I feel That Tiffany blue dial Patek is the most overrated time piece of all time...

Missed a golden opportunity to say the JLC was Reverso-engineered.

Nautilus, Aquanaut, Daytona, all RM watches

That run through of Daytona dials used on other brands was a real eye opener and mighty hilarious.

I can’t for the life of me see the fascination with the Tiffany Patek.

basically every RM watch

IMHO, the only thing more difficult than getting a Nautilus is understanding its appeal. I'd wager that no one would want this oversized cufflink if it didn't carry the PP branding.

you're only supposed to reverse the reverso with a blank back while playing polo... 😅

All these really popular watches (Daytona, Nautilus etc.) are popular and hard to get because of one thing - the internet and specifically KZfaq with people with money showing them off.

Totally agree about the Nautilus

Is there more context about when JLC lost the technology to make the reverso? This is very interesting.

Entertaining as always 👍 . I completely agree with them all apart from the Calatrava, that watch can never be disappointing.

Royal oak and Offshore feel like the Lexus version of a Casio. Or like toy watches.

Awesome as usual… funny and informative… 💪🏼👍🏼

Loved this episode. Great content and funny as always.

Great research and a I am sure lot of time & effort goes into preparing these vlogs. I enjoy learning about the history and the interesting insights into the brands and models. Keep up the great work 🙏

Hi Andrew, great post. Been away for while so thanks for reminding me why your channel is a must! Some comments: Regards Stern purchase of Patek: as they were the dial makers, I assume Stern was owed some money (perhaps a lot) when PP was in trouble. Best way to avoid the liquidatior is to keep the watchmaker selling/in business. Your comment: “Flappy Ears!’ re the Nautilus. I was asked by an auction house expert why I was not bidding on a PP Nautilus & I answered: “The design is ugly 1970’s”. As he was a wonderfully Swiss person who understood humour & irony to the degree of a depth gauge…it was our last direct communication.

Love, love, love your channel..! I laughed our load to "IWC was obliged to make a watch for the Luftwaffe was like when your parents asked you as a kid to put your jacket on because it was cold out side...they werent really asking"

Great video! Fun and informative! I was missing watch content that doesn't mention or compare anything with Rolex!

I think you did such a great job of telling the stories of these watches that now none of them are disappointing 😅

I think anything designed by Genta is disappointing. I will never understand the hype behind the Royal Oak. The Nautilis/Aquanaut look plain and inexpensive.

Uuuuh, that episode 1 burn. Nice. :D

Tis true. If I had the money for a Daytona or a Nautilus, I wouldn’t touch them at retail, let alone the inflated prices. The Daytona is too small, and the Nautilus lacks any watch presence. A case of “The Emperor’s New Clothes” springs to mind.

Very enjoyable episode. Top picks are the Daytona and the nautilus. Agreed both are hyped up beyond sensibility. I’d also pick the tag Monaco. McQueen aside, it’s more useful for eating your dinner off.

I bought an 18ct Daytona on a leather strap straight from Geneva in 2008 for £7500 immediate delivery complete with box papers and a nice green Rolex plastic bag.

The IWC Pilots watch, and Pilots watches in general, never appealed to me for some reason. It wasn't until Jodie from JOMW pointed out the obvious that they ALL look the SAME : seen one, you've seen them all!!!

It’s the nautilus for me. If you told me that a watch with a non hacking movement and pin and collar links was the most desired thing, I’d laugh, but then you remember that describes the nautilus.

Must admit I had an attraction to the IWC... until I got one on my wrist. There's highly functional utility tool watch, and then there's absolutely boring. Well built. Check. Legible. Check. Zero percent interest in owning one. Check.

That date centering at 7:28 😮

Terrific video, research, and as ever a hugely enjoyable and amusing script. I’m with you on the nautilus. Underwhelming when you try one on. By contrast the AP Royal Oak, whilst sadly also now over hyped, was the original and a much bolder industrial design.

This is the most entertaining watch history lesson I’ve seen! The generic Paul Newman Daytona design is a riot!! 😂😂😂

Hang on a minute, doesn't Cartier lay claim to laying the blueprint for the modern wristwatch by designing the Santos in 1904? And then the Tank in 1917? The Calatrava has become the archetype for a very, very specific type of watch, but "the modern wrist watch" was born in the trenches of WWI, the Boer war and in aviation. Again: Patek was an also ran in that space.

I must be one of the few people on the planet who doesn't really like the Rolex Daytona! Don't get me wrong, I'd still wear one, but I prefer the Speedmaster, and LOADS of other chronographs more. Even some of the Breitling chronos are preferable (17532205, 17532000, 17532174).

All Rolex with fat bezel look about as exciting as a lawn mower.

Would also love to see a video that is the opposite of this. “The famous watches that don’t disappoint”

I don't know if the histories themselves are so disappointing. I think it's fantastic that these brands (and others, such as Breguet) were either pulled back from the brink of their various crises or created at all. In many ways, these brands are better today than they ever were, making unique, in-house movements, and raising the standards for finishing and design. That said, I feel like the big three (PP, VC, AP) plus Rolex and Omega are resting on their laurels a bit, and I don't find many of their designs interesting. I'd much rather be wearing a Lange, Glashutte, or Breguet. However, I get it - Gibson has to keep producing variants of the Les Paul guitar or their fans (buyers!) revolt, so the big three probably need to do the same! As long as they can sell every watch they make, it's good business.

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

The Tiffany colour reminds me of Council house doors in the 80s and the 3 wheel disabled car from the 80s

The tifanny blue oyster perpetual once used to sell for nearly 60K euro... not even a real tifanny branded watch...

Every time I look at my Airking I wonder why I bought it. All those 5s! I can't even remember what it is supposed to look like,( a land speed recorrd attempt dashboard?). I'd sell it but I don't want to feel the regret of the money as well. Astonished that they updated it with just crown guards. Disappointing.

Ouch! "The Daytona just wasn't good enough"

Andrew , you write great books, if anyone wants a hint try "vessel" as a beginner its a "banger"🤩 . A Lange und Sohne was a real magnet for me until I met 3 in the flesh in the boutique - nope was just not feeling it 😴 Across the street at JLC 😍

Oh my! Gosh darn! The whatcha ma hoosit?! It’s the only way to be!!!

Just like the Daytona, the Nautilus was also hard to sell. In the 80's and 90's they could be bought with a discount. I know. I had one back then.

Lots to chew on here. But, at 2:00 there's that infamous Patek "pocket' watch...at the end of a chain, that thing could double for a Medieval mace!

Tried on the daytona at the watch finder in Birmingham last week. It looks really cheap. It looked like a plasticky toy.

How can a design be a "catalogue part"?

came here for the humour 😅😅

Very very infotaining. Calatrava does nothing for me; Dont't get it at all. Great vid. Cheers!

Very good. Hilarious 😂

Chronographs, all of them, are for what? Has anyone ever actually used one as a serious measuring tool? Paul Newman used his to break rocks in the movie “Dotaina”, but that wasn’t real. If you gave me one. I’d be very surprised.

hahaha great video, harsh ahha

Unpopular opinion: Although I have several F91W I think nearly every other digital watch (at least from Casio) is better. Poor light, way too easy to mis-set the seconds, no timer,...

The Omega Seamaster Professional Diver 300M, especially the version with the blue dial and the bracelet. It looks like a Submariner homage designed (and named) by a 13 year old boy.

Not only does the Nautilus feel like a "wet noodle" they still use pin/sleeves in a 30,000 dollar list price,(100,000 or so pre owned) watch In the year 2023! Never mind JLC, I thought the whole industry had "forgot" how to make pin sleeves on purpose.

Am I the only one who immediately notices the badly centered date on any Nautilus?

Bro you're so funny 😂

Anything labeled Hublot.....btw, I'd like to see what kind of truck Ferrari could make!😅

Hey! You leave episode 1 out of this!

damp noodle!!! 🤣😂

Closeout Clive always brings it.

Pure genius

Pickup truck? Ferrari: "Hold my chianti."

Jlc adding a 2nd watch to the reverso turned a function (sporty protection) into a pointless flex. Real heads buy the blank back 'polo' version.

All a watch needs to do to disappoint me is not being a Seiko 😅 (Or being one, but also a turtle 🤮)

I've just came up with a good name for original KZfaq show. "Fart of Fashion"

No "LOL" for the "it's really plain/plane" gag on the IWC pilot watch? Disappointing...

I have had three Nautilus (maybe the plural should be Nautili) in the 1990s. Starting with the 3800/1JA bi-metal. I paid 3,000 pounds to a guy in the Portobello Rd London market who was a jeweller. I opened the case and found the movement 335SC to be very plain and similar to a Federic Piquet for JLC. The dial was gold and was rather nice. In 1995 I acquired a new 3711 from a dealer in Hatton Garden with boxes and papers. That I believe had a 315SC movement and in 2000 and paid 5000 pounds for it. I obtained a gold Nautilus in February 2000 with a Diamond bezel that Patek put on with an Extract from Archives from PP themselves. I forgot how much I paid for it! I also acquired an Aquanaut - what a POS that was! The movement in the AP Royal Oak is much better. Disappointment watches; Some IWCs with ETA Valjoux movement and maybe the same could be said for Panerai that were not COSCs. There have some others I can't remember off the top of my head. I have exchanged my Nautilii and looking at the asking prices of them, I wish I had not!

Today I'm wearing my mystical casio mrg, F**K all the rest,lol

At some point like the Nautilus it becomes a class statement without substance. Ugly but, you say can’t so because the snobs will laugh at you.

Your yellow logo is difficult to read. T)

Way too much proximity effect!

Any Rolex?

Phird

Hublot

Royal Oak > Nautilus... by a country mile.

$6 million for a Nautilus is absolutely bonkers 🤪

What a sick mind

I have always felt that Patek watches are boring. In their design. Way too conservative. It’s outrageous how the 5711 with the Tiffany blue dial is now going for around $2.8 million! All because of that young (foolish) young Chinese guy buying the first one in Hong Kong for $6 million! Insane. They originally went for $57,000! Hype. The sellers love it. Of course. To then brag there are only 170 of them made. I personally love Panerai watches. Always have. Love the Due. Not as thick as the older models but still nice. Better to wear if you wear it with a dress shirt.

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Wow, talking like that about gerald genta…..

I love Speedmasters and not only the true "moonwatches", they are great and near perfect, but 50m (or sometimes100m) rating makes them useless in everyday life. Well not exactly useless, but you need to be careful not to make them wet. Now sure... I understand that every self-respecting men has a collection of watches and they wear at least Submariner to the beach (or G-Shock)... but if you not so self-respecting or maybe not a men.... and you had stupid idea of having just one watch... and it happened to be Speedmaster then you will be struggling forever when on holiday. Sure it is great going to office, or sitting at home, or driving somewhere in the car, or sitting anywhere indoor protected from the elements it's fine, but if you ever decide to go on holidays then you will have slight issue - should you leave it in hotel room, car glove box, maybe in the sock, in the shoe, which is then hidden in your backpack under the towel on the beach, should you ask you girlfriend to then sit on the towel as well when you go for a swim and only go to swim after you come back?! Maybe you shouldn't take Speedmaster on holidays at all?! All those issues is something that luxury watch owner, especially tool/sports watch like Speedmaster should not worry about. And trust me - it is very disappointing to get your watch wet... at least Omega warranty doesn't make big deal out of it. Anyway - for watch as iconic as Speedmaster you want to wear it everyday and everywhere, but sadly on earth the water resistance matters and Speedmaster does not have it. Real shame.

or Lamborghini making an SUV, oh wait...

Sounds bitter

Pasha > Daytona

ha! ha! ha! I can hear the r***x fan boys crying from here... 🤣😂🤣

These companies should be punished as hard as Bud light was for their blatant discrimination pretty much saying that if you are not some second rate singer you can’t buy a watch at their store

I don't even know who Paul Newman is and I don't give a fk.

Weird title. You don't really say what is "disappointing" about the Reverso other than that reversing it is a let down for you - sorry but that's a pretty lame complaint and it sounded like an afterthought. And I suspect you are alone in thinking this. the fact that it reverses at all is the exciting thing. You say nothing disappointing about the Calatrava at all that I could find - it is clearly a classic (and which I would argue is (or can be depending on the model) the perfect round gold wrist watch). I'm with you on the Nautilus and the Daytona - I'm mystified why they have such cachet - very disappointing watches in person and conceptually uninteresting. As for the IWC being boring, that was the bloody point - it was meant to be entirely functional. next you will be criticising water for being wet.

So, Andrew, still smarting from that time you tried to buy a Nautilus huh?

I hate the Patek Nautilus, it’s ugly af. Pateks other creations are far more attractive

Phirst

👍👍👍

Patek is my grail brand but the Nautilus and Aquanaut are just ugly timepieces, don't see the point. Wouldn't buy if I had unlimited cash.

Royal Oaks have 50m water resitance and the crews are just for show. These are not sturdy or robust, not even compared to a nautilus. And learn to pronounce Jaeger-LeCoultre or stick to the acronym.

Unnecessarily negative….How about you tell us what you like and why….why so sarcastic?

Again, always so negative… 👎🏽

The videos are OK but you need to polish up your personal appearance. It's off-putting to have to sit through a video where the presented has assumed the countenance of one who lives in a landfill. You videos were better when they were just voice and watch. I'm not trolling you. The grubby look just isn't appropriate for one who wants to be taken seriously. It might appeal to a few, but a professional should put their best foot forward, hygiene wise.

Let's be real, NASA isn't good enough for the Daytona.

From Moonswatch (very temporarily) to PP Nautilus the "I've got it you can't have it" flex has made a lot of scalpers/dealers a lot of $$$£££€€€.