why

with no sleeves? XD

Idk just nostalgia lol

@@TheSuperboy91 With every card reprinted. Yes.

You can play old formats in casual groups.

Force of scrubland

You can use proxies back then

it does sound like him alot

It's actually me doing the color commentary, and I can actually hear the resemblance a bit to Edward Norton. Nowadays I don't think I sound quite like that, but it's an interesting observation.

your commentary btw is just great. one kinda wonders why randy buehler is in the hall of fame considering all the horrible misplays he does (which I sure wouldn't have been able to see considering how noob I was at that time)

Thank you for the compliments, hard to believe this was 20 years ago! Randy deserves to be in the Hall of Fame for sure. No player should be judged on how they play in a single game (we've all made horrible mistakes), and I don't recall him even making horrible misplays in this match. I will have to rewatch it to be sure of that of course, just wasn't my overall impression.

One commentator I think is Brian hacker the other might be Chris pikula ?

+SpaceStormy This was common at the time, even at PT level. Marked cards all the way, I mean look at the bends on his cards too.

+oR3Io Some people took it a lot further actually. Tomi Hovi and Olle Rade, both hall of famers, were notorious for using the various subtle differences in foreign print runs to their advantage. Sleeves were not mandatory, so both of those guys filled their decks with four-ofs from different editions and languages. It was a brilliant exploit of sorts, completely legal at the time, so neither can really be faulted for taking advantage of it. The early days of the Pro Tour were definitely the Wild West.

wild wild west of magic.sounds crazy...

Interesting!

Tony Walk I thought hacker pikula cause those the only other payers i know of

Yep that is definitely brian weisseman

If I knew it was possible I would have played some pro tours back then.

It's a proxy. Proxies have always been tourney legal

A judge can give a player a proxy to use on certain conditions

Is Brian Weissman one of the commentators?

Judges would make people use proxy if they deemed certain cards too damaged and therefore marked. Player's were required to de-sleeve their decks in the early days of video recorded Magic tournaments.

The land fetched was a Plains that was a proxy for Scrubland. Buehler didn't want to be shuffling with the Scrubland (it wasn't his and was lent to him and was given to him after his win) in deck so a proxy for it was put into the deck and when he fetched for it it was replaced with the actual card. Right after that you can see Suver's hand where there is a Plain's with the word Counterspell written on it as both players were playing with proxies.

Okay thanks that makes a ton of sense now

@@TankP0wnz does it? ;P ;P

Proxies were allowed then just like they are now in non sanctioned vintage events , as it should be!

We didn’t use sleeves then . In 1994 I was playing in the cafeteria in school without sleeves, and I had power in my decks AND DUALS

Those bent dual lands, force of wills etc in Suvers deck make my skin crawl.

Cards were cards then, just to play the game- not hoarded treasure

Agreed

It had really good stats if you were beatdown. stats that went beyond 1power/1mana were quite efficient: Black Knight, Ironclaw Orcs, Woolly Spider, Ernham Djinn. All 'very efficient'. Phyrexian War Beast: same story. Though it makes less sense in such a superslow deck...

This creature looks like a bad card by today's standards. Back in the day, it lived through some of the premiere removal spells of its day (immune to Terror, four toughness for Lightning Bolt). It's stats were very aggressive for creatures during this time period. That said, Suver may have wanted to sideboard them given how poorly they lined up against Disenchant.

Creatures in general were bad then

Power creep hadn't ruined the game yet.

phatbastard0alkaline i know :( i double sleeve any cards worth $50+

+blacknotations Then you wouldn't have double sleeved those cards because they were worth less than 10 dollars by this point in magic. It's 1997, Lake of the Dead was worth more than revised duals.

+AnsticePalo this is when magic was perfect and every one could afford it...now the game is shit imo

@@anstytroll11 got that right !

+Lou Leo Yeah, such a heartbreaking sight...

its just cardboard this is wen magic was played as a game...smh i wish we could go back when trading cards were fun and everyone could get the cards they wanted and play instead of what it is now...rip fun magic

yooo i agree but its pretty wild to think no one cared to protect cards lol

Well, if you also forget that many if not most of those year's most dominant players were found out to be cheaters... So much for "fun". But yes, dual lands and other huge cards were more easily accessible.

Oh get over it lol

LOL I didn't even notice that until I read your comment. Hilarious.

I don't see how making that face implies that he's a douche bag. Am I missing something???

You don’t even know what they were saying.