Yeah but your spurs mate, Forrest West Ham palace all would also say the same…

As a United fan, I wouldn’t be overly gassed about one PL in a decade from one manager.

@@FountainOfYoot u wouldn’t be gassed? That would be one of the greatest achievements the prem has ever seen, United lifting the prem. that and the Leicester season

​@@FountainOfYoot in the City era, that's pretty good

Haha​@@FountainOfYoot

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@@Paul-bodge I hope even the EFL refuse to take you lot and you drop out the English league completely!

haven't chelsea won more?

- LiVARpool caught Hacking - LiVARpool not called Cheats - City found Not Guilty in Court - City are called Cheats?🤣

City have turned oil into a treble.. mad init .. how dare they invest and play well with money they cant spend.. flaming cheats

Exactly!! Goldstein is a muppet. Klopp wins at clubs with low net spend. Hes a massive overachiever

@@docholiday-lm4vf since when "net spend" is a measure of success? 🤨 Klopp spent over 1 billion on some top players. He's a top manager but he ain't one of the best ever

- If City/Pep win all but CL - Its a Failure - If Lpool/Klopp win only Carabao Cup - Still a Great Achievement?🤣

@@drep9028 I truly believe, we can agree that money is crucial in these days when we talk about professional football, right? Based on that, you have to consider the difference between transfer income & transfer expenses, which is net spend. It’s not the only figure which is important to measure success, but a defining one. During his time at Dortmund, he had no money and at Liverpool, he finished a great deal to sell Coutinho for appr. 150Mio€ , to invest that money very smart into the squad. So, again, Klopp is a genius! I really doubt If Pep can do the same thing with the same budget and under the same circumstances!

@@marcushanemann2510 "crucial these days?" So it was never crucial before?!!! think Rio Ferdinand went to ManU for a record transfer fee or because he liked the ManU jersey?!? 😑 As for the Couthinho going for waaay more than he was worth, highway robbery...that's a massive advantage to Klopp!! He invested the money in 2 record transfers! If Pep could have sold Leroy Sane for $150 mil....you would have said Pep had the benefit of a Leroy Sane overpriced sale. 🙄

Everyone does

How did goldie get such a cushty job on talksport??

Cus he talks facts 💯

Let's talk about Man United then.

​@@tonyschiavone950 Rory Jennings is a more entertaining version of Andy Goldstein.

​@@tonyschiavone950failed at soccer am.

Me too! Why does everyone have to be so negative all the time?!

Look who he was up against 😂 a multi billion ££ squad

You are clueless how many champions league finals has man city been in with pep. Sssssshhhhhhhh

He’s actually won EVERYTHING!! And did it being 9th highest spenders in the league Who else had ever done that?

How many European finals have Man City been in with pep

@@alexzlotowski5685 So Liverpool squad is cheap? 🤨 It's like a weight class. Even though Liverpool is not as heavy as spender as City, they are still heavyweight. Therefore they lost to a better heavyweight fighter. Simple

pep a great manager i agree ..but what klopp has done with the budget he had ..how many times did pool lose the league by 1 point twice i think and if i remenber correctly city won the league on goal difference one year ..if you looked at both benches city literally another team ..pool ..bunch of academy players and injured players ... financially we couldnt compete ,,but yet we were a threat...klopps a legend ..dont let me start with the amount of champions league finals

Great argument mate but Guardiola has 5 leagues in 7, he’s going for 6 in 8 as it stands but long way to go yet.

klopp has won matches and finals with Kids and reserves !! when has pep done that ??

@@tomben6180 Fergie had far more titles than Wenger - does that mean Fergie was better ?? he only had more money than Wenger ever had !!

Ferguson has the longevity. Klopp won same amount of trophies in his tenure at Liverpool between 2016/17-2023/24 as Ferguson did from 1986/87-1993/94

@@sinan_3384and Utd have won as many trophies as liveroool in klopp time so

@@willtallis5275why lie? lol United have won 2 league cup and a Europa since Klopp joined Liverpool have won a league title, champions league, FA cup, 2 league cups, a CWC and UEFA Super cup

Klopp deserves bad things, he forced those experimental injections on his players and slated fans who were hesitant, saying they were no better than drink drivers. Those injections are poison and folk are struggling in many cases after taking them...thanks to influencers like Klopp!

Meanwhile Fergie turned academy players to 5,6,7,8,11,13 PL winners medals.

@@BrianBoru5523😂😂😂😂what?????? 😂😂😂

@@FountainOfYootcorrect over 25 years. Mind you it took Alex Ferguson 8 years to win his first league title (took Klopp 4), 14 years to win his first CL (took Klopp 3) Fergie only got to his 2nd champions league final after 21 years in charge of United. Klopp has been to 3 CL finals in 6 campaigns since he’s joined Liverpool. Also before his first PL title, Ferguson had 12th, 13th, 11th and 6th place finishes. It took him 7 seasons before he even challenged for a league title. Klopp had Liverpool on 97 points (1 point off City for the league) and CL winners in his 3rd full season. Liverpool’s lowest finish in Klopp’s 8 full seasons is 5th. Fact of the matter is since Chelsea won the league in 16/17 (Guardiola and Klopp’s first full seasons), Liverpool are the only club to come remotely close to challenging City for the title. Finishing 2nd twice by 1 point on 97 and 92 points. And also the only club in that time to have actually won it as well which was on 99 points (2nd highest points total ever in English top flight)

@@sinan_3384 You live under a rock I take it?

They didn't broke most of those rules during pep's tenure stop excuses

Klopp did spend over 1 billion on top talent. Is it even Pep's fault that other clubs over price their transfer targets? For all you know Liverpool "pretend to be poor" to get lower quotes 🙄

​@@denisako6493but possibly broke rules to build what it is today. Notice Newcastle are having issues because they know they cannot now do what city did.

@@denisako6493 correct, but they laid all the groundwork before that. New training complex, new stadium, vastly inflated sponsorships. Local projects to appease the council (sportswashing). They did all this before Pep. Most of the 115 charges are that era. Now they can’t be displaced because they’ve already burrowed their way under. Like a tick.

115 chargers ,state owned, sport washing shadow

His League win wasn't a fluke, though...he finished 2nd the season before with 97 points(any other season, they would be Champions),won the Champions league trophy that year. And missed out by a single point the season after as well,again reaching the Champions league final,which he achieved again 2 seasons later. That's actually reaching more Champions League finals in 4 years alone than Manchester City, Blackburn, Leicester & Arsenal have managed in their ENTIRE HISTORIES COMBINED! Let that sink in 😂😂😂

@@dman9152computer hacking, corrupt shirt sponsor brick throwing that’s how we remember Liverpool

@@samkhan5661so what City won the fa cup when it was the biggest clubs b trophy in the world 56 years before Liverpool a European cup before Liverpool and were pulling crowds of 84,000 when Liverpool could only manage 35,000 let that sink in.

@@bobofett3966 little Abu Dhabi fc if they didnt win the lottery would be back in league one wearing kappa kits with Richard Dunne as the manager. Soon to be stripped of all titles and relegated to the vanarama League.

- If Pep won 1 PL,1 CL in 9yrs - Peps no PL Legend,Failure - Klopp wins 1 PL,1 CL in 9yrs - Klopp is PL Legend,Great Achievement?😂

@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings they’ve both been incredible successes! Without Pep, Klopp would’ve won so much more during his time at Liverpool! He’s 100% a club legend, that’s true success. Yes trophies are a major part of success but it’s not the only measurement of success

That's nothing to do with Pep and City - that's just how top-level football works. Winning is what matters, and that's all.

@@NigelLobe not to this level. People expect to win everything thanks to Pep. Even clubs like West Ham want their manager out that literally win a European trophy last season and is 8th in the league, because they expect better, what is better for them? Bitter fans driven by hate and jealousy will latch on to any loss and brand it failure. It’s stupid

@@bg7393They really haven’t both been incredible successes… Guardiola has… Klopp’s has had success but will ultimately not be remembered in the same way.

Beating United doesn’t make klopp good

@@willtallis5275 that's why I left that bit tell last 👍

And that’s with a dominant city team to compete against! He’s over achieved

​@@DeeezBHow do you overachieve with 1 PL Title in over 7 years??

What? They won pretty much the same, if not more? Jurgen Flopp 😂

Bang average compared to the likes of Bob Paisley, do you even know the history of your club?

LMAO yeah and he had 4 finals against chelsea and a champions league against tottenham...Now do the finals he lost, especially in europe.

Even Raggy, how many of those 115 charges have been proven and how many are during Pep’s tenure anyway?

@@tomben6180 City's 115 charges haven't been proven, 'cos it would be egg on their face for the Premier League. Trophies galore, whilst breaking their own rules...makes the Premier League a joke as well as 115 City!

@@garywallace5602 No, they’ve not been proven because the hearing hasn’t taken place yet. He’s a rehash of the same case that happened at CAS, that City were cleared of. The only reason they’ve brought it forward is to appease United and Liverpool and try reputation damage against City… the whole thing is corrupt.

​@@tomben6180 only a matter of time

Why do you think he left the real top quality guys who are the best always leave while winning something klopp isn’t doing

Lol Liverpool aren't a club that just challenge for top 6. They are the most successful club in England. But I agree klopp has done a great job

@@Masterful100 Yeah liverpool are kinda like Blockbuster - the most successful video rental company worldwide. Or maybe Nokia, if u like, since they still operate - once the most successful company in the industry.

@@abody499 they been to 3 champions league finals in the past 9 years, and challenged for the prem almost every year the past 6. They been one of the best teams in Europe consistently during klopp's era

@Masterful100 that's what I said: "he's done exceptionally well to take what is really just a club that challenges for the top 6 and turn them into occasional title contenders and cup finalists"

@@abody499 but they aren't 'a club that occasionally challenges for the top 6' think they have the second most league titles in England and the most UCL wins of any English club, what are you on about lol

And now he’s quitting becuase he knows he can’t compete with arsenal or city so easier to quit always an excuse of city this and city that klopp isn’t that good it’s that simple

@@willtallis5275 “He knows he can’t compete with Arsenal or City.” One of the worst takes I’ve ever heard on the comment sections.

You can even add to the this with season's Liverpool finished second they still won major silverware as well. 97 point season won a champions league FFS, the 92 points season they won a FA Cup/ League Cup double.

@michaelblack1494 Your comment shows how little you know.

@@Photosoflife name his 3 biggest achievements at Liverpool then

nonsense

@@michaelblack1494 Easy. 1-League title in 19-20 on 99 points. 2-Champions League title in 18-19. 3. Nearly pulling off the Quadruple in 21-22 winning the League Cup, FA Cup, losing the Champions League final to Real Madrid, and losing the league title by a single point to Pep’s City while winning 92 points.

@@Photosoflife if you have to put a nearly at the start it’s not an achievement…

Number 2 in the Premier league ? Not in the world

⁠@@blazeblaze-up4odHow’s he going to cope? Top of the league and in the FA Cup final again, after winning 5 out of 7 league titles, 2 different Trebles with City and the treble with Barca… already has 3 UCL’s and he’s not even 55 yet.

Just gonna ignore 2000-2013 then?

Chelsea. Won the league, champions league and FA cup twice since he joined

@@kutlwanoramela7636 yes they've matched in trophies, but in all other metrics, seasons in champions league, league positions, finals, wins etc you'd have to say Liverpool have had a far more successful period.

? Bob Paisley won 6 league titles, 3 European Cups, 3 league cups, 1 UEFA Cup, and 1 UEFA super cup. He also won 6 charity shields ( if you want to count the charity shield as a trophy. Hats off to him for winning all that in 9 years.

@@BadAppleBlues He never won the fa cup as manager,Klopp is the first manager to win the top 3 trophies.

Exactly hence why he’s a 9 and not a 10. Just so you know 9 is less than 10

he spent 900m

Nope, he’d only be getting criticized more when he fails to win something!! More money only = more criticism

this idea that Klopp didnt spend money is hilarious.....hes spent nearly 1 billion quid pal.

@@eljay6714 facts!! Liverpool fanboys like to pretend that Klopp never spent money just to save any type of legacy he has because compared to Pep it’s not even worth debating!

@@factzoverfeelings7503 100% agree. It’s Pep and it isn’t close at all. That’s what Liverpool do though. Perpetual victims.

There were like they were last season as how come Brendan Rodger’s challenged straight away with spending less money then

Yeah in a time where any team could win the league the league was much harder back then

It’s the most important domestic trophy!! Are u content with winning only the carabao cup this season??

@@factzoverfeelings7503 we weren’t expected to win anything this season, most people didn’t have us finishing top 4. We’ve over achieved this season with the position we’re in and we’ve still a chance of twinning the league

@@jmc4226 from bragging about winning the “quad” to now “we weren’t expected” 😆

@@factzoverfeelings7503part of city more then any other club

​@@factzoverfeelings7503 what have you won? 😂😂😂

And now they’re coming crashing down again 😂😂😂

What did he achieve?

From doubters into believers and now back to doubters.

Could of done what purple nose done and walk away from a club he left to rot hahaha Utd are Liverpool of the 1990’s and early 2000’s hahahaha live massively in the past we have gone on to win 2 of the biggest trophies there is to win and not over 10 years ago 😂😂

He’s not a foreman

He's won 7 games out of 21 against United, in which time United have been at their worst in half a century and Liverpool their best. A win is only worth 3 points whether its 1-0 or 10 😂

I noticed that as well. Andy the nose Fraudstien is a joke..

He said timber plays left back, does he, but you're right, him and gabby are the 2 biggest idiots on the radio 😂😂😂

Teams are figuring them out is all.

Have you seen that stat about arteta’s games to wins in each month of the year? Apparently his win rate for games in September (when pressure is off) is like 95%, but his win rate for the month of April is apparently like 20% or below…. Quite damning

So the fact Pep himself has called Jurgen Klopp one of the best and a world class manager for 7 years straight and even pointed out the fact that he has never faced a tougher team competitior in his career then he has against Klopp and Liverpool is completely dimissed and missed by you? I will be blunt here I trust Guardiolas statement of calling Klopp a world class manager then some random youtube comment.

@@alexischristou3266what like he just lied about his players wanting to come off hahahah pep would say that Liverpool are th on,y team to actually compete in years so not hard to say that is it

@jch6722 You do realize Liverpool twice lost the League title to City by one single point? And in those two seasons they had 97 and 92 points yet still didn’t win the League? That’s mind boggling not to win the league winning that many points. Context is very important.

Wenger won the league 3 times during united's most dominant period, who have spent more than any other club in the league. What's klopps excuse?

@@bluemoon1716 Wenger had 23 years, Klopp had 9. Wenger didn't win the Champions League, Klopp did. Man United didn't cheat, City did. Everybody knows that and you as a City fan can moan about it all you want. You sell less shirts than Tottenham yet you have more lucrative sponsorships from the Middle East. City fans problem is that nobody respects City's achievements and that will never change. That's why you are here commenting because you are rattled.

@bluemoon1716 Arsenal first won the League title under Wenger in 97-98 with 78 points. They won it again in 01-02 on 87 points. And then won it a 3rd time in 03-04 during their “invincible” season with 90 points. Liverpool won the league under Klopp in 19-20 with 99 points, lost the 18-19 title to City by a single point with 97 points, and once again lost the 21-22 league title race to City by a single point with 92 points. Klopp and Liverpool won more points than every single Wenger title winning team, including Arsenal’s “invincible” side. Context is very important. Klopp and Liverpool just happened to go up against an all time great City machine.

@@Photosoflife a City machine that still wasn't the biggest spenders. Since pep came to England he's been outspent by both united and Chelsea. Klopp's 1 title isn't enough considering he broke multiple world transfer records and could only achieve success after he did so. No one remembers the team who came 2nd

Who’s charged are before peps reign

City’s financial muscle… you do know City have only spent slightly more than Liverpool since Guardiola has been there and United, Chelsea and Arsenal have all spent more???

Well that would not happen as the charges are before pep you clown and klopp record will never look amazing if you actually look at it properly he’s had 3 good seasons in 9 years otherwise the rest of the time inconsistent

@@willtallis5275 Wrong. "Manchester City have been charged with breaking financial fair play rules around 100 times over a nine-year period, which starts in 2009 and goes on until 2018. "

Lfc fans can't handle it 😂😂

No titles for 11 years and no Champions league in 3 of the last 6 years 😂😂😂😂

“Big bucks” City are 4th biggest spenders since Pep has been there and only marginally above Liverpool’s spend.

3 less European cups

13 premier league titles tho and most of your history isn’t from klopp so makes it irrelevant to what you said

@@willtallis5275 6 champions leagues mate

Haven’t United finished above Liverpool an equal amount of times as they haven’t, since Klopp been there? I’m not a United fan btw and think they’re a joke but the above shows how overrated Klopp is.

@@tomben6180 yes but they can't admit that they also say he took over a dead team even tho it challenged for the league with brendan Rodger before he came in they sY he hasn't spent anywhere near the rest but he's spent 928 million it's all terrible excuses becuase they can't fave reality and facts he just isn't as good as they first thought they've only 3 actual decent seaosns under him the rest where the same as before he came in