Anna Lembke On The Neuroscience of Addiction: Our Dopamine Nation

Anna Lembke On The Neuroscience of Addiction: Our Dopamine Nation | Rich Roll Podcast

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Psychiatrist & Stanford professor Dr. Anna Lembke joins Rich to discuss the neuroscience of modern addiction, dopamine fasting, the opioid crisis & more. To read more about Dr. Lembke and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll623
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:39 - Primer for Today's Conversation
00:11:40 - Defining Addiction
00:16:47 - Anyone Can Form an Addiction
00:18:28 - There Doesn't Need to Be a Reason Behind Addiction
00:23:14 - Dr. Lembke's Dual Diagnosis Method
00:26:03 - The Neurochemistry of Addiction
00:29:19 - We Live in a World Saturated with Dopamine
00:32:24 - Drug of Choice
00:38:25 - Voicing Change
00:39:25 - Pain - Pleasure Paradox
00:40:25 - Dr. Lembke's Patients are Her Heroes
00:42:19 - Rechanneling an Addict's Energy to Fill Their Need
00:43:14 - Rich's Recovery
00:45:12 - The Value of AA
00:50:53 - What's the Brain Chemistry of a Withdrawal
00:57:34 - The Truth and Vulnerability of Sharing Addiction Stories
01:01:05 - We're All Vulnerable to the Fundamental Problem of Addiction
01:05:25 - Addiction Among Highly Educated Professionals
01:08:56 - Disclosing Personal Struggles as a Psychatrist
01:12:31 - Addiction by the Numbers
01:17:40 - The Opioid Crisis
01:31:34 - How Are We Redressing the Crisis?
01:40:14 - The Proliferation of Cannabis & Psychedelics
01:50:40 - The Effects of Vaping Among Teens
01:52:19 - How to Identify a Potential Addict
01:56:24 - The Hard Balance for Parents
02:06:02 - How Does Addiction Get Passed Genetically?
02:08:41 - Going on a Dopamine Fast
02:15:16 - Closing Remarks
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@richroll 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching - I hope you find it helpful and share it with those in your life who are struggling right now. To read more and peruse the show notes visit: bit.ly/richroll623

@nateshattuck4353 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent interview thanks Rich

@sunflower-oo1ff 2 жыл бұрын

wow...what an eye opener. Thank you Rich.

@kevinfischer4759 2 жыл бұрын

I've been listening to this for the last few days and it helps me with my addiction issues. You always have the most insightful guests and these podcasts are like therapy to me. Thank you.

@redskelton4245 2 жыл бұрын

What is with the old thumbnail pic? You addicted to vanity?

@westkootenaywild7658 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this. 🙏

@jdmagalis9371 Жыл бұрын

I would consider a few hours spent with Dr. Lembke the equivalent to winning the lottery. What a wise,humble,thoughtful, transparent, generous, highly intelligent human being. Wonderful interview! Thank you.

@pavelskop305 7 ай бұрын

Exactly right! ❤

@westkootenaywild7658 3 ай бұрын

100%. She is just brilliant.

@TonyEdwards1010 Ай бұрын

Agreed.

@kellylawrence5986 2 жыл бұрын

I love all your podcasts, but this one inspired me into action; I went to my first meeting and picked up white chip! I need this to work so I can be present for my 2 sweet baby girls and their father. Thank you 🙏

@manleynelson9419 2 жыл бұрын

I've picked up hundreds of white chips. Sincere every time. Failed until I succeeded. Keep showing up and sharing. It works if you work it

@daedra40 2 жыл бұрын

I am happy for you :) And I wish you the best

@jimmyramos3364 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats Kelly. It's been a week I hope your feeling OK. It can hard in the beginning but the beauty in it is the restoration of yourself. Take care of yourself all other relationships will fall in place in time. ✌❤

@BrianDeCosta 2 жыл бұрын

You're a badass Kelly!

@xavinaut 2 жыл бұрын

Well done Keep with it I'm coming up 6 months After 32 years of abuse

@margaretfriis965 2 жыл бұрын

2.5 months sober because of AA! It feels great!😊

@judymanning2538 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoy listening to the speakers mtgs on you tube. ❤

@noneone8726 2 жыл бұрын

all you have done is swap an addiction to a substance for an addiction to meetings, slogans, cult thinking, coffee and cigarettes.

@DM-nw5lu 2 жыл бұрын

none one Since when does AA promote the use of cigarettes and coffee? Just sounds like you're projecting. Finding a group of people who understand you isn't a bad thing. It helps people.

@jamestopham7744 2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@jamesechevarria6177 2 жыл бұрын

@@noneone8726 a better qualified Life

@djinniusdjinni 7 ай бұрын

Gosh I love hearing that the aim is not to try and escape the dopamine circus wheel, because it's impossible anyway, it's about carefully taking a look at your own dopamine triggering activities and judging if they are harmful to yourself and others, what their consequences are and if they are worth pursuing or dumping.

@ryanhilton7810 2 жыл бұрын

"You already had a spiritual awakening. You did it by hitting bottom, and crawling your way back out again." This remark, within the exchange starting at 1:45:00, is deeply, remarkably profound. It is clear that both Rich and Dr. Lembke are gripped by the words they share here. Fascinating.

@a.a.sanfrancisco6078 2 жыл бұрын

Finding a recovered life, is a spiritual experience regardless what you choose to believe in as a higher power. The belief that others got sober or clean using a program of action, can be an adequate Higher Power for many. Discovering the stories I had created to rationalize the destruction of my moral code, my base belief systems, to support the insanity alcoholism created, will continue to be a spiritual journey.

@JaneASmyth 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. This comment to Rich made me teary. So much compassion. Stay strong!

@a.a.sanfrancisco6078 2 жыл бұрын

@BullShark Alcoholism and addictions highjack the mind. For many, a spiritual awakening is simply learning that what you thought was real, was actually a delusion. Usually created by the drug. For others, they get connected to their inner voice, the language of the heart, that gut feeling most folks ignore even when getting ready to do something that could get them in trouble. Others still, have a spiritual awakening of sorts. They get invested in religions, spiritual gurus, spiritual practices. A simple spiritual practice could be meditation or many types of Yoga.

@burrkut 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, Ryan.

@the.bonsai.samurai 2 жыл бұрын

@@a.a.sanfrancisco6078 I liked you answer, thank you! Having a spiritual awakening does not mean the heavens open up, angels start singing and God speaks to you, like it is romanticized in pop culture these days. It's something much more simplistic and that's why most people cannot actually have this awakening, they are waiting or looking for something grandiose to happen to them.

@artyshmunzuk5435 2 жыл бұрын

She totally changed my view on my addiction and actually alleviated a lot of my pain. Everyone should know about her work. It would make the world much better place

@TheWdayton Жыл бұрын

Her presence online is super helpful for people who don’t have a lot of resources. Her insights really resonate while most of what we hear about addiction is made up by people who don’t have real experience to inform their opinions. Congrats on your own journey.

@prabhanjanavramagiri8208 Жыл бұрын

You have to hear the Huberman Podcast with her.

@fiennesite 2 жыл бұрын

As a trauma counselor..I am constantly wrestling with helping people with dual diagnoses of addictions and other mental health diagnoses. I am finding we really cannot do the tougher trauma work until people have a handle on their addiction. However, as people become sober, the depression and anxiety, the truth about self-medicating do become evident. How do they fill that gap...how to cope with all those uncomfortable feelings once the substance is gone? I absolutely believe the problem is 80% environmental..that work lives are so much less satisfying, that we are more isolated than ever, medication basically balances the scales so people can cope with the demands if the automated technical, dehumanizing nature of life and work. I spend so much time helping people accept...you are not broken..the world is broken...and until we can make changes in the world, how we are treated...we have to use medications, healthy self-care, spirituality to hopefully heal addictions. But as they said in the video..some people cannot live in this world with their brain that has been changed from trauma, chronic stress, without medications.

@lalailm 2 жыл бұрын

I loved this comment. Agree with 100%. We accepted that medication and other ways treatments for mental health are just a way of dealing with the world now, and it is whats it is… when in reality, sometimes we should be changing what this world is and what it expects of humans today. Our bodies and physiology did not evolve in the same pace as our way of life

@angelawilliamson6765 Жыл бұрын

I can see you wrote your comment a year ago, I just have to say I wholeheartedly relate to your hypothesis, we do live in a really unhealthy Society set up to isolate us, creating so much distrust & fear, how many of us feel we are just a cog in a very big machine in the system. I attend a 12-step al-anon program, just so I can hear real talk. And try to understand why relationships in general feel like hard. Thanks for your intuitive comment. 👍🙏🏼

@Kali08012 Жыл бұрын

You comment reminds me of Aldous Huxley’s book The Brave New World, where all of society takes a pill to suppress their emotions, in response to a unnatural way of life. That book was extremely eye opening to me.

@SuperLammens 5 ай бұрын

It is no sign of health to be well adjusted to a profound sick culture

@SuperLammens 5 ай бұрын

1:16:37 I do think self medication with any cortisol. Lowering substance to escape cortisol triggering thoughts is normal in a culture where human Basic needs are not meet

@robertahlborg9235 2 жыл бұрын

I am a RN who has spent half a 37 year career working in corrections and Behavioral health. I found this conversation spot on in its message and contentions. At the same time it was relaxed and incredibly humble, thank you both. I go to work tonight a little less jaded and slightly more empathetic. Bob Ahlborg RN

@Ava_B. Жыл бұрын

Bless you for your open mindedness. ❤

@joshcarey2916 Жыл бұрын

Cheers Bob, I found sobriety and then got my RN license to help others with mental health and addiction. Such an amazing and rewarding career, it’s hard but I believe I was meant to serve in this way.

@nommh 2 жыл бұрын

Wow I‘m so happy I don‘t need a story to explain my addiction. My parents were such well meaning people and there was no major trauma in my life. The hard part may be to find the right kind of help. But I‘m inspired to do that now.

@bettyboo1927 2 жыл бұрын

I have found listening to Annie Grace really helpful with alcohol addiction, you might too? She’s utterly relatable and science based 👍

@kimpuchek1956 2 жыл бұрын

@@bettyboo1927 I’ll take this suggestion for another look at something that I might bite into. Not having some major trauma that we can remember, doesn’t mean that we haven’t experienced several small traumas along the way that have affected us.

@chrisr4679 2 жыл бұрын

Her message it's really big. We need more people like her. She has shared a lot with the world about how to have a better life and more if you have struggled with addiction.

@karenscookingkorner 2 жыл бұрын

My son-in-law died from a ‘heroin’ overdose at 36 years old. It turned out to be 100% Fentynol. Sorry for the bad spelling. His 3 children found him. He leaves behind my daughter and 4 beautiful kids.......THANK YOU for your work Anna!

@judymanning2538 2 жыл бұрын

I am so sorry ❤

@TheWdayton Жыл бұрын

So sorry for your loss. Some folks forget that addicts are people too and rarely wanted to be addicts. Your son will be remembered tonight with compassion and understanding by a man he never met.

@beholden1663 Жыл бұрын

My heartfelt condolences and prayers especially for your late son’s 3 children that they can heal from the trauma of seeing their daddy dead. Your son was not a bad person and there is no Shame in addition. It’s usually a cry out for connection. His soul lives eternally in the spiritual world. It is okay to grieve as long as you want. 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️

@Kali08012 Жыл бұрын

How awful! 😢

@missaomagica2198 10 ай бұрын

Just want to sent you and youre family a big hug

@jorgeromera3861 2 жыл бұрын

A real pleasure listening to these well articulated wise people about such a pivotal and difficult issue in current society.

@stacielivinthedream8510 Жыл бұрын

Amen! 😇😍😊🙏♥️

@floxendoodle942 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing podcast! The part of the podcast where Rich talked about being raised in an “achievement-oriented household” really resonated with me. I don’t know if this is the case in all such households but, in my case, it was just a mask for conditional love. I figured out from a very young age that if I wanted my parents’ love, validation, and attention, I would have to perform. Neither of my parents were emotionally available so, when I did perform, I usually just got emotional breadcrumbs. When I raised my own children, both of whom are adults now, I made it a point to tell them often (and still do) that they are loved unconditionally, that they have intrinsic worth apart from their accomplishments, and that there is nothing they can do to make me love them any more than I already do. Both are still motivated to achieve things in life but it is for the right reasons and not to get their parents’ love.

@paulocarvalho4070 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, man. This is gold and can change broken parenting relationships. Thank you so much for sharing this. Peace!

@allyson-- Жыл бұрын

;_;

@fahmidaseraji369 9 ай бұрын

We experienced this kind of parenting in many south Asian households. This kind of acheivement oriented love finally makes you numb and depressed, especially if you ever fail to fulfil their expectation when you reach 25.

@jimmyramos3364 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes wanting is not enough. The craving and the obsession will not allow it. The power of choice disappears until we reach for the hand of that power greater than ourselves . ✌❤

@alexanderalexander9759 2 жыл бұрын

Growing up in a screen world, my first dopamine hits came from playing lego racers on the PC. I found myself going to the computer every morning with my coffee when I grew up. The other day I did a dopamine detox and noticed how much my mind would gravitate back towards wanting to go on the computer. Addiction comes in many different outlets, I feel like habitual practises can lead to addiction in such a subtle way. Just being & meditating has helped my attachments to things lesson but discipline needs to be applied.

@dandamerville 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Alexander X 2 -- I appreciate your comment. Yes, something about "Just being & meditating" that seems to both mitigate the crash from over-doing dopamine and steer the regular meditator away from chasing D.. It might be as simple as cognitively reframing the depression flavored anhedonia that inevitably follows a dopamine hike: "Hey, I'm not simply bumming because I overdid dopamine, I'm meditating like a champ." It could be something more subtle at the neurochemical level -- if one persists with meditation, their mind learns to feed itself serotonin, creating peaceful contentment (and focus) instead of craving dopamine. For whatever reason, meditation works to alleviate the ups an downs of both exaggerated dopamine chasing and everyday life. Take care, DAN

@neelakan678 Жыл бұрын

Nature is dopamine hit number 1

@neelakan678 Жыл бұрын

Addicts had a dozen or more doctors. Biden just made those dollars worth 10-? Percent less.

@neelakan678 Жыл бұрын

Suburbia is an alien-Nation. Rebuild cities and burbs to include community.

@linedallaire6637 2 жыл бұрын

My cousin, a psychologist, was always repeating this: PEOPLE ARE IN DEEP MOURNING..... THEY LOST SOMETHING THAT THEY LOVED OR CHERISHED AND ONLY A FEW CAN OVERCOME THE LOSS. Is losing an addiction that leaves a hole in your life?

@ekasubjectus91 10 ай бұрын

I feel like Anna Lembke is like embodied angel on this planet and I am so happy to find about her existence. I really want to read her books...

@CRISPSolutions 2 жыл бұрын

This was legendary... Goggins, Huberman and now Lembke!! Extremely grateful to you and your team Rich.

@StickHits 2 жыл бұрын

20:40 really changed my perspective, up until now I felt inferior that I did not have specific trauma to blame for addiction, and that was making detox a lot harder, not having anyone to be mad at but yourself

@tragikk03 5 ай бұрын

I tried heroin the first time at 14.. injecting daily by 15. I quit at 27, after lots of attempts, and started abusing other drugs. If I had people like you two in my life it wouldn't have taken this long to figure things out. Appreciate yall putting this info out there for the masses.

@jenniferhayes3396 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent episode. I would love to see you interview Dr. Susan Pierce Thompson on the subject of food addiction. So many of us are incredibly vulnerable given our current food environment.

@marliesyanke4580 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, food addiction is very harmful, would like to learn more about that.

@ChukwumaOnyeijeMD 2 жыл бұрын

Bought the book. Found myself saying "Wow" multiple times. Such an important discussion. Thank you, Rich.

@chadhiggins9944 Жыл бұрын

This is one of the best conversations I've listened to in the last decade. Absolutely remarkable.

@hdarst Жыл бұрын

30 years as an addition counselor, and I agree wholeheartedly with this reaction to the podcast!

@femchud9255 3 ай бұрын

Anna Lembke is incredible. Her knowledge, compassion, and ability to communicate her thoughts make for such a great listen.

@cube435 2 жыл бұрын

I have taken Suboxone for nearly 13 years, same dose of 1 mg per day the entire time. It has enabled me to have a full and happy life! Zero AA, therapy, or any other intervention. Those things are great but never appealed to me. Thank you for the informative convo.

@factsoverfiction7826 2 жыл бұрын

Watching my friend's difficulty with diabetes dietary changes ... I've realized sugar is an addiction. Insulin just allows people to keep using their favorite drug. Our grocery shelves are full of sugar ... Even in bread, peanut butter, meats ... Even dog food. Crazy.

@marliesyanke4580 2 жыл бұрын

Sugar addiction is harming me, but i can't stop no matter how i try to stop eating it.

@mikerayco 2 жыл бұрын

True, I think the only way to mitigate this is to have regulation with the sugar content of foods sold in the supermarket.

@debwehr5266 2 жыл бұрын

So true, I am fighting my sugar addiction right now. I beat my nicotine addiction 4 months ago with no problem, sugar on the other hand I feel I will be fighting for a lifetime.

@poetlaureate7334 7 ай бұрын

Her voice, is addictive to listen to. Ironically.

@shinatkavolgas7389 2 жыл бұрын

Addicted to these podcasts….

@bjoussema2766 3 ай бұрын

Aside from the knowledge that Dr Lembke carries in her mind, I'm deeply moved by the level of compassion and humility that this woman/mother carries in her heart. If anyone here can reach out to her, I would love for her to get a copy of the Quran and to be introduced to the teaching Islam (its morals and values) that she inadvertently preaches: the importance of a higher power in our lives, the critical role of the community/family, the fact that this life is nothing but a test and how that empowers the muslims in face of tribulations, having compassion for the one who's struggling and eventually coming at his/her aid ...

@puppetmaster706 7 ай бұрын

Ahhhhh, the limits we put on ourselves in crazy. At the end of the day, we all want to be happy, but many times when we want or “need” something but can’t get that satisfaction at that moment, our brains trick us into finding a reason/excuse to not be happy, and our dopamine goes down bc of our thoughts . You become what you think.

@karlasnyder9856 Жыл бұрын

Just happened upon this the morning after a relapse. So much I could say but my takeaway is get back to AA. I’ve resisted for yrs. And I ll get the book. I’m so grateful for your honesty. Grateful for the info. It’s time. Looking up a mtg now.

@123Casio 2 жыл бұрын

Two incredibly intelligent people. One of the greatest conversations I’ve heard about addiction and how the brain works. Wow, I’m just so impressed and looking forward to reading Dr. Lembke’s book. Thank you, Rich! Great show!

@purposedrivenrecoveryacademy Жыл бұрын

This is so helpful! Just ordered your book Anna I’m going to add to my curriculum more of the neuroscience than I already have. I’ve been in recovery for 46 years, but started drinking after 10 and continue to drink for 10 more years before realizing it was a real problem and that’s when I discovered AA. I too am a therapist and find so many people that have an aversion to religion so I try to live my Christian faith and not be like so many others that are judge mental and feel it is a cult. My last book I wrote was a 12 step book that focuses on step 11, but also brings in some really helpful Bible verses that were transformational to me, as well as actually listening to my higher power and writing down what I heard him say. Kind of hard to do step 11 praying for the knowledge of God‘s will for us if you don’t listen to what he has to say about it :-) lol. Thank you for the podcast. I will begin listening to it, and looking forward to the kinship of recovery. Blessings to both of you.

@Kali08012 Жыл бұрын

What is your book called?

@purposedrivenrecoveryacademy Жыл бұрын

@@Kali08012 Thanks for asking... My name is Linda Larson Schlitz

@jessicadora7213 2 жыл бұрын

one of the best podcasts I've ever seen on this topic. Yu are both very brave and honest, you are setting a great example. You guide us moving forward toward honesty, truth, and healing. Thank you!

@jimmieingram2081 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this podcast and the light is shined on addiction. I would like to weigh in on the use of psychedelics for mental wellness treatment. I’ve struggled with depression my whole life and have found a great deal of help through ketamine infusions. I don’t see it as a cure all though. I still go to counseling, do breath work, ice baths and mediate. It’s just one tool that’s helped me see what’s possible in me. It’s not something I would say everyone should use but it has been helpful for me personally. I can completely understand your concern with it though. It could problematic for some. I appreciate your honesty and vulnerability. You have an inspiring story. Stay on the path brother🙏🏻

@alumpyhorse 2 жыл бұрын

Two wonderful people, with so much respect for each other and so much wisdom

@tanyasteininger5901 2 жыл бұрын

What an incredible conversation. I have watched it twice and will keep at it. So much rich content, depth, balanced, graceful understanding between both of you.

@larareynolds2765 2 жыл бұрын

Dr Anna is excellent 👍. Thank you for having a great roll of guests, Rich. Peace.

@davidsimpson1905 2 жыл бұрын

What a pleasant presence to have on the pod. Awesome human!

@justinmanning 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Rich and Dr. Lembke!

@sowmindful1501 2 жыл бұрын

As someone who’s still working with my cannabis addiction, this was perfectly timed. And after a hard day of serving Starbucks Zombi…I mean Customers, the craving is really bad.

@laurakali6522 2 жыл бұрын

And Starbucks is a bit of an addiction for some….

@sowmindful1501 2 жыл бұрын

@@laurakali6522 An addiction for many, sadly. The only customers who come back daily, are the caffeine drinkers. The regulars that I see once in a blue moon, are the ones who enjoy an Unsweetened Passion Herbal Tea.

@sowmindful1501 2 жыл бұрын

@BullShark I can attest to this. It had been almost a year since I had any caffeine, and about 2 months ago, I had less than 8oz’s of some standard drip brew - never again will I consume coffee, or caffeine beverages. My whole system felt out of whack.

@oggonzalezadventures2009 2 жыл бұрын

@@sowmindful1501 how did you stop cannabis sir?

@nstuck222 2 жыл бұрын

You 2 are fantastic, what awesome people to listen to in conversation - the compassion and empathy were tangible, so appreciate you both!

@ChrisWakeford 2 жыл бұрын

Rich this is a rock star interview-what a very special lady. Great insights for this time.

@jahninapamintuan1849 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for bringing wonderful people into your podcast Rich!

@karenscookingkorner 2 жыл бұрын

Cannot wait to read Anna’s book! Thank you Anna for your work!

@BrianDeCosta 2 жыл бұрын

How can the human species overcome if we don't know what we're up against? Anna you're doing amazing work painting a picture of the "enemy" that is ourselves. Great discussion, thank you both

@alaalfa8839 2 жыл бұрын

The story that says that opioids help to experience some transcendental meditation experiences is nonsense..... because probably it works short-term. The body creates its own medicine and serotonin and adrenaline, melatonin dopamine and other chemicals. But as Dr. Joe Dispenza says these meditation experiences are not chemical... he says everybody thinks it's chemical, but it's not chemical but an "electro-magnetic" feeling. So how some drugs can make such an effect on meditation long-term? It's nonsense. It works only if you stop thinking about your identity and problems and focus only on goals or even the small goals in a humble way. I think if opioids make such an effect it's an accident, it's not every day, and it's also a very short-term effect. The ones who promote opioids and say it helps you and your wellbeing and mediation are just ignorant people who want to sell the drugs.

@mariagriffin2221 2 жыл бұрын

So much respect for the Dr. Great interview!! Thank you both!

@Vineeth..v 2 жыл бұрын

Dr Lembke met another Hero.. (Always love the quality of questions and energy of conversation)

@erichmiller9567 2 жыл бұрын

Hands down one of my most favorite RR episodes. Such an illuminating discussion. Thank you!

@meganhopkins1497 2 жыл бұрын

Seriously I have a GED, I’ve been thinking all of these things for so long. It is both gratifying and terrifying to hear that I am most probably correct. The idea that the duality is absolutely necessary and as much as we push it aside will never go away. We will never escape it. It is profound and can be freeing for some but also extremely scary for others.

@joanowens7941 2 жыл бұрын

Fabulous interview! She's wonderful and you sync wonderfully together. Please have her on again!

@nandspeartree7263 2 жыл бұрын

Ih my gosh, I was so glued listening towards the end when you both spoke about parenting, I have a teen and I'm so happy to hear you both talking about the same dilemmas I have and I definitely learnt a lot. Thanks Rich for these wonderful talks by the way I'm vegan for a year now because of you and your wonderful guests. 🌿

@tomasanthony559 Жыл бұрын

Rich - thank you for this and all your work! Please have Anna Lembke back. She is brilliant.

@justin8038 Жыл бұрын

Anna Lembke is a gift to this earth

@gaelleduret 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you both for sharing such valuable information. Amazing guest and host. I wish the whole world could listen to it.

@paulhogan9490 Жыл бұрын

This has been so enlightening for me, early days here, one day at a time. Thanks folks xx

@persistentviolinnoob126 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Can't wait to watch this. Thanks a lot Rich and Dr. Anna.

@paigemahnesmith 2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Lembke and Rich.....from the very bottom to the tippy top of my heart thank you both sooooooooo much.

@elissaaltman7684 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, thank you for this amazing conversation. No one to my mind has explained addiction so clearly. Greatly appreciative to both host and guest.

@lulitmelake7534 2 жыл бұрын

Your search for the truth answers all the questions I have . Thanks

@sarahscharnett8233 2 жыл бұрын

This kind of honesty sets us free.

@marciasteinbacher5688 Жыл бұрын

Trusting your kids to a certain degree is a must..love you both so much!

@christaknappen3355 2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate Dr. Lembke’s work and her objective, warm nature. This was a really great interview. She’s great in ALL of them.

@big_red_machine3547 Жыл бұрын

Incredible interview. Glad that I found you Rich Roll. I’m hopelessly addicted to everything it seems. This new insight has motivated me to get back on my horse and try to achieve homeostasis again. It’s traumatic amount of hell to go through, but better than the alternative

@flxbl1 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you both for this conversation.

@martl3288 2 жыл бұрын

Ive have pretty much bern addicted to listening to this beautiful being and both host interviews wow im going through something with my grandson and i no watching this all day helped answer so many thoughts in my head for the fact about i can feel better about i dont have to keep figuring out why he has this addiction thanks so much

@ejholahan716 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent show. Excellent guest. Bravi, Rich and Dr. Lembke!

@nicksince9487 2 жыл бұрын

What an amazing conversation, super grateful for the time you both took to have this discussion

@lildebbie997 2 жыл бұрын

I Love this lady. I also love all of the new doctors I'm "meeting" from Stanford as of late. Lastly, I just found your podcast Mr. Roll, and I appreciate already the people I see you have interviewed, and look forward to watching them all.

@MohamedAshraf-fw1dc 2 жыл бұрын

listened to this on stitcher I vouch for every bit of advice given in this podcast: I'd go as far as recommending having the youtube transcript of this episode available and going through it every now and then thank you so much Rich and Dr. Anna

@lisamurphy51 2 жыл бұрын

I so appreciate humanity in physicians 🙏

@icampabadals 2 жыл бұрын

What a great conversation. I love especially Dr. Lembke's prescription of honesty. Being honest with the people close to us is so rewarding and liberating, and a single honest conversation can make us go home with incredible new insight about ourselves. Thank you for the great episode and godspeed to everybody out there. We're all gonna make it!

@jasonvictor1798 2 жыл бұрын

wow. gotta hand it to ya Rich and the team. Production value is next level!

@litap24 2 жыл бұрын

I finally watched this yesterday. Such an amazing interview with such an incredible doctore.

@henriquepierre 8 ай бұрын

Humanity at its peak. Thank both and all involved

@bangfruit 2 жыл бұрын

Your story and program continue to inspire. Keep running YOUR race sir!

@rodneyjanz 2 жыл бұрын

Rich and Anna - THANK YOU!!!

@bettyboo1927 2 жыл бұрын

So insightful, compassionate and illuminating. Many thanks 🙏

@fevronija 2 жыл бұрын

I thoroughly enjoyed every minute literally! Thank you both👏This woman is an absolute gem that Rich so masterfully brought into the light.

@meganhopkins1497 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely necessary conversation. I encourage everyone to listen carefully and recognize the truth in all of this.

@BRM101 Жыл бұрын

Thanks guys this is an amazing podcast it’s my second time watching and it’s just the reminder I need right now. Much love from the UK

@pathuboi6594 4 ай бұрын

I just really like Dr. Anna Lembke. Her humanity, honesty and humor make me find her approachable. I thank both of you.

@CindyHerrera01 2 жыл бұрын

What I liked the most was her compliments to you at the end of the podcast. congrats!

@larrytate1657 Жыл бұрын

So true about how people can have a good life and still get addicted. It’s a problem of it’s own that has to treated. not simply a side effect of something else.

@dinishwi7522 2 жыл бұрын

Such an interesting discussion. Thanks, Rich. Love from Sri Lanka

@michelleembs8551 2 жыл бұрын

Great show! Thank you both!

@ericx1023 Жыл бұрын

Awesome talk. Deeply inspiring and touching. Thanks for the brilliant work of both.

@barbararuiz2690 4 ай бұрын

Dopamine Nation is on my reading list for 2024. Fascinating and useful information. Thank you. 📚

@nueah 2 жыл бұрын

This is so good! Everyone like this!! bc every person would benefit from this conversation.

@eleanorbertuch135 2 жыл бұрын

So very informative on so many levels. Thank you. This message so be shared with many👏👏👏👏👏

@balajikandavel 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing conversation. Thanks Rich

@spngbobsquarepants8755 Жыл бұрын

Most excellent and timely. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this.

@SebasCoghi 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this insightful episode, I will definitely buy the book.

@BOBSMITHH Жыл бұрын

This was great. More Stanford professors, please!

@MANIMartinofficial 2 жыл бұрын

This is a life changing podcast. Thank you very much 🙏

@noellecuisine8912 Жыл бұрын

Great interview Rich ! Love her , had discovered her work a year ago maybe….thank you very much for sharing her work! And thank you so much for your beautiful vulnerability, wisdom and healing! You are an inspiration!