Klopp is a Liverpool legend, not a PL one. Important distinction.

Salah was not a Chelsea reject when Klopp took over. He was an excellent winger at Roma.

Why do people even argue wtih Goldstein we all know hes a right old troll of a United fanboi😂

Goldstein is like listing to a little biased child with no real football knowledge or intelligence

Ferguson would win nothing in the Pep era. 75 point title wouldnt cut it.

The term “legend” is thrown around for too easily nowadays.

Klopp has won every trophy put in front of him bar 1, ended the PL title drought and produced a Liverpool side that has been such a joy to watch for the best part of a decade and is a good man, I’d call him a legend though I don’t demand anyone else agree with me. I love him and that’s good enough for me

The goalpost moving I see rival fans doing is insane 😂

Liverpool fans love their runners up trophies. 97 point trophy, almost won the quad trophy. Pushed city trophy.

Goldstein saying klopp won it once but lost it 8 times ok but fergie won it 13 times and lost it 14 times by that logic then 🤡

Goldstein needs to show more respect and I’m an Everton fan

Sadio mane wasn’t playing for a relegation team lol we had just qualified for the Europe and finished above Liverpool when they brought him 😂😂

Liverpool has won more trophies the past few years than Banter Utd has the past 10

For once. I'm with Goldstein

How many premier league title did Liverpool had before klopp. Klopp is Liverpool legend

Chelsea have won more trophies in 9 years than Liverpool. Klopp has underperformed

I’m a United fan; i think Klopp is an outstanding manager and United would have snapped him up easily if we had the chance. He’s not won as much as some of the media are trying to make out, so you have to own that, but i dont see a lot of point in trying to diminish his status in the PL as a great. Top top manager, playing excellent football and would be adored by any fan base in the PL

Andy goldstein is so so bias against Liverpool or klopp , its unbelievable that he's still in a job on talksport with how much he's bias against them 😂

Hope the next liverpool manager gets 97,99,92 pts over 8 full seasons and to 3 champions league finals, winning every trophy you can win and if they can beat utd 5.0,7.0 4.0 along the way that would be great. Not state owned, no sports washing and dont have 115 changes either.

Mate he won everything in 8 years im a man united fan 👀 please. What have we done had more managers that’s about it 😄

Klopp can be a legend for Liverpool football club and their fans but no chance for the whole EPL and worldwide football fans.

I’m not even a Liverpool fan and listening to Goldstein reduce every argument to a “yes or no” without anyone being able to provide context is the laziest, most pathetic attempt at journalism. Utter garbage.

He didn't fail 8 times. Because he didn't compete for the league 8 times as the squad wasn't capable of a title challenge.

What makes me laugh is what’s everyone else’s club won during Klopps time here? The only club to have done better are currently being investigated. If it weren’t for Klopps Liverpool the league would have been a mockery. For what Klopp has been up against, how he’s managed that, I do think Klopp is a legend and there’s not one fan who wouldn’t want him as there manager including Goldstein.

Goldstein, even the greatest Man Utd team wouldn't have won more than 1 title against the 115 charges team.. You will always belittle anything Liverpool, as we would belittle anything United.. Its like asking if say Jimmy White was a snooker legend, with NO world titles.. of course he is, its not always about what you have won.. Liverpool have been the only team to consistently get close to City, but it had been like San Marino taking on USA in a war.. no realistic chance given the tools and weapons!! Remember, you lot under 4 or 5 Managers have won NO leagues NIL, ZERO, NADA, ZILCH!!

A legend isnt just based on trophies. Perosnality and feelings at the club can add to that aswell. Benitez is an anfield legend...

10:37 “enough for where we’re at”… after spending 880m in 8 seasons? 1 title?

Goldstein seems to have forgotten 115 Charges FC. What a doughnut!

Peps that good last two managers before him also won the league with city......... seems like they have an unfair advantage, and whoever is the coach, pick up a league title for them wonder what it could be ......

Liverpool can only employ managers with four-letter names, Arsenal can only employ managers whose name starts the same as Arsenal, and Man United can only employ managers whose name describe their finishing place in the league. 😁

Its up to fans of clubs to decide who are their legends not rival fans

Thanks Darren ❤

The debate ended with Darren bent mentioned fergies 2 cl's in 25 years. Point being they both are world.class managers and one prem title is ok considering the went close more than once.

No way near enough I am 50 years old in a few weeks so I remember the 80s as a young boy and we were winning everything it was wonderful. Klopp has done ok but no way has been great.

How this andy is employed is beyond me! He is the most arrogant, abnoxious bloke I've heard on this show! I honestly can't stand him!! He will slate every club, manager and player who isn't part of man united! I don't support Liverpool either btw! He is pathetic!

Andy is delusional most of the time. I don't know he does it deliberately

The only few times I have to agree with Andy. Legend isn't a title to be thrown around easily. Klopp is a great manager, probably a liverpool legend depending on how bad they're before he arrived

If it wasn't coming from a Man Utd supporter, then this opinion would be taken more seriously....10 years from now they'll still be reminiscing about Ferguson era as the last real success they've had...😂(THIS IS ALL JUST BANTER & WIND UPS, DON'T TAKE IT TOO SERIOUSLY.👍🤝)

Andy just keep eth at the wheel , and awalys remember liverpool have more champions leagues than utd,city, arsenal, Chelsea put together

1 league title in the Pep era from a team that has never won the premier league is success, especially when you consider the Liverpool squad Klopp took over was about as good as Spurs or Newcastle’s current squad today. Andy is being provocative although it I’m glad he admits Fergie didn’t achieve enough in Europe.

It is good enough, when they're not the dominant team. They've done well. And they should get a few more added on if city get charged.

Does this mean that some of the top pl players are not legends because they've not won silverware . Or is everything nowadays compared to pep .

Andy seems to be forgetting. Sven was already lined up to replace Fergie in ‘01

2 UCLs in 25 years at Man Utd, people seem to forget English clubs were banned from European football 1985-1990 so it is not 25 years. Post 1990, all English clubs struggled in European competition for years due to the ban. Fergie also won a Cup Winners' Cup which used to be a good trophy back in the 80/90s but defunct now.

Out of all Liverpool managers where does he sit in that list then tell me he’s a legend

Why can no one answer yes or no questions?! Its like a world of politicians for christ sake!

They won the carling cup and fa cup and had a open bus tour

Klopp beat pep to a league title even though klopp had far fewer resources and an unbelievably worse starting squad when he arrived

Respect a man in one breath, speculate what is medically wrong with him the next.

If the Liverpool fans love him then he is a legend.

Andy is 100% right. If United won 1 league title in 10 years in supposedly one of the clubs best eras all you clowns would be laughing at us

if it wasn't for Klopp City would be going for 8th straight title in the English Pharmers League

115 charges that’s all I can say, without this , he would of won 3 titles 🏆🏆🏆

Klopp has achieved everything with Liverpool and now decided the time is right to go.... And forget about Klopp returning to Liverpool, not happening....

Personally i think he is a legend for what he has brought to the Premier League and club. Legends dont have to be purely defined as who has won the most. Djimi Traore is a UCL winner and part of a legendary comeback. But in no stretch of the imagination is he a legend compared to the list of greats that never won it. People can banter and define their own meaning of Legend. But he has won everything there is to win. He took a team that were just big in name, fanbase and history but were nowhere near competitive. He won the league with 7 games spare. 82 points before we went into lockdown (City ended the season with 81!). 2nd place isnt the goal but it is far from failure too. He turned good players into world class. Kept Liverpool competitive for the most part. We are now a club that is in the conversation for titles. Its just unfortunate he came against the greatest coach to do it and greatest squad and owners in Man City. Its like competing agains Usain Bolt in his prime!

Darren, fyi……A legend is someone who leaves behind an unforgettable impression on others. They touch lives, they're remembered, they're cherished. There are all sorts of legends in this world - famous or not. Becoming one means finding your particular role, your calling, following it, and touching others around you.

Neutral fan here , I think the point Andy is missing is that Klopp won the first pl in decades thats what makes him a legend imo It's been a decade since united won the pl and i don't see them winning soon He would also call whoever wins united their first PL when it's been 2+ decades a legend . Even if they were to only coach for a season

It's not about Klopp being mentally tired as he said.. its more about him tired of losing to Pep.. me know a that

As a Barcelona fan you can say he is Liverpool legend but not EPL legend.

Goldstein sums up why UTD fans are amongst the most hated

He's as much a legend as Ranieri and Conte are. How much of a legend *they* are is for you to decide...

To all Liverpool fans klopp is a legend Andy what's ya faces is a bitter man utd fan

what premier league manager has won every trophy

Klopp is a Liverpool legend but banging on about him being one of the best Premier League managers just isn't backed up by his trophies. Mourinho and Wenger won more titles, Mancini, Conte, and Pellegrini have the same number of Premier League titles as him.

Goldstain would have Klopp at united in a heartbeat, the man chats nothing but shite at the best of times that is dialed up to 11 when he's talking about Liverpool.

Health diagnostic lmao he’s not a ford fiesta 😂😂😂😂

Klopp isn't in the top 5 premier league managers no chance. Liverpool might want to call him a club legend I'm fine with that

Why even argue with someone whos opinion is already set in stone 😂 aint that deep

The next nine years won’t bring Man U the title that’s for sure.

6:22 “then the year later 93 points then we won the quadruple”

Liverpool failed to get back on that perch that fergie knocked em off, they got one foot back on then slipped.

It’s all hypothetical rubbish on this show. Is schmeichel better than ederson? Is Ferguson better than pep, is so and so a legend etc.. Goldstein of course backs every Man Utd person and they go round in circles 🙄

If United are embarrassing for spending a billion and not winning anything then spending 928 million for 1 titles also is embarrassing and not good enough

Is andy forgetting when fergie was there . Man u had so much more money than anyone else . Its totally different now .

Goldstein continually making a 🤡 out of himself. Talking all over the fan then telling him he needs to be quiet when he speaks.

In his first 7 years 1986 - 1993 - what did fergie win? Lets count Did fergie build a team during that time that achieved 99 points and ran away with the league playing a superb brand of football. Klopps best side would smash any fergie team in his 27 years

Guess they will be saying Arteta is legend by winning FA cup.

As usual goldstein lacks any kind of context. Liverpool are the only team, bar arsenal that have come anywhere near pushing a state funded city team. To reach over 90 points and still not win the title is a true reflection of the power and finacial might of city. Utd have the greatest wage bill and yet look where they are, goldstein really needs to drop his anti liverpool agenda, and he will then gain more credibilty and respect.

I have to say through gritted teeth but Andy is spot on

Klopp will definitely go either Madrid or Barcelona if Madrid get Alonso after a year off

1 in 9 is better then 0 in 30 Andy their ya go klopps a legend

9 pieces of silverware in 8 and a half seasons, first 2 seasons was brendan rodgers players. andy is a hater, hes always said salah was a one season wonder and average.

1 CL and1 Prem in 9 years not good enough for a big club like liverpool, yet 2 micky mouse cups in 10 years for Utd ?

Andy never would never talking jibberish.

People claim he is PL league legend yet when you claim how...they talk about the champions league win 😂

Klopp isn't even the best manager in Liverpool right now... 😂 UTFT

Klopp takes a year off and then goes to Madrid, signs TAA and has finally gets to manage Jude

Goldie would bite his wife’s arm off to have klopp at United .. that says it all

Take for an example. David degea. We united fans see him as an great. Not a legend. He won premier league. Fa cup league cups and a European cup. But for a club like Liverpool and united thats not a LEGEND.

Andy makes me laugh so funny😂

Do not worry about what Andy thinks Liverpool fans, he thinks Emery is going to Man U, Count yourselves lucky that Gerrard is out of the way in the dessert and there is no chance of a 'stepping stone' back to Anfield.

Ask Darren who’s the bigger legend, Mou or Klopp

Goldstein is such a troll haha.

Klopp, would’ve been a huge legend of the premier league. If it wasn’t for 1 thing. MAN CITY. The very fact that they pushed man city to the very end in titles races, is an achievement. But at the end of the day, he fell short every time except 1.

You all watching succession? like mee? oh man

Theres only 1 andy Goldstein 😂🎉😂💯👏

Even Klopp's UCL was funny. Winning against that finished dead barca and bottling lords, Spurs. I would be ashamed of such trophy.

One league title in 36 years 😂😂😂

Kliop will be come 🇩🇪 head coach after

Fergie has openly said we should have won more in Europe. What is this argument about?