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DADGAD vs Standard tuning for Irish guitar

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Anders Lillebo

Anders Lillebo

Күн бұрын

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@bachblue
@bachblue Жыл бұрын
Im on a vacation to Ireland next week and I thought I'd might brush up and learn some Irish music. I tuned in to a couple tutorials was fun but you two game me so much information I think I understand now. I'm going to learn a few DADGAD songs and then tell my wife I have to buy another guitar. Good job guys
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Happy to be able to spread nerdy knowledge 🤓 Enjoy your trip!
@lochlannlads2392
@lochlannlads2392 4 жыл бұрын
A couple of days ago I watched a short video by Matt Heaton where he demonstrates various chord shapes based on standard tuning. Half a minute in he does a full G chord and quickly adds he’d never use it, because it “crowds the tune”. I felt he somehow expressed essentially why I’m such a fan of DADGAD myself, for trad Irish backing. Anyway, I greatly enjoyed your discussion, and you’ve got a new subscriber. Great to see such devotion for Irish music - sånn fra én Nordmann til en annen ;-)
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Petter. Thanks for subscribing! Backing Irish music is indeed a tricky balance between adding to the overall groove and feel of the tune, without stealing too much attention. I'm no expert on the subject myself, but I love learning about it! Alltid hyggelig å møte andre med interesse for irsk musikk her til lands :)
@lochlannlads2392
@lochlannlads2392 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndersLillebomusic Ja ikke sant? Det var god kompis og treraderspiller Audun Eken som tipsa meg om deg. Vi har spilt sammen i mange år.
@Melvorgazh
@Melvorgazh 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter! I really like Matt and his lovely wife Shannon. And their Lives I don't miss every Dé Sathairn. Can you copy past the link to that video with Matt? He does some cool flatpicking too :)
@jsimes1
@jsimes1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Melvorgazh I'm not sure exactly which video Matt speaks about the G chord but here is a playlist of all of Matt's videos on Shannon's KZfaq channel. Matt and Shannon Heaton are wonderful people! kzfaq.info/sun/PLNBgNicF6tU2bTa9HJwU7DX7KgWlZTFIJ
@Melvorgazh
@Melvorgazh 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsimes1 What G chord are you talking about? I remember him saying about not to make the backing too crowded indeed. I was asking for a video of him where he plays the melody flatpicking whith Shannon. It was at the beginning of a set. I forgot the name if the tune. But I remember his flatpicking was as good as Flynn Cohen’s and I like it as much as John Doyle’s. A pity he doesn’t do it at all during the Live Saturday sessions. 🤷🏻
@jimrichards1026
@jimrichards1026 Жыл бұрын
Really good analysis and insightful comments. As a committed DADGAD player, I'd suggest finding alternative voicings for your chords, if your capo playing is sounding too samey 😊 but DADGAD is far and away my favourite tuning for Irish Traditional music, so if you haven't already - try it! ☘️
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your view Jim! I agree that you need to work on finding different interesting chord shapes to keep your open tuning playing fresh!
@Azimuth7
@Azimuth7 Жыл бұрын
DADGAD seem to be brighter and richer than common tuning. I´m a big fan of this tuning.
@funffunfacts7537
@funffunfacts7537 2 жыл бұрын
yeah yeah of course
@NumaManu
@NumaManu 11 ай бұрын
Well seen! I am a guitarist from Brittany in France. I play in standard and DADGAD. I prefer the DADGAD for modal music because of the drones and harmonic resonances and plays as standard for music like bossa-nova, jazz, rock...
@Melvorgazh
@Melvorgazh 3 жыл бұрын
Matt Heaton plays mainly in standard with great effect. He plays every Saturday with his lovely flute player wife and acolyte on a Live guided session on YT, Shannon Heaton
@steveshaw1713
@steveshaw1713 6 ай бұрын
Great video. I am over 70, and feel I've so much still to learn. I really wish I'd been able to study a folk course in the North East, but these courses just weren't available then. Given that most of us don't use our degrees in any relevant way in any case, learning a life skill like music at university is a no brainer whether you use it directly 😀or not. I studied classics and ended up being an accountant! I play in both DADGAD and standard, but I find that in sessions I favour standard because I don't like to change capo. Actually, in sessions I tend to back myself both ways, since I use a repurposed baritone guitar with a 740mm scale tuned down two semitones (DGCFAD) with a Kyser K-lever drop D (green) capo at the second fret (equivalent to a 660mm scale at the second fret). This gives me a low D in the bass (which can be fretted to E with the K lever), and leaves me free to move between keys without changing capo position. I also use a Kyser K-lever (blue) DADGAD capo at the second fret (fretting only the 3rd, 4th and 5th strings), which again enables me to fret the bottom string to E with the lever while leaving the top two strings open (to ring A and D), and maintaining the facility to access standard tuning too. Sadly, these Kyser K-lever capos are no longer made, which is often the way with good ideas. I've also experimented with Scruggs-Keith tuners (on strings 6, 2 and 1), Tronical tuners and Roadie tuners over the years with Scruggs-Keith tuners being the quickest, Roadie tuners the more accurate and Tronical not great. If I had a decent ear, I'd be able to switch tunings quickly and without tuners, but in sessions and live this process can take a while, although if your fiddle or box player tells a good story (and they usually do) that helps! Thanks you again for your excellent video.😃
@brianrenenielsen923
@brianrenenielsen923 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for great informative KZfaq’s, you two guys are a great pair of competent chaps :-)
@bradklucowicz7049
@bradklucowicz7049 4 жыл бұрын
Great catch at 5:03. My heart skipped a beat
@assistantassistant5516
@assistantassistant5516 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That was immensely helpful - Cheers!
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thanks for watching!
@nwyankee2213
@nwyankee2213 Жыл бұрын
I loved your video and brief examples between Dadgad & Standard tunings. I play mostly in drop D now for many years but do enjoy Dadgad. Thanks for your insights and taking the time to share your passion of Irish music and guitar.
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in to our nerdy conversation Brad :)
@nwyankee2213
@nwyankee2213 Жыл бұрын
@@AndersLillebomusic I play in a Celtic band here in Victoria BC, Canada and was pleased to come across your videos as well as the videos with James. I'm always looking for inspiration from others who play with passion and sensitivity to the music. Thank you Anders👍
@Berhanu1992
@Berhanu1992 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing video, thank you guys. You are very talented. I hope this video will encourage my friend to study this incredible style.
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Happy you got value out of the video!
@conordoyle3935
@conordoyle3935 3 жыл бұрын
Great insight into standard v dadgad. Thanks a lot.
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 3 жыл бұрын
Happy you found it useful. Thanks for watching!
@db6050
@db6050 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the presentation, and the thoughtfully intelligent discussion and demonstrations, hitting on the points and nuances of the standard and DADGAD tuning choices. I like the concept expressed as "movement between the chords." While I love DADGAD, especially on 12-string guitar for its massive sound in solo playing, it is a challenge to not immerse every Irish song in a Dsus4 tsunami of drone strings that approximates a bagpipe regiment, even in fingerstyle.🤗 One only needs to hear players such as Pierre Bensusan and Tony McManus to appreciate the possibility of subtleties within that alternative tuning. Drop D and DADGAD certainly lend themselves to Celtic music, but James shows the more accessible versatility of standard. It all depends what a song needs, really.
@brendanmcdaid8514
@brendanmcdaid8514 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion, must try and do more in dadgad
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 2 жыл бұрын
Dadgad is a ton of fun!
@Melvorgazh
@Melvorgazh 4 жыл бұрын
It also depends what mode is the tune in and what instruments you back.
@banjoman44
@banjoman44 Жыл бұрын
Whoa....D-35 nearly went for a burton! excellent job guys.
@songsandtunesofpatsyobrien221
@songsandtunesofpatsyobrien221 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, guys and GREAT playing! Will share with my viewers.
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Happy you enjoyed it!
@guloguloguy
@guloguloguy 3 жыл бұрын
THANKS, FOR THIS GREAT DEMO, AND EXPLANATION!!![ANDERS:.FYI: ...YOUR CLOCK HAS STOPPED!....]
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! So happy you enjoyed it. The wall clock has now been retired, and the whole room has been renovated. Looking forward to show you the result in future videos!
@davebates3787
@davebates3787 3 жыл бұрын
Great discussion guys! Learned a lot! Thanks!
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Dave! Happy you enjoyed the video. Looking for topics to make videos about at the moment, let me know if you have any ideas 💡
@neildobbs7278
@neildobbs7278 Жыл бұрын
Great informative video
@ParkourGurl
@ParkourGurl 3 жыл бұрын
This video is great, I am just getting into playing folk/celtic music and.. I was wondering if it would be possible for you could to send me a tab of the chords you normally play in the different keys of a Standard Tuned guitar. I would really appreciate it!
@trijbijop
@trijbijop 3 жыл бұрын
this topic. this talent. these accents. these faces i am happy
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the interior design!
@wiesbadenmwrmarketing
@wiesbadenmwrmarketing 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and inspiring.
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@grantburgh1
@grantburgh1 Жыл бұрын
where can i learn some guitar from James?? Great sounding player.... does he have his own lessons or page?
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic Жыл бұрын
James is great! You can reach out to him on Instagram @jimmypatrickguitar
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 6 ай бұрын
Good man Anders!
@dawna7476
@dawna7476 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed my man. Loving the channel 🙌
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the sub! I'm still playing around with different ideas for this channel, but it was great fun having my mate James on as a guest in this one. If you ever have ideas or suggestions for video topics you would want to see from me, please let me know!
@danielelobuono9478
@danielelobuono9478 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastici
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man!
@Melvorgazh
@Melvorgazh 4 жыл бұрын
Personnaly I prefer Drop-D. Only when you play tunes in E dorion you gota put the capo and fine tune the strings again. Donough Henessy plays in Double Drop-D :) I must try the sitar-tuning
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 4 жыл бұрын
Drop D is a great tuning for Irish music! It gives you a bit more flexibility with chords than dodged, but you still have that powerful D bass.
@Melvorgazh
@Melvorgazh 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndersLillebomusic Indeed. I tried DADAGAD and it's not easy and when playing tunes in different keys like E Dorian it wasn't so great. I suppose for backing only it's fine. Finally subscribed. Where are you from? Me from Brussels 🙂
@derrickdoiron4421
@derrickdoiron4421 2 жыл бұрын
@@Melvorgazh DADGAD is one of the most versatile tunings for Irish/Celtic music because the majority of songs are in D or a relative key. Backing or fingerstyle it's a lovely tuning but it needs practice if you're not used to playing open tunings. I've danced back and forth with it, DD, DDD and standard and I eventually stuck with drop D. It's easier to tune back up to E for when I play the standard strumming tunes in the band and drop it down for doing some backing.
@Melvorgazh
@Melvorgazh 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickdoiron4421 Interesting. But If I play in Drop-D I have no bass in E (which I love) especially for E-dorian tunes. I also play in G and A dorian a bit.
@Goguygo1
@Goguygo1 Жыл бұрын
Love this video! What's the name of the lovely tune you're playing in the beginning?
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The tune is called «Luke's Jig», written by Luke O'Malley
@Goguygo1
@Goguygo1 Жыл бұрын
@@AndersLillebomusic Super, thanks! I have O'Malley in my heritage. Cool
@danielelobuono9478
@danielelobuono9478 4 жыл бұрын
Siete dei grandi
@Melvorgazh
@Melvorgazh 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Dia dhaoibh! Anyone tried the sitar-tuning for Celtic trad? I would say it depends if you play alone or in bigger bands(where you can stop the backing and allow yerself to move the capo arround. For flatpicking definitely standard! because it suits key change without the capo better. ps: excellent video! Diolch! Trugarez! Grma!
@tcoudi
@tcoudi 3 жыл бұрын
nice d18 and 35
@blumenthol
@blumenthol 3 жыл бұрын
I play both accordion and guitar - it is impossible to play either when your hands are freezing.
@AndersLillebomusic
@AndersLillebomusic 3 жыл бұрын
True! We didn't do many takes 😄
@Melvorgazh
@Melvorgazh 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone knows in which tuning Julia Toaspern, Tia Files and Jenn Butterworth play? 3 skilled ladies on the guitar ❤️
@jsimes1
@jsimes1 2 жыл бұрын
I know Julia and Tony McManus and the both play in many different tunings. Julia plays in standard more than open tunings because she plays more jazz and pop songs.
@Melvorgazh
@Melvorgazh 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsimes1 Thanks. I asked her too. I didn’t see your response before, sorry. She said she played mostly in standard. Ans she also said she had a special plectrum made by a friend. By the way. I am looking for a plectrum that is slightly tougher than a Nylon Dunlop 0.60mm, something like 0.63-065mm. Would you by any chance know a brand that makes something like that? Thanks a lot! Greetings from Brussels Belgium. Have a good day! Thomas
@elcono1000
@elcono1000 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing ! Can you advise me some good irish guitar players to listen ? I know O'Domnhail, Paul Brady.. looking for more inspiration.
@erickfp
@erickfp 3 жыл бұрын
Look up Arty McGlynn, he was probably the most influential. Also Daithi Sproule, Dennis Cahill, John Doyle, Garry O'Briain, Paul De Grae, Tommy O'Sullivan, etc.
@elcono1000
@elcono1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@erickfp Thank you very much!
@erickfp
@erickfp 3 жыл бұрын
@@elcono1000 You're welcome. Take the time to watch this documentary about Arty, it's really worth it: www.tg4.ie/en/player/categories/irish-music-series/play/?pid=5855558975001&title=Arty%20McGlynn
@elcono1000
@elcono1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@erickfp Great i will ! Thanks !! :)
@WahyuEPNgeYoutube
@WahyuEPNgeYoutube Жыл бұрын
Nah, Saya mencari yang menggunakan tuning standart. Karena jika DAD bla bla... 🤣😀😀
@fredrice415
@fredrice415 10 ай бұрын
Go raibh maith agat!
@chrisgarret6761
@chrisgarret6761 4 күн бұрын
Please stop the music when you're speaking.
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