Thank you. I genuinely couldn't have made this video without your superb research, it would've felt wrong not to credit you for it.

@@PeakedInterest Very much appreciated! Excellent conclusions you come to also, I will quote you on your findings on the pelvic bone from Kris (possibly not broken) and the foot fractures of Lisanne and link people to your video here.

Thanks. It was an interesting case to look at, very tragic. Are you always looking into mysteries on KZfaq ?

@@PeakedInterest Sometimes out of interest at the end of the evening, but not to report on them, normally. But at the time there was such limited information online about this specific disappearance case and there was so much Dutch information that seemed overlooked on sites such as wikipedia, that I started to write and translate it. Makes me have more respect for people who write or make videos about crime cases on a regular basis :)

I felt the same making my video, not easy to sift through all the information and put pieces together. You did a superb job, your blog was hugely influential on my video as was the huge photo archive that your friend made.

I thought taxi go to a single destination one at a time. I mean the taxi don't accompany two different customers at a time? Right?

@@markdy0510it should be that way, but some of them want to carry a lot of people. it has changed as we had some issues of assaults through out the years, some of them ask if you mind, I always say Im im a hurry so I dont want him to take another person, if they dont agree I get out.

@@mval2876 and also driver of a taxi must have a record in some kinda record list for every destination including date and time isn't?

@@markdy0510 Maybe where you live.

You’re vastly overrating your own ability to read “body language” in my opinion

He certainly had something to do with it I think.

Definitely fits the criteria of a murderer or serial killer who love to interject themselves into the search along with everything else being done....and then he finds them? Me thinks the murderer was in their midst the whole time.

The ones guilty usually those this to see where the case goes, maybe he just snatched when he save this girls and couldnt control himself.... what I noticied on his insta is that there were always couples or familys.. this was two solo girls with limited knowledge of the place, its just an easy cover up for the tour guide, scary stuff

@@Integratedsful not a good situation in that type of place so far from everything

Yeah he killed them for sure.

Yea. I just watched this video and my gut feeling is telling me it's the tour guide. When I look into his eyes, my radar goes OFFFF

it makes you wonder how much law enforcement may already know about him, there are so many red flags!!!

what’s his name??

@@lanaxrey Feliciano Gonzalez.

In a perfect world we should be able to travel around the safely..unfortunately this is what can happen to any of us Please be aware and plan trips such as this in a group. I hope whatever happened to them was quick RIP

Yeah like it's not my business they don't show up. People's plans change. The fact that he tried to be so involved since the beginning is a RED FLAG

AMEN @@seren4740

Did happen to me once on an island when I overslept. Boat tour guide came looking for his business. A city works a bit different than a close nit community where everybody has known everybody for all their life. Every stranger stands out. And business plenty. If he did not come for his business, he had the day off and missed income to provide for his family. And if it may cost many their business, gives a reason to cover up. But a cover up van cost business aswell. Certainly I will be skipping that town, untill the rapists are brought to justice.

​@@seren4740 yeah maybe for once learn what compassion is. he cared abt them because they were 2 young women who were just out of college and they were in a foreign country in the other side of a globe in a climate and territory they were unfamiliar with. maybe he thought they might be in trouble, so he checked and things escalated so he helped with the search that's it and also he probably talked to the ppl they were staying with cause maybe they knew each other before another thing you need to take into account is they were private clients, meaning they were not part of a big group they were individually going with the guide so he was more involved. its funny seeing ppl adct in this comments section like everyone's out to get them loll, you don't matter that much and its not that deep lmao

@@tjallingdalheuvel126 I agree, very cultural. In some cultures they would definitely look for you.

And walking around in circles for days on end. Army guys tell me that even getting up for a leak in the night you can get lost in 3 mins

I agree Patrick .

I guess on a dead or alive trip, I would drink thr river water and hope, if there was bacteria in it, I later could be cured,

I cannot be the only person who thinks F. Is stone cold.guilty, I happen to be less than 12 hours drive from Panama right now and would love to assemble a team.

@@kidgforce1 I am pretty sure you would not, diarrhea would be a death sentence.

Thank you, that really means a lot. I made the video after becoming interested in the case and finding other videos sorely lacking in research

locals always warns not to go to mountain, hiking etc, because they are mostly farmers who never think forest a picnic place, they think it is scary and weird that people will go there, if i listen to locals, i wont hike any mountain!

@stormy weather agree 1000%

@stormy weather I think the main goal was harvesting the organs. Cartel runs panama and they frequent the area, organ market is very big in those areas.

@stormy weather I've been fascinated with the case since discovering it a week ago. I will watch this case for the rest of my life and hope we get some answers for these young girls and their families

It's the guide F. and his gang who did it.

nobody fucking asked, provide a theory like patrick passon above you

Why do children do dump stuff like this, 2 young pretty girls thinking it’s a great idea to go to a forest in a foreign country

At the end they got caught Up in some Jungle harverster that sliced them. You never know

​@@rsahota5325 only a gazillion people do it all the time . How many go missing ? A couple every 10,000 ? That's ok odds . It's fun to explore and they natively thought they would be safer there with locals than in a big city .

Same. I have read everything about this case. We will probably never know sadly. Those poor girls.

Your case? Are you a private investigator?

@@missypuffin8985 Nope. I work in the legal field. Just referring to the personal interest I have in this particular case.

@@Zorpack1 Got it. Ive read about and seen docu's. It is a HUGE mystery for sure. I worked CID and MPI in the Army and have zero ideas on this one. The one thing i do differ with him about..IF it was Cartel etc..theyd not be interested in their silly backpacks and water bottle. Someone asked me once if i could speak to just one dead person who would it be. I said Maura Murray or JonBenet Ramsey

They were not very bright at all. First off they bought into the Girl Power movement which makes girls believe they can do anything they think guys have done! Second they believed their privileged female status they enjoyed in Western countries made them invincible and untouchable in true Patriarchal cultures. I am not a happy this happened to them but it highlights the utter foolishness of feminism.

Or maybe people just die?

Good that’s one less loose end

@@IndianTrollface NOOO!

Maybe he blackmailed the tour guide.

@@jw4277 just die??? This guy "just died" of drowning.... facedown in 4 inches of water. You must have missed that part?? This case has cover up written all over it.

That's what I tought too

Why would she want to get into the phone thought? You can dial the emergency number without unlocking the phone

@@jordanjay2622 Maybe she wanted to call someone in Boquette.

I was thinking the same thing I was wondering why the kidnapper would try the password over and over again after he doesn’t know what it is

Yes

100% You should read my posted comment and let me know what you think… this case is wild

@@bulletpop3912 Nothing wild about it. It's a pretty simple case for any professional detective. It's the guide F and his gang who did it.

@@phillipproussier3723 yes but those above them are the main........

Boquete is a very small community. So the guide knew who and where the girls were staying and went looking for them. I don't see nothing shady about it.

@@gmantov toro is bull..🐂🤙and bull is baal👹and the number of bones found..33..

Thanks, I don't cover true stories all the time but there will be more in future, try having a look at the true story playlist on my channel, this is the latest true story video I have made kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j62KdKuLr5fdnqc.html

If you believe that most KZfaqrs cover the same cases you are most definitely watching the wrong KZfaqrs. Time to up your game

@@Frenchblue8 Up it for me. Send me somewhere not covering the same 80 or so cases.

@@Frenchblue8 I have the same problem. Any suggestions that can maybe get my recommends to at least...well, recommend, something about subjects that interest me without having me watch the same shit over and over, just said by different people?

@@poutinedream5066 how convenient that they ignore the people asking for recommendations for a channel that doesn't recycle the same stories lol

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I think they were to weak to curry it further. I seen this with I should be alive episodes where the survivors just ditch their gears as they become too weak to curry it.

There is a photo of them somewhere else on beach….. the rest of the photos may be red herrings

Na verdade a mochila deve ter aparecido pois os pais das meninas estavam dando 30 mil dólares para quem desse pistas da onde estavam as meninas

@@Whiteyy191 What an uncalled-for unpleasant sentiment. I don't know who you think you are to talk to people that way, but I'm certainly not discussing my sincerely-held and well-founded suspicions with someone who thinks insulting and belittling are an argument. Get some help for yourself

That makes sense. It would be unlikely that F was the main abductor if he were up and about the next morning, poking around the girls flat while they were tied up back at his place. If he's involved, it's not as the principal antagonist.

@@willyupshaw Isn't that guide dead now? I have no real speculations, but it is interesting so many men who had contact with the girls died. And btw, what is up with that amount of relatively fresh leg flesh?

Considering the ground search didn’t happen until DAYS after his report, I think that would be weird. And such an elaborate cover up! To have random single calls made that didn’t connect over days, the pictures on the camera days later in the jungle, etc. if you’re covering it up, the gang would have tossed their phones in the jungle, hid their bodies somewhere else, taken their money, etc. They wouldn’t do it all. All the evidence points to a tragic accident of some kind

THIS IS A VALUABLE LEAD.

@@PG-wz7byI think it’s the taxi driver who was dead. I did read that the other 2 Dutch men they met earlier traveling were also killed. Not sure the details on this. I’m very interested in finding and listening to this podcast now.

and there was. He handed them his card the day before right after the girls denied his offer of doing the tour with him and staying overnight in his coffee farm in the jungle. It can be seen on 10:55 on the bed.

@@GlassOfWater87 😲

🙋 I'm with you on that 👍

have any explanation for the phone login fails? that seems to suggest someone ELSE was attempting to enter the phone, not the original owner.

@@macaylacayton2915 saw someone suggest one of the girls might have been trying to use the others phone. We obviously don’t know when exactly both girls died or how far apart from the other they died. It’s quite possible one died before the other and thus the other girl tried to get into the phone to contact someone for help. I’m not sure how close the two were but unless they were the closest of friends, it’s unlikely they’d know the others passwords

Source of the clean cut? Feet pop of when falling from a hight. At motorcycle accidents often a foot is laying 20 meters away.

Yes that sounds right. Why would it be a clean cut.

For me..Falling from a high?nope..impossible.. after this murder..driver taxi also dead..

Source for the clean cut? Every video on this subject has said it. Watch the video of the parents visiting the area, they are with the killer/killers. One of the guys literally says to the other, "Domingo don't say anything."

Its the guide.

Absolutely. I would say her friend was dead at that point, with her being held captive.

Thank you, a girl called scarlet R was a huge help. Her blog is very detailed

@@gertjanvandermeij4265 And if you had actually read the article, you would have noticed that 1) it's an idea without factual evidence behind it and 2) the professor herself says those other dimensions only interact with our own through gravity, which I would take to mean you can't just waltz in them. Never mind that there would be no reason to cover up such an astonishing discovery. Nor would there be any reason why the women could walk through but not their backpacks.

@@gertjanvandermeij4265 .......never takes long for the looney tunes to come out of the woodwork

@@gertjanvandermeij4265 how are the bones a cover up when they tested the DNA and it belonged to the girls..?

@@PeakedInterest You should do more videos like this, it's really entertaining.

Feliciano Gonzales either killed Kris or Lisanne or he´s covering up the crime for his deeply criminal son, Henry Elizar Gonzales and his gang, consisting off Jorge Murgas (dead), Jorge Rivera Miranda (dead), Osman Velezuales (dead) and Heriberto Gonzales (dead). Four of the five gang members are now dead - killed by Henry Elizar Gonzales, in my opinion. Plineo Montenegro, Edwin Aquirre and Vega Moises are possibly involved, but they all know what happend. I know what I would do, if it was my daughter.

I'd have a weapon too.

@@bryant7542 difficult to have a gun legally/lawfully in the 3rld world,especially for the tourists

@@bryant7542 A weapon is nothing when you have a gang up on you.

@@naraendrareddy273 There was no gang, just a creepy tour guide.

Holy shit, I'm sorry for your cousin

That's awful. So sorry 😞

Was he connected to other cases too? That definitely isn’t something somebody does on a whim. Im sorry that happened. :(

Brutal...

Great people, huh?

Thank you for this! Especially if the other girl had been injured, say if she had fallen and twisted her ankle, it makes sense that she got slower and fell further behind. I really do not believe there was anyone responsible for their deaths.

I've read tons of articles about this disapperance. I think this is a typical example of getting lost in the jungle - despite the weird discovery of the backpack. Survival experts say after getting lost people usually survive 1-2 weeks in the jungle before they succumb to the elements which fits into this scheme (emergency calls). The person without proper survival skills usually dies of hypothermia, dehydration or (fall) injury. And about the guide: a lot of men abuse women in many ways but only few of them could actually kill somebody... especially weird for a guide whose good reputation is everything to his business.

@@JG-kk1mr same..it really looks like they got lost and eventually were dehydrated confused anf at that stage you can become irrational and not behave in a „normal“ way…forget your I phone pin etc..

@@alexib2070 I’m confused how that would explain the picked clean bones the foot in the shoe the random shoe and the rolled up piece of skin

My thoughts exactly. You get tired and indeed people don’t necessarily walk at the same pace . Happens to me often to end up walking ahead at my pace and then having to wait for the others to catch-up.

Few infos bout that

Je ne veux pas douter de vos valeurs , mais entendre des cris dans une jungle Panaméricaine , loin de tout , sombre et dense , vous ne risquez certainement pas d’y jeter un coup d’œil !

People act like this only happen in less rich countries smh. There are predators everywhere, and a tourist is an easy target anywhere, people gotta understand that panama isn't that country because "it looks cool", it's poor because.... Well, you know why it is poor.

Absolutely true, the moment you walk alone to a side street, not to mention a jungle, you are done.

@@shinji5217 speaking of rich countries, as a Brit I remember one of the most disturbing cases being the disappearance of a British hostess in Japan in the 90s. I had largely forgotten about it until reading your comment.

Y si soy de latan de Uruguay y no haría ese sendero ni loca

IVE BEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD..STAYED IN HOSTELS AND IM ALIVE..NO OFFICIAL HOTELS AS YOU CLAIM..JUST BE AWARE AND COGNIZANT OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS AND DEALINGS

I've been telling people for years that there is foul play. It's not a miracle that their belongings are in pristine condition. It was deliberately left in the open by the killer when he/she/they found out that the police are using sniffer dogs which will eventually lead the investigators to their location so might as well get rid of it. Someone stalked those girls. There is a murderer in that area.

I don't think so. I think that by this time they are starting to get concerned that they're lost and are trying to find their way back. The one girl was still taking pictures because panic hadn't completely set in yet, so she's still thinking to take pics. The other girl looks stressed but not scared and still manages a smile in one of the photos and is looking at the camera without fear. At some point, one girl dies, and the other takes her phone and leaves it off. When her own phone dies she starts trying to use her friend's phone but doesn't know the pin.

It's already been confirmed for a long time that the photos taken in the jungle were a way for the girls to illuminate their path. They were, after all, in a deep and dark jungle, and injured. People not from that region have no idea just how dark and maze-like that kind of woods can be. They took pictures with flash in order to see where they were going. At one point, a picture was taken of the other girl's head apparently to check if she had a head injury or not. Then, some photo was deleted, maybe to save space on the phone (these were old phones back in the day) or for some other reason. It is highly unlikely that any foul play was involved. But since people don't like hearing boring, realistic explanations like injury + wild animals, they make up all kinds of stuff, like that there are serial killers hiding out in the woods, or that they were followed by somebody into the woods, or that even a "lost tribe" had eaten them or some similar racist conspiracy theory shit.

@@hermionestranger4964 That's what they want you to think.

@@potato-whiz That's what they want you to think.

sure bud

Me too. I get they probably wanted to preserve battery but my first strategy would be to go back the way I came, if I couldn't then I'd go to the closest peak (since reception will likely improve) and then call emergency services

He said that he saw them leaving the language school, then he saw them again walking on the pianista a few hours later, "but really from a distance", as he said...two days later he searched the trail and the emergency calls stopped...

@@cfa1806 How do you know that? Cuz its interesting...the girls were trying to make calls mostly close to specific hours, probably when they were left alone, maybe by someone who was still doing his business in the town. That would explain many things. He was trying to be very visible. A true psychopath. Poor girls, he was playing with them for days. And why he didnt take their phones? He knows this area by heart. He knows theres no signal too well. Again, poor girls.

It was mentioned in one of the documentaries about this case..he seemed to be omnipresent but this doesn't make him a murderer. The question why the emergency calls stopped on the day the search started seems crucial to me: Were they brought to another location that day? Were they able to escape in the night the strange photos were taken but didn't find a way out of the "jungle hell"?

The thing I found most suspicious is why he felt the need to enter their home, because he was worried, but then when he saw they were missing he decided to wait for 7 hours before contacting the police

wait is that true? where is the link please..i cant find that commment

@@juliannfloress3490 there’s one from 2022 in Dutch, you can Google it easy, is it legit tho…

is it actually real though? anyone can write a review..

Yeah i remember it

It’s crazy that this nasty raper just lives normal live and continues doing his nasty things

Wasn't the tour guide in their room after they went missing?!

That's such as good point about the key. I've followed this case from the start (because I was travelling in the same area of Panama at the time they went missing and I was the same age and saw the missing posters absolutely everywhere) but this is the first time I have ever considered that there's never been any mention of their key in the contents of their bag!

@@Freckles631 Wow that's kind of scary when you think about it . Can you please tell us what it was like when you were there ? Did the locals warn you about anything ? ... Did you see any unsavory characters or experience anything that creeped you out ?

Compass and knife also missing

@@joschimaximus1358 yes he used a key that was hidden outside. The girls' key was never recovered. What could he do in that small room that took 30 minutes?!!!

i mean we can nick-pick what they did wrong or right but honestly they did everything fine, in hindsight you can say everyone does mistakes everyday, they were in a group of two of them, better then one. obviously someone had bad intentions.

Such a shame what happened to the poor girls. I must say that it wasn’t a good idea for them to go on the hike even in the daytime. Especially just the 2 of them.

Yes...😥😥

It happens. A lady lost in Hawaii survived 2 weeks.

Probably because the girls were no longer along that trail, and the bones were scattered there deliberately later.

True, and also women should not assume that places are like Europe. Even in the US women are wise to have a man in remote places for added safety. Also, wearing shorts is associated with women looking for sex in many areas of the world. God bless these innocent Angels.

@@thematriarchy2075 This is not a sexist issue. They were lost and they might be alive had they taken more precautions. Look get off your woke trip. Panama is a more traditionalist place. Even the most innocent display of a woman's body ,in some places, can garner the wrong kind of attention. And all over the Earth you have predators that deserve taking precautions against. The girls needed a male chaperone or guide, who was recorded down and documented. Someone capable of protecting them while knowing the way to go for safety. I think they could have been the target of a predator who had taken notice of them earlier and waited until they were vulnerable.

The bones scattered like that to me represents that they where tampered with!!!

@@thematriarchy2075 People dress according to their location. You should watch the new video that claims a new tape section was found. They were the targets of a gang of young guys. It was a tangled web there. The taxi driver and others were methodically killed. This was a double murder and is being white-washed to protect the tourist industry there. More is coming out every week. The girls deserve justice and that the truth be known.

Exactly why did he jump to such conclusions so fast ... he clearly already knew what happened 😣

Exactly my first thought, why would he care so much

@@helen6k thank u !!!I don’t know why more people didn’t think that was weird.. oh wait they probably did but were told to keep quit because of it being bad for business if the tour guide is going around murdering people !!!🤷🏻‍♀️

Dinero

? I mean... I would. If they didn't pick up the phone or something I'd go looking for them if I found out they were missing. Personally.

Alternate theories is even better. And very weird that a third part was promised like two years ago and the creator went MIA and never posted it.

I feel the exact same way with this and many cases, but then we know they died and it's just a matter of the horrific hows that keep us from permanent nightmares about it.

And little Madeleine McKay😢

And her hair is inexplicably dry. It was raining when the photo was taken.

@@andrewjennings7306 How heavily though? I'd also like to know what kind of plant cover was in the forests where they were. Some tropical plants have unbelievably large leaves, and some of them are shaped in a way that basically funnel the water towards the trunk. I've been in the middle of forests during rains that are fairly heavy, and it's not particularly difficult to stay dry, especially if you find a tree with large leaves.

@@scottcantdance804 even so, the hair is 100% dry and CLEAN. As if its been washed. These were photos that were taken DAYS after they had been lost in the Forrest. Even with leaf cover thats 100% effective at keeping you 100% dry from rain (highly unlikely), why is her hair So Damn _Clean?_ Any girl knows, that just don't happen. The hair would have been a ball of oil and tangles by then. Also, this may be my dark side speaking (and I'd like to ignore this thought) but _In Regards To The Hair Photo:_ 1. It was taken from behind her. 2. It was taken from _over her._ As in, someone was above her with the camera facing down. 3. Put those 2 things together. Someone took a photo of this girl from *behind her* and either while standing or kneeling over her, or (please no) laying on top of her in some way. Also, the part about the hair being clean and dry. Doesnt seem coincidental _when added in with other similar meticulous/tidy "coincidences"._ 1. Clean hair/neat hair. 2. Neatly folded clothes. 3. All objects in perfect condition. These could be coincidences. But, personally, I don't believe in silly superstitions like "coincidences". As For the question: _Why did the girls keep going North?_ There's 2 possibilities. 1. They couldn't, like the video states, because someone was following them. 2. But my gut instinct? Let's think. Why would 2 girls keep going North? They were told to, purposefully misled at some point in their ill fated trip, maybe given a bad, even sinister intentioned, piece of advice if they were "ever to find themselves lost". _But,_ you may be asking, _who would give this advice that the girls would actually trust enough to listen to?_ And to that, I say this: *a tour-guide.* All these, as one might call them "coincidences": Coincidence 1: The tour guide giving so much of a fuck about two newly-met clients that he took it upon himself to _visit their residence and planned place of work_ when they were only ONE HOUR LATE to their appointment seems a little excessive. The time (30mins to be exact) he spent alone -searching for/hiding any incriminating evidence- in the last place they slept "safely" seems...excessively strange. Especially when you take into account alot of killers like to insert themselves into the investigation and/or media coverage and search of their victims; Making themselves part of search & rescue, doing TV interviews, calling in with new "tips" or "newly recalled memories", showing up at memorials and vigils, introducing themselves as friends despite actual friends not recognizing them, etc.) It would seem almost "suspicious". You know, if it weren't such an obvious coincidence. Coincidence 2.) Highly rated, -mostly- positively reviewed 100% officially board certified Panama tour-guide involved in the disappearance/planned brutal murder of 2 of his female clients? _white female clients?_ what do you think THAT would do to the Panamanian tour industry? This fact coupled with the officially stated cause of death is probably just coincidence though. Coincidence 3.) Suspicioisly well-informed-on-his-clients-sleeping arrangements-and-volunteer-work-plans tour guide has all positive reviews EXCEPT for the *one tour he did with a lone (meaning no men present) female client* is also the _same_ tour guide to be paired up with *2 missing lone female clients.* -circumstancial evidence.- Mere coincidence, Dear Watson. Idk. My gut instinct is deffinitley telling me: Accident drowning/death by mishap. What about yours?

@@andrewjennings7306 How do you know it was raining?

Looked like a wig to me.

Its good practice, they really are used for kidnaping a lot

I’m terrified of taking taxis too!

I’ve had two terrifying taxi encounters, Montreal and Mexico. Never again.

I worked for an airline traveled a lot the pilots warned you wherever I went never get in a taxi cab there’s other ways to get around

Get in one, just never alone and if you have no choice ask to see his license first. Take a photo and send it to a friend along with your GPS coordinates

LIKELY, yes.

That's what I believe. I traveled myself to central and south America and saw first hand how sketchy the police are there. Like you can pay them nothing to keep a murder quiet. They work with the gangs themselves. It's terrifying. If it came out they were murdered, their town would severely suffer from money, their country too and they weren't willing to risk that.

Theyre defending their friend, that fucked up. "What? stupid idiot. now we have to lie to everyone. Make them believe they ran in to the forrest, and disappeared. And, if they are making us look for them, take their stuff and parts of their corpses, and throw it all over the forrest!".

Happens alot in southeast asia

@@gertjanvandermeij4265 ….what the fuck

Ppl fall n drowm all the time.

Whether it was an accident or murder, either way, those girls must have been TERRIFIED. And the shocking thing is that we will NEVER 100% know what happened to them. Only they know the answer to that and they aren't around to tell us x

Me too. No goodbye video? Nothing that even comes close to a "goodbye i will probably die, i love you"? No recording, just some useless night photos? This is 100% murder IMO.

Watch Dark Rose's psychic reading on YT and see what you think. Makes sense to me.

@@implosionwombat2243 watch Dark Rose's psychci reading on yt, makes sense to me.

All things add up to that,someone knew their schedule.

@Jim Marbaz i think this was more so just that person expressing that there SHOULD be another investigation opened, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to think.

@@Elena-bk4fs nah

The Panama police seem unconcerned and seem to have buried it more.

Good callout. I keep forgetting that the cab driver was killed

Definitely a possibility.

That's a good theory. What are the chances the cab driver would die so soon after the girls bodies were found...

Oh my gosh! I think you're right!!!

I'm sorry, did I miss something here? The cab driver was murdered?

Thank you, that's kind of you to say

Than you haven't looked hard enough.

@@justincredible. he may not have looked hard enough, but at least he didnt like his own comment 💀

I agree. I have never seen any updates and for some reason saw this video tonight. I had always wondered about it. Now I will always check ALL the reviews on any tour or even places I plan on staying.

@@bananaturtle97 innocent question: how did you know he liked his own comment ?

In European media statements like yours are getting more and more ostracised, because people fear to be "politically incorrect" for calling other countries "dangerous". Thanks for telling the truth, mate!

Thank you for sharing and I'm so sorry that you have to live in terror. Be safe.

I think that for all Latin Americans this hits pretty hard, the fact that this happened close to the south border of my country really scares the heck outta me, I really feel like Latin America is on a downward spiral, violence has certainly really taken over all of our countries more than ever, pretending that our countries are not dangerous is foolish. If you're going to travel to this area you need to make sure you're careful and travel with a group of friends at all times, and that everyone has working phones with signal at all times, if I feel unsafe in my own country than you as a tourist should too.

racism towards whites is rampant but not spoken much about, thanks for acknowledging it

Europeans, do not go to Latin America. You will be sitting ducks for the evil predators...

same here

Sadly Panama is too corrupt and won’t do anything.

And he is the only one who could used a computer to delete that photo as his house is near

And he is the only one who could used a computer to delete that photo as his house is near

@animton شيطان الجحيم (EO2021 lol what? Anyone could use a computer to do that, but the question is why? And then return the camera to the backpack? If they were trying to erase evidence of themselves, then just destroy the camera, why go thru the hassle of having to connect it to a PC??

@@billblaski9523 F is the one who knows. Who got the reward money? F ? Why delete a photo, maybe it was of him, his house, something incriminating. He knows way more. The girls were murdered viciously for a reason. F knows

They had the same effect on me. Thanks for watching man, really appreciate it

Ok but why was this me this morning

Same here. Absolutely terrifying. Your work is really appreciated.

Thanks very much

Same. im so hooked and intrigued in this mystery. even at morning it scares me

Poor tour guide very implausible accusations. Why would the tour guide not have just waited until the next morning when a tour was booked with him? Why should he follow the two for hours in the jungle? How should a tour guide overpower two women? Why didn't the tour guide just take the cell phones? Who takes the trouble to spread bones for miles in the Jungle? I think this tour guide was/is a responsible person who understandably worries immediately when his 2 female tourists go missing.

@@bintagmina3755 The taxi driver could work as a spotter for sex traffickers

@@philobetto5106 Yeah sure... or in the jungle lives a colony of escaped sex offenders. Everything is possible, the imagination has no limits

​@@bintagmina3755 My opinion ... the hiking guide is guilty. maybe the taxi driver could have been an accomplice he was found dead months later face down in a mud puddle cause of death drowning

@@philobetto5106 Sorry for the affront. I just wonder why the cab driver let them get out in the first place. And why did he only catch up with them hours later? He could not have known whether and if so where the two are still. And also the tour guide. A tour with him was planned for the next day anyway. Why should he then wait for them on the hike? I'm pretty sure that if the two had fallen victim to a "classic" sex crime, their intact corpses would have been found pretty quickly. I don't think they would have gone to the trouble of elaborately moving the bodies deeper into the jungle. What's the deal with the cell phones in particular.

I don't think an iPhone could do that back in mid-2014.

GSM phones - if that's what they had - can all make emergency calls even when locked and even with no SIM card (assuming you have a signal and battery). My Nokia 3310 was capable of this in 1999.

It can call an emergency number. Question is whether that is 112 or 911. It might not matter if it connects. But it could still seem futile.

@@john1v6 nokia 3310. the greatest of all time.

@@john1v6well my Nokia 3310 could do lots of things my current one can’t. It was the best 😃

dont travel at all

At least not as a woman..

@@servety8472 lol you can travel just roll with a deep crew. and if youre alone stay on point. i used to travel in large packs but now im usually alone.

Definitely. They would keep it quiet so not to hamper tourism and they would investigate it quietly and deal with the suspected perpetrator/s quietly to protect tourism.

Ironically, since this has turned into such a well known mystery/true crime story with a lot of coverage, it was probably more harmful to them than two "simple" murder victims in a country where a lot of people get murdered by gang crime etc. anyway. They probably would've been long forgotten or unheard of by most. My takeaway is defo to never ever go to Panama. 🙃

@BlinkVideoEdits I'm guessing you're a local 😉

So much corruption

But they had no connection so how they are supposed to send an e-mail or a message? If they could, they would contact the police? I'm sure they were murdered also. Very unlikely if this was an accident.

@@danid.2601 Not fully sure on that, but dont unsuccessfully sent messages and emails save inside the device? They could have written a letter in some notebook app too.

If the culprit deleted an image, he might have deleted any other emails or stuff too from their phones.

if they didn't have any connection. how could they send an e mail to anyone

@@luarena Why didn't the girls take any photos with their cellphones? They only mention camera photos. If they were in trouble they could've shot a video clip to state their situation. Nothing makes sense. Why are the dog Blue, in none of the first photos? Why is there no more day time photos after that? But still no cellphone photos?

Yes.

A shame women can't travel alone. Rather, men should be taught to treat women with respect and decency. All around the world!

I do travel alone but always to safer countries. I also check everything beforehand and pay for hotels that are located in good areas. I don't go out at night and I pretty much look like a local because I don't check the map all the time and kind of walk as if I knew the place. I would never go to South America alone though.

@@MsDezsoe be careful, love. Things happen in the damndest places

@@MsDezsoe it could happen anywhere even in the safest place in the world there is always bad people in every corner of the world

​@@redbarberry Also, 20 yo girls from a wealthy nordic country should be taught by their absent parents not to travel alone to poor, dangerous countries.

everyone would confess to something even if you had nothing to do with it if you were aggressively interrogated

Are you actually saying that the suspects should have been tortured, just because he happened to be a male local and the victims happened to be White women? Are you an actual neo-nazi or something? Like do you possess the big dumb?

@@Bigjuicydumbdumb Torture never works. It's pure sadism. There are no "tactics". Any form of torture is a crime, no matter who does it. You people are just so heartless and thirsty for blood, that you want to pin a non-crime onto some guy you barely know because the accidental deaths of two girls in a foreign country isn't sensational enough for you. Jesus.

@@hermionestranger4964 delete yo comment my nigga

@@hermionestranger4964 Dehumanizing a person for a broad statement that caused your emotional-rant is alarming. Reflect and Consider Seeking professional help. Stay safe and have Good day/Night.

Yes, she´s fantastic.

Got a link please Mel?

Post the link

They were both attractive (the red head especially sexy) and this fact along makes me think foul play

@@flightofthebumblebee9529 get a life

And her hair strands doesn't look like as if they were being pulled down by gravity, one might expect if the person in the picture is in the upright position (sitting or standing). Note aso the perfect photo, crisp and not blurry and without any artifacts like fingers or water droplets from the rain. The photographer clearly tried to focuss on the hair only and was careful to not provide any context, like surroundings which could reveal the actual position and state of Kris' body (or the missing rest of it). Additionally, Kris' hair looks not only super clean but also very dry, considering the rainy weather on the rest of the night photos, which all of them have been taken in the early morning of April 8th according to metadata.

Also, if you go through the trouble to attach a camera to a computer, just to delete one photo, why put the camera back? Why did they need to go through the trouble to delete it, and leave the camera to be found. Why not just smash up, and get rid of the camera?

@@Lol78209 if the broken smashed camera was found later it might have suggested a foul play, so, maybe that's why the perpetrator(s) didn't.

@@pranat1894 call me crazy but i dont believe smashed up buried cameras get dug up and found all that often

I agree.....after 7 days in the forest, I'd expect to see more grime and oil in her hair, considering the elements they were in. The other thing that stood out was that her hair is very messy. She'd always had her hair tied back in a ponytail or a knot. This photo was one that chilled me the most. She doesn't look upright or conscious. Just strange.

I agree. The sound of the fire is soothing.🔥

Rob's Aberrations: best comment!!!!

Very strange comment you make. You are talking about what? Two people are missing 😕

It's a good vid yes, but no need to suck him off, especially on a topic like this

@@TheGrizly4 he’s on some god tier ASMR shit

Is the reason why we get tired is due to the fact that we too can go through this, imagine what grown ups do to babies during abortion. This is sad shameful and evil. Never goes by yourself in small groups take weapons with you.

If it was a local brown person, your sorry a$$ wouldn’t be crying over it so stfu

@@namenl2205 WTF are you talking about? Shut up and stop being racist…

Link to video ?

@@goyaame4517 it’s on Scarlet R channel.

I remember watching their parents walking the trail and the trail is very straight forward, they were saying it would be impossible to get lost unless you deliberately go off the trail and the parents were adamant that the girls would always be safe and wouldn't go off trail

I agree maybe they had an arguemement?

Makes you wonder will this case ever be solved.

Undoubtedly, the girls were killed by either the tour guide and taxi drivers or cartels. Don't even doubt it for a second. They were murdered plain and simple.

Thank you, I think it's important to try and represent things accurately so that's what I try to do

I agree Keep up the good work 👍

@@PeakedInterest I also like the format of the video, presenting all the facts first and then proceed to analysing them, accompanied by clues and photos. Brilliant stuff.

I concur with everything you wrote.

What do u think about those weird photos taken in the dark??

maybe he didn't find them right away