Something about this thought really strikes deep with me, like it just puts the unfairness of good/bad circumstances happening to good/bad people in such clear light, it's saddening.

ngl boss that is extremely fucking depressing indeed, damn rip

one thing is rebelling, other thing is doing something dangerous that might cost him his life.. going to another city without anyone knowing and lying about it is not a little thing, it's something far more dangerous

​@@user-zt4qr7mz4fHe was just a kid, clearly doesn't know what is or isn't dangerous, and I doubt his parents thought something like this would happen, so they didn't warn him. Stop blaming the victim, the people who should be decent and not do anything bad to lost little boys, blame the person who hurt him.

​​@@readytodietoday127they are just pointing out it's a little too much to call it a teenage rebellion, not victim blaming ... Being sympathetic for the victim is understandable but that doesn't mean we shouldn't point out the wrong doings of the victim even tho his age justifies it and we r outsider anyway , we shouldn't go deep into such stuff

the panic-

depends from all the things he did and i could see he planned everything so idk

And the longer he takes to reconnect with his family, the harder it will be for them to forgive him, but there must have been something wrong in his life to make him disappear in the first place.

@@daisychain3007 Harder to forgive him? You don't have children, do you?

@@ThePdog3k No, I do not, thank goodness, but if a child ran away from home or calculatedly organised his disappearance, especially if he stayed away for several years, his parents would naturally get worried, hurt and angry. They would feel that he disappeared because of unresolved issues with them and because he is angry with them. Therefore, they would find it difficult to forgive him and the longer he stays away, the more they worry and the angrier they become.

Some kids never tell you all most kids in fact depending on age

As a parent I just know when something is off.

I heard that sudden change of routines are a sign of being suicidal. People who plan to kill themselves tend to be more reckless and happy in the last days of their live.

@@eforoyal can confirm.

A sudden change in routine? Isn't that puberty?

They neeed to checkk all camera’s in londen And near the cross station it may be that he got into someone's car… but i think they cant get the cameras from 2007

I feel like thats one good thing we could possibly get out of AI - better tracking from public cameras @@Ishowspeedben_

I'm annoyed with today's school administration. It shouldn't take half a day to notify a parent if a child is absent. Every class does a "roll call." If a student is an unexused absentee, it should show up in the system IMMEDIATELY and a parent needs to be notified. Each and every teacher should be reporting absent students throughout the day since a student could easily walk away from school at any time. Too much lax and assumption cause oversight.

Agreed. Absolutely soul destroying. How would you ever stop coming up with worst case scenarios?

Worst ever....

Really hoping the recent Police arrests can help bring some closure for his family. Or at least spur members of the public or those involved to provide a case breakthrough. Heartbreaking indeed.

If he was alive, he would be around 28 years old, sadly the parents don´t have a picture of him anymore

please watch your son

💔💔💔💔

They made 2 arrests about this last month, I havent heard anything since.

been done before

2 men have been arrested

when

what is intelligent? Just bec he was good in math and hat is logic intelligence doesn't mean he also had social intelligence for example

@@iki12737 That is pretty much what I already implied.

Why is that?

​@@ctrldelete1763because it's crazy that a place so monitored has nothing

@@ctrldelete1763I’ve noticed when major events happen not a single bit of recording of said event

Just goes to prove that none of it is for society’s benefit

@@ctrldelete1763 It might sound silly but you must consider some very important points. First is how much footage they'd have to sift through. The local police force had the British Transport Police search through footage from within two days of his disappearance. That's at a minimum hundreds of hours of footage to sift through, and you can't just speed through it or you'd almost certainly miss him. You'd have to watch practically every second with full attention to try to spot him out of a crowd in what is likely to be far from optimal video conditions. And this is just within two days of his disappearance. If you expand the scope then you'd easily be looking at thousands of hours of footage when you account for every possible camera they'd have to check. It's entirely possible that he was recorded more recently than was found, in fact I'd say it's basically guaranteed, but the person who was watching through that footage could just simply been unable to identify him. Second is the fact that footage is routinely wiped or recorded over due to storage limitations and it's possible there would be no footage to review from the time of his disappearance. It's worth keeping in mind that the first successful identification of Gosden was weeks after his disappearance.

I was thinking that. and it could have been to go to shows. i was thinking he told him he would take him back home cos he has a car cos it would be night and late and boring on the train back home. and that yeh this guy was the groomer dude who he meant acouple week earlier

Yes Keir, I think his change in mood is a BIG clue. Meeting up with this person in London would've also made it easier to get him to say YES because, of course, he was familiar with London. But somehow I don't think he got to the gig. If it even was real. There's many other cases of people being tricked into going to see someone ie for a job, which turns out to be a fatale mistake in judgement. David

True, change in mood be a person. But it could also be excitement over a new school?

Same thing I thought!! He must’ve met someone he thought was cool

He did mention this

But there was no need to call them at all. I mean, he could have been sick, stuck in the public transport and a couple of other issues. As he was a guy that always was on time.

@@song-one1910 Its what you have to do in UK. Normally schools are incredibly late. They either phone the parents because it's super weird for your child to not show up, OR it happens a lot and the parents need to know for punishment etc. I think it's good they do it. Normally your parent just phones you and gets where you are or tells the school to mark you absent.

@@song-one1910 Which... are exactly reasons why they should have called them. If he was sick in home then the patent would say that and noone would worry. But that wasn't the case.

@@song-one1910 its pretty much what schools do in the uk, if you dont show up to registration you get a call home, even if its only been like 10 minutes after school starts and the child may just be late

I understand, Thanks guys. Whatever, hopefully this fella is alive.

nothing was found on his computer or xbox, he never owned a phone.

@@sugargliderdudetheory is the person gave him a phone to keep secret and he may have used an internet cafe which were common place in ‘07

​​@@ANDCFC95till doesn't have sense. Why he never talked about this with his parents? Hey mom I'm going out with "x" is that ok? He was a smart kid I know he knew that whatever he was doing was not something their parents would allow him to do. He didn't have friends per se. And he coudnt communicate by phone because he hadn't one. I really don't know what to think of this. 1) he had online friends on his Xbox 360. Maybe that would have something to do with it 2) maybe a family member kidnapped him 3) the fact that he didn't want a phone could mean that he was being called by his future kidnapper. Maybe he answered one time, he got scared and stop answering even tho he received calls every day until the phone broke and it was a relief to him. Maybe the kidnapper contracted with him somehow and made him to do this. I still don't think this is true because he was very smart. it seems like he knew what he was doing but somehow thing didn't turn out good. He loved metal maybe he wanted to go to those concerts and was afraid their parents wouldn't allow him to go. So he scaped but forgot that he is just a kid and can't defend himself against adults.

He met someone at the university, they groomed and misled him, then raped him and killed him

I think he was with this person on the walks home from school, and that the person offered him a lift home when they arranged this meet up

I don’t know how they could’ve blamed the dad when he wasn’t even there

They let there child listen to heavy metal music and travel to big cities on his own there're definitely to blame

cops being cops

@@catscanhavelittleasalamiYou mean investigating all leads?

@@Mcmahon90Tf heavy metal music got to do with anything?

I've read on Wikipedia that the Police thought It was Better to interrogate the parents and Friends instead of controlling other cameras

That is weird, the police are nuts.

@@HarukaHeartsThat’s so fucking stupid and infuriating, CCTV should be the first thing checked in any case where it’s a possible lead. I guess they’ve learnt that now with how they put it to use in catching Wayne Couzins in the Sarah Everard case.

Because it's so busy they couldn't pick him out.

​@@klausheller6699do you know how easy it is to be a policeman? You don't need education all you need is a passport, there doing it for holiday pay, sick pay, pension and stability! All they arrest is people doing drugs who are only hurting themselves and also most are freemasons

I agree. Came to the same conclusion.

yes thats the conclusion I came to as well... if other bright kids have gone missing, it would be interesting to see if lancaster uni was the link.

That's what I was thinking, just wondering how and where

I haven't even watched this video and that is the obvious answer.

Agreed

any idea what could have happened to him?

@@meggriffin94 my theory was grooming and kidnapping to be honest, sad as it sounds. He’s either dead or still captive. Having met his parents a few times and been to a birthday party of his I could see no reason for him to willingly disappear forever

Something happened at that university that he went to. I feel that the cops should have really looked into the university trip a lot more. I honestly hope he's okay if he's still alive.

@@joshthebosch1214 idk, captive at 27ish??, not saying it hasnt happened before but damn that sucks. :( i thought the same thing tho, either ded or captive, either way sad af

I always wondered why I don’t see more friends of missing teens/adults online. If someone I knew went missing years ago I would check online/social media all the time. It’s good to see a friend of Andrew’s is still keeping up with him. I’ve never heard anyone speak of him but his immediate family. I feel terrible for Andrew’s loved ones and hope you all get answers soon.

Love the distinct UK dialect! Awesome description and accent that I can hear even in your writing. The UK use of language is so polite. Wish I could have been born in England, rather than the Rocky Balboa dialect of Jersey City, New Jersey! 😡😠

@@Hard_Car_Life I love the USA accents. Xx

​@@Hard_Car_LifeEw stop a** kissing. 😂

@@youforget1000thingsaday - Ass kissing? Why would I do that?! You're just a f**king douchbag! Nough said.

@@youforget1000thingsaday Me nose is so brown.

Gotta risk it for the biscuit 😂

Interesting theory, I was thinking someone from that Uni groomed him… If you don’t mind me asking, could you explain how you were nearly abducted? That’s so shocking and sickening, I’m so sorry that happened to you😪

Something in the same vein happened to me as a teenager. And I was sneaky, I made sure to use library computers to go looking for trouble. Andrew’s groomer didn’t even necessarily have to pretend to be younger than he was.

@@rayna3244 Sure, this will be long so I apologise in advance. The first time was when I was a toddler. There was some council housing behind our house and there were always weird people living there. My parents were very strict with stranger danger and all that, so I was always under supervision, but one day I was in the backyard with my little sister (I was probably 3 or 4, she would've been about 2) and we were playing. My mum had been supervising us but she had to go inside to do something, I think answer the phone. Almost as soon as she was gone, this scrawny, strange-looking man appeared at our back fence. He looked a bit like Charles Manson, very creepy. He had climbed halfway up the fence, and asked my sister and I if we wanted to see the chickens in his backyard. I don't remember much but I do remember being scared of him and not really being able to speak because I was afraid. My mum came out and saw him, and she completely ignored him. She just took my sister and I inside like nothing was happening and then called my grandfather (my dad was at work) to come over. The second and third time both happened when I was 13. I frequently wagged (skipped) school in the middle of the day, and walked the streets of my neighbourhood. I felt safe because I assumed that a 13 year old was too old for paedophiles, but I was wrong. One day, a bald man began following me around the streets. I wasn't sure if he was actually a threat or if I was paranoid, so I took very random routes down different streets, and tried to see if he was following me. He did follow me, every step of the way, and at one point he called out to me, saying I'd dropped something. I hadn't dropped anything. I turned a corner and crossed a very busy road to a park, and he didn't follow me across. The third and final time happened later that year when I was walking to my grandparents' house. I had to cross that same busy road I just mentioned to get there, and while I was waiting to cross a car with blacked-out windows pulled up in front of me with two men in it. They asked me for directions to a place I'd never heard of, and I kept my distance from the car. I told them I didn't know and suggested they ask an adult across the road. They then pulled out a map (bizarre for 2015) and asked me to come closer to the car so I could see it. I refused and they swore at me and drove off very quickly. I've had some other weird stuff happen but nothing as obvious as those times

And what evidence do you have to support grooming? Gotta love you armchair youtube detectives lol

glad ur still here and safe ~

My friend and I missed the coach after a concert when we went to Malta. We had to wait outside in the dark for my friends parents to arrive. They were not happy because it had all been carefully arranged and we were now alone. There was a middle aged man who kept hanging around watching us, so we decided to go nearer to the road to a bench so we were more visible. He didn't seem like he was gonna leave us though and asked us to come with him in his car and that his hotel was just down the road. I had already told him in a very firm way that my friends parents are on the way so it was obviously weird that he asked us to go with him. I think my behaviour finally made him relent and he left because I was not friendly to him. I could not be convinced. My friend was terrified so I had to do all the talking. I am 100% convinced he meant us harm. Oh and he was very insistent and was trying to convince us for what felt like a long time. His smile and behaviour was forced.

Bless you and stay safe everyone❤

I’m 13 (gonna be 14 soon) and I just wanted to say thank God there are lots of ppl talking about this because now I know what’s wrong and what’s right

💔

I couldn’t imagine what that would be like… his poor parents… 💔 they’ll never get to see him again, never know what he would grow up to be like…

@@dgmmgd8506He may not be. Do not write such things because his parents and other relatives might have watched this video.

@@daisychain3007 it’s highly likely he is dead though. His parents already know this

@@squirrel8161 I’m not stating I know he’s dead. I’m saying he is more than likely dead. Plus that BS logic is pathetic, grow up

@@dgmmgd8506 saying grow up comes off as ironic when you are acting edgy under comments of a youtube video lol

but if he expected to come back why wouldn't he have bought a return ticket?

The lorry driver and his network of friends were nothing short of guardian angels if you ask me . Long distance lorry drivers have been known to be one of the worst type of predators known to the police . God keep your particular driver friend and his buddies in his grace .

Seriously cool to hear stories that affirm a real man's instincts and behavior. All men aren't monsters. There are far more men that would die to protect a woman than would victimize one or we wouldn't exist as a species. I hope I don't sound mysogonist,I really am not! I just know that basically every man has women they admire and love fiercely. Wives, Mothers, sisters. There are definitely creeps and predators and men just seem somehow not as capable as like the WW2 era. I don't think the women are as capable now as then either though. For all the talk now of how strong women are....those women literally kept our Nation running while the men fought evil incarnate in Hitler. That era had some hard men and woman, it's just that it wasn't celebrated in women then. So....this has been " Rambling Rick". Appreciate story and glad that we didn't have to watch your story! Much rather you keep adding chapters! 👍

@@tapsars7911 Didn't Jeremy Clarkson get into trouble over lorry driver remarks.

That's messed up, but no doubt my dumb teenage self would have done the same. That's why it's likely he met the wrong person deliberately, meeting up with someone he met at that school or crossed paths with the wrong person.

Wow damn you were lucky!

Same. I took a kinda big break from this case but came back to it. Man even if he's dead or alive, I hope he is found and I really don't want the grooming theory to be true but a big part of me believes that.

Google the kid again..there's been a break. Two suspects were found and arrested. The implication by the police is that the suspects are human traffickers who wanted to f a kid. Basically pedophile groomers.

@@coolchannelyt That is like, the worst advice ever. Reddit detectives are very rarely helpful, and oftentimes harmful.

I personally belive that 13:01 could very well be him… Like same nickname, same “leaving house at 14” story, plus him having a boyfriend, which is something his parents suspected… idk i have feeling that could be him, but if that’s the case i wonder why he isn’t contacting his parents

Two men were arrested in December, have you seen?

I wonder why the clerk told him to buy a return in the first place, wasn't he adamant in buying a one way ticket? For all the clerk knows he could be catching the train to go home.

⁠​⁠@@ctrldelete1763I remember reading that the clerk was offering him the ticket with the return because it was cheap

Yeah, that or they promised they'd buy him a return ticket. It would be enough to convince a kid to come meet them, especially since one ticket was already expensive. "oh it's pricey but they were nice enough to tell me they'd drive me home/pay for my way back, so refusing them would be kinda mean" would be something a socially awkward kid would think. Not seeing the obvious red flag.

2024, they were released in september.

My Theory (few knowledge of the case): Someone from the uni. promised him to take him to a concert (prob. slipknot bc of the shirt). He was 14 yo less likely to run away from home (unless if he was abused) Why take a video game and cash? Also can u record on that ps game??

@@anunknownperson4018 mmm but if he knew he was just skipping school and going to a concert, why didn’t he purchase a return ticket?

@@asmrlacedwithpearls4310 it's possible that the person would have offered to give him a lift back, and that he wanted to save as much money as possible for London which is why he refused a return ticket. It's also possible that he intended to stay overnight with the person, which would have made a same day return useless.

They made 2 arrests about this last month, I havent heard anything since.

Yeah he was definitely manipulated by some adult, why would a kid just buy a one way ticket to some place far away from they house for absolutely no reason 💀. Especially if his parents weren't abusive and his life sounded great, someone definitely told him to do it

They made 2 arrests about this last month, I havent heard anything since.

@@Mike--Oxmall From what I heard they were released.

Thank u

Nope. Real life is not a Hallmark movie. There is no karma, it is often the case that bad things happen to good people, and bad people live long, happy lives.

No justice , prison ain't justice . They'll get out and do it again. We sure need the hangman in town ..

or he could have forgoten it,he was in a bit of a rush and maybe even scatterbrained as he never did this before

The whole time I got the feeling that he was autistic. Hard to say without knowing him personally.

Yep

I always see his face on bus stops.

@@Lucas02000 I see his face near JD

Ireland too.

Yep I live near his parents and often walk by their house his poster is all over Doncaster.I always wonder what happened to him and check to see if there's any updates in the case.

Rice witch 100% and that has happened to lots of parents, very sad, how evil some people are just saddens me

I remember one of the mothers of the children killed and buried on the moors who never gave up looking for him, she’d always be up there on digging operations, never gave up. On her death bed she begged her sons murderers to tell her where her son was so she could lay him to rest. The ba5tards never told her. They wanted to keep that ‘power’. Evil. I remember feeling so awful for her.

Can't even imagine what it would be like waking up every morning to that reality.

I hope they will in their next life…

I believe that they would find out after they passed away. I find it odd that people say they died with never knowing. I believe they found out after they died though.

Yeah

Your theory makes sense

I definitely don't believe the grooming theory because there has never been any online evidence to support the grooming theory

@@user-ch9iq7dq2f that's... not really a theory but an information that came from Andy's family.

and they said they were 14 when they left home (the age Andrew was) not 16 like is stated in the video

Trans?😂

@@Carnagecadavar122 sorry I don’t support pretend

@@Carnagecadavar122 except that has nothing to do with the missing kid in the video. I was responding to the comment that guy made.

@@Carnagecadavar122 yes making sure gender dysphoria people are getting the help they need is human rights.

@@Carnagecadavar122 lol no I don’t mean unnatural sex change surgery😂 I mean mental health treatment. Everyone deserves help!!

The bigger the city, the easier it is to disappear.

It took officers working on the case a shocking 27 days to retrieve footage of Andrew's last known movements at King's Cross Station. And they didn’t get any surrounding areas cctv footage when the family requested it, it had all been wiped

@@user-eg5kt9fy2j that’s insane

Aliens

@@puppiesarepower3682 negligence

Realy? 😂

LMAO

Brilliant lol!

🤣

XD

or or...his family was shity to him for being gay so he buggered off

nothing worse when someone can't watch a video about another person going thru a tragic event without having to say "OH OH ME TOO ME TOO!!! I WAS GROOMED TOO!!" as if you're eagerly awaiting your award and standing ovation for being a "survivor".

@@sammysappy what a horrible way for you to respond. Shame on you.

​@@sammysappyI can see your frustration but that isn't the point of bringing it up. When people say that when adding something to the conversation, it's to establish personal experience with the context of the discussion. i.e., "I experienced this before, and from that experience I can see the same patterns". As opposed to "I've watched a few videos on this topic, so I'm qualified to say this".

​@@joelellks4063 yeah thanks for a good response. Theres absolutely people Who wave it like a trophy. Not this guy though

@@sammysappy You seem like a total asshole. Just sayin'.

It would be a lie to say I don't want to monetize it, I do. But my goal is always to try and tell an informative story as accurately as possible while keeping it engaging so people will keep watching. It's a hard balance to strike but I try to always remember these are real people and they really suffered.

@@PeakedInterest I think you always manage to keep this balance really well, I really enjoy your content! ^^

Glad you understand

@@PeakedInterest it’s fully understandable to want to monetize your videos, i mean, we all need to make an income somehow. but you still manage to retain a ton of integrity and it is clear you see this as more than a cash grab or a ~spooky story~ to profit off of, which is very admirable :)

@rambunctiousvegetable one example would be Kitchen Nightmares UK vs US

I personally think he’s still alive

I don't think Andrew when to the gig on his own accord because if he didn't plan on meeting anyone, he would've bought a return ticket.

@@Fucksandyy your name is suspicious

That makes so much sense! I totally agree with you.

It could also answer why another maths student his age went missing a little while after. Perhaps that student took a trip to that university too and was groomed by the same person

This sounds like the most plausible explanation.

This sounds plausible but then why did he take out all the contents of his account and buy a one way ticket if he was just planning on going to a concert

@@anfxotwod hmm good point, maybe the person luring him offered a place to stay for a while? And that the ticket home would be sorted when he was ready to leave?

Good to hear. I hope it’s the right people.

Can you provide the link please? I would like to read about it.

Gods, this case is so chilling... Amen to that. 🙏🙏

Good to know! Hope that Andrew will be able to make it home.

Wow okay hope they find him and that he’s safe

You are probably on the right track. Two men were recently charged with kidnapping and trafficking in connection with this case. Up to the last recorded sighting of Andrew at the station in London, there is no suggestion that he felt he was in any danger.

@@kenmccormick8059 They were released but police said they have seized a number of devices from the two men and expect these will take between six and 12 months to analyze

Lack of charger = he didn't think he was going to be gone for that long. He probably brought the PSP so he could occupy himself on the train.

either that or he was planning on coming home and the reason he didn’t get a return ticket is because the person probably told him they’d take him home

@@meggriffin94 exactly

i think this too i think he met someone at the summer school, this would explain a lot, maybe that is why he walked home because he wanted time to sort things out with this person, i hate to say it but i think he is dead and will never be found.

Yes honestly as soon as I heard about the program at the college, I immediately felt he met someone there, hence the change of attitude and I bet that's the person he met with and was never seen again.

This seems likely. I wonder if someone that was there saw him talking or spending time with anyone more than others…

After more research, I doubt this actually. The summer program was the summer previous and without access to an online device I very much doubt he would have been able to keep in contact with anyone for over a year. I lean towards a spontaneous trip and foul play 😞.

@@rickywheeler9335 he had an email and used xbox live, he had access to the internet and ways to contact people

Jealous why?

@@PeakedInterest🙈just a fangirl moment and now I feel silly😅….I’m only human😋

Maybe or maybe he got kidnapped

They mentioned hed take the trains to see his grandparents often

When I was a kid I walked up to random people and held their hands or would walk with families for several blocks for no reason.

He had been to London before he had family in sidcup and they regularly visited those place to see museums and the family

Usually doesent happen the first time. He was walking in dangerous waters talking to strangers and got hooked 😔

They must have been extremely repressive to think their son would resort to that, he disappeared in 2007, and the father waited till 2009 to appeal to the gay community. It’s pretty offensive but typical that religious types are so ignorant they confuse homosexuals and pedophiles.

they sound like sweet people, I feel so awful for them

sounds somewhat plausible i suppose, not that they necessarily projected that onto him but perhaps a kid being afraid of a difficult realization in identity thought that he had no option maybe

Disgusting

@@shahaffiq5860 ya mama? I agree👍🏻

yep,this is the most likely one,happens all the time kids running away,the dad clearly knew something when he said he was probably gay,religious parents,the kids actions,the 2019 online thing,paints a pretty clear picture

He probably died a long time ago, it’s unlikely he survived in London as an absent minded 14 year old.

I highly doubt that. He has been killed, committed suicide or started a "new life" with someone else.

@@MaxMustermann-hd7oe starting a new life without telling his parents is not even a chance

@@anunknownperson4018 damn sad...

@@MaxMustermann-hd7oe He is still alive, look up on bing "Pizza party, train gorsen" He is still there and his kidnappers post daily online.

@@valverios oh stop it is evil to lie on something like this

Investigators should definitely interview everyone he had contact with. I'm sure the other students would have noticed if he had made a special connection with one of the college counselors or something of that nature.

@@Ephesians5-14 you’re right the kids would notice but would they talk.

Well death would be preferable to life in a lunatics custody. Poor boy we have something like that here in Australia Daniel morcombe he’s simply was walking to the shops when a man offered a lift so in turn the man murdered possible raped him and dumped him in the swamp when he was found there was almost nothing left the crocodiles and vultures got to him. His murderer now will live in relative comfort in jail. supplied the right to live while denying that poor boy his right to live RIP to both these boys

Poor kid is dead unfortunately. He met someone online probably someone posing as a girl and using a girl’s pictures. And then met up in London somewhere and that was it. Probably molested, raped, etc I can attest to this because in the past I’ve been tricked online or on dating sites cat fished. When I met up the girl would say knock on the door, or go to the backyard very creepy. I would leave right away and I learned my lesson.

@@janblackman6204 sure, I think so. I would not be surprised if some kids have already come forward to the police and maybe even spoken with the perp but dismissed them. Predators are so very good at coming across as a decent person and covering their tracks. When I was a kid, there was a youth pastor paying me too much attention, attention I didn't want if you know what I mean. I told my parents what was going on and *so did my friends* who witnessed it. They both backed me up, in fact they noticed his attention to me before I did. I'll be honest, my parents didn't really believe us because this man was their friend and my mom just adored him. If I went missing and my friends had come forward with information, I'm certain they wouldn't have been believed because this guy was "an upstanding" person. I just really think the person who did this is at that university even now, or has graduated and is still hurting children. If I were his parents, I'd hire a private investigator.

Government maybe

& maybe he took his Xbox console so his parents couldn’t see who he had been interacting with on there?! Maybe the person or persons told him to do that and that’s why he wasn’t worried about the cords 🤔

Glad you solved the case. Now they are working for the Governemnt decoding the Enigma machine.

Or that he works at that university and found them on a field trip.

Please stop. Not all children are gullible. Stop being ageist

Yeah, most kids who are bullied only show signs of being bullied to their peers and occasionally their teachers who don't give a shit

I think a sadder reality is that he just didn't feel accepted

"They didn't show signs" may be (and often is) "I didn't notice/pay attention to the signs" I would guess.

People always say that about bullying and mental illness. My parents had no idea I was being bullied until I skipped school one day. Like Andrew, I was doing really well at school and was quite shy so it was unusual for me not to show up. No one had any ideas about my mental health issues either. It was only after I got taken to a hospital overnight and had to explain to my parents where I'd been

But is there any proof that he played his games online? They said he didn’t have an email address, and you would need one to play your game system online.

@@EyesHaveMiles420 it's very easy to make a 'trash email' for purposes such as gaming. Always did it when I was a teen

@@justmeiniowa he could've made a fake email from another computer though like at school or at a friend

Yes. I agree entirely. Xbox live would be my guess. I'm not against gaming mind you, nor the social aapect of it, but I strongly believe he was groomed and taken by a predator or organised ring

@@majlordag1889 but why would he? Why the secrecy?

That’s actually good thinking. Might explain why he didn’t take his PSP charger and some cash but not all, and his house keys. Seems he was only going out but not intending on staying away.

This makes the most sense to me, a lot of theories thrown about but this is the one with most credibility based on what evidence we have on the table. However this all played out, sadly he is likely long dead.

Surely he was meant to be smart enough to know that they wouldn't drive him back all the way home after him getting a train down

@@Everything-wo9ds his parents said he wasn't street smart

Yeah that is very likely. The one way ticket does not mean he didn't intend to come home and your theory explains how.

Thats so sad ,i feel for his family .

Absolutely heartbreaking

Did you ever meet him?

💔

Dang that's sad

Yes, this is one of those disappearances, that has baffled me for years. This is the best video I’ve seen so far, that has been made about this case.

I saw another video that touched upon this. I am am from Doncaster and had friends who went to Macauley school where Andrew attended. Been on that train line down to Kings cross soooo many times. Andrews case got barely any where near coverage or attention it should have done. Having lived in Doncaster…and not knowing anything about this case until several years later through awesome youtubers who make these videos. Edit: I was living in Leicester as a student in 2005-2009 but still wasn’t that well publicised according to family and friends.

@@Lilmisscostumedrama From what I’ve heard from all the videos covering this. The police really dropped the ball on this one. They didn’t try to retrieve video from cameras in London for months and most of it had been deleted by then. In addition, It took them way too long to figure out he went to London. They also didn’t really speak to many of the witnesses who’d seen him or didn’t actually consider what the witness had said. They wasted a lot of time focusing on Andrews Dad as a suspect instead.

A lot of people have mentioned the way he looks around, but I'd also say that I think most people look around like that when they're leaving King's Cross Station; it's an extremely busy and chaotic area, so he could've just been getting his bearings. But yes I agree that this case is really strange and baffling.

I noticed this as well. All the footage shows everybody surrounding him looking straight ahead and carrying on about their day. He is always looking off to the side.

Thanks for the kind words.

This is my very first video I saw from him. I’m so glad, that I decided to click in on this video, when it showed up in my recommendations. The way the video is made, and the time and effort put into making it and him considering all, even the tiniest detail regarding the case, blows me away. This is extremely well conducted investigative video into the case. The best one I’ve seen from anyone of this case. I can’t wait to see more of his content, this is phenomenal. Chefs kiss.

What happened when you reached Glasgow?

Can you elaborate on what happened?

Give us the juicy story, my popcorn is ready

But did slay though?

Don’t leave us on a cliffhanger!

I know politicians, judges and other prominent figures in society take part in human trafficking. This is why Ghislaine Maxwell trial needs to be made public.

or he deliberately ran away and hid himself from his family. There are also many cases like this, a family member intentionally disappears and then grows up to replace their identity in order to run away from his own family and their past. Oh his family claimed to be "DEVAOUT Christians". Christian has a lot of bad records on family/child abusers because of their bigotry. It could be that his closest relatives, friend even help to hide him

@@arik2216 we can only hope that’s the case. Otherwise, what happened to him is unimaginable. 😔

It's nice that someone else has this sentiment. I, too, wish I didn't know as much as I know.

@@arik2216 that’s quite the over-generalization.

Damn dude that's kinda scary, glad you're alright

sketchy stuff, I'm kind of grateful for all of those grooming PSAs we had to watch in school. I'm sure they've saved (at least) dozens of lives.

Little Mac was probably a man and sexual predator

And it was probably some 40 year old man 😩

I'm glad that by the time I used to talk on public chats I plan on never meeting up anyone.

Thanks, I get that a lot. Maybe I should release an audiobook 🤣

This case is old asf nobody will remember who tf he met it’s time to move on . People go missing everyday this kid not that special to waste quality time on him

@@TannerGoated you really have something against this lad don’t you. We can see your other comments. Repeatedly stating that he’s nothing special. Well he is! What makes you so special to be so certain that this case is not worth any time, detective Cobi?

@@TannerGoated How would you like it if you disappeared and nobody gave a shit?

@@TannerGoated why are u here then

@@TannerGoated bro shut up you're literally a kid who probably thinks he's some kind of edgelord

This is the only theory that makes sense to me

@@Bee-ly4gx I wish the police had investigated Andrew's visit at Lancaster University. Might have helped.

@@dragonfly6955 yes anyone he came into contact with there that had connections to London or who wasn’t at uni the day Andrew disappeared would have been a good start. My daughter actually did the same program at Lancaster uni for a few days whilst she was at school a couple of years after Andrew was there. I think that the police missed something there. To be honest this video is the first time I have heard any mention of his uni visit.

@@Bee-ly4gx Not to mention the fact that the police didn't check the cctv footage in London immediately. It would have helped immensely imo.

This makes total sense to me. Someone preyed upon this boy and persuaded him to walk right into their plan.

What doesn't add up however is that this request was made in 2018, eleven years after he went missing. He would have been 25 years old - plenty old enough to go to a Police Station to ask for help or let his family know he was ok etc. There are some unusual aspects to this story.

@@sw6188 The same way freak waves can crop up in the ocean, freak power dynamics can crop up in society. He may have been under threat. His family may have been under threat. There's no scenario that an author can write into a book that the underworld can't write into reality. Especially with the degree of doubt that this contention is certain to arouse.

What type of " facial scrub" do you use ???

@@daviddesrochers9439 I know a guy who owns a cosmetics company called Bateman Cosmetics, just for that reason- Bateman's impeccable grooming. Not sure if everyone gets it without reading the description. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to return some videotapes.

@@dianevanderlinden3480 that's cool, I have to dust my Phill Collins records!

Metal or not, Muse is a good band

@@bethanyherman8233 THEYY WILL NOOOTT CONTROLLLLLLLL USSSSSS

I think he was being groomed by someone online. its the only thing that makes sense

Very true

I also think that his mood that morning could point to the fact that he was meeting someone. The kind of mood a young boy might be in - if he had a bad pimple, or he was unable to make contact with the person that morning (ie. they weren't online) or they goaded him into making the trip. Is there a way to communicate with other regular players via PSP, like online game chat? (Would it have been possible for SONY to have determined his network of online friends/game players?) Maybe it was even someone pretending to be from one of the bands that he was keen on seeing... offering him backstage pass (or something) and a lift home. Or he was thinking of staying over at his Gran. He might not have bought a return ticket because he was also not sure WHEN he would return (ie. hoping to spend time with a person at the gig, maybe even a promise of allowing him to stay over). This is a really sad case. Well covered by you (Peaked Interest) and fair comment (especially about the Police playing their cards close to their chest) and theories of what might have happened to Andrew Gosden.

This right here, I felt that the Xbox was vastly ignored in the video as there's no mention of it ever again after it was shown. Add that to the fact that: How does an internet troll knows the nickname "Andyroo" that at the same time happens to be the same as the missing person in this case, that was another crucial detail that was not even mentioned and that puzzles me how it was incredibly ignored Personally, I'm very familiar with cybersecurity, database structures and UX to tell you, if you have used a nickname before in another platform (say a MMO or a game console) you are incredibly likely to reuse it since its easier to remember and most people have some emotional attachment to a specific nickname made in the past

I cannot confirm if true but I believe he had a XBox360 but no account, so he couldn't message other XBox users with account and he could not have played any online games. Also his Sony PSP account was checked as mentioned in the video and no leads there, the PSP wasn't really a multiplayer video game hand held back in the day (I own one and never messaged anyone or played anyting multiplayer - which was not popular on that device).

What happened after that

I hope you told the authorities as he would most likely pick another victim since you weren’t a good fit for his nefarious plans.

So glad you got back safely and was able to talk yourself out of a bad situation...👍

That is so crazy. I would started panicking. You keeping your wits about you I'm that situation is a miracle.

@@Deanna974 i think if he saw this person fear it would give him power…

Teachers are notoriously rubbish at tackling bullying. Tragic really.

I thought that too, bless his soul. I'm sorry you went through that Helen, I'm a 19 year old trans guy (came out last year, I'm so much more comfortable now) and school was hell for me, especially secondary school, it was mostly emotional/verbal bullying but that along with dysphoria was enough to make me want to not be alive from quite a young age. It still effects me now, I have very low self-esteem. If I ever adopt children, I'm going to make sure they feel that they can tell me anything so that if they're getting bullied, I can help them, and I'll make sure they know to never be cruel to other kids too. I think some people don't realize that bullying can affect someone so much, it sticks with you. And they seem to forget that you're not raising children, you're raising adults; they'll become adults one day and they'll have to adjust to the 'real world', so teaching them to be kind, open-minded and not hateful is so important.

@@superdrwholock Bullying also came into my thought as I was listening to this video. I'm a trans guy as well and my time in high school was awful. I did my best to avoid the routes the other teenagers used to diminish contact as much as I could. I'm 29 years old now and in a much better place (still in therapy though, but hey I'm getting there). I hope you are doing better my friend. Just want to let you know that you matter and you are amazing! God bless Andrew Gosden's soul, hopefully the answers will come eventually.

@@LuanEevee You too mate

Yes, all schools claim to have “zero tolerance” towards bullying, but a lot of the time this just means they pretend it doesn’t exist.

good job for bringing kids in an evil world

​@@slaydog5102wtf you expect him to do ? Let humanity die ?

@@LZMP60 ?? We have enough people, and you're not obliged to reproduce. In fact, you're stupid if you decide to have children nowadays. You natalists are mentally deranged.

​@@slaydog5102the world isn't evil, it's neutral

@@solaireastora5394wrong the people in this world are evil. All those that rejected Christ.

Thank you. Never had anyone say that before.

I had a bank account at primary school. I'm in NZ so maybe things are different in the UK.

Same

@@jaebonjiya1275 Im from the US and i never seen this boy on the news it should be international bc it can be a international group too

@@anunknownperson4018 yh true

This also links up with the change in routine in the two days before his disspearance. My theory is that he was walking home with someone who likely groomed him into attending a concert together. This is likely why he was unusually excited and enegetic when he got home, because he realised he was going to see one of his favourite bands live.

Bingo... we'll probably never know but I think this is the most likely scenario.

@@bobshenix two men have been arrested, their devices have been taken for review. Met police said 6-12 months to review all their devices.

why do u think it was a predator

What concert was playing at the time? Putting that slipknot t shirt on to me told a story of why he went to London

Maybe he was planning to stay the night with relatives? I wouldn't be surprised if he expected them to drive them back eventually and only didn't notify them beforehand because he expected them to tell his parents about the concert.

You should watch criminal minds even though its a show it gives you an idea what the victims go through

Maybe he committed suicide since he only bought a one way ticket

But then again Andrew was deaf in one ear, so he easily could've misheard or just replied without thinking about it (exactly what I would have done when I was an awkward 14 year old). His father, Kevin, also said in an interview that when they went to London they never bought return tickets in advance

@@liyre4189 what people also always seem to forget is that the return ticket is only usable THAT day in most cases, so maybe it just wasn't an option he considered since he thought he was just staying the night or smthing

@LP.Skates that was my hypothesis as well at the end of the video

This mystery just popped up on my news and it's almost solved!

@@lucaslindgren3237 fr?

@@ScarletBlueScarletBlue yeah two guys involved in some child sex trafficking ring

I heard some try report to the police and the police station tell him come back,the guy never came back, because there were closing soon,so sad

He just ran away from religious lunatic parents. Child sex traffickers are not interested in anyone that old. His parents have made up lies to cover up child abuse at home, that is all there is to this.

So how would he get home , he would have no money to buy a ticket,

im from down south and i will never forget his face because theres so many posters down here too i hope theyre still up to this day

Aww