and embarrassment for those English who did not support these tactics.

@kevharper1378 Ай бұрын

@@neumanmachine3781 "There are two teams out there, but only One of them is Playing Cricket" Australian captain of the day.

@arconeagain Ай бұрын

@@kevharper1378 one of the greatest statements in cricketing history.

@mymartianhome Ай бұрын

I believe there was also the England tour of Australia when the Australians used bodyline against England but that was several years before.

@jsegal8385 Ай бұрын

@@mymartianhome Splitting hairs, there is leg theory and fast leg theory. Leg theory is when the ball is bowled at the leg stump. It was used before the First World war mainly by slow and medium pace bowlers. Fast leg theory ie. bodyline is when the ball is bowled at speed aiming at the batsmans body. This was developed specifically for use against Bradman by The English

@mikeythehat6693 Ай бұрын

Thompson was part of the Test line up for Australia when I was a kid, his delivery style was certainly unorthodox, he just ran in with a flurry of arms and legs, out of which flew a cricket ball at full pace. It really wasn't pretty, but absolutely effective, and with Denniss Lillee bowling from the other end, you couldn't help but become enthralled. This is the era that I learned to love Cricket.

@joeblack1652 Ай бұрын

If you guys haven’t looked up Shaun “The Wild Thing” Tait he is another incredible Aussie fast bowler with an unorthodox action. He once hit AB Devilier who was late on the ball, bottom edged it into his hip, and the pain was so great AB spun around and couldn’t hold his bat up and dropped it onto the stumps which counted as a wicket.

@johnfisher4872 Ай бұрын

The bouncers limit only applies to limited overs matches.. In that 74/75 series in Australia the only rule was the umpires could tell the bowler he was endangering the batsmen. Bear in mind this series was a few years before there were helmets available. Try watching on You Tube there are sections of Thommo bowling in that series where the batsmen, with no helmets, were just about avoiding the ball hitting them on the head. You showed one clip of a batsman being struck in the groin. The batter was David Lloyd, also known as Bumble. He tells the story about how the groin protector shattered in that moment and his wedding tackle got tangled in the debris. Hilarious story if you can find it.

@jamesmorgan4121 Ай бұрын

I watched the 74/75 Ashes series in Australia and Thompson bowled balls that went past the batsman’s chins and hit the sight screen on the full. That is how quick he was and I have never seen another fast bowler do that. The only way they could measure the speed back then was timing it from Wicket to Wicket. For Thompson to reach 160km/h using this measure he had to release it at about 180km/h. Note that it is the speed at release that they measured now, they don’t take into account the reduction in speed of the ball when it bounces.

@aqibpeer7451 Ай бұрын

I have heard this from a few people. Would the pitch have aided him a little because the pitches would have been uncovered and much faster than today? Not disrespectful but just trying to understand how someone could hit the sight screen on the full

@relevantbrother8964 Ай бұрын

If he was 180 in 1974 ,he measured only 147 in 1979 using speed from the hand as they do today. That means he lost 35kph of pace in 5 years as did Roberts , Holding and Lillee mysteriously.. I know the old stories of Thommo being in the bar and suddenly pitching up and winning the 79 speed challenge but all of them were much slower.Very strange.

@jamesmorgan4121 Ай бұрын

@@relevantbrother8964 1979 was after he had his shoulder injury and he was nowhere near as fast after that. You can see that from the videos and the players say the same thing.

@jamesmorgan4121 Ай бұрын

@@aqibpeer7451 pitches were covered in 1974. The pitches were actually no different than today. He did it in Perth which is no surprise as it is a fast bounce wicket. But he also did it in Sydney and that was a spinner’s paradise as it is today. Melbourne is the only pitch that has changed significantly in the last 50 years but they were all covered back then.

@aqibpeer7451 Ай бұрын

@@jamesmorgan4121 he must have been really fast then. Scary af 😲

@Warpedsmac 15 күн бұрын

Hysterical and VERY interesting guys!!! Thomson WAS the fastest and by a long way. I saw him bowl in Sydney in 1977....could not see the ball through the air. Jeff Thomson was an incredibly flexible human being...much more than normal people. Ball was dark red not white like a baseball. The colour of the ball does make a difference. Cheers from Hunter Valley Australia. T20 cricket coming to the USA THIS YEAR.

@xsjado_anon 6 күн бұрын

Hey mate, I'm from Cessnock, my mum watched him live at his peak, said there was nothing like it. She still tells the story of Thommo hitting the same batter on the foot 3 times and the guy had to be carried off. Apparently, before the match he was warming up (or maybe during break, I wasn't there) he bowled a bouncer that flew over the boundary. I used to bowl with his action as a kid, but multiple shoulder dislocations made it no longer viable, had to revert to a regular style and give up speed and rely on swing and being more clever with what I had left - still opened the bowling though (and closed the batting haha).

@davejensen7922 Ай бұрын

Aussie cricketers were a bunch of drunks back in those days and still won most of their matches

@vp4744 Ай бұрын

Wasn't there an incident where an English player went to Aussie changing rooms to demand an apology for a slur he heard on the field? He then saw they talked like that even to themselves. I believe the slur was "bastard".

@user-ij5wm7ev4s 29 күн бұрын

@@vp4744 Think that was Lord Tennyson back in an Ashes series in the 1920's.

@vp4744 29 күн бұрын

@@user-ij5wm7ev4s That's probably right, because it's something I read. Thanks.

@iankearns774 14 күн бұрын

All cricketers were, it was fairly social even at the highest levels. Professionalim in sport didn't really arrive until the late 80's, thats when the corporations really got involved and expected the players to toe the line due to a fear of their products being connected with blokes playing drunks. Now they cant put a foot wrong in any way.

@vp4744 14 күн бұрын

@@iankearns774 yes, the price of money

@jonrichardson8461 13 күн бұрын

Great to see you guys in the States taking an interest in cricket and enjoying it. Having watched him live as well as on TV a lot at his peak I have no doubt he was consistently faster than anyone since, including Shoaib Akhtar, probably by a few km/hour. They only measured speed in those days in a few tests off the field , never during a match, so he was really never tested, though when he was a couple years after his peak he was much quicker than some great fast bowlers from the West Indies, Pakistan, South Africa and Australia. But it’s important to know his peak was only two years, those two series shown in these clips from 1974-1976. He was never quite the same after dislocating his shoulder in a collision with a fielder trying to catch the ball in late 1976. In those clips from the early 1980s when he is in a yellow uniform he was much slower. He didn’t retire particularly young as the commentator suggests. He toured England for a Test series in 1985 when he was 34/35. Important to know the importance of the type of wickets in different countries. A super fast bowler works well on the faster pitches of Australia and South Africa, but not always on the slower pitches of England, India and Pakistan, for example. Thomson’s action was unusual because of the javelin style, but in many ways ideal, being perfectly side on. As someone who played cricket for 35 years, including against some international players, and watched for longer, I’d say cricket doesn’t require greater hand eye coordination than baseball, except for catching close to the batter with no gloves. The ball is delivered about 3 metres closer to the batter in baseball and doesn’t bounce, which slows it down. And it’s travelling mostly 90-100 mph from the pitcher’s hand in baseball, whereas not many bowlers in cricket bowl over 90 mph, even at the highest level. And it’s difficult to make the cricket ball drop or curve downwards or sideways consistently as it does in baseball. That’s why a good baseball batter gets the ball in play around 30% of the time without getting out. Whereas in cricket it’s mostly difficult to get good players out. But each requires different kinds of skills. But whatever you read, in comments don’t believe anyone who tells you Akhtar was quicker than Thomson at his peak. It’s not just me but a whole bunch of the best international players across both eras.

@paulflanagan7739 Ай бұрын

The English batsman hit in "the jewels" at 5.04 is David Lloyd. Over the many years since has said, whenever he see's Thomo he covers up the jewels & his pitch of voice becomes higher instantly.

@markwaters3050 19 күн бұрын

Rod Marsh, Thommo's wicket keeper, would only EVER have been worried about being able to hold his beer after the days play! ;)

@gbrowser5867 Ай бұрын

As a kid I was taken to the MCG to see Aus vs WI in the mid seventies. The WI had 4 fast bowlers and Aus had 2 (Lillee & Thomson). Thomson was the fastest of the 6, but not by much and it showed me just how much courage was needed to bat against these bowlers without helmets. Sadly, Jeff Thomson collided with a fielder a couple of years later and had to have his right shoulder reconstructed. He was never quite the same bowler after that. He probably was the fastest bowler ever before his injury, but as speeds were not measured accurately back then its hard to say. Shoaib Akhtar, Brett Lee and a couple of others were really quick and once someone bowls over 160 Kmh it is probably just academic anyway.

@UmpireStrikesBack Ай бұрын

Unfortunately I think you are misremembering your childhood. 75/76 West Indies played Lance Gibbs. Then WSC happened, Thommo only played 5 matches all in the West Indies. In 1979/80 Thommo did not play. I cannot find an ODI where that happened.

@gbrowser5867 Ай бұрын

@@UmpireStrikesBack Maybe my memory is merging the Aus v Eng series from the previous year, which I also went to when Thomson was seriously scary, with the WI series. I do remember the gasps in the crowd when Dennis Lillee hit Viv Richards on the head when he was wearing just a cap, but amazingly Viv just shrugged it off and faced the next ball. I guess the point is, there were some serious fast bowlers in that 70s era and if you were listing the top 10 pace bowlers of all time Lillee, Marshall, Roberts, Holding and Garner from that era would all be in contention. I think had Thomson not injured his shoulder, he would have been up there too.

@utha2665 Ай бұрын

He dislocated his shoulder in a collision with Alan Turner when going for a catch at around mid-wicket from memory. I remember when Thommo came back, he could never throw the ball in from the boundary, he had to bowl it. But, you're right, after that injury he was never as quick.

@siryogiwan Ай бұрын

only just clicked on, but I'm so glad you covered Jeff, he was a gun of the game

@siryogiwan Ай бұрын

I was born in 73, growing up with only 2 channels on tv, 1 (ABC of Australia) had every test match (prior to 1 day cricket), so watching these guys was a done thing, you would play backyard cricket, coming in for breaks to see the score and get food, drinks or frozen treats, simpler days lol

@siryogiwan Ай бұрын

a heap of wicketkeepers played with broken hands and fingers etc, purely from the power of the bowler

@siryogiwan Ай бұрын

The vid he suggested at end, is def another bowler, along with Bruce Reid, Merv Hughes and Craig McDermott, that you guys will be impressed by

@KikiBabe-km2mm 22 күн бұрын

I have seen Jeff Thomson and Shoaib Akhtar bowl live and both were incredibly fast. But you must remember that in Thommo's day they only occasionally timed the bowling speed and used a police hand held speed gun. Something to note is today they have better timing equipment and they time the speed of the ball out of the bowlers hand. In Thommo's day they timed the ball after it has bounced on the pitch and arrived at the batsman's wicket 22 yards away. The speed of the ball decreases by up to 20% once it bounces on the pitch. If they used today's timing method on Thommo's bowling and timed the ball out his hand his speed would be more like 180km per hour

@JordyJayHomer 17 күн бұрын

Collis King told me that after Thommo bowled his first session in the West Indies, a bunch of Windies players, ground staff and officials went out to inspect the pitch because they thought there might've been something wrong with it, coz they couldn't figure out how he got the ball to bounce up so sharply of moderate lengths

@satyapalsingh116 Ай бұрын

Go for Mitchell Johnson another Aussie who brought back the fear and threatened batsmen to leave the crese. Watch 2013-14 ashes a slingy action fast bowler. He was firing lethal rockets (bouncers).

@WaynePeake-lm5sg 17 күн бұрын

No way near as fast as Thommo mate. Thommo was only ever measured after he ran into Alan Turner and rooted his shoulder.

@Skinny_Karlos 8 күн бұрын

I'm Aussie, born in '65 and Thommo and Dennis Lillee dominated that era. They were unstoppable. We loved them !!

@julienash9470 22 күн бұрын

It's worth noting that nowadays the ball is timed out of the bowlers hand but in the 70's it was off the pitch so by that time the ball would have slowed somewhat

@nedeast6845 29 күн бұрын

famously. Jeff Thommo Thomson was timed at the magical 99 mph, yes, he aimed at the head, and wasn't backward in admitting it, as part of his strategy to get the batsmen out lbw by pushing them back in the crease, he had a devastating yorker, his main weapon

@jamesc264 18 күн бұрын

Jeff Thompson actually bowled at around 175-180 Km an hour (110 -112 mph), not 160 km per hour (100 mph). They changed the way bowling was measured after him. When he was bowling they measured ball speed when it reached the batsman. After Thompson, they measured ball speed out of the bowlers hand. It was a trick because promoters realised that bowlers after Thompson just did not bowl as fast, To be clear, the ball on average loses 10-15% of its speed in period from bowlers hand until it reaches the batsman.

@heatherwickstead7980 18 күн бұрын

As a young woman (I'm 68 now!) I used to take myself to the cricket in Melbourne and watch these 2 - very exciting. Nice to hear about Thommo because we mainly just heard about Lillee after they stopped playing . Thanks!

@patrickdowdle5121 Күн бұрын

I am 60 now and i remember seeing the greatest team ever come to Australia in 1979 . I constantly badgered my parents to get me tickets to see Australia v W.Indies at the MCG. At Christmas i got the tickets and they were side on to the pitch right on the fence The West Indian bowlers were scary fast and watching the great man Viv Richards pummel us with the bat , was one of my greatest memories as a kid

@adamparker9765 Ай бұрын

He once said that he didn't know where the ball was going to go so what hope did the batsman have . The English had heard of Dennis lillee being quick , and he was , but the Aussies said you haven't seen anything yet , Thompson is quicker . They couldn't believe it but he was . The two together were extremely scary.

@michaelwebster8389 Ай бұрын

Good to see this. There are some other early bowlers like Larwood and Tyson that were also legendarily fast. Both are thought by some people to be the fastest of all time, but very difficult to measure. They have to take what footage there is, and try and come up with a measure from the old footage, which isn't very accurate.

@digimont 29 күн бұрын

Benaud saw Larwood and played against Tyson, rated Thommo as the fastest.

@KikiBabe-km2mm 22 күн бұрын

Thommo's first test he had a broken foot and was dropped from the Australian Test team and he was not included in the New South Wales State team as well. This really pissed Thommo off and he decided to target all State team players he encountered in club matches. On one occasion in a club game a NSW batsman knew Thommo would target him so he prepared by batting against the bowling machine set at 100 miles per hour at training sessions and claimed he was comfortable with facing that speed. When His turn to bat came was when the previous batsman retired hurt after being hit by a Thommo delivery. Apparently as the batsman was taking guard he was looking at a pool of blood from the previous batsman on the pitch. He was at ease with 100mph bowling, BUT not for what Thommo bowled. He claims it was a hell of a lot faster than 100mph and he could not see the ball and had no idea where the ball was. This was a Highly skilled 1st Class cricketer batting at number 4, so he was more than a capable batsman.

@TheKira699 Ай бұрын

Most Wicket Keepers, especially Rod Marsh, wore 'inners' inside the gloves. Usually made of Chamois and cotton and soaked in water prior to playing. The water absorbed some of the impact. Sounds crazy, but I used to use the same method when I played. It gives an extra barrier between Skin and Glove.

@KikiBabe-km2mm 22 күн бұрын

Thommo's top speed was recorded when he had not played competitive cricket for a year as he had not been cleared by the Australian Cricket Board to World Series Cricket. Thommo was sitting in the stadium half the day drinking beer when at the lunch break Kerry Packer the owner of World Series Cricket told Thommo he had to compete in the fastest bowler contest. Thommo was in a suit and had to borrow pants , shirt and shoes to compete and half drunk still won the competition, bowling 160km and also won the accuracy. And not played or trained in months.

@piripi40 Ай бұрын

It’s actually amazing Thommo never killed anyone. I’ve watched some fast bowlers in my time and the one who left an impression on me was Waqar Younis of Pakistan.

@rw-xf4cb 29 күн бұрын

Those fielding in slips also feared Thommo bowling and they were around 20m from the bat. Chappell/Walters etc have said this along with Rod Marsh.

@alanjhargreaves 18 күн бұрын

Not just the head, he had a ball called the sandshoe crusher. I remember watching Lillie and Thomo bowl against the West Indies at the SCG in 1976 with my grandfather. His unique action caused him major back problems as he aged.

@jonrichardson8461 13 күн бұрын

Not at the SCG in 1976. I was at that Test, and Lillee was injured and didn’t play. Lillee had back problems early in his career, not Thommo. Thommo was never quite the same after he dislocated his shoulder in a collision in the field in late 1976.

@tomfrombrunswick7571 22 күн бұрын

I remember seeing this guy bowl. He bowled so fast I could not see the ball come out of his hand. His speed also meant that he tended to lose control and the ball could go anywhere. Which if you are a batsman it living hell. You have a fraction of a second to make a decision about what shot to play. In addition some bowlers will bowl in a pattern. Thompson did not know where it was going so no batsman did either. His career was short as he injured his bowling arm and after he got back into the game he could not bowl as fast

@JGH1708 13 күн бұрын

The difference between fast bowling and pitching is that as a bowler you can hit batters anytime you like. Think Nolan Ryan being able to pitch the occasional ball into the middle of your back and it only being called a ball.

@MichaelWright-xd6zt Ай бұрын

Thomson was a player to be feared.. absolute weapon.

@richardknight4328 Ай бұрын

Thompson bowling action is different because he started as a javelin thrower in school.

@vp4744 Ай бұрын

Lillee more than Thompson changed cricket in another way: weightlifting. Until then bowlers were advised not to lift weights for fear of altering their finely developed bowling arm muscles. Lillee proved that wrong. Now every bowler's workout follows Lillee's regimen, especially dragging weights gladiator style. Thompson and Lillee were certainly the most feared pair until West Indies players became faster and more accurate. Thompson did not have as much ball control as Lillee did, but in those days the pitches were erratic for this style of pace bowling. Once the pitches were fixed and the batsmen figured out how to handle pace, it was easy to score runs. That's how India won its very first World Cup soon after touring West Indies.

@RealFansSports Ай бұрын

Thanks for the history lesson! Yeah I always find it interesting how the ideas behind training change through the generations. I’m a personal trainer and with baseball they used to believe that working out shoulders caused injuries but now it has been proven the opposite

@denisbryce8746 17 күн бұрын

Thommo as he was known, was actually clocked at 110 MPH in the early days of recording speeds. He was quoted as saying, "If I don't know where the ball is going, what chance have those poor bastards got (referring to the Batsmen). Thommo holds the record of breaking the most bats in Test Cricket, (24).

@jonrichardson8461 13 күн бұрын

Dont believe he was ever clocked at more than 100. Still the fastest ever, at least that I’ve seen in 55 years.

@geoffmaloney2717 Ай бұрын

A couple of tidbits on Thommo. Was from my hometown suburb in Sydney. Played for my soccer club (is about ten years older than me) was banned for life for punching a referee. I would ride my bike down to the local oval to watch him play local (Grade) cricket. Would open the bowling with another Australian bowler Len Pascoe. Both terrifyingly quick. As you say this is before helmets around 1973. He then moved to Queensland (a state north of New South Wales) and while playing for Queensland his housemate was killed by a cricket ball while playing grade cricket fielding in close. Helmets were introduced for both batting and in close around 1977. His delivery was also very difficult for batsmen because they need to watch the ball in the bowlers hand. Coming from behind him, it cut down the batters time to see the ball and what type of ball he was bowling.

@JamesWilliams-ki7im 9 күн бұрын

I saw Jeff Thomson playing for Australia several times in Sydney. He was literally like lightning. Rod Marsh was standing back over 20 yards and catching the ball at head height! I played soccer with Jeff’s nephew, Matthew for a bunch of years. Nice guy. I never got to meet Jeff though. I also played cricket and copied Jeff’s bowling style perfectly. It absolutely generated more power. I’ve tried to explain this sling shot action to many people but they just don’t realise how effective it is. The difference in the foot action allows your bowling arm to start the sling shot action with your hand pointing straight down at the ground… which gives approximately an extra 70-90 degrees of rotation before releasing the ball. If you watch videos of Jeff’s action, his arm goes through an approximate 200 degree arc before releasing the ball. The normal bowling action only allows approximately 100 degrees before release. He really should receive more recognition for his unique style… and I believe it should be taught to new bowlers because of its mechanical advantages.

@raffisekzenian2746 11 күн бұрын

The batsman had just under 1/2 second from the time the ball left his hand to the time they hit the ball (or the ball hit the batsman). In reality, they had about 1/4 second to make a decision on how they were going to play the shot and 1/4 second to play it. They relied on the body language of the bowler to figure out where the body would hit the ground.

@DavidUKesb Ай бұрын

For a short period probably the fastest ever. There's nothing more thrilling in cricket than seeing a genuine fast bowler live as it's much much faster than it looks on TV. If you're watching 'side-on' you won't even see it.

@colinhackwood4701 Ай бұрын

The bloke who said he was after blood was lying, you get people out by hitting the bat for catches, hitting the pads in front of the wickets,or hitting the wickets, it's terrifying when the ball bounces higher, because the faster you bowl, the more it bounces in general, he got heaps of people out, if he aimed for heads he would get nobody out, but he did sometimes try to intimidate batsman by bowling a short ball if the batsman was scoring runs off him

@johng1216 4 күн бұрын

Trying to watch a cricket ball travelling at 100 miles per hour, is like watching a Formula 1 car going past you at 220 miles per hour. You think you see it, but you don't, it's a blur. This man was awsome and deserves full respect on his ability.

@mondotv4216 10 күн бұрын

Actually I don't think he ever said he aimed for the head - although he might have said that once to intimidate the Poms. What he did say, which is perhaps more frightening, was he wasn't sure where the ball was going and if he didn't know he was damn sure the batsman at the other end didn't. At 100mph plus from about 19.5 yards away. Apart from being fast he possessed a wicked yorker and bouncer.

@richo2418 Ай бұрын

In Thommo’s day, as he explains in an interview with Sachin Tendulkar, the speed was measured at the batsman’s stumps. When live speeds started the bowlers were no where near Jeff’s 160km/h mark and Kerry Packer wanted higher speeds so the more modern radars now the speed from the bowlers hand, not at the opposite end. This means that Jeff could actually have bowled at 175-180km/h if bowling today. Also note it wasn’t unusual for Jeff to see the ball to go over the keepers head and over the boundary without touching the ground after bouncing on the pitch. You don’t see that these days!

@WaynePeake-lm5sg 17 күн бұрын

Yes he was bowling at about 180kms an hour.

@patrickdowdle5121 Күн бұрын

Some of the greatest moments in cricket is not the bowling or batting , but the sledging that goes on not only between opposing players , but also between fans and opposition players. Even MCC members of Lords are notorious sledgers , as opposition batsmen have to go passed them

@lanceMollenhauer-mf1xz Күн бұрын

Jeff Thompson was also New South Wales javalin champion. The great Freddy Truman (Englishman) was also terrifying.

@yendor9078 16 күн бұрын

Rod Marsh wasn't only the best wicket keeper the world has seen, he was also very handy with the bat. A true allrounder.

@wizofoz0605 13 күн бұрын

Errr... no... Irongloves Marsh was not even the best keeper of his time. Allan Knott had him covered comfortably. And there have been better Australian keepers since, notably Ian Heally. Bacchus was a very good gloveman and occasionally good batsman. I was at the MCG the day Bill Lawry declared when Marsh was in the 90's and would have been the first australian keeper to make 100. He was a dynamic player and part of the culture that made the Aussie teams of the 70's and 80's so powerful, but he was not 'the best wicket keeper of all time'

@chrispetritsch1291 Ай бұрын

In case you don't know, it's about 70 feet from where the bowler lets it go to where the batsman is standing and the same distance again to the wicketkeeper. Also, Thommo regularly exceeded 160 km/hr until he badly injured his shoulder in the late 70's.

@wizofoz0605 13 күн бұрын

It is exactly 22 yards - (1 chain or 66 feet) from stump to stump.(around 20 mts). The bowler releases the ball from the front or 'popping' crease which is 4 ft in front of the stumps at the bowlers end. The batsman also stand around about the popping crease at the recieving end, so the distance between the delivery of the ball and the batsmans normal stance is (66-8) around 58 feet.

@brankosavage6377 8 күн бұрын

Take it from an Aussie Kid that grew up in the seventies. If your elbow does not bend it is considered a Fair Bowl. Jeff Thompson is undoubtably an Aussie Cricket Legend.

@AndrewJennings-uk5vo 2 сағат бұрын

Jeff Thomson had several spinal fractures from bowling , I saw him crossing street a couple of years ago and he walks with a bent back

@gadget133 3 күн бұрын

Jeff Thompson was an animal of a bowler. He would thump in yorkers (toe crushes) at 150 kph (95 miles) and then dig a short one aiming straight for the batters head at 160 kph (100 miles). Batters regularly found themselves on the floor either from being hit or just jumping out of the way. Partner him up with Dennis (stay-clear-or-get-hurt) Lilly and you had arguable the scariest bowling line-up in modern day cricket. It has been said that Thompson bowled a ball at 170 kph (105 miles) but the way they timed it from footage was a bit dubious so has never really been accepted. The two of them were so good that Toohey’s (Australian beer brand) wrote a whole advertising campaign about them with a song describing playing against them and with them was written.

@s.e.wagger3888 8 күн бұрын

Check out the story of Douglas Jardine. He was the original "head-hunter" of Cricket. There was a mini-series called "Bodyline" that details how he bowled at Aussie Cricketers, way 'back in the day'.

@mithrasrevisited4873 Ай бұрын

He tended to go for the toes not the head. He liked the toe crusher. Sandshoe crusher as said by someone else in the comments.

@nicholasunion4362 Ай бұрын

See if you can find Thomson's bowling his unique "sand shoe crusher" to Tony Greig. I was lucky enough to watch Lillei and Thomson bowl at a 42 year old Sir Colin Cowdrey (74/75 Ashes Series) a middle aged man batting against L & T.......balls of steel....never would tell that to an English man.

@electronwave4551 29 күн бұрын

I was at the WACA. When Cowdrey came out to bat, there was a noticeable murmur throughout the crowd. Everyone anticipated he would be slaughtered. From memory, he didn't bat great, but took a hell of a beating and didn't buckle.

@patrickdowdle5121 Күн бұрын

One reporter quoted Thommo's bowling action as "You dump a cricket ball in kerosene, light it on fire and launch it out of a cannon and then you'll get something like Jeff Thomson."

@GM-sc3pt 15 сағат бұрын

When Tony Grieg first came to Australia, playing for England, his team team mates told him how frightening Thompson was. Grieg thought they were just trying to frighten him, so wasn't worried, when he faced Thompson. Thompson sent down a top speed bowl, to rattle him. It came so so fast, Grieg didn't have time to move his bat, before he heard it whizz past his ear. Then he made the mistake of looking around and saw it break the top off a picket on the back fence. Then he was really worried. Thompson was the only the only fast bowler the West Indians were afraid of. They specialised in fast bowling.

@fruitopia6798 29 күн бұрын

There is very little real data on bowling speeds from back then, it was considered too impractical for TV, everything took a long time and man hours to set up and calibrate the cameras, then it took a couple of days of checking and calculating to get the result. Just based on the distance the wicketkeeper and slips are standing back and the distance the ball is carrying past the batsman it looks like Thomson has a few kmh on anybody in the 21st century but who can really say for certain. Thomson was measured over perhaps a dozen balls in his entire career, current bowlers are measured over every ball in every match in every format. Thomson broke many toes and fingers and stumps but amazingly I dont think he ever hit a batsman in the head.

@rayhume1 8 күн бұрын

My Dad and Brother had a couple of racehorses once, one was called Court Marsh and the second was called Bold Lilly, as a tribute to that great time in Australian Cricket, we have been blessed with a good deal of depth with our bowlers, apart from the speedsters what about the late great Shane Warne, as Thompson was a freak with speed, Shane could make that ball do what he wanted it to do, take a look at the skill and movement of the ball both in the air and when it hit the ground at the perfect length to confuse and bamboozle the bejazus out of any opponent. Lille loved to torment as well another great accurate line and length bowler... good memories from childhood thank you.

@stuartrowley1981 Ай бұрын

Thomo's first practice game was against the poms and his captain told him to bowl dead slow at them so the could surprise them in a proper international game. The pons thought this guys easy to play against we don't understand the hype behind him. Then first proper game came a week later and thommo released hell and fury on them and took wickets so fast and broke the cup one pom was wearing that it opened up and allowed his groin to pop out thru the crack in the cup and close back up on his groin on the wrong side of the protective cup. Lol

@simob7862 2 күн бұрын

Just to clarify the term throw or chuck is also another name for wide or no ball. The bowling line at the end of they send a ball down and the bowler foot is over the line is a no ball if the ball bounces and swings way off over to the left or right side it’s a wide.

@matthewcharles5867 Ай бұрын

He was scary quick and also very fit.

@rogergreen9861 5 күн бұрын

Reaaaaaally glad you player the delivery that hit dear old Bumble in the balls. He was interviewed about it and said that the plastic protector was mashed into bits and everything that was supposed to be inside it was on the outside. He also says he loses his voice on the anniversary😅 Thommo wrecked his right shoulder in an on-field collision going for a catch early in 1976 (google Thommo Turner Adelaide). He came back almost as quick as he had been, and would bowl the ball back to the wicket when fielding on the boundary because of that damage. I was sitting behind his arm as he bowled in a State comp, and the blur of the ball as it fizzed past the batsman was made worse because it came from so far behind his back in the blink of an eye. He also was banned from soccer for life as a teen for punching a ref. I did not know about his javelin experience, and now get where the foot crossover came from. Hardest part of the action is to commit to that shuffle at full tilt, while arching hard. As the grandson of an American that moved here after WW2 and raised me in the 70s, I saw first-hand the look of concern on his face when watching our best in Test cricket, or our world-beating rugby league, or the mayhem of Aussie Rules. We like our sport dangerous.

@trevorkrause7220 5 күн бұрын

The main wicket keeper of the Australian Cricket Team, Rodney Marsh, used to place raw steaks in his wicket keeping gloves before commencing play to help protect his palms and wrists from the blows of continually catching or stopping the thunderbolt deliveries from Thompson and Lillee. His hands probably smelled terrible by the end of the day's play but at least his could still have some feeling and flex in his hands, fingers and wrists.

@ROBOTVEDYT Ай бұрын

Haha, nice! Zach has a Brisbane Heat hat on.

@nickjames7719 28 күн бұрын

As an Aussie back in the Day, Sunburned half Pissed (drunk) Rod Marsh behind the wickets, with Jeff Thomson from one end Dennis Lilly thundering in from the other end, Mate that was cricket. Cricket never better than those days. These days we have cheats, then the worst things was letting those same cheaters represent Australian again 😢😢 no integrity I would think representing your country would be awesome, so why would you jeopardize that. No way no how ever. That's the reason I don't watch cricket these days. 😮 But back in the day, Thommo was a GOAT.100%

@peterGHill-wp7px 9 күн бұрын

GOAT means Greatest Of All Time Time and Tommo was that!!

@davidhales8799 6 күн бұрын

I stopped watching when they started taking the knee before games.

@nobikeman 4 күн бұрын

As a kid Thommo was my favourite bowler even though I didn’t get to see much of him play. I even used to bowl using his action but it wasn’t easy and would switch to and from a conventional action.

@anthonygrimston4937 8 күн бұрын

I’m unsure if it’s already been mentioned, Rod Marsh the wicket keeper, would place pieces of steak inside his gloves to damping the impact of the ball on his hands, especially with Thompson & Lillie.. I used to love watching Thompson & Lillie bowling in the test matches.. Great to see the USA is taking an interest in cricket. Top job fellas 😀👍

@bradleyedwards9244 6 күн бұрын

Loved coming home from school and watching the Thompson, Lillee and Marsh trio during the West Indies/Australia domination of cricket. Lillee /Thompson for bowling and Marsh for the batting, not the best but a slogger and always entertaining. Good days

@patrickdowdle5121 Күн бұрын

Jeff Thompson in his first test took 0/110 against Pakistan . Quite an inauspicious start to his career to say the least , yet the man became one of the most feared fast bowlers of his time . Another bowler who had the same start to his career was Shane Warne, who took just one wicket for 150 runs against India in 1992 . Little did we know that Warne would take 708 test wickets in his career, second only to Sri Lankan great Muttiah Muralitharan who took 800 wickets in his career

@PaulMcAtee 3 күн бұрын

Thomo's 161km bowling was also AFTER he had a full shoulder reconstruction.

@catherinewilson1102 9 күн бұрын

The poem actually went “Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, if Lillee don’t get you, Thommo must”

@joewalsh3404 Ай бұрын

A fellow Bankstown (Sydney) boy - I was in high school with him and Len Pascoe in the early to mid 1960s. I believe his mother and sister were champion javelin throwers.

@adamparker9765 Ай бұрын

That's very interesting and not uprising at all because the same fast twitch muscle fibres are used . I used to throw javelin as a school boy and represented Australia . I could also bowel pretty quick. Not anywhere near Thompsons level of course but I skittled a lot of batsman at local level.

@guymcredmond6463 16 сағат бұрын

This doesn't even show footage from the 74/75 Ashes series. His bowling in that was the fastest anyone has ever bowled a cricket ball.

@COBBETT1215 Ай бұрын

You should check out the great West Indies teams of the 70's and 80's. They bowled with a battery of FOUR fast bowlers, each one bowling at or near Thompsons pace. Check out Michael Holding from that team. They called him whispering death because of his speed in bowling and the way he glided in to bowl. They dominated cricket with these bowlers and some great batsmen.

@tonyhyde2644 26 күн бұрын

he was often so fast that his bouncers often cleared the boundary, plus he often shattered stumps and cart wheeled them 30 metres back!

@CLAWCUZBRO Ай бұрын

TOMO..TOMO..TOMO.. we would chant slowly lol

@jlc1306 22 күн бұрын

Brilliant cricketing era - Thomson/Lillee bowling (and others), great fielding, amazing wicket keeping. What a team. Noteworthy it has to be bowled on wicket. Wides would grant opposition a run. So to be so fast and accurate is to be admired.

@hudsonsled454 Ай бұрын

He did some drag racing after he retired, I seen him a few times at my local track in his Chevy impala.

@moopius 6 күн бұрын

Those were the golden days, Thompson, Lillee, Rod Marsh, Chappell brothers and Max Walker. And who remembers when Rick Darling got hit by the bouncer from Willis and was carted off the field unconscious after his heart stopped, only to come back on the next day like nothing had happened?

@RealFansSports 6 күн бұрын

That’s insanity! Glad that he was ok!

@mikemoore2791 14 күн бұрын

Era i grew up watching. Awesome.

@gordoncooke6785 12 күн бұрын

Saw thompson and lilly against west indies with garner 6foot7 , Michael holding, adelade test.no helmets, big balls.

@SeekerShivG Ай бұрын

Guyz u have seen enough videos on cricket, now its time to vlog your own cricket match . Please give it a try and play the game once. I am really looking forward to see u guyz playing cricket. Love your videos ❤

@RealFansSports Ай бұрын

I wish it was that simple but where we live there is not much cricket that goes on. We are going to try to go to a game for the t20 World Cup though and do a vlog.

@user-dh6yl7lo2s 8 күн бұрын

What you can't see from the head on angle of the video is that the 'keeper (catching the ball) is almost 50 yards from the bowler.

@petervad 25 күн бұрын

I watched him play in the 70s. There were a couple of times in his career when he bowled the ball into the pitch and it went over the batter's head, over the keeper's head and went over the fence on the full; that's 80-100metres! Often he would bowl like that and it would only bounce once before going over the boundary; he was that quick. Also when he was timed at 160kph, it was in a fast bowling competition that was conducted while he was suspended. He was in the bar at the ground at the time drinking beer. The boss came down and said, hey, there's a fast bowling competition happening now downstairs, what are you doing here, get down there and compete. He had been drinking, he was not playing, he had to borrow whites and boots because he didn't have any with him, and he WON! There is little doubt he was often bowling in the 170k's.

@wizofoz0605 13 күн бұрын

Most of what you say here is true. the 'boss' was Kerry Packer who founded and funded World Series Cricket. The West Indian quicks were having a fast bowling timed demo when Thommo came out of the bar, borrowed some gear and joined in. The story is that the WI quicks were bowling fast bouncers, but Thommo was smarter and bowled full tosses which have less distance to travel and do not lose speed through impact. thus he was faster, notwithstanding the impediments of drinking, unfitness and borrowed gear.