Andy Goode weighs in on the Mike Ford and Sam Burgess saga

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The Rugby Pod

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4 жыл бұрын

Goodey doesn't hold back on this week's pod as he discusses his experiences with current Leicester attack coach Mike Ford.
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@louisrussell9395
@louisrussell9395 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Burgess just basically said what everyone else wouldn’t have said and fronted up to the crap he dealt with he should be praised
@galinor7
@galinor7 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true.
@gregdrew4944
@gregdrew4944 3 жыл бұрын
Thing I thought is even though Sam Burgess is correct he had somewhere else to go where majority of other players don't!
@kev695
@kev695 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregdrew4944 which made it all the more important that he should confront those he had no reason to fear when others didn't have that luxury I think.
@handsolo1209
@handsolo1209 4 жыл бұрын
IMO Sam was a better RL player than Sonny Bill Williams and could have been a better Union player than him too, but was rushed in to the England set up and used as the whipping boy for the mistakes and shortcomings of others. Imagine if they had done the same thing to Jason Robinson a few years earlier.
@jonnybaynham1689
@jonnybaynham1689 4 жыл бұрын
@wildebest not many back rowers hit Billy Vunipola the way Sam Burgess did. Or hit the gain line at pace like Burgess did. Or get through the work load that Burgess did at 6. Or smash people backwards, even as he had to learn the differences in tackle technique Burgess was a physical beast and needed more time to bed into a proper position.
@galinor7
@galinor7 4 жыл бұрын
@wildebest he was.a superstar in Rugby. He won the NRL grand final, a major RUGBY final.
@calrugbyfan
@calrugbyfan 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't feel like Burgess earned his place at RWC 2015, he was definitely fast tracked but I dont believe he's the reason we went out at the group, 2019 would have just been a better goal for him ultimately, he'd have had about 5 years in the game and we could have seen him reach his real potential in union, unfortunately we'll never know how good he could have been it's so disappointing
@neilconnolly485
@neilconnolly485 3 жыл бұрын
@@galinor7 Only non Aussie to win the Clive Churchill medal for M O M in the Nrl grand final
@nikolaucznaum4312
@nikolaucznaum4312 3 жыл бұрын
@@calrugbyfan Yes we do know, RFU old boys club and the journos with their cauliflower arses saw to it, he would be hounded out of the game.
@Gary-n
@Gary-n 4 жыл бұрын
Found the Mike Ford emoji 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
@dbjmk8083
@dbjmk8083 4 жыл бұрын
Did Andy Goode really just pretend he's anything but the greatest player ever ?
@fleshen
@fleshen 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the Sam interview was very eye opening and I think he was truthful just like Andy is being here! I hope a few more come out!
@andrewtaylor5771
@andrewtaylor5771 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine what Sam would have achieved with England if he stuck around for the Jones era?
@willk1756
@willk1756 4 жыл бұрын
A 6"5, 18 stone blindside/number 8. The pace and athleticism of a centre, great offloading game and even a lineout option in time. Will never forget the "Good riddance" headline, appalling treatment.
@brendanryan8439
@brendanryan8439 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, Eddie coaches like a league team and has a league background being an Aussie. Sam would've been an absolute nightmare for any defence if they'd used him as a ball carrying 8. Over time he could've developed his skills around the ruck and set piece and gone on to be a legend of the game what a shame
@Shm00ly
@Shm00ly 3 жыл бұрын
@@willk1756 An EMBARRASSING chapter in English rugby in a fair hefty tome. The way some of the coaches and rugby journos have their hands in each others trousers should be a source of national shame. The old boys clubs working narratives faster than Dan Brown. Its a disgrace. Sam Burgess is an English megastar - but as with so many things in England the press and coaches can't stand players that outshine. No characters at any costs.
@connorlumb90
@connorlumb90 12 күн бұрын
Ye we while of won the cup
@KernowekTim
@KernowekTim 4 жыл бұрын
Fair play Andy. Straight from the shoulder, and everyone knows where they are with you, whether they like it or not. NOBODY knows where they stand with a liar. Respect to you man. Stay safe.
@tiekumark
@tiekumark 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Ford, George Ford and his brother disliked this video
@chrishampton2565
@chrishampton2565 4 жыл бұрын
And now Mrs Ford has weighed in. (It's up to 4 dislikes).
@Gary-n
@Gary-n 4 жыл бұрын
Carl Fearns too
@danedwadd62
@danedwadd62 4 жыл бұрын
Gary Nicholls what did Carl say
@clegsmegson2627
@clegsmegson2627 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to boo George Ford at Twickers. I now HATE HIM
@Gary-n
@Gary-n 4 жыл бұрын
@@danedwadd62 I'm not a grass! P.s. research why Fearns left Bath RFC
@grantevans8865
@grantevans8865 3 жыл бұрын
as a welshman Im so pleased that his transition was cocked up.....as a 18 stone 6ft 5 inch centre who could step and move at speed he would have become a world class RU player had he remained fit......great athlete and bloke
@ammanfordtv7410
@ammanfordtv7410 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Great league player and should have been given more time and support but from a Welsh point of view ha ha their problem. From a Union point of view would have loved to have seen him compete for Lions place etc etc
@johnnyutah999
@johnnyutah999 4 жыл бұрын
Goode is a straight up guy. Fair play on this! Sam Burgess is a legend!
@gholfin2124
@gholfin2124 4 жыл бұрын
Fair play Goodey, great honesty from you. Gary Gold should have pulled the rug from under Ford during that meeting it sounds like ford didn’t care and gold apologising for him, wtf!! No wonder burgess left in the manner he did and the press said that hooper wouldn’t allow Sam to say goodbye to the other players....as a Bath fan, the future doesn’t look great right now. Fair play to Sam for speaking up, what a loss to union he was
@edwardbeaumont1014
@edwardbeaumont1014 Жыл бұрын
Jeez how right were you mate. Bath are a shambles.
@Benboy1980
@Benboy1980 3 жыл бұрын
After the Burgess interview and hearing what Andy has to say....its pretty damning about Ford Senior. Thank goodness we have Eddie Jones
@jamesparker1
@jamesparker1 4 жыл бұрын
andy goode is a legend and my personal hero!
@devout666
@devout666 4 жыл бұрын
Remember seeing a Sky Sports News interview with Mike Ford at Toulon and he came across as a snake then. Rugby has become far too much like Football. All I hear on the pod is how much bloody money players are on.
@poiu77
@poiu77 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know why sam is made a scapegoat for the 2015 failure, England were beating wales when he went off, and he was covering gaps and making tackles, sam came in 2014-2015 season, not long enough to learn union, but still he should be made a scape goat, i think he played very well
@thomastimms88
@thomastimms88 7 ай бұрын
Typical Class issue
@poiu77
@poiu77 7 ай бұрын
@@thomastimms88 agreed
@FuriousBOIAngel
@FuriousBOIAngel 4 жыл бұрын
As a Welshmen i'e got no skin in this game, I was stood in the fan zone at Twickenham on that RWC night. It was obvious Burgess was a class above. The way Mike Ford treated him, and his son is disgraceful and their actions comments following the loss tell you everything about those men.
@galinor7
@galinor7 4 жыл бұрын
Taking Burgess off in that WRC game, helped us get passed them. A silly move really.
@strawberrykicker2
@strawberrykicker2 3 жыл бұрын
@@galinor7 World rally championship?
@paulbennett9272
@paulbennett9272 3 жыл бұрын
Any new content in the works?
@kenrehill8775
@kenrehill8775 4 жыл бұрын
Mass exit from Leicester, or Ford leaves after 1 season.
@schnozz87
@schnozz87 4 жыл бұрын
I'd put money on that
@julianwilcox399
@julianwilcox399 3 жыл бұрын
As a Bath fan, I can concur that Mike Ford is a liar
@andrewcavenagh2029
@andrewcavenagh2029 3 жыл бұрын
Give me Sam Burgess over the Fords any day.
@cliveuuking4602
@cliveuuking4602 3 жыл бұрын
But I can't understand what Burgess is saying.
@danedwadd62
@danedwadd62 3 жыл бұрын
Cliveuų King Ford is worse
@assess1973
@assess1973 4 жыл бұрын
Mike ford lied to my face. As an England coach I couldn’t be honest with him.
@grahamholliday9962
@grahamholliday9962 2 жыл бұрын
Andy speaks his mind and the debacle of Burgess getting parachuted in obvs caused ructions at Bath as well as at England. Has he ever talked on the pod about how he welched on his deal with Irish b4 he went to Wasps?
@kevinh1178
@kevinh1178 3 жыл бұрын
I heard Danny C had the same issues
@richardkenny7555
@richardkenny7555 3 жыл бұрын
Straight Shooter that Goodie. Jim for next James Bond.
@beatonthedonis
@beatonthedonis 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing good can happen from Andy Goode weighing in.
@RK-hx1jr
@RK-hx1jr 4 жыл бұрын
Robbie savage of rugby world /media
@elena16350
@elena16350 3 жыл бұрын
beatonthedonis47 . Truth can out, isn’t that good, Sam was a class player, you can see the difference with Eddie in charge, England are twice the side they were, Fords scheming would have had a bearing on that, or do we play it the dishonest English way, I know what way l prefer.
@gazismad631
@gazismad631 2 жыл бұрын
People forget England were ten points up against Wales and Roberts had a grand total of three metres gained when they took Burgess off. Who would you rather have running at you Ford or Burgess? It’s not up for debate . Burgess was a beast. Ford couldn’t tackle a fish supper!!
@Tanks518
@Tanks518 2 жыл бұрын
That is rugby Al over, with Andy’s experience with Mike Ford . Coaches haven’t got the bollox to be honest
@imnotavingthat6813
@imnotavingthat6813 2 жыл бұрын
Slammin Sam isnt a LIAR. glad he backed him up..
@garfieldbraithwaite8590
@garfieldbraithwaite8590 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch
@tonyx8750
@tonyx8750 3 жыл бұрын
Lions led by sheep (idiots). Sam was treated poorly and would have been a great asset to the team.
@garethwatkins6347
@garethwatkins6347 3 жыл бұрын
big sam's a legend!
@tombroomfield9166
@tombroomfield9166 3 жыл бұрын
Always knew Burgess got totally done over in Union, an absolute passionate, honest, hard working bloke in Rugby Leauge, totally respected in the NRL, something wasn't right. Glad the truth came out. Goodey and Big Jim are total lads!
@73North265
@73North265 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Broomfield Well this comment aged well
@sirhc8972
@sirhc8972 Жыл бұрын
It did actually. But you jumped the gun
@neilpieterse9614
@neilpieterse9614 4 жыл бұрын
What that saying again..... a jackel loose his hair but never his colour? Seems to me the ford guy has a yellow belly
@somerledislay9987
@somerledislay9987 3 жыл бұрын
He sounds like a baddy, Goodey
@andrewwright6893
@andrewwright6893 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Burges one of the best rugby players ever, incredible. George ford lightweight not good enough.
@timsbury100
@timsbury100 3 жыл бұрын
George Ford a lightweight? Watch the 2015 semi-final Bath v Leicester!
@bondus1008
@bondus1008 4 жыл бұрын
I smell a defamation case brewing......
@Shm00ly
@Shm00ly 4 жыл бұрын
No chance. If he took that to court Mike Ford would be humiliated. People would come out the woodwork and it would get messy. He’d have to be fairly confident he could prove the accusations false.
@no9scrum
@no9scrum 4 жыл бұрын
Red Roses101 also telling stories about a rugby coach doesn’t amount to a defamation case😂
@bondus1008
@bondus1008 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shm00ly I see your point
@73North265
@73North265 3 жыл бұрын
Well you may be right after all. If Burgess doesn’t successfully contest the recent allegations, his reputation is shattered.
@Tricky181
@Tricky181 3 жыл бұрын
Sam should have been a lion 🦁
@billbonnington7916
@billbonnington7916 3 жыл бұрын
Burgess is a great RL player, he was not a great RU player, just a physical specimen. The RFU made a big error of judgement in pushing him into the England set up, they tried to rush it through when they couldn’t even agree with Bath which position he should play. Burgess was never going to stay beyond the RWC window before going back to league, so the experiment was always destined to fail. Different skillset to the likes of Robinson, who’s running abilities we see once a generation if we are lucky.
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 3 жыл бұрын
bollocks, Bath settled him at 6, he was good enough t keep quiet a Lions centre in that Wales game. You know nothing, Burgess had signed a long contract, he didn't want to go back to Australia but the disgusting way he was treated forced his hand. Of course he has a different skillset, totally different position ffs!
@patrickchilds2987
@patrickchilds2987 3 жыл бұрын
ynotnilknarf39 You nailed it my friend ! Burgess is a fantastic player in either code. I agree he was treated badly by Bath and was almost set up to fail. I hated how the press focused on him after a poor England WC. Was he to blame...no. When all the autobiography’s come out and someone will eventually reveal who the real disrupters in that squad were. One thing I can tell you , it won’t be Sam Burgess
@thomastimms88
@thomastimms88 7 ай бұрын
Bath season ticket holder here. Burgess was class. Defensive wall at centres and fantastic organiser and leader.
@davidfrancis273
@davidfrancis273 4 жыл бұрын
It's all crap.
@casualsports90
@casualsports90 4 жыл бұрын
Is there anyone in rugby who Andy FOOD hasn't had a problem with? 🤔
@Shm00ly
@Shm00ly 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@forddriver8827
@forddriver8827 Жыл бұрын
Burgess is a self entitled substance abuser who cannot be honest with people close to him. The domestic violence allegations were not 'made up' and his legendary drug use and prescription pill use all add up to a very unstable person, capable of anything. He was givien a free pass by the Courts, the Police and the NRL. Another example of the love that men have for each other when sports are involved, one set of rules for them, another for the rest of us.
@thomastimms88
@thomastimms88 7 ай бұрын
Ad hominem
@cosifantutte1071
@cosifantutte1071 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Burgess should never have gone to the 2015 RWC 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@thomastimms88
@thomastimms88 7 ай бұрын
Bath fan here. Burgess was outstanding at Bath and absolutely should have gone to the WC. A defensive brickwall, which is exactly what you need at the highest level
@mattthompson4908
@mattthompson4908 3 жыл бұрын
Sam should have never played in that world cup
@hyllaf
@hyllaf 3 жыл бұрын
Andy, it's a shame that you opt for the mute button on your mike with Burgess allegations. The guy is a monster, but you're like the BBC keeping jimmy saville in a job. shame on you
@JONNYHOTROD
@JONNYHOTROD 3 жыл бұрын
Sam Burgess should never have gone to rugby union.......it’s a shit game.....leagues far more exciting!
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