Andy Goldstein shouldn't be considered someone with a clue about football.

Goldstein is a typical mouthy southern United fan. He knows bugger-all about anything.

Goldstein isn't worth wasting a breath arguing against

As a Man City fan i admit Klopp has made the PL much better. The competition between Pep and Klopp has raised the level of winning to a new level. 85 points would win the league previously. Now its a min of 90 to win the league thats the standards he set with Pep.

Man United "fan" tries to play down Liverpool manager. Shock 🙄

If Jurgen says on Sunday I’m going to Man Utd there would be Street party’s for weeks and that clown Goldstein would be first there how anybody can take him seriously is beyond belief he needs sacking

So Le Tissier, Zola, Gerrard and Kane aren’t premier league legends because they never won the premiership?! Pure nonsensical bullshit

Took Fergie 7 years to win the league and 15 to win the Champions League with UTD...Klopp won it all in 6 years

So Kenny won 1 is a legend? Klopp won 1 isn't? Sounds like someone is bitter. And I am not a Liverpool supporter. He created some of the most exciting and fun to watch football at Liverpool the league has seen.

Only an incredible legendary manager can score 92,97 and 99 points in the premier league. Because getting to these point totals all depend on YOU winning games that YOU are in control of.. Winning league titles half depends on OTHER teams dropping points in games which you got NOTHING to do with. Klopp Scored more points than Ferguson's BEST league winning points totals 3 times. Here are the top 20 points tallies in Premier League history: 20 - Chelsea 09/10 - 86 points(+71) 19 - Chelsea 14/15 - 87 points(+41) 18 - Arsenal 01/02 - 87 points(+43) 17 - Manchester United 07/08 - 87 points(+58) 16 - Manchester United 12/13 - 89 points(+43) = 14 - Manchester United 06/07 + 11/12 - 89 points (+56) 13 - Manchester City 11/12 - 89 points(+64) 12 - Manchester United 08/09 - 90 points(+44) 11 - Arsenal 03/04 - 90 points(+47) 10 - Chelsea 05/06 - 91 points(+50) 9 - Manchester United 99/00 - 91 points(+52) 8 - Liverpool 21/22 - 92 points(+68) 7 - Chelsea 16/17 - 93 points(+52) 6 - Manchester City - 93 points(+73) 5 - Chelsea 04/05 - 95 points(+57) 4 - Liverpool 18/19 - 97 points(+67) 3 - Manchester City 18/19 - 98 points(+72) 2 - Liverpool 19/20 - 99 points(+52) 1 - Manchester City 17/18 - 100 points(+79)

7-0 makes him a legend you fool😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pellegrini Ranieri and Conte won the league after Ferguson left how did Andy not know

Not a Liverpool fan, so not being bias. He took over a Liverpool team, that needed a complete overhaul, while also trying to get his style across. They had won no League Title in 30 odd years, so there was no winning mentality there, like Pep had when he went in at City. He had to nearly get every transfer spot on, as they couldn't afford to spend big on a player and it not working out. Example would be, Maguire, Antony and Pogba at Man United, Ndombele at my club, Chelsea recent signings etc. He got them to 3 Champions League Finals, Europa League Final, won FA Cup, League Cups, Champions League, Super Cup and World Club Cup. While giving Liverpool the one they craved the most, the Premier League title. He was the first manager ever, to have his team, play the maximum amount of games possible, with the 4 main Competition's. Was 2 games away, from an incredible Quadruple. No team will ever, lose out on a title, with 97 points, only 1 point off of City and only losing 1 game. The getting 92 points and again some how, losing the title by a point again. Going toe to toe, with a manager and endless money of City. Not to mention he had, Pochettinos Tottenham, Chelsea's Tuchel, Pep City, Jose Man United. If he was at City or Chelsea and had the spending power of them two, it would of been a famers League, nobody would be catching his teams. He would easily of won more than one Champions League at City to, which is a fact. When he got Liverpool to 3 finals, Pep has only been in 2 and won the same amount as Klopp in Champions League with City. Arteta has been at Arsenal for 5 years, spent over £600 Million, only has an FA Cup to show for it. So anybody questioning Klopp as a great and a legend, is clueless. This is Talksport, so no surprise with them really.

I get why people don’t consider Klopp a PL legend with only one PL trophy but Goldstein is so hard to listen to because his football knowledge is so poor and his logic ridiculously stupid

In klopps time. Man Utd,Chelsea,arsenal,spurs, west ham ,villa Have all spent more than klopp and what and how much have they won. Klopps a legend debate over

Wenger won 3 PL titles not 2 Andy.

Idk I hate Liverpool but Jurgen Klopp should be considered a legend. You can’t really tell the story of the premier league for the last 10 years without talking about jurgen klopp. With that said I couldn’t be happier he’s leaving!

What a surprise a biased man United fan who shouldn't be allowed to spew his bullshit on the radio thinks that about a Liverpool manager.

Hes built a legacy at anfield how can he not be considered a premier league legend hes a left a mark on the league Hes a legend in my book and i dont even support Liverpool A legend and a class act

Pep's better than fergie. And there is proof, he beat him twice in finals. Whats andy smoking

Why are pundits afraid to said it loud that Pep is better than Sir Alex

Won the Champions League quicker than Pep with City. Won every available trophy against a team with 115 charges. Achievements have been incredible to be honest.

Lmao Goldstein stirring it. Not even a Liverpool fan but Klopp is a legend he won everything you can win at Liverpool.

Andy will say anything these days.

THIS IS FURGIES Tally Total In the 1993-1994 season, Manchester United amassed 92 points. In the 1999-2000 season, they achieved an impressive 91 points. In the 2006-2007 season, they secured an astounding 89 points. In the 2007-2008 season, they reached an exceptional 87 points. In the 2008-2009 season, they garnered a remarkable 90 points. In the 2010-2011 season, they achieved a commendable 80 points. In the 2012-2013 season, they clinched the title with an outstanding 89 points. Therefore, Manchester United, under Sir Alex Ferguson, went above 90 points in the Premier League twice-in the 1993-1994 and 1999-2000 seasons.

Klopp made Liverpool a feared and respected club that everyone took notice of, especially if their own club, domestic or European, was to play against them. He shaped them into an attacking powerhouse that garnered attention every time, anywhere in the world. I am not a Liverpool supporter but I will certainly regard him as a legend.

1 league title in 9 years is actually the lowest percentage of any title winning manager

You can't base your argument Goldstein about the amount of trophies. Klopp is an inspirational leader which transformed the club. Very few people have achieved this.

Southerners who support united are proper melts

Jurgen Klopp. Is. A. Legend. As a United fan, just the fact that we're happy to see him leave Liverpool exactly defines his legendary status. Legendary status does not equal only accolades. When you think Liverpool, you will think Shankly, Gerard, Dalglish, Klopp etc for the same and/or different reasons. Klopp's name will live long in the memory of Liverpool fans, City fans, United fans and them Prem in general... That is legend.

Klopp & Ranieri are Premier league legends. Winning the PL is not an easy thing. Klop reached the Champions league final 3 times & one Europa final how can he not be a legend.🤷‍♂️

who cares he's a Liverpool legend and adored by Liverpool fans

1 PL tile in 9 years. Pep about to win 4 on the spin Jurgen Klopps watch.

saying the 19/20 season has an asterisk is crazy, by the time we went into lockdown Liverpool were 1 or 2 games away from being champions, sounds bitter

He is right tho, 1 premier league and 1 champions league in his tenure at Liverpool is Shocking, overshadowed by his PERFORMANCE NOT TROPHIES, so he’s not wrong

As a Man United fan it's people like Goldstein that embarrass us. Seriously his football knowledge is so piss poor. I think Klopp should be regarded as a Premier League legend. He won it all at Liverpool & also I think he's a bloody good character the kinda person that you'd love to have a beer with

The turnaround he has overseen at Liverpool is quite an achievement in itself. We were languishing in mid table as after thoughts, played Champions League once in 5 years before he came in. He is most certainly a legend at Liverpool and in my opinion that's all that matters.

Honestly I've never took goldstein seriously ever since he absolutely ruined soccer am,still in bewilderment how he got this gig,stick to snooker mate,Darren Bent meanwhile,love listening to him,absolute gentleman, and more importantly,knows what he talking about

"Are they a pl legend" is the sort of debate rival fans have in primary school. No-one cares

I feel like if United go another 10 years without winning the league and are the same and a manager comes along and does what klopp done for for Liverpool at United and brings that feeling back about that old United Andy would say that managers a legend.

8 trophies. That’s legendary status. As a West Ham fan i keep being told that we should be immortalising David Moyes for winning a tin pot trophy. So 8 major ones for Liverpool, you gotta give him that. If it weren’t for Man City cheating for 15 yrs he would’ve been the 2nd greatest of all time.

1 league title new set of teeth and laser surgery to his eyes he’s definitely a leg end 😂

I hate Klopp, but he deserves more credit, if Pep didn't exist Liverpool would have dominated the league, but Pep does exist and thank god Liverpool didn't.

‘Fergie took over a team which was mid table at Man United’ The exact thing Klopp took over at Liverpool ffs!

It’s honestly draining listening to “fans” of football sometimes because people are constantly so biased towards their teams rather than just talking common sense. Why is it so difficult for fans to acknowledge other teams players/managers if they’re good? I don’t get it.

I’m not surprised because majority M.united fans not talking about Klopp positive 🤣🤣🤣

I wouldn’t take this stuff seriously. Producers are creating these debates to get calls in and clicks on KZfaq. Goldsteins just been given the tough side of the debate. Anyone in their right mind knows Klopp’s one of the great premier league managers.

The Klopp love-in Goldstein refers to has been going on for years. They've just turbocharged it since he announced he's leaving. That poem made me sick in my mouth

club world cup is not a competitive cup, the champions league winners almost ALWAYS win that as well.

If Arsene Wenger is a legend for rivalling Sir Alex Ferguson, then how isn't Klopp one for rivalling Guardiola? Wenger's and Klopp's only mistake was working at the same time as absolute titans.

as man utd fan i have huge respect of mr klopp

You lost me at Andy Goldstein.

All this nonsense about 1 Premier League. Based on this theory the great Luck Chadwick was more of a legend than Gianfranco Zola. See how this works. Football is about how it makes you feel as a supporter not counting trophies.

If Klopp had Pep's available spend at man city in the past however many years, I reckon he'd have won more leagues and more champions leagues

this guy saying he is not; is the best proof that he is!

Utd fans still salty they lost 7-0 to the worse Liverpool squad ever , Liverpool fans sang Ole at the wheel and enjoyed the 7 hag era no Utd fan can make the same claim about Klopp 🤣🤣

Here we go again, AG acting as devils advocate and coming across as clueless.

They live off the Fergie days, it's all they have left

Fergie left after the 12-13 season, Conte and Pellegrini's wins were not against him

Pep is better than fergie.

He does not need to be premier league. He is our own LEGEND.

It has taken PGMOL, refs & VAR to deny him the title this season. He's THE legend...Danke Herr Jurgen,.. You'll Never Walk Alone 💪🏾‼️

And this bloke predicted Man United would win the premiership so he knows what he is talking about

Dont let this distract you from the fact that some Man United fans think they will do well next season if they miss out on europe 😂😂😂😂

The premier league is better now than it was when Fergie was at Man U. Debate over.

Points only show the gulf in the top and bottom. It’s less competitive which is why there are these huge points total. Record high points total and less points to guarantee safety.

1 Premier league title in 9 years definitely makes you a premier league legend. Hes up there wi the other 1 pl title winners Ranieri Manchini Conte Pellegrini Jokers!!!

I understand this is for click and likes but how TalkSport allowed Andy to be so disrespectful to Klopp on the eve on his last game is disgraceful.

Sir alex Ferguson, arsene Wenger and mourinho those 3 are premier league legends, the rest are their own club legends

People who compare Klopp just on the basis of trophies won, miss the point.. Some do it just for the clicks comments

Goldstein more like poopstein... bugger off . Not a liverpool fan but what hes done at Liverpool is awesome. Hell never walk alone

Legend should not be defined by how many titles you win and even as a United fan Klopp is a legend of the league. But if you rate greatest managers in the english football because football didnt start in the PL era only then Klopp would likely just make top 10. But he has done more for the city of Liverpool on and off the pitch and that is also very important

I really like klopp. He’s a Liverpool legend, not a prem legend. Trophies speak volumes. He’s still great tho but not in the same category as Ferguson for sure.

Golstein behaving like a child 🙄

lol the fact that people are even mentioning his name in conversations just shows the legacy he's left.

Andy Goldstein shouldn't be labelled a radio pundit!

How many liverpool 2nd seasons had more points than fergie's utd winning seasons?

If football was all about stats, it’s time to take away all the trophies available.

Man Utd fan doesn’t rate Klopp. Surprise lol

In the last 7 years, Klopp is the only manager to really challenge City.. its like Jimmy White never winning a world title, but to not call him a legend would be ridiculous

United fans like Goldstein cannot get it right. Pep can't be a better manager and bigger legend than Ferguson because City are cheaters. But when it comes to Klopp's time in the premier league, United fans never mention the 115.

Premier League Titles: Under Wenger’s guidance, Arsenal won the Premier League title three times. These victories occurred in the following seasons: 1997-1998: Arsenal secured the title with 78 points. 2001-2002: The “Invincibles” team went unbeaten throughout the season and amassed an impressive 90 points. 2003-2004: Again, the “Invincibles” achieved an extraordinary feat, remaining undefeated and accumulating 90 points. Points Accumulation: While Wenger’s teams consistently finished in the top four, they did not surpass the 90-point mark in other seasons.

Him talking over the the singing of you never walk alone doesn't show respect. If Klopp did what he achieved with united, different Andy...

As a Liverpool fan, yes there is an argument to have. however Liverpool did not fabricate finances...So how much difference did the extra finances make for Man City. Remember 2 league titles by 1 point each ?

But he's given them their first premier league title and look at where Liverpool were before he come in

If Klopp had won the same in 8 years at Man United, Andy would want a statue built for him outside Old Trafford 🤦‍♂️ And when did Conte or Pellegrini ever compete against Fergie and win? He retired in 2013 and they won it in 2014 and 2015 Muppet 🤦‍♂️

I'm a Liverpool fan and Klopp is not a Premier League Legend. He was a great manager but I still put other managers far ahead of him by miles. Pep, Fergie for example.

In the title race 4 times, 4 European finals and a handful of other trophies in 8 seasons. Not too shabby.

Klopp aint a PL Great.. he is a Liverpool great. Darren Bent sums up everything that is wrong with football keeps using stats. The fact of the matter is Klopp has won 1 title in 9 seasons, same number as Ranieri and Daglish etc…Liverpool fans can talk about coming 2nd with 97 points, it aint a trophy, no one cares about who is runner up. And everyone in the media seems to forget the Great Jurgen Klopp finished 5th last season 😂 He is a one season wonder PL wise

Why does this guy hate Kloop no one called him a premier league legend all that matters is that Liverpool fans think he's great salty United fan.

Of course hes a legend his liverpool side with salah mane firmino played some of the best football the prems ever seen. When he took over liverpool they were in the mud and now the regularly baring last season compete for the league.

What you have to ask is who did Man C hate playing? Who could play them off the park? Not a trophy but we were the only team who could spank them. If the 115 charges are proven then we should have had more titles. As should Arsenal, Utd etc.

I kaida want to agree with this statement good manager yes Liverpool legend if they say so but common sir Alex, wenger, mourinho, guardian sure

Not pl legend but club legend. The fact that ranieri did it with small club with a fraction of klopp budget make klopp pl win looks lame.

First of all pelegrini and conte didn’t win the league in the fergie era this Goldstein guy is a straight up liar

Without Klopp, Man city would be going for 7 titles in a row! Just let that sink in...

Andy Goldstein has the personality of a Hedgehog.

He is right in terms of trophies but even I admire what klopp done and for all the other things apart from the 1 title which I’m very happy they not won more he is a legend as much as I don’t wanna say it

Will be known as one of the best managers in the premier league era

Wonder if the biased media will do the same and fall at his feet, once Pep leaves?