An Act of Treason? Rhaenyra tells Queen Alicent the "truth" of her night out with Daemon

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@kynnwinwin5650
@kynnwinwin5650 Жыл бұрын
She did not lie about sleeping with Daemon. She did lie about her "virtue" being intact.
@fortheloveofcats2462
@fortheloveofcats2462 Жыл бұрын
She never said anything of that sort either, she swore that Daemon didn't take her virginity upon her mother's memory, which was true.
@atiqahdiyana5665
@atiqahdiyana5665 Жыл бұрын
And it’s unfair that it’s made into a big deal in the first place. Men are allowed to sleep with other women as much as they want before marriage. They can even force themselves on other women and still not be seen at fault even though the woman would be. So the standards shouldn’t be any different for women. Laenor slept around with other men (which is twice as scandalous) and it was practically an open secret among everyone and no one said a word. Rhaenyra slept with harwin and suddenly she’s a whore. It doesn’t matter her sons weren’t legitimate by blood. Laenor and viserys both accepted them fully regardless and that’s all that matters. Especially since both boys were gonna marry daemons daughters so it wasn’t like the valeryon blood was lost.
@STargaryan
@STargaryan Жыл бұрын
She didn't lie she omitted the truth...
@tuplat5107
@tuplat5107 Жыл бұрын
​@@STargaryan "Daemon never touched me" what part of that wasn't a lie?
@Midnightsstan521
@Midnightsstan521 Жыл бұрын
He did touch her… that’s what she swore he didn’t
@courtneypeet9131
@courtneypeet9131 Жыл бұрын
I love how alicent looks so disgusted. Baby girl you marry your son and daughter to each other AND they have kids
@maddisonanne2432
@maddisonanne2432 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it was necessarily disgust towards her being with her uncle, more so disgust that she would throw away her maidenhood so recklessly when she and Viserys had been trying so hard to find her an acceptable suitor. Also - Engaging in incest and coercing it are two different things so it may very well be disgust towards Rhaenyra's intimate relations lmao, but that was also customary back then, had been for hundreds of years when Aegon the Conqueror married his two sister-wives Visenya and Rhaenys, all the way up until Aerys the Second, more commonly known as the Mad King, married his sister-wife Rhaella, so Daenerys' brothers are also her cousins.
@courtneypeet9131
@courtneypeet9131 Жыл бұрын
@@maddisonanne2432 it wasn't customary at all hence why earlier in the scene Allicent to even says to rheanera that you targaryens have queer customs so obviously it wasn't normal and if you look on her face during the whole interaction she is disgusted with rheanera
@ritadelio5139
@ritadelio5139 Жыл бұрын
which son?
@courtneypeet9131
@courtneypeet9131 Жыл бұрын
@@ritadelio5139 Aegon
@courtneypeet9131
@courtneypeet9131 Жыл бұрын
@@isabellapierre5977 pretty sure she married them to spite the offer of her daughter marrying rheaneras son
@ragethewolf
@ragethewolf Жыл бұрын
I am not questioning your virtue lady. I am just denying it's existence - Lord Tyrion Lannister
@elizabethedwards4686
@elizabethedwards4686 Жыл бұрын
Close but “I'm not questioning your honor, Lord Janos. I'm denying its existence.”
@thomasvoiden8562
@thomasvoiden8562 Жыл бұрын
​@@elizabethedwards4686 no shit Sherlock
@suhailbhat1996
@suhailbhat1996 Жыл бұрын
Gods writing used to be so strong those days
@dmin5782
@dmin5782 Жыл бұрын
@@elizabethedwards4686 That's exactly what they were referencing LMAO
@TheV8Pumpkin
@TheV8Pumpkin Жыл бұрын
*any girl who must say shes a spectator is no true spectator*
@viva3879
@viva3879 Жыл бұрын
out of context it looks like they are a couple and Alicent is upset because she thinks Rhaenyra cheated on her 😂
@nessyness5447
@nessyness5447 Жыл бұрын
I mean, i think the creators did mention something about making the characters in the show be more than platonic, like their intention was for people to interpret that they did had romantic feelings for each other and that is part of why their falling out and the whole mess around it was even more tragic.
@baileyiscool1792
@baileyiscool1792 10 ай бұрын
Fr they had the saddest medieval breakup💀
@TaeSunWoo
@TaeSunWoo 10 ай бұрын
The directors and actresses both confirmed the girls are bi so yeah 😂
@selenamartinez2493
@selenamartinez2493 8 ай бұрын
@@TaeSunWoothat alicent and rhaenyra are bi?
@lawfulhusbands
@lawfulhusbands 8 ай бұрын
this is literally what the context was screaming to me. Alicent was completely the jealous girlfriend losing it and Rhaenyra went so far as to lie on her mother's memory because she was afraid of her girlfriend finding out 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@pennylane6185
@pennylane6185 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Aemma in heaven: ಠ⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠ಠ "don't bring into this mess"
@ensulalachance8353
@ensulalachance8353 7 ай бұрын
😂
@xtxpxhx
@xtxpxhx 7 ай бұрын
she married her cousin, i think she might overlook certain things
@higharchbishopofteatasting6217
@higharchbishopofteatasting6217 6 ай бұрын
​@@xtxpxhxnot sleeping with her uncle out of wedlock lmfao.
@raenpadron3207
@raenpadron3207 Жыл бұрын
I really like how there's a fine line between her loving Rahenyra and being envious of her freedom. You really don't know what she's jealous about and it's up to interpretation.
@casio4067
@casio4067 Жыл бұрын
"I didnt do anything!" *sneaks out of the palace to make out with daemon, half naked in a brothel"
@No-qb1qb
@No-qb1qb Жыл бұрын
I mean it’s no one’s business to be honest who she sleeps with or not alicent was sleeping with her father behind her back but apparently age only applies to Alicent and not rheanyra
@aqmasher5793
@aqmasher5793 Жыл бұрын
​@@No-qb1qb Alicent didn't sleep with king before their marriage. Because if Viserys chose someone else to marry, it would be hard to find lord who would wed Alicent without her virginity.
@casio4067
@casio4067 Жыл бұрын
@@No-qb1qb and shes the princess. For reasons other than the 1400s ideaologies, she could have been murdered, kidnapped, raped, sold into slavery etc etc etc. It doesnt matter whose "buisness" it is. She acted recklessly. And SHE WAS 14
@b.b.s7545
@b.b.s7545 Жыл бұрын
Her mother ashes are rolling in the wind
@Minecraftrok999
@Minecraftrok999 Жыл бұрын
​@@No-qb1qb oh but in medieval politics it WAS everyone's business who slept with who. That was literally how dynasties were guaranteed and remember, they claimed rule by divine right which gets passed along to the children.
@TheReal_Antrey
@TheReal_Antrey Жыл бұрын
Princess Rhaenyra, Im not questioning your virtue. Im denying its existence.
@truebeliever786
@truebeliever786 2 ай бұрын
"To question my virtue is an act of treason." "I'm not questioning your virtue, Princess Rhaenyra, I'm denying its existence."
@l.g.2888
@l.g.2888 Жыл бұрын
"Help you" my ass. If she wanted to help she would have either kept her mouth shut or come to Rhaenyra to warn her, not condemn, accuse, or judge her. The most charitable interpretation here is that Alicent was jealous at the thought of Rhaenyra being with someone else/being with someone she actually wants.
@captaindesperatehousewife7138
@captaindesperatehousewife7138 Жыл бұрын
Supporting a crime punishable by death does not "Help". To help is to prevent your childhood friend from literally getting killed, looked down, and viewed as a person with no morals or responsibility to the law or tradition. On top of that, Alicent is the Queen, keeping shut is like asking the King not to concern himself in any political matter revolving around his city. Alicent isn't jealous, simply annoyed at how Rhaenyra lied to her on behalf of her mother the Gods, got her father fired and suffer because of it, broke plenty of law and traditions, murdered and harmed plenty of people, and gaslighted Alicent multiple times while still dealing with no form of consequence. I suggest you rewatch the show or erase your mentality entirely...
@desara13
@desara13 Жыл бұрын
​@@captaindesperatehousewife7138 No 💙
@captaindesperatehousewife7138
@captaindesperatehousewife7138 Жыл бұрын
@@desara13 😭😭😭😭🥺🥺🥺 NOOO
@kaleahcollins4567
@kaleahcollins4567 Жыл бұрын
if she wanted to help her she would have told her her father's plans to marry her to her besties father she would have told rainiera like listen this is what my father is trying to make me do you're my best friend I don't want to do this how do you feel about this then rainiera would have went to the King complained and then there wouldn't have been any War
@kaleahcollins4567
@kaleahcollins4567 Жыл бұрын
​@@captaindesperatehousewife7138 oh please her father did more than enough it was her father that used her and her brother as tokens to barter for his come up Allison was jealous of Rhaenyra. that viserys loved her so much and loved her mother so much no matter what Auto Hightower didn't love his kids he loved what his kids could be used for especially Allison and to be honest with you I truly feel like he might have been molesting her beforehand hence why he was so quick to marry her to the the king if Allicent was really her friend she wouldn't have went along with the bullshit. if She was her friend she would've accept the engagement to Luc for Haelena where she would've been happiest and loved but no Allicent the Hypocrite she is decided to marry her kids together instead despite her talking shit about it 16 years earlier let's just say.
@taylorgazella6597
@taylorgazella6597 Жыл бұрын
100% true Daemon left empty handed Meanwhile Sir Cole touched everything but her hand
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
He actually did touch her hand lol. She just didn't interlace her fingers with his, like he did hers. Anyway, this is also to protect Criston. Had she told her the truth, Alicent no doubt would then try to save her own father by telling him the truth too. Because again she would definitely judge Rhaenyra for having sex out of wedlock and side with her father. Then Otto would inform Viserys about it and that would no doubt lead to Criston having his head on the chopping block.
@Zekor4
@Zekor4 9 ай бұрын
How is "I didn't do anything" and "Daemon never touched me" 100% true?
@Cbutton
@Cbutton Жыл бұрын
“I sware this to you on the memory of my mother” and that’s when she fucked up
@Thebeezzkneezz.
@Thebeezzkneezz. 4 ай бұрын
Yup. You dont wish on your dead mother when your friend lost her mother younger than you did
@janis4292
@janis4292 Жыл бұрын
Why do I always get a feeling that Alicent has a crush on Daemon and jealous of Rhaenyra for being with Daemon...
@giannaberetta878
@giannaberetta878 Жыл бұрын
In the books Daemon took Alicient's virtue, so yeah...she was kinda jealous
@KatherineJ1346
@KatherineJ1346 Жыл бұрын
She also had a thing for Ser Cristin Cole and when she finds out that they slept together THAT is when she goes full Alicunt
@oscaralonso4699
@oscaralonso4699 Жыл бұрын
In the show Alicent is jealous of rhaeneras freedom rather than of her relationahip with deamon. Alicent is stuck in an arranged marriage to a fat sickly old man while her childhood bestie is living it up in brothels sleeping with whomever she wants. Alicent gave up her freedom for her family while rhaenera whom is supposed to be the future queen of the iron throne lives freely neglecting all her royal respinsabilities which are arguably the biggest in the land. This is why Alicent uses her virtue as a shield because its the only way she can live knowing she became a prisoner to her fathers expectations. We later found out how unvurtuous she can truly be when she covers up the numeros rape allegations against aegon. She pretends that its about right and wrong when its actually about her wanting to be free from her hell.
@brandcamacho2899
@brandcamacho2899 Жыл бұрын
She seems more into rae than into daemon in the series xd
@kiloperson5680
@kiloperson5680 Жыл бұрын
​@@giannaberetta878 that's only a rumor....a false one
@yahoo12345jojo
@yahoo12345jojo Жыл бұрын
Milly Alcock is 22, but they did a wonderful job of making her look young. She looks like a young girl dressed up in fancy clothes.
@katlemarie
@katlemarie 4 ай бұрын
I think some women have a young look …when I had my som I was in my 20s and people used to say I looked like a teenage mom..they gave me nasty looks at times 😢
@KTCC13
@KTCC13 Жыл бұрын
They might have not done the deed but Daemon put the green light for her to ultimately wanna marry him later on is what I think.
@zachv465
@zachv465 Жыл бұрын
“To question my virtue, is to question the Kingdom and by extension, the King himself.” -Professor Rhaenyra Umbridge
@KhaliqahAzima
@KhaliqahAzima 2 ай бұрын
You should not tell lies Rhaenyra.
@aureliavanderbolt2006
@aureliavanderbolt2006 Жыл бұрын
My thing is, this is where (as the series progressed) this is where she stemmed her anger from. She initially thought Rhaenyra "slept" with Daemon. Meaning her virtue was TAKEN/GIVEN to Daemon. Main point, it was Daemon she thought. Which Rhaenyra actually told the truth about.. BUT then she found out that it was taken/given to the knight NOT Daemon. So in actuality, it was true she didn't sleep with Daemon but the knight. So why was she so adamant in raging war towards Rhaenyra? Why? Was it because Rhaenyra lost her "virtue" to a younger and handsome man instead of an old man like she did? Was it because she lost her "friend"? WHAT? Because last I checked, Rhaenyra was the one that lost and was BETRAYED BY HER OWN FRIEND to her being her STEP MOTHER.. Rhaenyra was nothing but truthful and loyal to her as her friend only to find out last minute that her "friend" was going to marry her father.. Or maybe I saw it wrong. But as of now, that's how I think about it, or maybe that's what the producers were trying to portray. Anyhoots.. Toodloo..lol
@shreyakar9220
@shreyakar9220 Жыл бұрын
Nope you got it right, she even backstabs her to put her rapist son on the throne
@krishan8735
@krishan8735 Жыл бұрын
The main issue here for Alicent is that here, Rhaenyra claims that she is absolutely innocent and Alicent believes her. Because of this, she then goes on to vouch for Rhaenyra with Viserys. But unbeknownst to Alicent, Rhaenyra used this to get Otto fired. Otto then gaslights her into thinking that Rhaenyra wants Alicents children dead, which puts distance between Alicent and Rhaenyra, as well as making her feel alone and without allies. Then, it's revealed that she did sleep with Cristin (I know, not Daemon, but Rhaenyra implies that she didn't sleep with anyone), meaning that Rhaenyra got Otto by lying. From there, things only get worse, with Viserys constantly giving Rhaenyra favouritism over Alicent, with his willful ignorance of her bastard children, to him not punishing the children after Aemond's eye is taken. She feels like Rhaenyra is taking more and more, whilst escaping punishment, all the while Alicent is doing everything "right", by the times mysogonistic standards (being loyal to her marriage that she doesn't want, and to her king) and yet her life just gets worse and worse. TLDR: a mixture of gaslighting from Otto, favouritism from Viserys, and mysogonistic beliefs of the time convinced Alicent that Rhaenyra was her enemy, trying to undermine her and was trying to reduce her influence.
@Chessheromusic
@Chessheromusic Жыл бұрын
You act like allicent had a choice in all this If allicent was jealous of anything it was rhyneras freedom and ability to choose the life she wanted Something allicent never had The only reason rhynera was chosen as heir was to make sure the crown did not pass to daemon Who had shown brutality to their people leading the kings watch
@day52211
@day52211 Жыл бұрын
alicent is definitely jealous of rhaenrya getting to have an active choice in who she gets with unlike her but even tho rhaenrya was being somewhat truthful imagine the feelings alicent had when she was told by ser criston that he had taken her virtue? imagine someone who used to be ur best friend does what rhaenrya did in this scene and FINALLY thinking that u both possibly could be friends again just to be told by a third party the truth? (this probably doesn’t make sense but i cant think of a proper way to word it)
@missy_naneylove3457
@missy_naneylove3457 Жыл бұрын
Probably because she's a bride child. She was married to an old man and never get to choose who she actually love or even like to be her partner. While Rhaenyra willingly gave her virtue to just whoever available. Not that Criston was there at the wrong place and the wrong time but yeah. Just casually did it and later while still married to Laenor, she have children with Harwin. Which made Alicent more resent towards Rhaenyra because she can choose who's to be her children's father while Alicent have to endure Viserys rotten body.
@Hellzangel115
@Hellzangel115 Жыл бұрын
The way alicent says the " i only want to help you" line sounds to me like "I only want to put you in the same box im stuck in"
@Brit626
@Brit626 9 ай бұрын
Ah yes. Not like the lords on Viserys Small Council aren't comping at the bit to find ANY EXCUSE that would put the crown on Aegon's head rather than Rhaenyra's own.
@iwantabetterworld1759
@iwantabetterworld1759 Жыл бұрын
They both wore killer dresses!!
@matthewhart9610
@matthewhart9610 Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra pulling a trick out of Saera's playbook; gets confronted about her actions and goes from one excuse to another, hoping that any one of them sticks
@glasbolyas9549
@glasbolyas9549 Жыл бұрын
Saera was the worst kid of Jaehaerys, the rest had understandable reasons for going against there father and the Old King made some mistakes but Saera was the most unrepeatable of them all always doing shit and acting like a victim
@TastyGamingQc
@TastyGamingQc Жыл бұрын
No she was making an elaborate excuse. By judging the credibility of what Alicent knows and her actual facts. Rhaenyra played the game well here, even her lie wasn’t entirely a lie, if anything she lied by omission.
@Atiq_s
@Atiq_s Жыл бұрын
​​@@TastyGamingQc it's good she lied. None had a right to spy on her. And Saint Alicent who gives her rapist son a pass for his crimes, is the last we should care about. And she herself is immoral one who has creeps jerking off looking at her feet. No one spying on her though. Alicent would be so heart struck if she found she's a bastard hherself(suppose) Coz no one spied on her mother if she really conceived the child with Otto. Basically lots of sins are never known coz no one learns them. Rhaenyra should have had her own chance to learn and live without getting spied on her first lapse.
@zerof8772
@zerof8772 Жыл бұрын
It wasnt an excuse if it was the truth
@jessp8238
@jessp8238 Жыл бұрын
@@glasbolyas9549 Seara was CLEARLY being sexually abused by The Old King. Children that are being abused act that way, not healthy loved kids!
@Kazi910
@Kazi910 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it gross that she thinks sex out of wedlock is more gross than incest
@dannyeller3018
@dannyeller3018 6 ай бұрын
Rewatching this scene a couple of times really goes to show that neither of these two were completely in the right or wrong. Rhaenyra here is using her status to hopefully shield her from having to confront these treacherous “slanders”, and even swearing on her mother that her virtue is still intact. Alicent likely didn’t know at the time she would do this, but she really had the nerve to judge Targaryens when she would do the exact same thing: betrothing her daughter to her son
@maxrom7
@maxrom7 9 ай бұрын
"I do not question your virtue..I am denying it's existence.."
@cleopatra829
@cleopatra829 Жыл бұрын
Fucking "wise whimsical tree" back there behind Rhaenyra 🥴 I can't.
@anaarrosio
@anaarrosio Жыл бұрын
Alicent accused Rhaenyra of being with Daemon , she sounded jealous
@puspita282
@puspita282 Жыл бұрын
I felt a little bad for Alicient in this scene. She was stuck in an arranged marriage while her friend has all the freedom to do whatever she wants but later on when Alicient covers her son's deeds, I felt she just became a hypocrite of sorts.
@emilypumpkin1073
@emilypumpkin1073 Жыл бұрын
It was hypocritical since she wasn’t going to expose Rhaenyra for this, she just wanted to know if it was true in order to help her. Similar with Aegon except she knew it was true but since he’s still her son, she chose to help him as well because it was either that or endanger him
@Mcherri
@Mcherri Жыл бұрын
@@emilypumpkin1073 it wouldn’t have mattered because she would’ve told her father down the line about this there is no trust in alicent.
@emilypumpkin1073
@emilypumpkin1073 Жыл бұрын
@@Mcherri And yet she defended Rhaenyra when she could’ve easily stayed out of it and she kept her mouth shut when she found out Rhaenyra fucked Criston
@Mcherri
@Mcherri Жыл бұрын
@@emilypumpkin1073 I doubt it now she would’ve opened her mouth to her father now that aegon is king we won’t know until next season at least. She should’ve just minded her own business instead of listening to her father which got him kicked off the council.
@emilypumpkin1073
@emilypumpkin1073 Жыл бұрын
@@Mcherri She didn’t listen to her father, that’s why he got kicked off of the council. She went against him and defended Rhaenyra. Anything she says now (in the next seasons) doesn’t matter, she could make up a bunch of things or tell the truth, either way they’d have the same impact
@bluewolf2203
@bluewolf2203 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it funny how to question Rhanerya’s virtue is treason but trying to attack her and her son with a dagger and cutting her isn’t
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
Lol yeah. I don't understand how some fans are blind to the fact that Alicent too gets away with some shit as Viserys's wife. And paint Viserys as always taking Rhaenyra's side. When he had also favored others over Rhaenyra on many occasions.
@Imanina-kh1ju
@Imanina-kh1ju Жыл бұрын
Well if Rhaenyra can get away with treason, why can't Alicent. Besides, her son literally got mauled. Every mother wld be enraged by that.
@lol-oe1md
@lol-oe1md Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra's sons attacked Alicient's sons first, she simply wanted and eye for an eye. Rhaenyra trying to pass of bastard children as her heir is treason as well
@BleedingGrafitti
@BleedingGrafitti 9 ай бұрын
@@lol-oe1md Yet Aemond lost his eye when he tried smashing Jace's skull, who was already on the ground and not fighting back. Yeah he grabbed the rock to defend himself, but he didn't cease when all the other kids had already backed down. He walked *straight* toward Jace to finish the deed (I can link clips and time stamps for anyone who wants to challenge me on this) and a 4 year old Luce acted out of pure panic and instinct to protect his brother. Aemond was ready to commit kinslaying with or without a dragon that night. He's rotten to the core and Alicent is to blame.
@Groovybiha
@Groovybiha 6 ай бұрын
Having 3 bastards as the crown heir is an act of high treason as well…means exile and death…alicent, while I don’t agree with her actions, was rightfully pissed since viserys cared more about the truth being out than his son being maimed and disfigured….
@catlady443
@catlady443 Жыл бұрын
No she didn't want to help her. she wanted to report it back to the king. she was and had always been Jealous if Rhaenyra
@SimplymeSVEN18
@SimplymeSVEN18 Жыл бұрын
I doubt it, not at this stage anyway even though not reporting that would be considered treason. We see Alicent vouch for Rhaenyra throughout the rest of the episode so her own actions contradict what you say. Also, jealous of what exactly? Rhaenyra's life was one giant tragedy that she herself created.
@jezeannwilliams1145
@jezeannwilliams1145 6 ай бұрын
But the King already knows what his daughter is capable of. He and Daemon were well acquainted with the street of Silk by Rhae's age. His only regret is not having her married off before her hormones went into overdrive
@shreyakar9220
@shreyakar9220 Жыл бұрын
She came at her condescendingly, if she wasn't so close minded rhaenyra would have told her the truth of what happened
@tallie19
@tallie19 Жыл бұрын
she doesn't trust Alicent and doesn't know, what would she do if she knew the truth about Cole. High possibility that Alicent would sell her to daddy Otto as she always does
@shreyakar9220
@shreyakar9220 Жыл бұрын
@@tallie19 thats my point, amd also she knows vole's head will be off
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
Well yeah. The thing is Alicent WOULD judge her had Rhaenyra told her that she willing had sex with Criston. And would definitely side with her father by telling him the truth.
@shreyakar9220
@shreyakar9220 Жыл бұрын
@@happilyevernever4289 exactly my point, she chooses people to be hypocrite with
@Groovybiha
@Groovybiha 6 ай бұрын
No she came at her firmly as a step mother and as the queen. Its not about being “close-minded” either. Losing her virtue outside of marriage in this time period (truth in fiction) is an act of high treason…it could cost her her chances at a suitable marriage candidate, her reputation, her throne, everything. Rhaenyra was being careless and lacks the foresight to see how her actions will effect her long term, thats one of her major flaws but most of the team blacks are media illiterate and have main character bias so they don’t see any fault in what rhaenyra does, only in others who try to push her to do the smart thing.
@priyamvadabarthwal4794
@priyamvadabarthwal4794 Жыл бұрын
Alicent im jealous ....while i bed an old man you are enjoying your ....youth
@firestream93
@firestream93 7 ай бұрын
"Well... Technicaly I didn't do anything with my uncle. But... I did get a 'sword' run through me later that night."
@alexass8987
@alexass8987 Жыл бұрын
And even here, many have forgotten that Alicent was on the side of Rhaenyra to the last...
@erfanshekaroo
@erfanshekaroo Жыл бұрын
How ever corlys, viserys and Tywin used their children without any consideration, viserys relied on the prophesy of prince that was promised (song of ice and fire) and I’m 100% sure in his last talk before he died with Alicent, when he said aegon’s name as the promised prince he meant Rhaenyra’s and daemon’s so Aegon (who becomes king), and what he meant to tell her meant he trusted her with the truth and he knew that Alice do what is right and act by kindness and truthfully to serve the realm and keep it together, unlike her father (who only act to his profit and thinks he’s smart and powerful unlike the truth he never knew that winter is coming), and help Rhaenyra and make sure Aegon sits on the ironthrown, make amends with Rhaenyra and guide her to unify and to go over petty politics and acknowledge that there is a deadly enemy in the north which your father saw in his last dream,a more clear vision with dangerous enemy, prophecy of song of ice and fire.but she misunderstood because of he wasn’t clear. (I’m sure he didn’t trust to tell her for some years, because after he fired otto for misguiding and incomplete report he also realised his marriage was another political gain for Otto he became suspicious of alicent’s love. plus the fact they haven’t seen baby Aegon before and they met him for the first time in kings final days, but no one paid no mind because everyone’s belief were her mother’s a whore and daemon was passionately hated because he never showed his amazing side and I believe he did it on purpose and in his mind by acting that way he was trying to even the disrespect and accusations he received because he had amazing goals and sitting on the ironthrone wasn’t his first dream, at list until he achieved his dreams and goals which were always power and knowledge of how to find great dragons without riders and credibility and power. He never wanted to be king, that was a joke for him, being heir to ironthrone was his safety low point for him. He wanted to concur more worlds to show he is as powerful as Aegon the conqueror and show off his power to his brother because he loved him and he felt that he was in a competition with Viserys as a brother, and demise thepeople who disrespected him and tried to ruin his reputation many times and trust and triggered him to act as an unjust and barbaric person so the king will also despise him and reject him and only because his claim was strong and he could be their doom.because he was extremely experienced in combat and battle and believed in the fact that men and women were more equals in his mind (at list the important one’s).when he got dethroned of iron throne, he got angry and felt betrayed and tried to make everyone miserable, as he felt the same and also triggered his enemies to make them loose control and show their true faces to his brother to see there are leaches and useless people at his court so he could get a chance to expose them, mostly Otto Hightower who gave the word of daemon’s insult and behaviour to Viserys who lost his only hope, his son,his newborn child and butchered his wife for his final hope in his mind. I bet otto was dreaming and praying for this moment so he could have more power and a bond to royal family, was madly happy because then it was the greatest accident that could happen to him because his plans could begin immediately without anyone noticing.so he trained his daughter and used her and made her a queen which she never wanted and I bet by his dad’s command she had babies to ensure her place immediately. ( children, specially the ones from important lines and royalties were like investment, assets to fix problems), daemon was celebrating for officially becoming first to the line, allegedly but also as he said people cope with tragedy and loss in different ways but it feels that he did it with selfish intentions when his brother lost his love and a hope of his line of succession and his wife in one day which he was to blame for if he wasn’t persistent of having a boy at cost of risking your wife’s health when she lost many children. Corlys gambled his dynasty and family and everything to set his wife on the throne. Tywin unlike corlys did everything to gain power and money in the name of his house and thought his children the same. Even in their time they are not all good and they embrace hunger for power and ironethrone.
@DPedro3
@DPedro3 Жыл бұрын
Everyone commeting on here seems to forget that Alicent believed Rhaenyra and defended her, to the point that got her own father fired from the council, and later found out that Rhaenyra lied to her. I don't like the greens but she had every right to be mad at that point
@amaranta2632
@amaranta2632 Жыл бұрын
yes, but she lied to Rhae too, or well, she hid that her father had plans for her to marry the king. And Rhae forgive her later...why Alicent couldn't do the same thing?
@SimplymeSVEN18
@SimplymeSVEN18 Жыл бұрын
@@amaranta2632 Viserys commanded Alicent not to speak of that to anyone, especially Rhaenyra.
@BBeauy2020
@BBeauy2020 Жыл бұрын
Well, Rhae didn’t lie! She didn’t have sex with Daemon. Alicent is the real backstabber! Idc what the King’s command was. You smiling in my face while mind fucking my father. At least give me a heads up.
@Sienisota
@Sienisota Жыл бұрын
​@@SimplymeSVEN18He commaded it later, after she had been seeing him for a while. She could've told to the King's daughter that the Hand has designs to put his daughter into the King's graces. But instead she silently obeyed without telling the princess anything. Her treason started when she quietly went along to manipulate herself into Kings goodwill when he and princess were both devastated by grief. That the King later on ordered her silence, doesn't excuse her. Her father wanted to manipulate her King by using her, and instead of telling either the king or the princess, she went along with it. She was a friend of the princess, and could've gotten away from doing it by telling her friend. She didn't, thus being the first to betray their friendship. She wanted to become a queen, so she betrayed the trust of the princess (and betrayed her king, by going after him directly after he had suffered a horrible loss).
@SimplymeSVEN18
@SimplymeSVEN18 Жыл бұрын
@@Sienisota That's not treason dear. The king was bound to remarry through pressure of the noblity and proposals would be coming in as soon as Emma was turned to ash. The fact Otto attempted to make his daughter queen makes him ambitious, but not treasonous. Alicent quietly went along because she's a girl living in a patriarchal society and as such has to do as told by her betters without complaint. You can clearly tell she didn't want to be going to Viserys, who would, he's a disgusting old leper. Otto also knows she doesn't want to as he remarks on her selfmutilation at one point iirc. And no she wouldn't have been ableto getaway from it even if she told someone. Just look at little Laena; her father was blatantly trying to make her queen, making the kid parrot his own words to Viserys and had she been older he would've married her regardless.
@rachelparradelong
@rachelparradelong Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that on the book Alicent and Daemon had a thing before she married the king , this would make sense why she believed it happened because it happened to her
@yellowhouse4911
@yellowhouse4911 Жыл бұрын
It was a rumour. If it had happened, they would have showed it in the show
@day52211
@day52211 Жыл бұрын
the book are supposed to be taken with a grain of salt most of the things in the book are rumours
@Kaboomboo
@Kaboomboo Жыл бұрын
That was Mushroom's account. His stories have a propensity to sensationalize many aspects and connect it back to sex and debauchery. It should be taken with a grain of salt indeed.
@thanosalaarson8290
@thanosalaarson8290 Жыл бұрын
People need to put their feelings aside. Remember that Ned Stark was considered Jon Snow’s father, regardless of what theory you believe. And him having a bastard is a stain on his honor. He was in love with Ashara Dayne beforehand but was forced to marry Catelyn to save Robert Baratheon from Jon Connington and his army. And in that deal Lysa Arryn, who was not a maiden was bargained off to Jon Arryn because she was soiled by little finger. Same thing when Robb Stark wedded Jeyne Westerling. He took her maidenhood and married her because she would have been shamed and dishonored. No Lord or Lady of Westeros would’ve accepted Rhaenyra for their Heirs because she’s not virtuous because of the rumors. It’s an insult to honor and customs. Even Harry Harding aka Harry the heir is judge for sleeping around and having children out of wedlock. Rumors of her not being a maiden wouldve turned the houses against her and bereft her of allies and suitable matches. Just like Lollys Stokeworth as well, her maidenhood was taken forcefully unfortunately during the riot of king’s landing which was why Bron was eligible to marry her because a Knight was the best she could’ve gotten
@CurioNox8
@CurioNox8 7 ай бұрын
Alicent was just jealous how free Rhaenera was, when she herself never was
@JustNo420
@JustNo420 Жыл бұрын
"I want to Help you" means "I want to know If There could be children to Take Care of."
@katlight5737
@katlight5737 11 ай бұрын
True
@RewindThatwithMsKay
@RewindThatwithMsKay 11 ай бұрын
I never understood why Alicent was so bothered by this "rumor" until I had to rationalize that Alicent was just jealous that Rhaenyra wasn't afraid of breaking the rules and having a little fun.
@Brit626
@Brit626 9 ай бұрын
ETA: But no one is ready to have this conversation. No, Alicent wasn't jealous. Additionally, Rhaenyra's "breaking the rules and having a little fun" could cost her the title of Princess of Dragonstone. Alicent was worried that the rumors she'd heard were true, and unfortunately, they were. Daemon didn't fuck her, no no. But her virtue was no longer intact, she was no longer chaste, because she'd fucked Cole that same night. If any one of her detractors got their hands on this evidence, irrefutable proof, then Rhaenyra would be disinherited and Cole likely would have been gelded.
@Groovybiha
@Groovybiha 6 ай бұрын
You don’t understand because you aren’t paying enough attention: Its not about jealousy: Rhaenyra losing her virtue before marriage is an act of high treason. Sure she could get away with it (shes favored by her father) but it would still effect her reputation, her standing with the noble houses that support her, her potential marriage candidates and most importantly the throne itself. You rationalize it as just jealousy because you have main character bias, otherwise you’d see clear as day that rhaenyra lying to and gaslighting alicent along with what her father told her fueled her paranoia and suspicions (plus she had valid reason to be angry), it showed rhae thinks nothing of lying to her when it’s convenient. This also shows how arrogant, careless and short sighted Rhaenyra is about everything around her due to being spoiled and favored by her father and having to suffer no real consequences.
@Groovybiha
@Groovybiha 6 ай бұрын
@@Brit626Thank you, its crazy how people dramatically miss the point here.
@Brit626
@Brit626 6 ай бұрын
@@Groovybiha You're welcome! Really, I think that people watch this show through a modern lense not realizing the political implications and nuances her actions have. Personally, Rhaenyra knows nothing of duty and nothing of sacrifice. This discribes her perfectly: You know nothing of anger You know nothing of pain You know not how the path That you walk on was paved Now you bask in your pity From the wrath of shame For too long you have lived With your facade unscathed.
@danika9411
@danika9411 5 ай бұрын
In the book there is Saera Targaryen. She slept around ( she did a lot more screwed up stuff ) and was disinherited and send to the silent sisters as punishment. Silent sisters are a group of women belonging to the faith of the 7. They swear a vow of silence and prepare the bodies of the dead for funeral. You can sometimes see them in the background in the series. Viserys even says if he was Jahaerys she would be disinherited now. If this rumour spreads and if Viserys would have been stricter, then Rhaenyra could have faced heavy consequences. Alicent is the Queen and can actually help and talk to the King and try to keep her safe. Which is exactly what she did. If she only wanted she could have screwed Rhaenyra over. But she didn't. She kept the secret that Rhaenyra lost her virginity and slept with, out if her point of view, multiple men all these years. ( She doesn't know Daemon and Rhaenyra didn't finish what they started ) I think that is also something people overlook. Alicent kept the secret and didn't use it against her. The king never knew and we never see her talking about it.
@ladyraven2256
@ladyraven2256 Жыл бұрын
she was telling the truth about Uncle Daemon.
@Brit626
@Brit626 9 ай бұрын
She told the truth about Daemon, sure. But she lied about her virtue.
@risjones
@risjones Ай бұрын
She should have said that she and Daemon never did anything that would sully her 'virtue'...atleast that wouldn't have been a bold faced lie on her mother's grave.
@project_ronin4789
@project_ronin4789 Жыл бұрын
Everyone misconstrues alicent's outrage they think it's because she banged her uncle but it's more that she just goes and does what she wants with who she wants while she had to be wed to a old man
@ericagilmore6086
@ericagilmore6086 Жыл бұрын
my whole thing about this scene is she goes on to say Targaryns are weird in their ways, talking about how they have been incest in the past. she straight downs them for that and then marries her children, brother and sister together so they could rule.
@lol-oe1md
@lol-oe1md Жыл бұрын
When will people understand that Alicent didn't mean the incest when she judged Rhaenyra for being with Daemon. It's the facts that she is a princess of the seven kingdoms and sleeping around in a pleasure house
@Aiffam1
@Aiffam1 Жыл бұрын
Viserys wanted his kids married in the books, not Alicent.
@Infernal460
@Infernal460 Жыл бұрын
*To question my virtue is an act of treason.* Alicent - I'm not questioning your virtue, I'm denying it's existence.
@felicity_rose3466
@felicity_rose3466 Жыл бұрын
But yet everyone says Alicent is the bad person. Whilst Rhaenyra lied off the tip of her tongue through a whole speech whilst swearing on her mother… Alicent tried to help her and she did, she got her father sent away because she reaffirmed the Rhaenyra and said she was still a maiden. She later found out Rhaenyra lied about all of it. Daemon did touch her, and Cole took her virginity.
@pedrofernandes2466
@pedrofernandes2466 Жыл бұрын
THIS
@nikhilsrivastava3393
@nikhilsrivastava3393 Жыл бұрын
And later Alicent sold feet pics too. So by your own standard, shes a bad person too.
@felicity_rose3466
@felicity_rose3466 Жыл бұрын
@@nikhilsrivastava3393 because she takes off her socks she’s a bad person in comparison? Absolutely not. This is a prime example of someone not wanting to accept the facts that Rhaenyra is not a good person and in retaliation they get the most random thing Alicent has done and tries to balance the scale. Her having a spy around the castle doesn’t make her bad, everyone has spies including daemon and Rhaenyra.
@amaranta2632
@amaranta2632 Жыл бұрын
and I remind you that Alicent hid that her father wanted her to marry the king. She was seen secretly with the king without saying anything to her friend. And Rhae forgave her afterwards, even though she had been angry. Alicent's anger is normal, but a bit hypocritical. Neither of them is a bad person right now. Rhae lied because her HONOR was at stake, and in GOT a woman's honor is important, valuable. Alicent lied because of her father. What is not normal is that Alicent started to hate her friend for that.
@felicity_rose3466
@felicity_rose3466 Жыл бұрын
@@amaranta2632 Rhaenyra shouldn’t have ever had to lie to protect her Honour. The difference is: she did sleep with Cole, and was going to sleep with Daemon. Viserys knew it as well, he had Otto sent away knowing Rhaenyra lied. Viserys sent her Moontea that night for her to drink to avoid pregnancy. She lied to Alicent about it, who supported her which also got her dad sent away. Rhaenyra lied about her own actions, Alicent didn’t lie, she just never told Rhaenyra, and she did so because her father asked. So Alicent was ordered, Rhaenyra did it willingly. That’s the difference. Also the fact she swore on her mother. So I guess her mother meant Jack shit to her. Alicent felt then that Rhaenyra’s promises mean nothing to anyone because her mother, who Alicent knew she loved, was sworn on when it was a lie
@sergio_os
@sergio_os Жыл бұрын
And that judging woman is the mother of Aegon II Targaryen 🙃🙄
@Zekor4
@Zekor4 9 ай бұрын
Why is it wrong to judge if she's right and the other person lies to her face?
@sergio_os
@sergio_os 9 ай бұрын
@@Zekor4 didn't say she was wrong to judge, I pointed out that the son she raised herself was far worse.
@pennyp6125
@pennyp6125 Жыл бұрын
Alicent was bedding Daemon why she had so much emotion. She was mad at prospect of Rhynera also sleeping with him. It's a rumor in the books.
@maxi1ification
@maxi1ification Жыл бұрын
To note how big the lie was... she didn't go as far as saying she didn't sleep with Daemon, she went as far as to deny he touched her at all... on her mother's grave... THAT part was an explicit lie, and if her mother's grave isn't enough of a block of honesty to her, then nothing is. And that's without accounting for the spirit of the other lie in that she DID sleep with someone, Ser Criston Cole. Small wonder Alicent felt betrayed and lied to, and small wonder she couldn't trust Rhaenyra afterwards.
@corbans5796
@corbans5796 Жыл бұрын
I'm team black, but people really let Rhanearya get away with anything and blame Alicent for everything.
@TJ-fe7rr
@TJ-fe7rr Жыл бұрын
Because she started this war with telling people Viserys wanted Aegon to be crowned king.
@corbans5796
@corbans5796 Жыл бұрын
@T J you understand she genuinely thought he was talking about their son, right?
@TJ-fe7rr
@TJ-fe7rr Жыл бұрын
@@corbans5796 her father has convinced Alicent that her children will be slaughtered by Rhaenyra when she becomes queen. Alicent thought Viserys was talking about her son, because she wanted to believe it. When people are already paranoid, they'll believe anything.
@corbans5796
@corbans5796 Жыл бұрын
@@TJ-fe7rr none of that contradicts anything I said
@SimplymeSVEN18
@SimplymeSVEN18 11 ай бұрын
@@TJ-fe7rr It's not like Otto was wrong. Rhaenyra would have her siblings killed eventually. She's already shown to have no issue with ordering/planning a murder and has already casually called for Aemond to be tortured right after the kid lost his eye. During her final conversation with Viserys he mentioned the prince that was promised and Aegon. Why wouldn't Alicent assume he was talking about their son?
@kimberlyplatt2382
@kimberlyplatt2382 6 ай бұрын
Love how Rhaenyra threw her Uncle under the bus. He forced me to go. I wanted to go home. He forced me to stay. LOL!
@nowitsCynder
@nowitsCynder Жыл бұрын
little did she know she picked her own sword when she took Ser Criston Cole
@missy_naneylove3457
@missy_naneylove3457 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why Alicent acted so angry like that until someone pointed out that originally Alicent wad supposed to marry Daemon. But the Aema died and she ended up with Viserys and boom all hell broke lose. Am I right or am I wrong?
@ChaoticPeace357
@ChaoticPeace357 Жыл бұрын
i think that’s just one theory,that some believe Alicent had already been with Daemon,i think they believe this because he asked for her favor at the joust and because her jealousy in this scene . From what everyone says the show strayed somewhat from the books and i have not read them but wonder what they say -
@AnonymousanonymousA
@AnonymousanonymousA Жыл бұрын
why did she care so much?
@leoo7627
@leoo7627 Жыл бұрын
She really said "om I ain't lying"
@Aurora-bg8pz
@Aurora-bg8pz Жыл бұрын
People calling her evil for lying are ignoring the fact that if she had been honest Alicent 100% would've still been mad and ruined her reputation which would lead to many lethal consequences back then, no one would've supported her claim going forward, why would she be honest? And to act like she's wrong for being intimate before marriage is just sexist and wrong, home girl just wanted to be happy.
@silverscales6634
@silverscales6634 Жыл бұрын
Yes, happy in a brothel when she was 14 and unsupervised. No problem with that at all
@Aiffam1
@Aiffam1 Жыл бұрын
You're making assumptions. Alicent deeply cared about Rhaenyra, and wanted the best for her. Alicent also knew that rumours of premartial sex would severly damage Rhaenyra's claim, her authority and the potential men she might marry. Furthermore, she wanted something better for Rhaenyra than ending up with an man twice her age, like Alicent did. Daemon killed his previous wife, he is dangerous. When Rhaenyra and Daemon do get together, he is physically abusive and isolates her from her father at dragonstone, like he isolated Laena from her family on Essos.
@iolinaleilanirimi9896
@iolinaleilanirimi9896 Жыл бұрын
Whether or not Daemon “touched” her isn’t the entirety of the issue. The fact she was outside of the castle and in a brothel is it’s own scandal. She’s a princess, a lady of the court, the heir to the throne…to be caught in a brothel with your twice exiled murderous uncle just invites all kinds of rumors. And while she may not have went “all the way” with Daemon, the situation was still highly inappropriate and unbecoming of her status. And let’s all not pretend like she wasn’t trying to cover up the fact she not only made out with her uncle, but also slept with her sworn sword. To admit to it would have cost her everything. So she had to lie. And she’s continued to lie in order to maintain her lifestyle of course. And that is truly her biggest flaw and quite literally her downfall.
@katiebugg7018
@katiebugg7018 6 ай бұрын
“ I swear on the memory of my mother” mom in heaven like 🤨
@amesappreciated5823
@amesappreciated5823 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, if I were on this time, I would hope to God that my mom would approve of everything and anything I do to protect myself. From everyone.
@batmank234
@batmank234 Жыл бұрын
People reducing this to Alicent just being jealous forget that Rhaenyra just came back from interrupting a trip where she could freely choose her consort, a huge privilege in those times, specially for a woman, only for this scandal to ensue the very next day. Dunno you, but I'd also feel just a tad bit punked.
@megteg
@megteg Жыл бұрын
Yes I don’t understand why people take the princesses side… she is so spoiled dude- and she NEVER put the kingdom before her own desires. Alicent is 100% right to be disappointed and frustrated
@3MB4R
@3MB4R Жыл бұрын
@@megteg she told Cole no to running away because her duty to the throne and realm was more important. At least be fair.
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
​@@3MB4R And then tried to convince Daemon to run away with her. Or ar least get married after a betrothal to Laenor. For most of the series she is extremely short-sighted and throws future stability out the window.
@Doomzdeh
@Doomzdeh Жыл бұрын
@@megteg Let’s not mention how, when Viserys confronts her, all she does is whine about how she is being treated differently because she is a woman. It’s as if she expects him to cover for her all the time and just fix her problems, without any real effort on her end. By breaking all rules and indulging her behavior when she was young, Viserys indirectly created an heiress who very much isn’t deserving of the throne. And he neglected his other children so much that they weren’t either.
@huaduo2000
@huaduo2000 6 ай бұрын
@@Doomzdehagreed. She’s completely unworthy
@The84336
@The84336 Жыл бұрын
If there was ever a sign that Rhaenyra is not fit for the throne, the fact that her immediate response to Alicent questioning her is to accuse her of treason is definitely it. Treason is a capital offense, she’s basically threatening Alicent with death for asking the wrong thing and showing absolutely no remorse for it.
@TJ-fe7rr
@TJ-fe7rr Жыл бұрын
Kinda like how Larys Strong killed his own family and Alicent never punished him for it, that treason enough for ya?
@vaekehuaka8416
@vaekehuaka8416 Жыл бұрын
Alicent is jealous and envious about the fact that Rhaenyra is free minded, bold and can experiment a lot of things like sex, alcohol, pleasure,etc. She resents her for her willfulness when she can’t even do this because of her education. I’m not gonna say she’s weak but more like obedient and submissive.
@alb3598
@alb3598 10 ай бұрын
You must be living in a completely different reality if you think Alicent's jealous...
@elysecatmull3404
@elysecatmull3404 Жыл бұрын
Technically, she didn’t lie…
@MorallyDubiousFrog
@MorallyDubiousFrog Жыл бұрын
“I was just a spectator. Daemon never touched me.” Daemon was literally kissing and fingering her in the middle of a whorehouse.
@gavomorg762
@gavomorg762 10 ай бұрын
"SULLIED" or as Jamie Lannister Once said shes been "BISMIRCHED" 🤣🤣"
@RS-bn1ty
@RS-bn1ty Жыл бұрын
I like how Alicent is just a dang hypocrite, let’s not talk about you and your dad being snakes slipping into the crown so they could try to get the throne lol
@skedda2861
@skedda2861 Жыл бұрын
YESSS, alicent is supposed to be her best friend and she just comes sticking her nose into somethings thats not her business. And then also comes at rhaenyra completely judging and insults her family heritage 'you targaryens do have queer customs'
@megteg
@megteg Жыл бұрын
What? They never did anything other than try to persuade the king to make the decisions they believed were best for the crown?
@skedda2861
@skedda2861 Жыл бұрын
@@megteg yeah so let's usurp the throne and replace rhaenyra with a psychopath alcoholic rapist who you never did anything in 20 years to get ready to take the throne 🤣 that seems in the best interest of the realm lol
@yamatonadeshiko567
@yamatonadeshiko567 Жыл бұрын
That's not really wrong though, at least by Westeros standards. Many lords would make their little girls marry Viserys that time if they had a chance. Even the Velaryons tried to do it. Majority of the noble houses wants to see someone with their blood on the throne.
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
That was AFTER she realized how much of a snake Rhaenyra was tho, tbf
@carillydiaz9656
@carillydiaz9656 Жыл бұрын
Alicent I´m afraid is the Cercei of this, she will do sh*t until the final season and then live a good live getting away like she is a saint.
@anikethchakraborty3238
@anikethchakraborty3238 7 ай бұрын
well Alicent is a saint
@kaleahcollins4567
@kaleahcollins4567 Жыл бұрын
technically her virtue was attacked he didn't do the front he did the back so technically she didn't lie but her first experience of any means was with Damon but he went in through the back door not the front door that's what made it even worse because he treated her like a common w****
@oxnerd
@oxnerd 6 ай бұрын
Alicent’s annoying anger would’ve made a little more sense if they adapted her being in love with Daemon
@lunathemoon64
@lunathemoon64 Жыл бұрын
Interesting how Rhaenyra walks around Alicent and faces away from the godswood tree before swearing a lie upon her mother’s grave.
@chelseaoliver5404
@chelseaoliver5404 Жыл бұрын
She is technically not lying though her and Daemon didn't go all the way then it was Criston later
@marcelagomesdealencar1842
@marcelagomesdealencar1842 Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra is right not to trust her, she broke Rhaenyra's trust, met with her father for 6 months and never told Rhaenyra and now wants the "Truth"
@Piotr12396
@Piotr12396 Жыл бұрын
Yep she is a smart girl
@karabomalejwe1302
@karabomalejwe1302 Жыл бұрын
Alicent wanted Rhaenyra all for herself ,you can't convince me otherwise
@magdalinejuma6777
@magdalinejuma6777 Жыл бұрын
I feel like people judge Alicent to harshly she didn't choose to marry the king her father pushed her into marrying him and in this scene rhenyera lie caused her father his job and honestly if my friend contributed to my dad getting fired i would be furious with them
@megteg
@megteg Жыл бұрын
Dude Raenerya drives me nuts. She’s so hypocritical and straight up lies constantly. She was never fit to be queen. Everything she does is for her own gain and not the kingdoms.
@yamatonadeshiko567
@yamatonadeshiko567 Жыл бұрын
Agree...
@emilypumpkin1073
@emilypumpkin1073 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. This is why I’m team green. Although Rhaenyra was technically the rightful heir to the throne, I didn’t want to see her on it. Aegon isn’t great either but I’m hoping Otto and Alicent are gonna control his actions
@Mcherri
@Mcherri Жыл бұрын
Sorry but I cannot stand alicent u say rhaeynera is hypocritical when alicent is the biggest of all hypocrites especially when she was screwing her so called friends father behind her back regardless of duty and honour. Then comes and judges rhaeynera for all of it. Alicent would’ve ran to her daddy and told him screwing rhaeynera or eventually down the line she would’ve told him. Then protecting 2 of the most horrible people that could exist while being ok with murder. Now rhaenerya is far from innocent but she is entitled to let loose here and there as she is spoiled so what she is royalty it’s expected something alicent can and never will understand. Every Targaryen is spoiled and entitled to some degree but they prove themselves.
@emilypumpkin1073
@emilypumpkin1073 Жыл бұрын
@@Mcherri I never said Rhaenyra was hypocritical, don’t go making stuff up. Alicent didn’t sleep with Viserys until their wedding night. Alicent was never okay with murder, she was upset when she found out that Larys murdered people but knew that nothing could be done unless she wanted to incriminate herself. You’re right about one thing though, Alicent does not understand what it is to be “spoiled” or be allowed to “let loose”. Instead, she understands duty and sacrifice, Rhaenyra does not
@Mcherri
@Mcherri Жыл бұрын
@@emilypumpkin1073 Alicent didn’t do shit she let larys do what he wanted and he killed his entire family a kinslayer the worst of the worst and still let’s him walk around. As queen she had a duty to report him or have his head for this and treason she didn’t so where is her honour and duty there.
@RebelPrincess-ol3dl
@RebelPrincess-ol3dl 8 ай бұрын
Alicent needs to remember her place and breeding. I don't know where the f**k she gets off being all high and mighty.
@eabz1998
@eabz1998 6 ай бұрын
Anyone else noticing the face on the tree behind rhaenyra or just me 😂
@TheKingTywinLannister
@TheKingTywinLannister Жыл бұрын
I wish Daemon would have done it right then and there. Not just pulling out immediately
@RockyAexiiy
@RockyAexiiy 6 ай бұрын
I know her mama laughed from the heaven when Rhaenyra swore on her memory 😭
@ferretfather2000
@ferretfather2000 Жыл бұрын
I love how they started the series as BFFs😅
@flursanderdander8484
@flursanderdander8484 Жыл бұрын
I am not questionin your virtue princess, Im denying its existence (Alicent in her head probably)
@margaritan9951
@margaritan9951 Жыл бұрын
Damn had it out for her from the beginning
@LadyCheshire95
@LadyCheshire95 Жыл бұрын
Uno reverse card. Is this not the girl who seduced the king after his wife died. 🤔 Like I get allicent was practically forced, still doesn't mean she gets to look down on everyone else
@TaeSunWoo
@TaeSunWoo Жыл бұрын
They wanted each other so bad
@miaveranika30
@miaveranika30 Жыл бұрын
It's like Daemon is Alicent's fiance or something
@MHMJ143
@MHMJ143 Жыл бұрын
The "lie" that started it all.
@Emy-fv5ny
@Emy-fv5ny Жыл бұрын
Well, she was saying the truth 😏
@Zekor4
@Zekor4 9 ай бұрын
"I didn't do anything" " Daemon never touched me"
@lukesguywalker
@lukesguywalker 6 ай бұрын
I like Rhaenyra but she KNOWS she's dead wrong for swearing on her mama like that. 😂
@mideharry
@mideharry Жыл бұрын
I mean, Allicent probably wished the informer had the decency to at least take a photo on their phone🙃
@lovely_uri
@lovely_uri Жыл бұрын
I will from here on out replacing “On my momma I swear” to “Upon the memory of my mother”
@PrimeSky98
@PrimeSky98 Жыл бұрын
Now that I'm seeing this again. The only thing she didn't lie about, was fucking Daemon
@lightenpath6997
@lightenpath6997 7 ай бұрын
Her momma in the afterlife 💀
@davidalicea6007
@davidalicea6007 Жыл бұрын
Look at that face lols she a great actor
@deisecardoso9589
@deisecardoso9589 Жыл бұрын
I will never understand Alicent! She’s just a frustrated woman 🤦🏾‍♀️
@darknemessis6880
@darknemessis6880 8 ай бұрын
No she is not. Rhaenyra is a degenerate
@anishaahammed4438
@anishaahammed4438 6 ай бұрын
"Daemon didn't touched her"she swear this lie upon the memory of her mother... Wow!
@carlsmith2225
@carlsmith2225 8 ай бұрын
I really dont understand why it matter to her tht rheanyra was just living her life as a friend she should of just bn there for her..
@pseudopuppy160
@pseudopuppy160 Жыл бұрын
As always... a woman is being held accountable for men’s weaknesses, & inability to control their hormones.
@sulfathyusef2082
@sulfathyusef2082 5 ай бұрын
I don't know why everyone is so quick to blame alicent. Rheanyra is to blame too.
@pirate-king09
@pirate-king09 5 ай бұрын
This episode changes everything
@priscillastephanie3312
@priscillastephanie3312 8 ай бұрын
Alicent once again proving all her envy and resentment towards Rhaenyra, who as the crown princess of the throne can do whatever she wants with whoever she wants freely without being punished! While the other is trapped in an unhappy marriage that she did not choose
@Larry09bookreader
@Larry09bookreader Жыл бұрын
What is this from?
@TesticleesMaximus4361
@TesticleesMaximus4361 Жыл бұрын
Have not watched this show but as a potential viewer I do not like the character of Alicent
@rishamayoux5212
@rishamayoux5212 Жыл бұрын
What’s the show?
@TesticleesMaximus4361
@TesticleesMaximus4361 Жыл бұрын
@@rishamayoux5212 house of the dragon I believe
@tpl2401
@tpl2401 4 ай бұрын
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