Alain Quartermaine man shut the hell up lol

Those would be fire. Twitter would rip Joan to shreds.

Oh yeah, what would yours be?

Major cat fight between Joan and Bette. On social media of all places.

Thank god it didn’t

hahahahaha... Bette grumbles while sipping a coke

Very, FUNNY!

Omg Iam fuking dieing lmao

And remember. No wire hangers ever.

I own 51% of this god damn company

Theirs.

i know it was shade, but i'd still be waiting for someone to point out "it's not your love".

LOL that reminded me of Mean Girls when the sweet girl was making a speech and the gay guy shouts "SHE DOESN'T EVEN GO HERE" :)

Thetalent Guru-Guru Oh yeah hilarious.. She sure showed them in thee end!!!

'their's' not there's.

Foreshadowed by 1940s Oscar shows' feuds between actress sisters Olivia de Havilland and Joan Fontaine.

So true!! This is some OG shade !!

Miss Craford Shade is Legedary

@@remyparaskovia5499 It should had been the other way round. Crawford was an awful person, Bette deserved that oscar.

!!!!!!

Richard Dunlap, who directed the 35th Academy Awards, considered positioning a camera backstage to capture the expressions/reactions of both Davis and Crawford when the winner was announced, but in the end, he decided against it, saying that "it would have been too cruel." Too bad.

that would have just been fuel to the fire, tasteless, and look like the whole feud was a stunt

@@musicaltheatergeek79 he would have made a fortune off of it though.

musicaltheatergeek79 source?

Anonymous people make statements on other people claiming this & that was said, & this or that was done, often, without providing the proof.

Beautifully written! She indeed stole the show and then some.. In fact, no woman of her generation ever looked better at that age. She defied the laws of physics and Anne 100 deserved that Oscar of course, and may I say: she couldn't have asked for a classier or more gorgeous silver screen icon to accept it on her behalf than the one and only Joan Crawford. Timeless Oscar moment for the ages and makes up in a big way for Joan's own Oscar acceptance moment in 1946, which she was unfortunately too ill to attend.

Bette Davis said on Johnny Carson that it was against her. Bette should have won for Baby Jane!!

Bette should have won best actress for baby Jane and joan should have won for best SUPPORTING actress. That's what should have happened why did they not nominate her for supporting?!?! I'll never understand. I guess Joan was too proud for that.

Ari Nugroho why?

Jamie Garcia joan has a legendary feud bette davis. bette was nominated, and joan trying to call all nominations for accepting the award for them....

Jamie Garcia o

No...not very low. Joan obviously didn't want Bette to win, but she should have been nominated for Best Actress that year as well, even if it was to lose to Bette Davis. 2 Hollywood legends playing both leads in a movie late in their career. Both doing an incredible job. Everyone knowing about their rivalry, and one of them is tossed aside in the nominations. THAT is very low!! I think that was her way of saying fuck you to both Davis and Hollywood! And good for her. She's amazing!

The Oscars were always about favoritism and still is at these days, I'm even willing to say that now at days they give them like candies to anyone for payola. It was never their intention to give DiCaprio an Oscar for example but with the pressure of the public and his nomination there was no more delay. The Oscars are drawing everytime less people into watching them being deemed now at days a "tv show award for old people and to check who was best and worst dressed". Sad really.

She was in Broadway and couldn't attend.

Anne got the last laugh, though... she married Mel Brooks

So did Lee Remick ....

Hahaha, I am glad she didn't this moment on the shadiest moment in history when Joan did it for the books forever not only she had the moment of winning the Oscar cause they didn't nominated her but she had her revenge on Bette Davis and made her so angry

Read the book Divine Feud about them!! OMG!! So amazing, even better than the TV show!!

Manny G. Forever SAME! I love the show and love Old Hollywood gossip lol

Manny G. Forever It was also hinted at in Feud that Joan kept that award for herself and didn't give it to Anne. I don't know how true that is though.

It wasn't rivalry. Bette was a true professional - and by most accounts a good actress to work with. Joan spearheaded the feud.

To me it's more like pettiness than rivalry. Both actress can't stand each other that resulted to their feud.

Listened to it twice yes she stumbled briefly but I didn't hear any bits of Crawford know what you mean

I just cackled so loudly!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Wow wow wowwwwza!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

i heard she held on to her oscar for awhile lol

More like ms. Gru...

Thanks for pointing it out

Jane Doe : 👍👍‼️

How was it hers? When it wasnt. She looked a fool. Davis still has more acclaim and Oscars than Joan.

@@notthefather3919 All of the other 4 actresses agreed to allow Crawford to get the award in case they win, so there must be something we don't know but they did. And Hepburn never got involved with this Hollywood things, so I still think there are things we will never know.

@@GabiFOliv that's not true..who'd agree to let someone accept their award if they won. She found out who wouldn't be there and rallied votes to her.

@@notthefather3919 Look for it.

@@GabiFOliv Lee Remick was present dear. So just Geraldine, Anne, or maybe even Kate

Me too!

Me2!

Me too

same

yesss

+ramio1983 According to Bette and Joan The Divine Feud: Joan stood instantly erect, shoulders back, neck straight, head up. She stomped out her cigarette butt, grabbed the hand of the stage manager, and then with barely an 'EXCUSE ME' to Bette Davis, she marched past her and soared calmly on stage with the incomparable Crawford manner.

I don't see how since she was backstage while Ms Davis was in her seat. If true, however (and it sounds like something Crawford would do), what a ridiculous and delusional woman. She also looked like a fucking linebacker.

Bette was backstage also. And your 'She also looked like a beep linebacker' is obviously a rephrasing of what Rita Moreno said about Crawford years after an alleged meeting the two may/may not have had at the Oscars previous to this one, 'She was built like a linebacker'.

No Miss Davis was seated in the audience.

“excuse me, I have an Oscar to collect”* for some reason "to collect" sounds sassier xD

No she didn't she looked like a drag queen

Sonny Skye probably a lot

1874x

I’d say a few. It was a key moment in the feud.

Well she did help Anne Win by lobbying for her to win to spite Bette. Bancroft was a very worthy winner though.

Yes I noticed that too, but I thought she was saying "Gru..." not "Craw..." At least Joan was professional on stage and made it about Anne and didn't mention herself.

Yes! AND at the end!!! Joan looked down and gripped that Oscar like it was her own!!!!

@@blaase No proof Joan lobbied for Bancroft. That includes nothing from Bancroft herself.

Ramon Suarez I caught that too. But to me it sounded more like she was saying “Miss Gru...” rather than “Miss Craw...”.

Jessica Lange looked haggard though compared to Joan, I suppose black and white cameras were more flattering

@@Mandystesia Crawford was only in her mid to late 50s in this video (she kept her year of birth a secret). Lange was 68 when Feud came out. Crawford also used to starve herself to stay thin. Luckily for Lange, Ryan Murphy didn’t try to make her starve herself for that role. So, while I agree that Crawford looked a lot better, I think it’s a bit cruel to call Lange “haggard” :/

@@MrHenrytheoctopus The correct birth year was 1904.. Joan took good care of herself ( except for the smoking and drinking, which everyone did then )..

@@1953childstar 1904 is unconfirmed. Basically she used to say she was born 1908, but her grandma told someone once that she was born in 1904, so either Joan was lying or her grandma was incorrect. Most people tend to assume she was lying, though, as most actresses would lie about their age back then. But, there's no confirmed source, and I don't think it matters all that much anyway. Point is she was at least a decade younger than Lange at point of filming. And she didn't take good care of herself, as you've said, there was the smoking and the drinking which really shouldn't be written off as "everyone was doing it" it wasn't killing her any less just because it was popular, she also used to starve herself (according to those around her, and hinted at in her book), and she even had 6 of her teeth removed to keep her face looking thin. All of this was very common back then, but it's still irresponsible to claim that she "took care of herself", she took care of her appearance at the expense of her health. Also, Crawford only ever adopted children, in order to make sure her body kept shape, I'm pretty sure Lange's three kids are all biological. There's nothing wrong with that, of course, I just didn't mention it in my first comment and thought it was interesting. I have nothing against Crawford, she was indeed very beautiful, and that's all she wanted. But it's irresponsible to imply that she was taking care of herself, she knew her decisions were shortening her life, and it's important that we understand that too.

Yeah you're right she was always putting her health through Hell with poisonous habbits. Me: puts out a Newport 100 and picks up my large Mojito to sip.

Agree completely!

@Jarred Mello-Neyhart-May she still does even with Bette nominated

She won the BAFTA for it and the Tony for the stage production

It's NOT up there with the likes of Vivien Leigh in GWTW and Olivia de Havilland for The Heiress, it's ABOVE them for sure. Anne Bancroft gave a performance of a lifetime and frankly I don't think there were many actresses at that time can do justice to the role of Anne Sullivan like Bancroft did.

@@ashashraa6579 You are so right. I think Anne's performance was the best ever to win the Academy Award for Best Actress. It really surprises me that it isn't recognized more as that - comparing to other (Vivien, Olivia, Meryl, Jane . . . ).

It’s almost like she had no ulterior motives ☺️

@@adamsbriee6330 she did most definitely. I wish I was old enough back then to be backstage when Joan accepted the Oscar for Anne. As a matter of fact I was a gleam in my parents eyes.

@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. I really hope you understood that I was being sarcastic 💀

We all know that Joan was all sweetness and light. "No wire hangers! Ever!"

She did this to get at Bette Davis lol

Exactly. That's what I came here to see. :)

Agent69 o

now THAT would have been priceless--probably frozen shock for 10 seconds then great anger as Joan stole the whole show from her!!

that would have been priceless. Too bad its lost to history.

Agent69 Good that it is...and the speech was lame.

Yes, she was, and Bette was fantastic in Baby Jane also. The other two movies, I never saw, so I don't know about them. The Academy is known for not giving awards to horror or comedy movies, so I can see why Anne won though.

@@nina1522 Nominee Geraldine Page was great starring in Sweet Bird of Youth, ironically playing a ruthless aging Hollywood actress.

Joan was a SHARK

Joan Shark

well sure it makes for a good STORY, but I mean here you have the actual archived video. She literally wouldn't have had the time to say that, you see how quickly Crawford is walking along that just backstage area before she reaches the open part of the stage. It's right after Bancroft's name is announced and Crawford clearly didn't say anything to anyone while we see her on the camera there.

According to Feud, Joan allegedly kept the Oscar and didn't give it to Anne.

@@moviemaster8510 * "Dear" Joan Shark "Dearest."

AND she was a survivor from the Silent era. Not everyone could make the transition. True Hollywood STAR. She didn’t let anything stop her & kept on working & earned her own Oscar with a stellar performance. Always every inch a STAR. And grateful to her fans.

Don't forge the silver glitter all over her hair!

To quote Hedda Hopper in her post-Oscars column: “When it comes to giving or stealing a show, nobody can top Joan Crawford.”

milhouse14 Oh, you know Jessica Lange is gonna play the hell out if this scene! She's iconic for playing the elegant, shady hag. I can't wait either.

milhouse14 the 5th episode is titled 'And the Oscar goes to...'

I like Feud but Feud is already full of shit. Davis didn't bang her director. Crawford didn't get the blonde actress who played the neighbor girl fired, she just didn't like her. Neither of them sat around complaining about men trying to keep them down....ive read their books, they never blamed men for anything bad that happened in their careers.

Oh my gosh, yes! While the two stars were victims of a male driven Hollywood, I feel that that show is really playing that aspect out. I've seen other things too that bug me. One is that they quote Katharine Hepburn as being a year older than Davis. At that time, Katharine was still using her birthday of 8 Nov (her older brother who died birthday) 1909. It wouldn't be until the early 90's she came clean that it was 12 May 1907. Davis also didn't turn down Mildred Pierce because the character was a mother to a teenager--she took the Corn is Green instead and insisted that they make her old since the character was older. The show keeps driving the point that Davis was about the part and not vanity, yet then they make that claim. Another issue is that B.D. was never a bombshell like she's being portrayed. That affair bit is really driving me nuts though. That's such a big thing to just make up. The sad thing is, people who just see the show will believe it. I read that Ryan Murphy wanted to show that women over 50 can still be sexual--Golden Girls has already tackled that! Haha

milhouse14 It's going to. One of the episodes is about the Oscars 👍🏻

Joan reciprocated with crow.

Hahaha

It's like the shade of the millenium.

OK, I will. Between Bette Davis in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? and Anne Bancroft in The Miracle Worker... I WOULD choose Bancroft!

No way McKenna! but I like you stoking up the drama.

sigmund grizli hahaaha

I know right, and it's such a shame given her reasoning behind the Oscar which was Anne's performance in the Miracle Worker. Which is a testament and story to people with disabilities that they can do anything and that nothing should hold them back. Not to mention the story is based on that of Helen Keller who was one of the greatest icons and idols for people with disabilities. It also shows to people mentoring others with disabilities to never give up on them no matter how hard it may seem.

sigmund grizli I’m a great fan of Bette Davis, but I’ve no idea what possessed her to think she deserved an Oscar more than Anne Bancroft. Bancroft gave a poignant, nuanced, heartbreaking performance as Ann Sullivan. Davis chewed up the scenery, and gave a one-note performance as a crazed harridan. Davis certainly deserved her Oscars, and she should’ve won for The Letter, The Little Foxes, and All About Eve. But Baby Jane? No way.

Like, the 3?

And once again it backfires and she breaks her own back!

I loved this film it was beautiful xxx

IDK Lee Remick was fabulous. There was stiff competition that year.

It Was Made For Anne Bancroft to win!!!!

Can’t forget the 2022 Oscars now.

I think Bancroft will get a lot of recognition this December when THE GRADUATE celebrates it 50th anniversary. Released four months after another seminal film, BONNIE AND CLYDE, both films helped to usher in the New Hollywood and changed American cinema forever. B&C got a lot of media attention this summer, so I suspect the same will happen with TG in the winter.

She was such an amazing actress. I agree that she didn’t seem to receive the recognition that she earned.

Make no mistake: Bancroft deserved 100% of that Oscar. Davis was just a tacky old sore loser for even suggesting it should've gone to her instead. I mean, Jesus Christ, who would be so classless as to dare say such a miserably selfish and grotesquely rude thing out loud? Well, Davis of course. I'm only sorry the beautiful and talented Miss Bancroft had to suffer through Davis' vulgar self-centeredness all those years just because she wasn't mature enough to accept reality and get the f over it!

+alexandreetsasha Stunning?! If you like old drag queens, I guess.

I agree with you. My first impression when Joan Crawford walked out, honestly, was "Hollywood royalty." Yeah, she shimmered, and was wearing diamonds, but by this period she totally merited having this look...she had been in the movies for nearly 40 years here. "Mommie Dearest" just maligned her reputation in the eyes of a lot of people (which brilliant as Faye Dunaway was in that movie -- at conveying emotion that is -- I don't believe for one second that Crawford was ever that crazy or scary). I admire Crawford really, because she came from VERY humble beginnings to achieve what she did in her life and her career. Whereas, someone like Katharine Hepburn, came from a life of wealth and privilege. I'm not saying that Kate didn't have talent (because at her best, she was a gifted actress), or that she didn't work hard, but it's WAY harder for someone to become something when they come from nothing.

She's ugly as hell !

I didn't compare the two of them in regard to talent. I think that Katharine Hepburn was definitely a better actress than Crawford. Well...she was better than Davis, too...but I digress. But, yes, Crawford, at her best, turned in fine work as an actress. So, anyone saying otherwise is just ignorantly stating so without having prior watched any of her work...her best work, that is. What I said in my prior post (and I stated it all rather explicitly so there should have been no confusion) is that I admire what Crawford was able to accomplish in her life considering that she came from a life of poverty and incredible hardship. And, like it or not, IT IS A REMARKABLE FEAT. As I said, it's MUCH easier for someone with wealth, a name, connections, etc. to achieve success and attain this amazing life when they have such attributes in their corner. (Side note: I admire Hepburn's talent as an actress, but she was obviously no saint. It's no secret that she carried on an affair with a married man for over 25 years. So, if you're referencing Hepburn's character in relation to Crawford's, Hepburn was not lily white).

Yes, I'm familiar with the "wife knew about the relationship between the two of them and was fine with it" story. Or "their son was disabled" one. Or that "Tracy being Catholic, he couldn't divorce." But I've always had a feeling that the reality of his wife completely accepting their relationship is not altogether accurate. I mean, people are human, and I know that most women are not just going to be completely fine with their husband sleeping with another woman. And this way of thinking was probably all the more rare during that period and with a more conservative belief system in place. I also find it curious how people are willing to overlook the imperfections and indiscretions of, for example, Hepburn, and they run certain other celebrities -- I'm referring to Crawford, of course -- into the ground.

It was stupid and extremely rude from her side. I'm sure she did regret deeply later on her life.

@@7elegrama Joan? Ha ! I bet she never regretted it !

Joan would NEVER have accepted as Best SUPPORTING Actress !! In All About Eve, Anne Baxter refused to be that & insisted on her being nommed for Best Actress against Bette. As a result the vote was split & neither got an award.

@Fly by night , Bette was just as big of a bitch if not bigger.

José Carlos C. Salazar after everything she did, nah, she deserved what she got.

Davis was better!!

@@aqualcunopiaceclassico3201 As good as Bette was in Baby Jane, I'd still have to give this contest to Anne Brancroft.

@@auntiechercher4266 Nope, Anne Bancroft performance is quite normal. Tharecare other 1000 performances like her's, but there is no performance like Davis's one in Baby Jane.

@@aqualcunopiaceclassico3201 Nope yourself. I don't know what you are looking at but Anne Bancroft's performance was anything but normal.

@@auntiechercher4266 Well it was. Anne Bancroft was a great stage actress but none of her performance in films was, to me, Oscar worthy. Good performance for sure, because no way she could have been a bad actress, but not outstanding. And the proof is that non of Bancroft's performances is remembered nowadays while Davis's portrayal of Jane will never be forgotten.

I would agree. Anne Bancroft was very good...and heartbreaking, too. She was better than Davis. I like watching Bette Davis, she was very entertaining. But her ego was massive. And at least in this instance there were performances better than hers.

You’re missing the point. Nobody’s denying what you’re saying but everyone knows good and damn well why this moment is so iconic.

Bette Davis' performance in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane was terrible. Full of huge melodramatic overacting, acting with her hands all over the place, very hammy. Her performance was like being hit with a sledgehammer, not at all subtle. She did not deserve to be nominated, let alone win. Anne Bancroft's role in The Miracle Worker was magnificent in comparison.

I have yet to see a bad Joan Crawford movie. The Women, Mildred Pierce, Baby Jane...

@@markbarret6836 seriously eh? Never a bad one - ever! She was the true definition of Hollywood stardom!

Maybe she deserved to be nominated too. But did Bette deserve to have her chance sabotaged?

@@keaton718 hey there, thanks for your reply. I think the reality is that they BOTH deserved nominations and when not receiving one, Miss Crawford played a good game to be screen on that stage! However, I by standing in for another actress was in no way sabotaging Bette Davis's chance. Collecting another actresses Oscar after her win in no way affected Miss Davis's nomination and chance. Hollywood was such a strange culture back then .. maybe more of a cult that culture! I'm glad that today with the invention of the internet and apps that all ppl from every walk of life have an opportunity to put their talents out there. (Ironic for me to say as I am not on any social media ... lol)

Crawford lobbied the voting members into voting against Davis, at least she did in the Feud show. She phoned them all up after determining she only needed to swing 100 voters.

I absolutely adore Ms Bancroft, but agree,,, Bette Davis should have won.

+Marc Allen Most likely because she already had 2 Oscars at this point, they didn't want to give her a third.

+Marc Allen Truth be told, any one of the nominees in this category would have been a worthy recipient. An amazing year! But Ms Bancroft would have gotten my vote. She attacked that role! She was an absolute necessity to the impact of The Miracle Worker.

Actually, Joan Crawford campaigned hard for Anne Bancroft to win. She hated Bette Davis. The two had a long standing rivalry. She did not want to see Bette Davis win a 3rd academy award.

She campaigned for Anne and offered to pick up the Oscar if Anne couldn't make it just to get Bette steamed.

She was creepy and that wig is creepier.

Frankie Tortonesi, 🤗

In fact, it later became known that Joan Crawford had badmouthed Bette Davis to the Oscar judges, so her chances of winning became slim. At that time Joan's word was taken very seriously. She wasn't professional at all off camera, unfortunately. But it's funny 😂

@@JamileMendes-ek9xp There is nothing nowhere that says Joan badmouthed Bette to Oscar judges. Just ridiculous what people come up with or was it that trashy Feud series where you get your information from ?

Poor Hedda Hopper - the failed actress that hated Davis for having the career and respect of her peers every actress wanted, and of course for being a Democrat.

Well, Crawford deserved to be recognized. After all, she made the picture possible! Bette Davis wouldn't have had an Oscar nomination if it hadn't been for Joan Crawford's vision of making an adaptation of that book. So, yes, I clearly understand her.

@@JCarlosCS1221 no she didnt deserve to be recognized. She isn't the only one who had that kind of idea

So what? She made it happen! Now stfu.

@@JCarlosCS1221 lmao "so what"? Yea, you Joan Crawford delusionists get mad when your weak defenses are exposed...similar to her She didn't make it happen. She was recognized as the narcissistic and jealous bitch that she was known to be. This was someone else's award, not anything for her alleged idea of adapting the novel. But Bette won in the end. Not only did she fire Joan from Sweet Charlotte, but Joan's legacy is mired by Mommie Dearest.

NOT

It's sad neither lady lived to be particularly old. But Patty adored Anne and said she helped keep her sane during the years they worked together. She even taught her the facts of life!

@@hcombs0104 That's very touching

Birdman was pretty good

okay boomer

@Dio Ego ..... YES !!

@Dio Ego ....go ahead...call the po-po

Bette and Joan would have been up there together. That would have been something to watch!

Crawford would of been up there fuming if Davis had won. And Davis would be fuming for having to share the stage with Crawford.

I totally agree :)

Yes, I agree.... between their roles, I would have chosen Anne over Bette that year too.

Agreed. Bette was great, but Anne was better.

I take it you were NOT disappointed then, LOL!

SWLinPHX you are right, I wasn't :-)

Joan did not campaign against Davis. Feud the series is not accurate, nor is Bette's end of life accusations. And you forget(?) that years before Bette had accepted for Kim Hunter; Greer Garson for Vivien Leigh and Sophia Loren to name a few. Not unheard of for Joan to accept for absentee.

​@@peliasadventurer602In fact, it later became known that Joan Crawford had badmouthed Bette Davis to the Oscar judges, so her chances of winning became slim. At that time Joan's word was taken very seriously. She wasn't professional at all off camera, unfortunately.

She is just a c..

​​​@@peliasadventurer602"You should always say good things about the dead. Joan is dead...that's good!" "Do you know why I'm so good at playing villains? Because I'm not a villain...maybe that's why Joan is so good at playing the good girl." Words by Bette Davis. They hated each other and that was really fun. But in the end, Bette won the feud...she received more Oscars and lived longer than Joan. 😂