Please do. That would be a great read.

drive.google.com/file/d/0B6xke8CjWeEuT0VwdlY4TG5sR28/view?usp=sharing

Oh VHS ! Thanks, I now understand the relatively poor quality of this video. It's interesting, though, but could have been much better with an engineer actually acting the different components and switches, and explaining them, than an added voice (think of a plane cockpit visit) Thanks for sharing !

Why is there only 33 pages out of like 150?

Instead of printing them I recommend doing it as a downloadable PDF file which the downloaded can print when he or she wants. Nice catch! Cheers

Right? If i need to operate a P42, this video omitted one key detail, where the hell is the entire crew? The LSA is even more qualified to operate these than i.

I wont operate it either, only et44ac, es44ac, es40dc, cw44ac, sd70ac, etc

A **RETIRED** UPRR "Operator," Excuse ME!!! Let me hock out & Chock OUT my CUD of SKOAL!!! DAMMIT!!!!!!!! DONE!!!!!!!! I, on the JOB, the J-O-B, have OPERATED...uh. Full STOP!!! Have ***RUN*** these units FIVE TIMES, SEE?!? Have Also RUN--Not "OPERATED" Nor have "DRIVEN," as I am from the UNITED STATES of the AMERICA...to REPEAT to WORLD, but also to those in **THIS** NATION who need CLARIFACATION, I have indeed *RUN* every AMTRAK Locomotive currently in service (excluding all ELECTRIC UNITS Currently in service), and am proud of this fact!!!

You just watch the video about a locomotive they getting ready to retire now LOL but it is interesting to see it explain brand new back in the day...

Very interesting

Please find a way to digitize them and put them up here on KZfaq!

coolleo149 Smith County, Texas mine is f59 and p42

The most powerful in Amtrak inventory.

Yes!! Is so much better than the Siemens SC-44

@@oldspiceaviation143 yeah for as frustrating as they can be those Chargers can get up and go!!

What about the P40DC?

It's a German braking system. See the Knorr-Bremse logo on the brake handle module.

They will be, starting in 2021-24.

The first ALC-42 has been delivered to amtrak, introduction to service pending.

@@HNMusic13 service has been for a while now. Just look at Hiawatha and Cascades services. They use the new Chargers. New Chargers are now in service sometimes on the SWC, but it's rare.

And god help you america p42s are the "bomb"chargers are ugly junk!

yomyovi well...what do you do for work? Did you join Amtrak?

Did you get the job?

yomyovi did you get it

Did you get the job?

Get the job you did?

Where is it at??

I'd be interested in hearing from you on engineer v. conductor job choice.

@@34jared: when I worked for CSX there was no choice, per se. They hire you as a conductor, after roughly 2 years you become eligible for engineer. If you don't take it, or don't make it through the school, you're out. I have a friend who's an Amtrak engineer. He started out in track maintenance, then conductor then engineer. It's a pretty tough job, esp. when you start out. You work on what's called the Extra Board when they call you. It's basically eat, sleep and work. That's how it is until you build up seniority, which takes about 10 years. You might only work enough to be paid the minimum, which is called the guarantee. It's a good job, but the hours suck. From what I hear, like any government job, Amtrak's management sucks big time. If you stay out of their way and obey all the rules - and there are a ton of 'em - you'll do ok.

@KutWrite It’s like that anywhere. The class 1 I work for has a one year rule, one year as a qualified conductor before you can consider going to engineer school. Then on the job training for 100 or do trips, then you are on your own. That said I do believe management sucks at any class 1 railroad! When I first started this old head said to me, “Welcome to the (anonymous company name). They spent much money on your training for the last couple of months. Now they are gonna spend the next thirty years trying to fire you. Good luck, kid.” Extra board is the same, eat, sleep, work, sleep, rinse, repeat.... Every once in a while a guy can bid for vacation vacancy of an old head goes on vacation. That’s been rare lately though as there has been huge layoffs lately. That’s all I got for now! I’m out.

@@34jared dude. didnt see this till just now.its been an amazing transition. I had no idea how little I knew as a conductor compared to how much my eyes have been opened as an engineer. Best. Decision. Ever.

@@dh-_1011 also, late reply but I totally agree with that policy. Everyone should definitely be required to be a conductor first. I worked for 9 years on the train before I went to engine school (every single craft -dining/coach attendant, conductor, etc) and it helped me immensely being exposed the RR before engine service. Also. Been qualified over a year now and LOVE IT!! : )

This isn't Europe, we 'operate' the loco here.

ALL the DASh 8s!

+praise gaben yaas

praise gaben Yreap.

That’s a whole bunch of bad info. But more than anything, freight trains do NOT operate at 70 PSI train line. They operate at 90 PSI on ALL freight lines.

@@FFred-us9tw I got that information from reading about passenger train air brakes and why a passenger train may need to run freight train air brake systems when a substituting a non passenger locomotive into the consist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_air_brake. Read down to working pressures and it will describe freight trains running 70 - 90 psi.

@@douglasengle2704 That’s a Wikipedia page and in typically fashion it’s outdated and filled with wrong information. All modern freight trains operate at 90PSI Brake Pipe pressure in what is known as DIRECT RELEASE. Most passenger railroads will operate at 110PSI in GRADUATED RELEASE. You can actually read the entire FRA CFR (Code of federal regulations) online. It’s boring but educational if you want to understand how they work better.

Amtrack has always been a loser. If it was a private enterprise, it would have ceased operation long ago.

@@josephjames259 You are a certified moron.

@@erikgustafson1410 I stated a fact. You didn’t.

Same

Same

Agreed!

That’s because you never had to run one.

Meanwhile VIA still runs the F40PH’s, and with the new Charger’s, are freeing the F40’s to run long distance exclusively.

I want one in mint green, metalic paint, with a racing stripe on each side!!

Call up GE lol

Timothy Barr Might I ask where you obtained such a manual?

+ThePlutoniumGamer you'll be surprised what you'll find on Ebay

Interesting, is it for sale,?

+Andrew Armstrong This is way beyond their ability to absorb. Besides, Congress is in the pockets of the freight haulers.

+Locomotive450 This was made by the same sort of Federal idiots who make army training films. Anyone who has been in the army will instantly recognize this. By the way, whoever designed the interior of the locomotive sure likes the color brown. As I said, idiots.

+New Yakisoba Far better than that gross green EMD loved to use so much.

Ah,General Electric, I think GE only does that to keep heat out.

Andrew Armstrong Exactly.

i really really really hope so, say "Amtrak" and it's an ol F40PH in Phase III grey-green-silver body with red-blue-white stripes that people think of. Britain invented the railway but I'd kill to commute on a Genesis and an F40PH or go long haul over 700 miles without a breakdown in perfect Superliner comfort. Damn Britain, we have a Victorian-era railway where even commuter DMUs struggle to avoid having the roof taken off by a 200 year old tunnel (quite literally, they had to remove the aircon from the Class 158s going to Buxton because the aircon air intake scoops would be sliced off by an ancient tunnel). Vista Lounge - wasn't that some dodgy software that came preinstalled on a white box 2008 PC along with a 30 second free trial of Office 2007?!

From the 90's?

Alphonso Zorro YES 1990’s

Wood working

They were Millions of dollars each, $3.5Mil each or so?, so at that price may have had those expensive TFF screens !? ... like my first digital watch 1978, $1200 ouch, that are now free or $0.25 walmart :) Electronics and DCS Controls etc sure have become more cost effective over the years.

the p42dc locomotive series has 16 cylinders and 4,250 horsepower

Diesel electric

Even with empty fuel tanks, you can get her to roll with just the starter batteries. IDK if that was ever used or just a sales gimmick connecting the starter batteries to the traction motors to move short distances. Neat idea though.

I once read someone's statement that the P-40/42 cabs must have been engineered by someone with tunnel vision. Look at the windshield area.

Yeah but all that amazing grade school graffiti in the bathrooms for 20 years? You can't beat that.

If the railroad that owns the Loco ordered the JOG feature, then yes.

As noted, if the P-42 was a dedicated passenger loco there wouldn't be a "freight" position on that switch. Using a "freight" position in emergency on a lightweight passenger train would invite a lot of injuries with that heavy duty braking function. In case Amtrack went belly up or loco replacement the P-42 would still be a useful loco for freight.

Before rebuild, the P40DCs had it.

I found what is claomed to be a downloadable copy here cloud1.pw/1/download1.php?file=ge+p42+manual

The horn sequencer and radio?

Cause those don't get used often. Those switches gotta go somewhere : )

Of course, why wouldn't it be? Many if not most engineers I know have families. They just need to be very understanding.

These loco’s came with David Clark headset stations set up for three seating positions. They have long since been disconnected but most loco’s still have these stations in them.

In a way. There's multiple engine areas and yes, you can pretty safely shove from the rear area. Though its very loud. : )

yes

Amtrakeng Only when they were factory new. LMAO

Whoever built it must have had microscopic fingers.

+Ham549 VIA?

+Big T long distance Canadian version of Amtrak. Just type in VIA RAIL 640... and you will see the rebuilt F40ph's.

More like VIA FAIL. Viva La Amtrak!

Ask almost anyone who works with locomotives and they will tell you the F40s are better.

Ham549 I disagree.

Amtrak does still have a vision benefit. At an average employee cost to Amtrak of over $100K, it would take quite a "pay cut" to make them even close to breakeven. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nN2aqsiBypOsnXU.html

Because the old-time glasses look goofy today. I see you didn't watch the "Why are trains so expensive?" video I linked. On average, Amtrak pays over $100K for every employee on the gravy train...I mean...payroll. You may not like hearing that, especially while living in Taxachusetts, but it's the truth. Only Amtrak could charge $12 for a cheeseburger, and lose money while doing it. Amtrak is a government union giveaway to buy votes, not a business. If it was a business, it would have shut down long ago. Here's another educational video for you to ignore: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o8h1md2mqLLTcYU.html

Ah, read some of your foaming-at-the-mouth lefty screeds on Disqus. Have a nice life, you're blocked.

I thought Bill Clinton was the one who signed that NAFTA thing.

Flip up seat, piss or poop, flip seat down.

1995-98

I think all the relevant documentation (including the operating manual) should come with your locomotive. Please check the inside of the packaging.

Damian De lmao...I mean, you're not wrong. On a seriously note, finding the manual in PDF is going to be tough. It's most likely not shared outside higher up personal at Amtrak due to security.

Any other operating manual

+Bill Greek hohoho!!!!!! merry christmas!!!!!

Nobody could steal them, who’s got the time?

João Felipe Oliveira Alves e Silva on the older locomotives we called it the engineers area, throttle, air brake controls etc..

João Felipe Oliveira Alves e Silva A control area on a GE locomotive is a compartment where electrical equipment is located. Most GE units have CA1 through CA9.

They can go through the locomotive and into one of the passenger cars that houses a bathroom.

Yes, they all do. The door behind the engineer seat goes down two steps and there’s a door on your right that opens to a toilet comport.

I get it... the shape of the independent lever! Circumcised!

*snip* *snip*

craig canterbury agreed!

Anthony Taylor Network The F40PH engines are nice, but I like the AMD-103 engines.

Me too, I will always be a fan of the f40ph, takes me back to being a kid and watching the Empire Builder come into Lacrosse.

How can it be ugly