Apple River stabbing trial: Friend of victim speaks

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Ай бұрын

Alexander Vang spoke about the events that led up to the fatal Apple River stabbing on July 30, 2022.
Nicolae Miu is charged with first-degree intentional homicide and multiple counts of attempted first-degree intentional homicide. He is accused of killing Stillwater, Minnesota, native 17-year-old Isaac Schuman and wounding four others on July 30, 2022.
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@mikemichaels2914
@mikemichaels2914 Ай бұрын
Vang- I smoked some Weed Prosecutor- By Weed you mean Marijuana? Vang- Yes Please🫣😂😂
@Lisa_X5
@Lisa_X5 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@FRESHL1887
@FRESHL1887 Ай бұрын
Well, he misunderstood the prosecutor: "You NEED Marijuana?" - "Yes, please!"
@mikeprzlomski2092
@mikeprzlomski2092 Ай бұрын
🤣😂🤣
@warriorloft
@warriorloft Ай бұрын
At least Alex did not put his hands on the man. 😂
@bigbrudda96
@bigbrudda96 Ай бұрын
@@warriorloftfat boy had plenty of layers of protection. Wouldn’t of even noticed
@traceyarnaud8433
@traceyarnaud8433 Ай бұрын
He was absolutely NOT very scared! He was laughing like a jackass
@jesintajesinta
@jesintajesinta Ай бұрын
At that moment they were taunting a man claiming to be a pedophile… but the man then chose to start murdering people and obviously the threat level increased.
@traceyarnaud8433
@traceyarnaud8433 Ай бұрын
@@jesintajesinta The claim that he told them that he was looking for little girls was never mentioned to police and was never recorded on that day. It was tacked on to the narrative just weeks before the trial after they all had time to make up something to make them look better. Is NM innocent of all blame? I definitely don’t think so, and his actions after the stabbings are not supportive of his claims of self defense either. All of this could have been avoided.
@jesintajesinta
@jesintajesinta Ай бұрын
@@traceyarnaud8433 it doesn’t matter that it wasn’t mentioned. Considering people were stabbed that was a pretty mute point to mention on part of the victims. Just because it wasn’t recorded doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I’ve made police reports and it’s very difficult to summarize everything in that level of stress and anxiety. Things always become clearer in time.
@jesintajesinta
@jesintajesinta Ай бұрын
@@traceyarnaud8433 he murdered someone… attempted to murder four others… all of which were unarmed and never made threats to him physically or otherwise.
@Joe-qm4yv
@Joe-qm4yv Ай бұрын
@@jesintajesintathe fact that not a single person mentioned it and that’s supposedly the reason for them messing w the guy in the first place it is very fishy
@jasonbridgman1334
@jasonbridgman1334 Ай бұрын
Thees kids should be in jail
@delroypure5671
@delroypure5671 12 күн бұрын
I'm not entirely sure it's that black and white. I've wasted my time watching every single one of these testimonies, I've still got a few to go. It seems to me, that Nicolae had made a mistake brandishing a weapon. However, it 'was' justified, but it is what caused primal instincts to kick in. ...and because Nicolae didn't ask for any of this, nor did he deserve any of this, everyone else should be charged. Nicolae should be charged with manslaughter in worst case scenario. The kids should go to trial, but only few of them are culpable. Definitely, a few of them.
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 4 күн бұрын
@@delroypure5671 Clearly self-defense.
@risvill3667
@risvill3667 Ай бұрын
I’m Asian, and I know for sure his parents are embarrassed and ashamed of him.
@MegBee-nz9vk
@MegBee-nz9vk Ай бұрын
I was about to say I dated an Asian and I am fairly certain he wasn't raised like these kids and I think he didn't get hurt bc he was smart enough to stay out of this man's way in comparison to his "friends."
@IWillBe00
@IWillBe00 Ай бұрын
Or maybe they were too hard and why he feels the need to act like a complete imbecile. Also why he lies so easily.
@datsumcrzysht
@datsumcrzysht Ай бұрын
This is typical mob mentality. Things that most people wouldn’t do while alone, become easy to go along within a group. It takes great character to oppose the group with whom you occupy.
@MonkeyDelicious
@MonkeyDelicious Ай бұрын
Agreed.
@TheTinyAutistsGuideToTheGalaxy
@TheTinyAutistsGuideToTheGalaxy Ай бұрын
I know you’re right. It will take a long time for his parents to come to terms with their son and his behavior
@joebhlee
@joebhlee Ай бұрын
This kid was cackling like a hyena enjoying watching his friends bullying and harassing a man his father's age. What a coward. All these people live in a small town where they know each other or know someone who does. The Jury was pressured to convict because the family of the dead kid is staring at them with hopes for retribution, and the jury members have to live in that town after the trial is over. There were many things stacked against Miu. He deserves punishment for lying to cops but he was defending himself against a mob of drunken fools who were being violent with him. These kids will have to live with the consequences of their thoughtless actions. Can you imagine going for a job interview after this event? Can you imagine meeting the father of the girl you started dating and the father recognized you as the hooligan who tormented and threatened an old man with the old man going to prison for life by actions you contributed to the tragedy. I would not want to be any of these kids.
@FrauditorsLie
@FrauditorsLie Ай бұрын
And had the nerve to give Miu the evil eye
@markwarren3535
@markwarren3535 Ай бұрын
Well, consider his major - Global Business Leadership He wants to be Klaus Schwabs butt boi.
@Saymira55
@Saymira55 Ай бұрын
Coward for laughing at a weirdo who came to them and grabbing their legs without a word. He thought the kids took his phone. He probably have something dusty in that phone.
@FrauditorsLie
@FrauditorsLie Ай бұрын
@Samirha25 lol he didn't grab their legs. Apparently you haven't been paying attention and are getting your "fact" from YT comments .
@Saymira55
@Saymira55 Ай бұрын
@@FrauditorsLie the juries already decided he is guilty of all charges. Maybe your facts are from KZfaq.
@Felecia300
@Felecia300 Ай бұрын
They assaulted and bullied this man and now they are lieing .
@moneywayypr559
@moneywayypr559 Ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥
@jennycherrington8327
@jennycherrington8327 Ай бұрын
Yep
@matthendricks9666
@matthendricks9666 Ай бұрын
The only victim in this story is Nicolae Miu.
@lakesification
@lakesification Ай бұрын
This guys is seen in the video laughing his ass off as the accused is taunted and swarmed.
@destinyd4320
@destinyd4320 Ай бұрын
Wow! still NO excuse for a grown ass! man gutting a teenager to death! Smh.
@mamag186
@mamag186 Ай бұрын
poor snowflake. charges at teenagers, creeps around, refusing to leave and then has a deadly tantrum when 'teased'
@TV-vg4cd
@TV-vg4cd Ай бұрын
Protecting the guy looking for little girls huh
@GrimpleGromble
@GrimpleGromble Ай бұрын
Okay…… then his friend was killed. The kids were punks but……?
@EFL4952
@EFL4952 Ай бұрын
@@GrimpleGrombleAnd Miu’s story changed up a couple times
@Jaydee71172
@Jaydee71172 Ай бұрын
Why are they all lying?? They are all trying to defend their own stupidity but the video does not corroborate their testimonies.
@HeraclitusThoughtBubbles
@HeraclitusThoughtBubbles Ай бұрын
They are not lying.
@Jaydee71172
@Jaydee71172 Ай бұрын
@@HeraclitusThoughtBubbles Then why is there a discrepancy between what’s on camera and what they describe?
@coolnerdsclothing6377
@coolnerdsclothing6377 Ай бұрын
@@HeraclitusThoughtBubbles yes they are we have eyes we see the video
@jesuschrist1501
@jesuschrist1501 Ай бұрын
they're trying their best to make the video seem like they were in self-defense but the video shows they were all laughing like hyenas and cackling about and pummel nic.
@darlagay2731
@darlagay2731 Ай бұрын
Yeah that's what I was saying they're all acting Innocent but it's on the video Isaac's mom describe how a wonderful child he was but he had his hands around that man's neck and taunted him.
@vladdestroyer5177
@vladdestroyer5177 Ай бұрын
He wasn't crying while him and his gang were terrorizing the old man. Why is he crying now?
@MrMooCow199
@MrMooCow199 Ай бұрын
@38:35 Mr. Vang, "I was scared because it was 9 of us vs 1 of him". *Shows picture of Mr. Vang laughing* Now....if Mr. Vang was scared for being in the group of 9....how does Mr. Mui feel being in the group of 1?
@lavenderlamp
@lavenderlamp Ай бұрын
I believe he is sincere and his tears are real. He and his friends made a string of extremely stupid decisions that resulted in completely avoidable death and injuries. They have to live with Isaac's death for the rest of their lives. He seems like a decent young man with a conscience. He will be haunted by this day forever.
@jamison1280
@jamison1280 Ай бұрын
The old man killed a child and stabbed 4 others. And the old man was the one terrorized?
@DeagleGamesTV
@DeagleGamesTV Ай бұрын
He absolutely is just an innocent victim. this murderer inserted himself in that situation refused to leave them alone when asked multiple times and swung first on a girl no less. then when he got jumped for it he "felt threatened" gutted a guy and stabbed 4 more for no reason. one of the little girls he stabbed didnt even know what was going on and had her back to him at the time.
@darlagay2731
@darlagay2731 Ай бұрын
@@jamison1280 they were all ganging up on him....did you see the video these "children" antagonized and hit this man...are you for real??? He will get off on self defense.
@Bshiddy
@Bshiddy Ай бұрын
Definitely dont want that kid as a global leader.
@carmenolivieri8949
@carmenolivieri8949 Ай бұрын
This man is not a maniac. This was self defense...hope the jury can see past their lies. And this kid's a liar. I think we can all see this.
@KrazyWorldWars
@KrazyWorldWars Ай бұрын
💯
@mrx2586
@mrx2586 26 күн бұрын
No we cant "all see this" the suggestion that multiple witnesses from 2 separate groups are all lying about the exact same thing is beyond absurd.
@kayladavis7140
@kayladavis7140 Ай бұрын
This is why I avoid all confrontation. You never know peoples intentions.
@silvergarcia9897
@silvergarcia9897 Ай бұрын
Not even intentions, I doubt anyone involved wanted this. But yeah no one knows where strangers are mentally or how stable they are to be confronted with everything that happened here
@YwjpheejYaj-zc7lm
@YwjpheejYaj-zc7lm Ай бұрын
Always arm yourself wherever you go in America. This is not a great country. This is the land of all kind of killer
@emilyklitzke931
@emilyklitzke931 Ай бұрын
That is the verdict
@lexrown5fine5t
@lexrown5fine5t Ай бұрын
Facts
@anastaiber952
@anastaiber952 Ай бұрын
Nowadays is best to ignore and walk away; as respectful conversations for resolution.....a thing of the past. PEACE and blessings 🌺.
@SandraGarcia-vz1fr
@SandraGarcia-vz1fr Ай бұрын
Am I the only one who actually saw how the 'kids" were behaving
@maanmohammad8459
@maanmohammad8459 Ай бұрын
Yeh "college kids"😂😂
@imalwaysrite123
@imalwaysrite123 Ай бұрын
No your not they just hate men so they feel they should ignore the facts that these drunks were underage to have alcohol and were clearly under the influence and dud infact disturb the man's peace commuted assault and disorderly conduct & all are lying about the hard liquor they were all drinking it!! The man was mobbed snd attacked a d had every right to defend himself. None of them are innocent and the mam is only someone who lawfully defended himself at best they got him for use of a nife as a deadly weapon nothing more. He should counter sue.
@susanwoywood6334
@susanwoywood6334 Ай бұрын
I saw it too! Mr. Miu is not guilty!
@greenlantern129
@greenlantern129 Ай бұрын
they were literally all drunk and high
@florentinamcleod4159
@florentinamcleod4159 Ай бұрын
In that state every young is a victim or they know how to act like victims! Idk why the Asian dude he keep saying blonde white lady
@Ryanhinchcliff
@Ryanhinchcliff Ай бұрын
This is the guy who was laughing in the video now hes playing the victim
@purringc5552
@purringc5552 Ай бұрын
Everybody remembers him hitting her...just none of the details right before, during, or after. 🤯
@jovanalmen8660
@jovanalmen8660 Ай бұрын
Right! No police photos of her face, no testimony from her, and no evidence that she ever went down. Her hair was dry and she didn't drop her phone or beer. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure ANY of these jerks ever dropped their beers. Maybe they should do a commercial...Beer so good, you just can't put it down...not when you're scared...not when you're assaulting someone...not even when your friend is bleeding out.
@kaitlinbeste
@kaitlinbeste Ай бұрын
That's bc the girl used the men around her to get back at the guy for standing his ground
@kaitlinbeste
@kaitlinbeste Ай бұрын
@@jovanalmen8660omg that is so crass but so on point
@berlin990
@berlin990 Ай бұрын
He was holding the knife already at that point so I very much doubt it was a punch. At most he may have pushed her to get her out of his space and that was all the hyenas needed to justify pouncing, they were looking for a reason to. We’ve all seen obnoxious chicks do this to cause chaos. They get up in a strangers face because they think they can do so without physical consequences and then start a fight, if we look into her background I’m sure she’s done similar things before.
@nealandersen4867
@nealandersen4867 Ай бұрын
​@@jovanalmen8660brilliant
@HexnHammer
@HexnHammer Ай бұрын
They were accusing him of being a sexual predator in a populated area, while ganging up on him verbally, and physically, he had every reason to fear for his life
@moselleconger4156
@moselleconger4156 Ай бұрын
So you get to k*ll me just because you can’t handle someone calling you names? 🤣🤣 He aggressively charged and pushed their tubes even before they were out standing by them…yea he seemed so scared then. He had ample opportunity to leave even when multiple uninvolved groups joined later and asked him to but he chose to stay why? because his lil’ weapon gave him muscles. Thankfully the laws don’t allow you to k*ll someone just because your ego can’t stand a crowd calling you names. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Not only do you have to prove you feared for your life but in the state they live in you have to prove that he acted reasonably. This isn’t a Florida stand your ground state hate to tell ya. The jury will be told by the state to take the fact that the defendant did not retreat into account. Hard to say he acted reasonably if he had the ability to retreat. Doesn’t matter what anyone’s opinion is… the jury has to follow the law by the evidence they are shown and nothing else.
@jackccrofootjr7228
@jackccrofootjr7228 Ай бұрын
Hex, go back and watch the videos... They never ganged up on him physically until he punch a woman 1/2 his size in the face while holding a knife in the same fist that could easily have slliced her face. Are these the actions of a Mature Adult Male who approach them first, therefore he was the cause of all proximate actions that occurred.
@HexnHammer
@HexnHammer Ай бұрын
@@moselleconger4156 a few things. You are being awfully reductionist when saying that this boiled down to some name-calling. Jerk, asshole, fuck face, do not bear the same social, weight, and stigma, nor encourage the same emotional response to those hearing it as pedophile, rapist, child, predator, on a public beach, attended by children with their parents. To pretend these names are comparable in anyway is bad faith. Number two standing in a body of water and retreating while in a body of water is much harder and riskier than retreating on dryland have you ever attempted to run in water have you ever attempted to walk quickly in water? I would argue that under the circumstances it was not reasonable to believe he could retreat with a reasonable level of safety, while maintaining the ability to defend himself in the event, someone decided to attack him. This is evidence by the many times people in this situation fell where they may not have had they been on dryland. The man was called names that he could reasonably believe would cause not only his direct aggressors to aggress further towards him but also now the entire public beach unlike Hattie been called a jerk or a motherfucker.
@libbygenxmum
@libbygenxmum Ай бұрын
The only person at fault here is Mr Mui! . He killed another person, Period
@elyuriostegui8982
@elyuriostegui8982 Ай бұрын
If your son was the one who died you wouldn't think the same.🤦🏻‍♀️
@smurf902
@smurf902 Ай бұрын
I want to watch this objectively but I just can't take the lying they're doing. Just be truthful. We were acting like idiots for no reason. They had no reason to start anything with that man except that they were drunk and high and felt like causing problems for "fun." They weren't scared of him.
@fatee5069
@fatee5069 Ай бұрын
They never said they were scared. They said he was acting weird. They could call him pedo, gay, fag, whatever. Doesn't give him the right to stab them.
@darkwingduck3477
@darkwingduck3477 Ай бұрын
Yep and the jury is going to see it. If he really did punch that girl they need to be completely honest about everything or the jury won't buy it.
@clutchboi4038
@clutchboi4038 Ай бұрын
Yea because someone walking up to their groups and assaulting them is not a reason and it means THEY started it 🙄 give me a fuckin break.
@clutchboi4038
@clutchboi4038 Ай бұрын
Oh and Mui was so afraid for his life that he brandished his knife while smiling in anticipation of stabbing them after literally inserting himself into their group and assaulting them. Yep that's definitely what a fearful person does.
@elpapito7809
@elpapito7809 Ай бұрын
Because Mui isn’t lying ?
@matthewbrooks1556
@matthewbrooks1556 Ай бұрын
A bunch of drunk teenagers were supposedly scared of some older guy? That sounds like a lie.
@LadyDazzleDance
@LadyDazzleDance Ай бұрын
Yup
@HeraclitusThoughtBubbles
@HeraclitusThoughtBubbles Ай бұрын
Well. They should’ve been scared he was a dangerous person.
@Dots8
@Dots8 Ай бұрын
You weren’t there so stfu!
@Malenia_BladeOfMiquella
@Malenia_BladeOfMiquella Ай бұрын
Doesn't look scared to me when they were mocking, pushing and hitting him while down on the water.
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 14 күн бұрын
@@Malenia_BladeOfMiquella All while laughing manically.
@carama3590
@carama3590 Ай бұрын
You shouldn’t have taunted called him a rapist surrounded him, taunting him some more when he was just trying to enjoy a peaceful day. In nature, you should’ve been excessive drinking no manners empathy nothing that’s what these kids shouldn’t have been doing nice parenting.
@jasonkolo
@jasonkolo Ай бұрын
These kids wanted trouble and found it.
@PamelaTaylor
@PamelaTaylor Ай бұрын
They Just Didnt no What Type
@Paul-fq4mm
@Paul-fq4mm Ай бұрын
Yep, and I hope the jury sees this. These guys are adults now want to be betrayed as scared little kids. Hope common sense prevails here.
@CalmDownClown
@CalmDownClown Ай бұрын
they wanted a Viral Video
@CHELSEABuckhannon
@CHELSEABuckhannon Ай бұрын
Yep Jason you hit it on the nail
@me-xx2gl
@me-xx2gl Ай бұрын
Guy could have just walked away, especially after the lady got after him.
@cdelane3335
@cdelane3335 Ай бұрын
Why didn't they just let him look for the phone and go about his business? All this was so unnecessary.
@Karaunicorn
@Karaunicorn Ай бұрын
Because they thought they were intitled to mess with a stranger they considered an easy mark who had the balls to defend himself!!!
@refrigerator_mama
@refrigerator_mama Ай бұрын
Absolutely! They pushed that ole man too far.. bet they don't bully anyone else
@barbiedoll5766
@barbiedoll5766 Ай бұрын
Still, what he did to them seems was not necessary. IMO.
@pdaddyg6846
@pdaddyg6846 Ай бұрын
@@refrigerator_mama can't stab someone to death for what occurred there, he escalated, and then left the scene, put on a disguise, and lied to the police, he knew what he did was wrong and way overboard
@broadsword310
@broadsword310 Ай бұрын
Because he thought these boys stole his phone and he was all up in their space.
@hemlock4519
@hemlock4519 Ай бұрын
This kid hasn’t learned a thing after what happened. He really sees himself as a completely innocent “survivor”. Sick
@user-yj2xl9hp7z
@user-yj2xl9hp7z Ай бұрын
That’s the whole problem with these groomers, multi domination sexes worthless generation
@DeagleGamesTV
@DeagleGamesTV Ай бұрын
He absolutely is just an innocent victim. this murderer inserted himself in that situation refused to leave them alone when asked multiple times and swung first on a girl no less. then when he got jumped for it he "felt threatened" gutted a guy and stabbed 4 more for no reason. one of the little girls he stabbed didnt even know what was going on and had her back to him at the time.
@mystriddlery
@mystriddlery Ай бұрын
@@DeagleGamesTV These kids got their friend killed by putting an old man in a self defense position. Id do the same to you if you were hitting me with your friends while Im on my back in the water.
@stoptheviolence3358
@stoptheviolence3358 Ай бұрын
Nowhere in the video does it show a girl was hit and the man was looking for a phone and they stared bullying him. You clearly haven’t. Seen the whole video
@user-mk5dj3bk5q
@user-mk5dj3bk5q Ай бұрын
The girls absolutely touched him 1st.
@D4MI0N
@D4MI0N Ай бұрын
Why are we calling offenders victims?
@gregorioeduardo
@gregorioeduardo Ай бұрын
Because at the time of the trial he was not yet found guilty. Yeah, that little detail of "guilty UNTIL proven innocent" even applies to those that "apparently" have commit murder. We don't use vigilante justice from to declare people guilty. That's what justice means for everyone, including the perps.
@D4MI0N
@D4MI0N Ай бұрын
@@gregorioeduardo So then, if he hasn't yet been found guilty, there are yet, no victims...
@coolnerdsclothing6377
@coolnerdsclothing6377 Ай бұрын
@@D4MI0N the older man is the victim the kids are the problem
@ladymuck2151
@ladymuck2151 Ай бұрын
Some people think that teens (children) can do no wrong. That’s why the US is in the state it is in. So the fact that this mob mentality of vile little thugs who in my opinion f**ked around and found out, is ok with a lot of people…..but what I’m actually seeing is that there are many people saying these kids are bullies and hope Miu gets off because they feel the same as me. SELF DEFENCE!
@Synoopy2
@Synoopy2 Ай бұрын
@@ladymuck2151 Blah Blah Blah.
@tylerstamps2786
@tylerstamps2786 Ай бұрын
“Some adults came by to help” hate to break it to you dude but you are an adult and you should probably start acting like one.
@georgemonde8237
@georgemonde8237 Ай бұрын
He was acting like one but they were attacking him are you fking blind?
@sarahrean7174
@sarahrean7174 Ай бұрын
NO AN HUMAN BRAIN IS FULLY DEVELOPED AT 25 ONLY SCIENCE!
@brooklynwilliams9984
@brooklynwilliams9984 Ай бұрын
tell that to the dude who went crazy and murdered and then disemboweled someone 💀
@adriennem7927
@adriennem7927 Ай бұрын
They were 16, 17. You got kids!!!!
@adamburgins441
@adamburgins441 Ай бұрын
Yessss
@Fun.Guy.Forager
@Fun.Guy.Forager Ай бұрын
These kids went in looking like they will get justified justice for their friend but completely destroyed and squirming from the questions and nothing adds up on all of their stories.
@anopoabednego6173
@anopoabednego6173 Ай бұрын
Because they're doing this thing called, LYING. They're punks, and liars. Period. This kid certainly shouldn't be studying "leadership" of anything. He is 2nd most at fault for getting his friends stabbed.
@garystevens8598
@garystevens8598 Ай бұрын
Looks like the killer told more lies than all of the kids combined...
@MistyMtnMan
@MistyMtnMan Ай бұрын
Nothing adds up what have you been watching? Honestly. It's all consistent. They all say Mui approached them first, was not responding to anything. He grabbed their stuff first. He wasn't talking, acting creepy. Mui admits to drinking all day. He was drunk and wanted a confrontation. He came all the way down to them and ran up and grabbed them first. He never said what he was doing or what he needed. Everything adds up. This guy was annoyed by them, chose to stick around a hostile situation that lead to someone being killed.
@MarkHutchinson-ry9sz
@MarkHutchinson-ry9sz Ай бұрын
Exactly.A sociopath - with the potential to kill when his buttons are pressed.
@amyfinn1426
@amyfinn1426 Ай бұрын
Well they sure as hell got their justice! Unanimous jury vote of GUILTY. They didn't STAB him, he is the one that turned this thing deadly. He should have just walked away. Also why didn't any of Miu's group come to his aid if he was in "danger"? I find this very interesting.
@flam7307
@flam7307 Ай бұрын
He was “scared” as they taunted, pushed, and hit him? 🤔🙄
@RealtalkManc
@RealtalkManc Ай бұрын
I want to take you for dinner and talk about it ? When are you free ? 😂
@mspinkytee
@mspinkytee Ай бұрын
No one from his group pushed him.
@Eskay94
@Eskay94 Ай бұрын
These kids where all coached by there lawyers before they even got to court that day. “I was very scared” as his friends punched him tossed him around and circled around him
@Eskay94
@Eskay94 Ай бұрын
@@mspinkyteeyour either dumb, stupid, or blind.
@rowenramnath2016
@rowenramnath2016 Ай бұрын
He's from the city. I wish he wasn't involved too
@Stinkycheeseman17
@Stinkycheeseman17 Ай бұрын
When they show him smiling and laughing and taunting this guy… and he tries to say he felt terrified…. SELF DEFENSE bro.
@jatz1111
@jatz1111 Ай бұрын
I believe it was a misinterpretation... the boys weren't there for drama. Mui's was in their personal space... looking for'little jewels'! But shouldn't have been in their space or behaviour as he did.
@sfsf6768
@sfsf6768 Ай бұрын
@@jatz1111 men. Drunk and high men. In a mob. 13 against 1. Lying about him, kicking him, insulting him, slapping him and pushing him. Those men and women don’t own the river. They had no authority to tell him where he could and couldn’t be. They should have minded their own business, not instigated and carried out violence. Then none of this would have happened.
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 21 күн бұрын
@@jatz1111 The "boys" were there for a viral video harrassing and older man 100%. "For the Culture"
@IsusHristosDomnul
@IsusHristosDomnul Ай бұрын
These losers, wanna be tough guys deserve to go to jail for bullying, defaming and assault on that man. Period! They ought to be held responsible for what happened!
@alyssakujawski2947
@alyssakujawski2947 Ай бұрын
man couldn’t hold himself back from taunting teenagers. If a grown man punched a woman in the face bc of that ALONE. he is a threat to society.
@rockstarofredondo
@rockstarofredondo Ай бұрын
@@alyssakujawski2947😂😂😂 your imagination is wild!
@GoodGollyMissMolly763
@GoodGollyMissMolly763 Ай бұрын
Wth?
@alyssakujawski2947
@alyssakujawski2947 Ай бұрын
@@rockstarofredondo considering you clearly know nothing about this case (from ur other comment under mine) i’m just gonna say you’re delusional!
@kamivenus753
@kamivenus753 Ай бұрын
​@rockstarofredondo right? He imagined a whole scenario lol
@JonDeth
@JonDeth Ай бұрын
*They're more to blame than Miu.* Miu is about 15% at fault, but they're at 85. The girls shoved Miu before he touched any of them. They shoved him then put their hands on his chest and arm 3 times. After that, the boys attacked him and there's no video evidence he struck the girl, and if he did, it was still after the girls had shoved him and he was verbally humiliated in a very public manner. Locking him up for murder is going too far. I understand accountability, but the kids are to blame more than he is, and so are their parents for buying minors alcohol and watching them get shit faced.
@kipkapper3014
@kipkapper3014 Ай бұрын
mui is 100 percent at fault. what the heck is wrong with people's perceptive abilities. scary we have humans out and about with very low street smarts and very poor situational awareness. this man wanted to inflict damage, period.
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 Ай бұрын
​@@kipkapper3014nawww, watch the video
@shanstacy3609
@shanstacy3609 Ай бұрын
You don't stab people over public humiliation or words; or for getting punched, for that matter
@JonDeth
@JonDeth Ай бұрын
@@shanstacy3609 he stabbed in self defense. It's not legal for them to assault him. If he did slap Madison which the video completely disproves and Tony Carlson testified admitting he knows Miu never hit her at all, it's still a crime for them to launch an attack from all sides. If it were true, they were obligated to call the police. *Instead, you see a video of them all roaring with laughter, attacking him and having a lot of fun doing it, and you see Miu isn't having fun at all!* He was justified in using the knife against multiple attackers and had he been someone like an off duty cop, they would have all been arrested instead of him. They were all stoned illegally, the teenagers drunk illegally and had they all been charged and convicted for this as they should have been 2 years ago, those convictions would have been brought up in court and the case never would have gotten off the ground! You people posing these arguments are corrupt morons. What they did was a crime, PERIOD. His lies and crimes are minor compared to what they did. You think it doesn't count because you are immoral and you yourself break laws. You think it's okay to assault someone in a gang fashion rather than call the police and press charges! *You're a despicable fool.*
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 Ай бұрын
@@shanstacy3609 I would
@Sheila-sv1ly
@Sheila-sv1ly Ай бұрын
This entire group are insanely corrupt. The level of lying and excuses are on another level. This is shocking. His parents must be so proud.
@bonniehairston5827
@bonniehairston5827 Ай бұрын
Defendant paying you?
@dochollywood79
@dochollywood79 Ай бұрын
I hope they all get charged with perjury
@TheYoungestCrone
@TheYoungestCrone Ай бұрын
@@bonniehairston5827 .. this is so weird.. its like those women that fall in love with serial killers or ppl like Chris Watts. No compassion here for the kid who died or the 6 mutilated .. effing weird.
@TheYoungestCrone
@TheYoungestCrone Ай бұрын
@@dochollywood79 ... all u pedos always stick together
@izzypuccino2455
@izzypuccino2455 Ай бұрын
If Miu is innocent, why not call the cops instead of walking away as if nothing had happened? He stabbed five people, one died. He left to go home. As you do.
@katpatterson8827
@katpatterson8827 Ай бұрын
These witnesses have been so coached it's beyond obvious. Prosecution should be ashamed of themselves!
@FrauditorsLie
@FrauditorsLie Ай бұрын
"He approached our tubes and stopped us from carrying on." Totally coached😂😂😂
@ljvue
@ljvue Ай бұрын
This dude is a phony. He was one of the loudest in the video instigating.
@EE-uj6tw
@EE-uj6tw Ай бұрын
Absolutely! Jumping around like an absolute madman
@traceyarnaud8433
@traceyarnaud8433 Ай бұрын
@@EE-uj6tw Exactly! I wonder if they have trouble sleeping at night?
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 Ай бұрын
For the culture, man !
@jethroflicks
@jethroflicks Ай бұрын
@@traceyarnaud8433 I doubt it. He probably hung out that night drinking more, talking crap about how awesome he and his thug friends are. He, like most of the others, will never change their attitudes and actions. Sad case for America and the world.
@GroveEndRoad
@GroveEndRoad Ай бұрын
Right
@100KGNatty
@100KGNatty Ай бұрын
The old man was the real victim.
@GigglingHamster
@GigglingHamster Ай бұрын
These boys killed their friend
@teamghetto2166
@teamghetto2166 Ай бұрын
Naw the two ladies did
@slushlion9805
@slushlion9805 Ай бұрын
Yep. They absolutely did.
@karenbougher1219
@karenbougher1219 Ай бұрын
I agree
@omegahorizon82
@omegahorizon82 Ай бұрын
He had a hand in his own death too. It looks like on video Isaac was the one to push Nico down initially. We never see the fatal blow delivered to Issac. Who knows what happened there. He definitely had to be face to face, That would be consistent with the wound description. But like I said who knows.
@shannonk.1172
@shannonk.1172 Ай бұрын
Who the hell do you think you are! You were NOT There. A Male teen got gutted In front of many- so Find a new cause
@moochythecat3435
@moochythecat3435 Ай бұрын
They attacked the guy.. the guy defended himself with a knife....
@mireyarodriguez4490
@mireyarodriguez4490 Ай бұрын
The video is evidence the teens provoked this tragedy
@captpain1
@captpain1 Ай бұрын
I never saw anyone injured or die from words. Video appears to show someone's feelings being injured that's what I saw.
@randyrenner7643
@randyrenner7643 Ай бұрын
​@@captpain1you didn't watch the video or saw what you wanted to see after already making up your mind.
@captpain1
@captpain1 Ай бұрын
@randyrenner7643 so you disagree with people's hurt feelings don't equate to injury or death. Strange sense of reasoning.
@hahawoshedman4017
@hahawoshedman4017 Ай бұрын
@@captpain1 Thats all it was until the teens turned it physical. Clearly they escalated this. They made their bed, and now they must lie in it.
@megan1445
@megan1445 Ай бұрын
​@@captpain1 Being shoved in water and hit about is a tad bit more than hurt feelings lol
@tammyvolpe6250
@tammyvolpe6250 Ай бұрын
The claim they made about the little girl comment doesn’t even make sense. And the defendant was sober. They were smoking weed and drinking
@aostrosky
@aostrosky Ай бұрын
Even if it was said, its irrelevant, imo
@robd5254
@robd5254 Ай бұрын
He was calling them little girls!
@jamesbroomfield7799
@jamesbroomfield7799 Ай бұрын
Defendant was drinking too stop with the false information. 98 percent of the ppl on the river were drinking
@justaguy-69
@justaguy-69 Ай бұрын
the false accusations were to turn any onlookers against the man in preparation for their attack. its called gaslighting and kids learn it from social media.
@CalamityJ765
@CalamityJ765 Ай бұрын
I think the video guy just made that up to create chaos for his tik tok video. I think he did the same with making the comment about him “hitting a woman”. He wanted the most bang he could possibly have and got his friend killed and 4 strangers wounded.
@flam7307
@flam7307 Ай бұрын
100% avoidable. Hopefully people who like provoking others will see this, and change their ways. A “mob” of drunk and high people would be terrifying to me
@flam7307
@flam7307 Ай бұрын
@taramcgavan7654obviously it did Tara…he was terrified enough to protect himself… “get real” 🤦🏼‍♀️
@virtualbeing5195
@virtualbeing5195 Ай бұрын
The substances increased their behavior but I think they would've likely done this anyway. They were coordinated enough to punch and kick him, while one held a camera to it.
@OhioVworld
@OhioVworld Ай бұрын
@taramcgavan7654Yes, no one scared ever defended themselves- genius!
@tammyvickers7779
@tammyvickers7779 Ай бұрын
These teens and their parents should be embarrassed and held liable for the death of that 17 year old.
@Sheriff_GrimLaw
@Sheriff_GrimLaw Ай бұрын
Why should their parents be liable for the lad dying? Ridiculous.
@InaMurayo
@InaMurayo Ай бұрын
​@@Sheriff_GrimLawNot Legally Liable BUT Definitely Morally Liable / Responsible.
@Remss777
@Remss777 Ай бұрын
@@Sheriff_GrimLawfor bringing more trash into an already filthy world.
@RyanNicholas33
@RyanNicholas33 Ай бұрын
⁠@@Sheriff_GrimLawit’s a slippery slope to be sure, but seeing as they charge school shooters’ parents with criminal charges i feel like this isn’t that different. Parental negligence of their children led to someone’s death all the same. But I agree with this is ridiculous.
@cristineconnell7803
@cristineconnell7803 Ай бұрын
​@@InaMurayoTotally disagree! Words do not equal murder! Nic was going for kill shots as he gutted those kids! He acted creepy, then proved he was a creep! Then tried to hide & lie to police! Not the actions of self defense by any means!
@user-vd9mz5pf7u
@user-vd9mz5pf7u Ай бұрын
Watch the video, these punk drunk kids attacked this man, he defended himself - End of story.
@pjt759
@pjt759 Ай бұрын
I hope the jury feels this way
@pdaddyg6846
@pdaddyg6846 Ай бұрын
@@pjt759 they won't......because Rambo is guilty
@martinaportillo8837
@martinaportillo8837 Ай бұрын
A young man is stabbed to death by a man with a hidden knife. Names don’t cause you to bleed to death
@user-vd9mz5pf7u
@user-vd9mz5pf7u Ай бұрын
@@martinaportillo8837 watch the video, they attacked him. If you have no clue what your talking about, it’s good to keep quiet 🤐
@SteveV2023
@SteveV2023 Ай бұрын
Attacked???? How exactly did they "Attack" him?? Did they have weapons?? NO!!! He was the adult and could have walked away!! Don't be so damn STUPID!!!
@MrJonesy2121
@MrJonesy2121 Ай бұрын
They started calling the guy a pedophile. They never met the guy in their life. He was looking for his phone. And these guys were drunk teenagers and they gang packed them harassed them both physically and emotionally. What did they expect was gonna happen?
@christophermills435
@christophermills435 Ай бұрын
So you get called a pedophile and that gives you the right to start trying to kill people? The man started this, this wouldn’t have happened if he didn’t punch that girl and just walked away
@destinyd4320
@destinyd4320 Ай бұрын
So you think it's OK to gut people with a knife! Smh.
@destinyd4320
@destinyd4320 Ай бұрын
Bet you'd be singing a different tune if it was your son who was gutted! to death. Smh.
@destinyd4320
@destinyd4320 Ай бұрын
They didn't expect a grown ass! man to resort to taking things to the extreme & using a knife! with the intent to inflict serious harm/ damage & death! Smh.
@reptoidfancy666
@reptoidfancy666 Ай бұрын
Are you a bot? You really think it's okay to stab someone if they call you a pedophile? Is it also okay to shoot to kill they call you a pedophile? Where does it say in united states law that you can do that anywhere?
@NonContentMakerZ3
@NonContentMakerZ3 Ай бұрын
So HE should leave and END the commotion? Excuse me, but it was the "teens" who was responsible for the commotion. Doesn't anyone of these brats have any common sense?
@Guiu-fo6tv
@Guiu-fo6tv Ай бұрын
He made a complete fool of himself andnknows it. Hes the only one of the witnesses thus far who has shown any type of shame for his actions.
@Guiu-fo6tv
@Guiu-fo6tv Ай бұрын
@user-tr8fs7lm8r if his family's traditional in that cultural aspect likely so. I hope though that his family choose to lend him grace. I'm 36 now. But boy... at 17? I can't say my behavior would have been better if I were part of that type of group. (By type of group I mean the type who weren't afraid to drink in public underage, and were the type to find certain topics funny). I recall being more like Maddie- especially in my early 20s. Very much ready to defend some kids from a perv. Ready to step in to fix the "wrong".
@briannatarelli430
@briannatarelli430 Ай бұрын
And jury can see that all day long. Him not admitting obvious truths only helps Nicolae.
@willfade7994
@willfade7994 Ай бұрын
At least Alexander Vang knew what to do when he saw his friend was badly wounded and he jumped to action, unlike the guy who just stood there and kept filming.
@OrtegaSauce
@OrtegaSauce Ай бұрын
Don't be mad at him. He had to make sure everything was recording instead of you know, calling the police or something. You heard him in the beginning, "For the culture!"
@FUCK_ALL_YOUTUBE_MODERATORS
@FUCK_ALL_YOUTUBE_MODERATORS Ай бұрын
one typically becomes a doctor and the other is typically mockingly called a doctor. you figure out which one is which
@KhaoShung
@KhaoShung Ай бұрын
@@OrtegaSauce "WOOOORLD STAAAAAAAAAAAAR"
@mightguy123456
@mightguy123456 Ай бұрын
The filming is the entirety of this trial’s evidence may I remind you: eye witness testimony (especially when it’s a bunch of drunk teens) isn’t the most reliable. According to the autopsy Isaac’s wound was immediately fatal-so what exactly are you thinking the videoer should’ve done? I’m sick of people that have clearly never been in a volatile conflict comment on what people should have done in hindsight. Stop victim shaming.
@mrnpc5850
@mrnpc5850 Ай бұрын
@@mightguy123456there’s no victims in this case buddy just the man on trial
@ricksomething
@ricksomething Ай бұрын
The only victim is the man on trial.
@bobbipearcey2059
@bobbipearcey2059 Ай бұрын
So you watched THE WHOLE VIDEO 🤔🤔 An INNOCENT bystander walks up to tell HIM to leave the kids alone …she is NOT in the group of kids …and HE STABS HER FIRST …of all the kids stabbed …he STABBED HER FIRST
@nikkingman
@nikkingman Ай бұрын
​@@bobbipearcey2059don't start fights you can't win. Stay in the kitchen.
@metal.and.things7229
@metal.and.things7229 Ай бұрын
​@@bobbipearcey2059 no one seems to be paying attention to the fact the the old dude stabbed someone BEFORE the teens started beating him. They beat him because he was stabbing people
@bobbipearcey2059
@bobbipearcey2059 Ай бұрын
@@metal.and.things7229 I know …it boggles my mind that people comment … when they haven’t even watched the trial … Can you imagine these people as jurors 🤔 The man snapped .. he was so consumed with his rage that he could t walk away .. And THEN he LIED ….stating that the knife belonged to the kids .. I can imaging if there wasn’t a recording the trial would have been TOTALLY DIFFERENT …the way these people are commenting …they would have believed HIM 🤦‍♀️🇨🇦
@rosalielarsen1
@rosalielarsen1 Ай бұрын
He was a grown man. He had every opportunity to walk away but he pulls a knife and starts slashing kids. Kids were being kids. Not perfect but few are. No reason for a mature man to start a killing spree.
@5GreenAcres
@5GreenAcres Ай бұрын
Not guilty. Self defense against an angry punk disrespectful mob. Who did it "for the culture."
@Atcraftcity
@Atcraftcity Ай бұрын
Getting emotional isn't gonna cut it. Mobs of teens going after 1 older man is disgusting!!
@martinaportillo8837
@martinaportillo8837 Ай бұрын
Older guy with a hidden knife
@rockstarofredondo
@rockstarofredondo Ай бұрын
@@martinaportillo8837so what?😂
@Beastmode42
@Beastmode42 Ай бұрын
Older guy that punches a little girl after stopping their group with a hidden knife
@justaguy-69
@justaguy-69 Ай бұрын
especially since he threw the first sucker punch when the old guy was on his back.
@ghostgracechillr9091
@ghostgracechillr9091 Ай бұрын
Laugh now cry later . . .
@JustAohkay
@JustAohkay Ай бұрын
Do you mean marijuana? Yes please😂
@gnrbabe9605
@gnrbabe9605 Ай бұрын
I laughed out loud lol not expecting that 😅
@BlueBerryBronzer
@BlueBerryBronzer Ай бұрын
What’s the time stamp on that
@JustAohkay
@JustAohkay Ай бұрын
3:00
@sailasimone6175
@sailasimone6175 Ай бұрын
@@JustAohkay, I missed that the first time!....LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
@beeeazy9818
@beeeazy9818 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@devdevelo
@devdevelo Ай бұрын
"He slapped her to the ground." Details "not processed" include: 1. She was not slapped. 2. She did not fall. This guy is a huge liar and bully. Shameful.
@mrx2586
@mrx2586 26 күн бұрын
have you got any evidence to support that claim?
@feddavandermolen-quest8388
@feddavandermolen-quest8388 Ай бұрын
This is a good example of, how over time, your memory adjust to the story you want to have happened.
@sfsf6768
@sfsf6768 Ай бұрын
True but not in this case. Their memory is not changing. They are simply lying.
@user-un5lq8fp2i
@user-un5lq8fp2i Ай бұрын
i wonder how this guy sleeps at night knowing he’s responsible for getting his friend killed? If he never started with that man minding his business, his friend would still be alive.
@9lkkjjiujjiuuu
@9lkkjjiujjiuuu Ай бұрын
Not well I'm sure
@KhaoShung
@KhaoShung Ай бұрын
@@9lkkjjiujjiuuu lesson leanerd i would say
@Stinkycheeseman17
@Stinkycheeseman17 Ай бұрын
Yep exactly 👏🏾
@olafjans
@olafjans Ай бұрын
Responsible, because he wanted to have a friendly chat with a random stranger? The only one responsible for his death is Isaac himself, no one else.
@XeThao-zy5op
@XeThao-zy5op Ай бұрын
Yep blame the Asian like usual
@sheilastultz1633
@sheilastultz1633 Ай бұрын
My daughter and friends were there that day. I saw it on the scanner and went into a panic.i could barely get to my contacts to. Call her I was shaking so bad. Thank God she answered right away. I was whispering on the phone asking where she was, thinking she was hiding. They were already just getting back to their car. I told her to get in and lock the doors and leave immediately. She didn't know what was going on and when I told her she said that must be why the cops and ambulances were coming in. She said the group on the tube were drunk and being obnoxious.
@anastaiber952
@anastaiber952 Ай бұрын
HELLO 🌺. I hope your daughter is ok and strong to overcome such sad memories🙏🌺
@BlackStump172
@BlackStump172 Ай бұрын
I am glad that she was okay . You would have been terrified . 🌸
@sarahrean7174
@sarahrean7174 Ай бұрын
😒🙄👀
@mikefingerbottom2669
@mikefingerbottom2669 Ай бұрын
the local media completely misrepresented the story, sensationalizing it as a "stabbing spree", given the number of active shooters we have in this country I can see why you would have become so fearful
@kpac3089
@kpac3089 Ай бұрын
​@@mikefingerbottom2669 Local media sensationalizes events to gain as large an audience as possible and stir emotions. There are no news services nowadays. Feelings over facts are promoted. Rushing to judgment over what is said in local media is to be led by the nose. There is always more to the story than a few sentences in a post can cover or a couple of minutes of a media program can show, even with the best of intentions.
@beatriz9376
@beatriz9376 Ай бұрын
These bullies should all be arrested and charged with battery.
@stevemtc1
@stevemtc1 Ай бұрын
They should be charged with manslaughter
@WES_5150
@WES_5150 Ай бұрын
These kids life of horror had only just begun, and they brought it on themselves.
@MrJonesy2121
@MrJonesy2121 Ай бұрын
There was only one victim and that was the guy that these pack of dogs went after.
@InfiniteZombies777
@InfiniteZombies777 Ай бұрын
The teens literally didn’t harm Miu at all
@sfsf6768
@sfsf6768 Ай бұрын
@@InfiniteZombies777 They literally did. And there were grown ass men involved, not innocent little angels.
@InfiniteZombies777
@InfiniteZombies777 Ай бұрын
@@sfsf6768no they literally didn’t! The adults harmed him. The only teen who even touched him is the one he killed and that teen lightly pushed him. Not to mention Miu started the whole thing by PUNCHING a girl. So glad he’s going to jail! 🙂
@sfsf6768
@sfsf6768 Ай бұрын
@@InfiniteZombies777 Yes they literally did. Blue shorts admitted in court when shown the video that he punched him 3 times. Yellow shorts peacemaker shoved his back keeping him in the water as blue shorts punched from the front, side and back. The hyenas surrounded him laughing and mocking, enjoying every minute. There was no evidence that he punched drunk busybody Karen. Infamous video narrator instigated this tragedy by lying that he was a ‘raper’ and ‘looking for little girls’ and egged the other grown men to join in. He escaped unscathed. Low IQs filled with arrogance, liquor and weed (who knows what else) caused this completely avoidable incident and they got away with it, emboldening them to do it all again. When dressed in court, we all saw they are some low class men, and very unsurprisingly, very bad at lying.
@grunt9131
@grunt9131 Ай бұрын
Seems to me a bunch of drunk and high kids were bullying and calling the dude a pedo and surrounding him and assaulting him. Huge lesson for these kids and young adults that people will not allow you to do whatever you want to them. Bearing false witness is certainly how this started with the evidence ive seen. Its horrible that someone died in order for this lesson to be learned.
@MrOBJECTIVEOBSERVER
@MrOBJECTIVEOBSERVER Ай бұрын
ok but what you're describing is retaliation not self-defense. Dude is definitely guilty
@michaeltuffin5002
@michaeltuffin5002 Ай бұрын
@@MrOBJECTIVEOBSERVER. true…. I’m against these kids and I can feel the old man’s plight but the multiple stabbings is something else..
@user-yj2xl9hp7z
@user-yj2xl9hp7z Ай бұрын
@michaeld.4521
@michaeld.4521 Ай бұрын
They didn't assault him.
@melaniaarnett1755
@melaniaarnett1755 Ай бұрын
words versus weapons. He came into the water, he initaiated the violence. You are sick
@sandyadams7409
@sandyadams7409 Ай бұрын
This is exactly why I helped raised my younger siblings not to provoke or bully people because tragedies like this can happen within seconds
@TheElokim
@TheElokim Ай бұрын
Best ancient wisdom right here!! What has happened with the youth is terrible. Pervasive increase of narcissism NPD - poison dart ruins the VMAT2 gene. Terrible consequences of all involved. Thank you Gov't schools and big pharma. Only in USA. Why?
@vkapoor69
@vkapoor69 Ай бұрын
A 52 year old shouldn't start chasing and stabbing people with a knife when provoked. Its no excuse for killing people.
@cristineconnell7803
@cristineconnell7803 Ай бұрын
Was in similar situations floating local river years ago. Teens started calling the creepy guy pedo, etc & was able to get him to move away! It also alerted others down river who then had similar experience with the guy! What didn't happen was him charging them, grabbing their tubes & ultimately stabbing & killing!
@Shayne_T
@Shayne_T Ай бұрын
@@vkapoor69that’s not what happened. He was so calm and they were psycho and loud! Hitting him! He reacted. We don’t know how someone will react in those situations, people have PTSD and other trauma.
@Shayne_T
@Shayne_T Ай бұрын
@@cristineconnell7803he didn’t grab their tubes, he was looking for his phone. Do you know what mature boys and girls would do.. “hey man, are you looking for something, can we help? They bullied and abused instead.” If you can watch that full video and think that he was the creepy one, you need major help. They were creepy and disturbing, taunting him! Normal and compassionate people can see how it ended the way it did. And don’t tell me normal and compassionate people don’t stab in self defense-because they do!
@guerillamaddox3574
@guerillamaddox3574 Ай бұрын
It makes me sick that they still have not learned their lesson. They truly believe they were the victims.
@upgrade1015
@upgrade1015 Ай бұрын
I’ve seen worse . As a man if you communicate properly you can mitigate this . As a man you can walk away or at worst handle it with your hands. He has a smirk on his face he knew what he would do if given the opportunity and he gutted 5 killed 1 . Smashed a girl first after approaching their group. He threw a kid off his tube . Yes they taunted him yes they were being obnoxious but I’ll see worse this weekend on any college campus.
@Sam4got
@Sam4got Ай бұрын
@@upgrade1015so it’s ok for the drunk and high bullies to put their HANDS on another. Got it 😂 they got a dose of finding out.
@guerillamaddox3574
@guerillamaddox3574 Ай бұрын
@@upgrade1015 I love how everyone is minimizing these teens actions. They didn't just taunt him. Multiple people from multiple angles were slapping, punching, kicking and pushing him back down in the water like a bunch of heathens and the guy defended himself. He was smiling because of how stupid these young adults were acting. He didn't scream or yell back he was simply trying to find his belongings so he could leave.
@elpapito7809
@elpapito7809 Ай бұрын
@@Sam4gotok what are his injuries ? He receive a punch and 2 slaps, is that a reason to stab and kill ? Clearly not
@briannatarelli430
@briannatarelli430 Ай бұрын
In my experience with human psychology people only learn lessons when they are forced to. I do not understand why he was not charged with any crimes. If Nicolae is found innocent the teenagers should be charged with assault, underage drinking, and with the death of their friend Issac because their actions is what got him killed. Maybe, then, and only then, will they learn a lesson.
@sheilastultz1633
@sheilastultz1633 Ай бұрын
I can tell you that group on the tubes are not all completely innocent
@ElementUup511
@ElementUup511 Ай бұрын
your brain is stupid
@rockstarofredondo
@rockstarofredondo Ай бұрын
They’re not even partially innocent.
@ElementUup511
@ElementUup511 Ай бұрын
@@rockstarofredondo explain that without looking like a complete psychopath who probably fantasizes about doing something similar.
@AzothDee
@AzothDee Ай бұрын
​@@ElementUup511😂 the projection is real. Talking as if you know what the commentator has for breakfast.
@ElementUup511
@ElementUup511 Ай бұрын
@@AzothDee you don't even know what projection is defined as. What does a commentator have to do with anything? Brain dead fool.
@lauralee9440
@lauralee9440 Ай бұрын
These kids are shaking in their boots! They know that screwed up BIG TIME!
@gregj831
@gregj831 Ай бұрын
Where in the hell is this blonde who was the main instigator.
@FrauditorsLie
@FrauditorsLie Ай бұрын
​@@gregj831she didn't want her testimony to be on camera
@ourglass3346
@ourglass3346 Ай бұрын
Gaslighting people into rebellion is wrong. Shame on these teens….
@C_H_U_
@C_H_U_ Ай бұрын
Based on what you said that means you believe Miu and think what he did was right got it.
@ourglass3346
@ourglass3346 Ай бұрын
@@C_H_U_ I was talking specifically to the point that this all never would have happened if these teens weren’t gaslighting everyone around them into a false reality. Certainly the situation was complex, and the adult’s decision to defend themselves was likely justified given the circumstances, under the law. If the teenagers were intentionally provoking the adult and then assaulted him, attempting to distort or deny their actions, it’s exacerbating the situation leading the adult to feel justified in defending themselves against the aggressive behavior of the teenagers. In this context, the manipulation tactics employed by the teenagers may have contributed to the escalation of the confrontation. Gaslighting is the cause in my opinion. Shame
@C_H_U_
@C_H_U_ Ай бұрын
@@ourglass3346 regardless if they hurt this middle age man’s feeling or whatever snowflakes feel nowadays he still used lethal to murder a child who did no threat to him. We’ve seen these cases time and time again. Miu will be found guilty NO MATTER WHAT.
@ourglass3346
@ourglass3346 Ай бұрын
@@C_H_U_ Similar to the rittenhouse case, the legal analysis would depend on various factors, including whether his use of force was reasonable and proportional to the threat he faced as he may argue self-defense for stabbing someone after being assaulted by a group of individuals who were incited by false accusations made by teenagers. Regarding the false accusations made by the teenagers, similar to the trump case, there may be legal implications for their actions, such as charges of defamation or incitement to violence. Additionally, if it can be shown that their false accusations directly led to the assault, this could be a mitigating factor in his defense.
@jayneminto664
@jayneminto664 Ай бұрын
This is a 17.7 stone man who thinks its appropriate to hit a female in the face for calling him names and blame males regardless of their age for reacting. I might add without weapons. Wow, you need a new perspective! rglass3346
@robertjones8598
@robertjones8598 Ай бұрын
None off them told the police that the guy made a comment about little girls and didn’t follow up to provide that info later. But now they testify to it in court 2 years later?! I think this group has colluded to provide this detail, which I think is false and designed to justify their assault on this man who may well not be all there himself.Punks.
@barbjanderson7559
@barbjanderson7559 Ай бұрын
I don't think swearing under oath to tell the truth means much to these guys.
@robertjones8598
@robertjones8598 Ай бұрын
@@barbjanderson7559 nope. I’d be all over that on appeal presuming there’s a conviction. If this tidbit was just introduced, never reported to investigators by any of them after the incident or until recently, it stinks to high heavens of conspiracy among witnesses and perjury. I’d think there would be grounds for a separate investigation on this.
@rockstarofredondo
@rockstarofredondo Ай бұрын
@@barbjanderson7559why should it? They are not receiving consequences for their other crimes, why would they believe they would be charged with perjury?
@Sgt.Wolfhart
@Sgt.Wolfhart Ай бұрын
You know they did that's why they all say short water and don't have their own saying for it. Got almost 10 people saying short water because the one re re trying to get the story straight said it and everyone was so scared it burned into their brain.
@clutchboi4038
@clutchboi4038 Ай бұрын
​@@robertjones8598let's be real you'd just be all over the floor getting your hole pounded by Tyrone in the Shower 😂
@melindatravers6375
@melindatravers6375 Ай бұрын
This group of young people are awfully dumb. You can tell when they are lying and making up things. These young people should have been charged with this young man's death. In the state California if someone dies in the commission of a crime everyone gets charged murder. These young people were assaulting this older man.
@freetob1
@freetob1 Ай бұрын
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@alanboody7004
@alanboody7004 Ай бұрын
Isn't it weird how he suffered no injuries while five people were stabbed: one girl in her SIDE (explain that from a self-defense perspective), another guy was gutted, and the 17-year-old kid was stabbed directly in the heart. Why did he have the knife out well before the teens were even near him when the girls were yelling at him to leave? Why was all the stab wounds done in a way that was more than just a stab, but also were done with jerks that inflicted much more damage?
@Ryanhinchcliff
@Ryanhinchcliff Ай бұрын
Completely agree 👍 💯 percent
@blakeb9964
@blakeb9964 Ай бұрын
Exactly! They should be charged with at least manslaughter, possibly felony murder. This system is a joke.
@mamag186
@mamag186 Ай бұрын
@@alanboody7004 you forgot injury to his fragile ego.
@JRKonungrinn
@JRKonungrinn Ай бұрын
They followed him, pushed him down while surrounding him and yelling at him. It's on the video! Of course he was scared into defending himself. WTF did these psycho kids expect to happen, pulling shit like that?
@misssunshine2234
@misssunshine2234 Ай бұрын
I don’t know what going on in your life but stabbing a kid to death shouldn’t be normal.Kids are kids and adults are grownup.To escalate this situation with a KNIFE is stupid and over the top of everything what we’re seeing in this video.
@JRKonungrinn
@JRKonungrinn Ай бұрын
@@misssunshine2234 Of course it's not normal, but anyone scared into self defense would do it. Did you expect him to just sit there defenseless while they kept screaming and knocking him down? How's he supposed to know they won't kill him eventually? Nobody has to let a mob beat them up just to avoid potentially killing their attackers.
@cara5430
@cara5430 Ай бұрын
​@JRKonungrinn no, we don't expect him to just sit there. We expect him to either walk away or call the police. Since when does getting feelings hurt, justify murder? It doesn't!
@cara5430
@cara5430 Ай бұрын
​@@JRKonungrinn he ran up to them. He could have walked away and said nothing. HE walked up to the teens! Are we watching the same trial?
@JRKonungrinn
@JRKonungrinn Ай бұрын
@@cara5430 He did walk away. Video showed that they followed him & surrounded him in a screaming mob while hitting him & pushing him down into the water. It's completely reasonable for him to fear severe injury or dying from these attackers and defend himself.
@lpmoualm
@lpmoualm Ай бұрын
Alcohol and drugs. Things that escalated the situation
@440-fishermandrock8
@440-fishermandrock8 Ай бұрын
Straightedge nerd 🤓 Weed doesn't make ppl aggressive. It's people that pray on women and children
@agak61
@agak61 Ай бұрын
It always does
@ahmeda.3198
@ahmeda.3198 Ай бұрын
Alcohol destroys lives, out of the blue. Either people behave uncharacteristically or recklessly, or they encounter someone who is behaving that way.
@iturnedintoamartian-cm6nd
@iturnedintoamartian-cm6nd Ай бұрын
No. It just made their already shitty juvenile attitudes worse Plenty of people have wine or a joint and don't pounce on people like hyenas
@johnyhefner
@johnyhefner Ай бұрын
And a black punk instigating the whole thing while filming a video to upload.
@TheBottomoftheabyss
@TheBottomoftheabyss Ай бұрын
Vang should be convicted
@karinatrujillo8437
@karinatrujillo8437 Ай бұрын
Kids?...23 Year old drunk and high against a man....like a hyena pack chasing ... Stup idity is all over the world.
@roostercogburn7243
@roostercogburn7243 Ай бұрын
Multiracialism worked just as intended in America. Unity is gone now.
@Doofyy11
@Doofyy11 Ай бұрын
Go look up the video. Old guy was just minding his business and these snotty teens provoked him
@user-mp4ug4ft6o
@user-mp4ug4ft6o Ай бұрын
How many videos you looked at? 🤔
@clutchboi4038
@clutchboi4038 Ай бұрын
Yes because minding your business means literally swimming up to people and touching them and their belongings. That's the textbook definition of minding your business for sure 🙄. Also he was just minding his business while he stood there brandishing his knife while smiling in anticipation of stabbing them. Yep you're so right.
@lisalentz25
@lisalentz25 Ай бұрын
lol. He changed minding his business real quick. He’s a pos.
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 21 күн бұрын
@@clutchboi4038 Looking for a phone. Some "teens" decide to call you a p@do and a R@per for no reason. Laughing and taunting you for no reason. The joy in Jawhan's voice.
@bethkoop9668
@bethkoop9668 Ай бұрын
It's clear from the video they were taunting this man and egging on a fight. It's a clear case of bullying from a bunch of stoned/drunk teenagers.
@sarahrean7174
@sarahrean7174 Ай бұрын
😒
@outoftime7740
@outoftime7740 Ай бұрын
The man started it by replying with a very sick comment. Looking for little girls. Of course, that comment is going to get serious feedback. When the man could have easily said, "I'm looking for my phone that I lost in here somewhere." This could have all been avoided. The guys that pushed the man into the water was the 2 guys that came with the lady he punched. Punching ladies and looking for little girls. The man started it and he should have ended it, by leaving. You have to be able to take -what you dish out. And not killing some 17 year old teenager, because of it.
@4ank117
@4ank117 Ай бұрын
@@outoftime7740 They baited a seriously mentally ill man into a position where they could bully him. They than proceeded to start physically harming him and shoving his head into the water. It's reasonable to assume your life is in danger in that position. It was wrong he was there to meet a child but vigilantism is illegal for this exact reason. If anyone is a victim it's the guy who stabbed dude. Society clearly abandoned him a long time ago and he's likely been preyed on his whole life.
@kwazimokava6499
@kwazimokava6499 Ай бұрын
​@@outoftime7740oh i just catching up with this case...i didnt realise the boy died...
@outoftime7740
@outoftime7740 Ай бұрын
@4ank117 It didn't happen like that. If the man would have answered decently, the man came to them. The man didn't leave. The man didn't get touched until he punched that lady and started stabbing people. The man wasn't being bullied. They were giving him shit for his sick comment. There is no excuse for stabbing that lady, a man and killing a teenager. The mental dude needs to be locked up for life.
@kelliephoenix
@kelliephoenix Ай бұрын
This boy is not being completely honest.
@sfsf6768
@sfsf6768 Ай бұрын
Man
@bbrcummins1984
@bbrcummins1984 Ай бұрын
A lot of selective memories here
@CHELSEABuckhannon
@CHELSEABuckhannon Ай бұрын
Exactly
@briannatarelli430
@briannatarelli430 Ай бұрын
This kid is a disrespectful bully punk and the jury can see that
@sfsf6768
@sfsf6768 Ай бұрын
Because they aren’t real memories but lies.
@inviz_957
@inviz_957 Ай бұрын
He's studying "Global Business Leadership?" How ironic. And he's definitely lying about the defendant saying he was looking for little girls. Alex is desperately trying to justify his group calling the defendant a "raper" and "pedophile." That's called perjury. Unfortunately, it's NOT in the video, and his group are backing each other up, to absolve their responsibility in what transpired. This witness is NOT a leader in any sense... he's a pathetic follower.
@lilithstribe
@lilithstribe Ай бұрын
100%
@fatee5069
@fatee5069 Ай бұрын
So they just wanted to record a random old man because they were calling him names? That makes sense doesn't it? You know what makes more sense? The old man taunting them by saying he's looking for little girls to a group of boys. Thus leading to them recording because he was being a weirdo.
@yoinky
@yoinky Ай бұрын
​​@@fatee5069how is going around telling ppl you are looking for little girls a taunt? Didn't the old dude have a group like 200ft away? You're saying that it's more plausible that a 51 yo man decided to leave his group and randomly tell a group of college adults that he likes little girls than it is for a 51 yo man to leave his group to look for a lost cellphone? Don't you think that sounds ridiculous and random? So the old guy was gonna "look for little girls" 200ft away from his group? Lol wtf And uhhhh, isn't tiktok a huge thing with this particular age group? So I'm sure video taping every damn small event is common for these guys
@fatee5069
@fatee5069 Ай бұрын
@@yoinky by your victim mentality logic where do you see him looking for a lost cellphone? ItS nOt iN Da Vid It No HapPen. All we see is an old man rushing a group of MINORS (see how you add fake details like claiming they're college age?) literally lunging on their tubes. Then awkwardly stands behind them. He never walked away until AFTER he killed people. Not after the first stabbing. After he stabbed everyone he could. At no point did the old man make an effort to leave or head back towards his group. Logic isn't hard you just have to use it.
@clutchboi4038
@clutchboi4038 Ай бұрын
Or that's why they literally called him a pedo and raper right before the incident and you're wrong because you hate young people.
@jennyg5426
@jennyg5426 Ай бұрын
These kids are guilty and should be held accountable.
@gbh5912
@gbh5912 Ай бұрын
Simply put- keep poking the bear and you better beware. This is self defense 100%
@KaeMaiden
@KaeMaiden Ай бұрын
He _was_ walking away and they followed him screeching like banshees and pushing him, slapping him when he fell into the river etc. Of course someone eventually got punched in the face in the melee. Then they followed him again and they got even more volatile. I don’t see what options he had.
@jenniferrobinson238
@jenniferrobinson238 Ай бұрын
Agreed
@agelessbeauty9136
@agelessbeauty9136 Ай бұрын
He had plenty of options he just chose to make a bad decision. He was the adult in this situation and he should have acted like one and walked away before the situation escalated. I bet he wished he had because it’s not looking good for him.
@TheG3neralLee
@TheG3neralLee Ай бұрын
@@agelessbeauty9136another dumb take
@rockstarofredondo
@rockstarofredondo Ай бұрын
@@agelessbeauty913624 year old violent Maddison was not an adult?😂
@clutchboi4038
@clutchboi4038 Ай бұрын
No he wasn't
@jamesmurray3889
@jamesmurray3889 Ай бұрын
Why are these kids acting completely different from the kids in the video? Apparently attempting to decive.
@side56
@side56 Ай бұрын
yea, not like someone died afterwards 💀
@JH-pt6ih
@JH-pt6ih Ай бұрын
I think they are acting a lot like the kids in the video. Self-important, uncaring, think the world owes them everything, and that they can do no wrong. I mean, this twerp basically excused away trying to humiliate the guy and blamed that part of it on him. Oh, it was because of .... because of the lie. Maybe Miu inadvertently saved a lot of lives because this twerp was going to drive home DRUNK at the end of the day.
@Paul-fq4mm
@Paul-fq4mm Ай бұрын
Because, they are trying to play the we were just scared little kids card now. Instead of taking responsibility for taking part in their friends death they keep lying. Just listen to all their testimony all of them only remember what helps them justify their actions. Anything , else they don't remember. The video shows another story than the one they seem to want to remember.
@Thewildmanwoods
@Thewildmanwoods Ай бұрын
How strange to say that…have you never been a kid …i remember a weird man hanging around and we were scared so just shouted rude stuff …you’ve no empathy
@Thewildmanwoods
@Thewildmanwoods Ай бұрын
@@JH-pt6ihwow just wow …makes me wonder how people sleep at night saying something like this…just imagine if it was your kid with his whole stomach cut open
@user-ew7jv2sz9w
@user-ew7jv2sz9w Ай бұрын
These kids are a bunch of bullies.
@sfsf6768
@sfsf6768 Ай бұрын
And liars
@IWillBe00
@IWillBe00 Ай бұрын
These kids started all this. So many teenagers now think this is hilarious. They have no self control and lie. They think life has no consequences. They should be charged for what they have done.
@mrx2586
@mrx2586 26 күн бұрын
and what have they done what can they be charged with?
@nadinekeating3255
@nadinekeating3255 Ай бұрын
Marijuana? "Yes, please." 😂
@logankue9627
@logankue9627 Ай бұрын
😂😅😂
@Coco-chrispy
@Coco-chrispy Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@chichodormi4732
@chichodormi4732 Ай бұрын
LMFAO
@cmd2973
@cmd2973 Ай бұрын
lol I noticed that too, he wasn't to happy when he said that
@kylepark8692
@kylepark8692 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@TheOnlyGuitarFather
@TheOnlyGuitarFather Ай бұрын
This group is the catalyst why their friend is dead… picking fights with people with mental issues. .the group should be charged with involuntary manslaughter and he should be charged with voluntary manslaughter. There needs to be laws about doing what those kids did. Crazy case man
@nadinekeating3255
@nadinekeating3255 Ай бұрын
To make a law against that, would be to violate your first amendment. You can't stab a kid to death (or anyone) just because you don't like what they are saying to you. He's the adult, he was old enough to be all these kids father. He should have left if he was that annoyed by a group of teens.
@KaeMaiden
@KaeMaiden Ай бұрын
He _was_ walking away and they followed him. Of course someone eventually got punched in the face in the melee. Then they followed him again and they got more volatile. They pushed him into the water, then slapped him again. I don’t see what options he had.
@TheOnlyGuitarFather
@TheOnlyGuitarFather Ай бұрын
@@nadinekeating3255notice I said he was mentally ill? You’d have to be
@gladyskravitz1905
@gladyskravitz1905 Ай бұрын
@@TheOnlyGuitarFather Have you watched Jawahn Cockfield's video of these high school kids surrounding Miu like a pack of dogs, taunting and pushing him down. Mental issues, yeah, sure.
@TheOnlyGuitarFather
@TheOnlyGuitarFather Ай бұрын
@@gladyskravitz1905 I actually hadn’t seen it. I just did before seeing this reply tho.. I was under the impression he walked away then came back and did it. You’re right
@ShastaAnn
@ShastaAnn Ай бұрын
The fact he's saying they were initially scared of Miu is ludicrous. They are following Miu and cackling uncontrollably like a pack of hyenas and jeering and pointing and mocking so loudly that it got people's attention who were over 100 feet away. That's not the behavior of anybody who is scared.
@candykane4271
@candykane4271 Ай бұрын
38:27 I look in the camera and laugh.
@bridgetalgeo3387
@bridgetalgeo3387 Ай бұрын
100 percent. When you're scared of someone, you absolutely don't do what they did. They forced the interaction with him even when he kept moving on looking for his phone, surrounding him, inciting others, and not even sounding human. Classic bullying and mob mentality. Looked like a scene from Lord of the Flies. These people defending this ganging up behavior are doing their kids zero favors.
@ShastaAnn
@ShastaAnn Ай бұрын
The reason that none of them ever initially told the police that the whole thing started because Miu said "I'm looking for little girls" is because he didnt say that, and the group hadn't had the chance to get their stories straight yet.
@candykane4271
@candykane4271 Ай бұрын
That is correct, and I think something else occurred before the video started. They had to stop to engage, not Nick stopping tubes. Because the current will just keep things moving. While Nick is standing.
@2-pistols
@2-pistols Ай бұрын
20:20 this dude acting all emotional. He was acting like a savage on the video.this is fake acting
@kellyzdriluk
@kellyzdriluk Ай бұрын
"Dude" was reliving being a 16 or 17 year old kid that was acting a fool and joking around THEN in an instant watched his best friend collapse and had to drag his 16 year old best friend's bleeding, lifeless body to shore. The teens were out of line and taking their joking too far but they didn't deserve the escalation to horrific physical injuries and murder.
@Saelee2004
@Saelee2004 Ай бұрын
@@kellyzdriluk they physically assaulted the man, the old man was the victim and defended himself, the only guilty thing he did was lied to the police
@kellyzdriluk
@kellyzdriluk Ай бұрын
@Saelee2004 First, I just want to be clear that I'm not condoning the kids' behavior. Secondly, I'm not sure if you have watched Mr. Miu's testimony and and cross yet, but he himself admits that he approached the boys because in his mind he was positive they stole the phone they lost. He walked up and was staring at them and silently. M said that he did not say anything to the boys or ask about the phone. The kids were wrong to razz him, but they weren't wrong to feel creeped out. He charged the boys in their tubes, put his snorkle in his mouth and used both hand to grab the tube and the camera boys leg. After this, they started calling him a pedo and razzed him more. That's when Maddi walked over yelling to get out of here and leave the kids alone. He pulled out his his knife at this point and held it down by his waist. M turned to stare at the boys again and Maddi pulled him by his arm away from the kids, toward her again. Mr. M then physically assaulted Maddie (he claims he pushed her face with his hand, others claimed a punch including someone from his own group saying it looked like he punched her. That's when he was first pushed down and slapped. He came up immediately gutting the first kid. Gets pushed back down. Then the second kid pushes his friends back to break up the fight and as soon as he turns to tell M to get back too, M stabs him. He gets up with his buddy now infront of him and a clear path back to his group but he lunges to the side to stab Riley in the ribs. Then Issac pushed him away after this and was stabbed in the heart. He then had to walk over to the last kid he stabbed (the one that slapped him) in order to stab him. How is it self defense or nothing wrong to choose to walk over to a kid not even in arm's reach to stab him? Post attack, not only did M do wrong by lying, but he also did not attempt aid, washed the murder weapon and threw it in the bushes, hid what happen from his group, changed his appearance, finished tubbing down the river, tried to leave walking right past the cops. When he was caught he said I heard there been a stabbing and I look like the suspect. Talking about how his group all wants to find out what happened out there... he then, like you said, lied and made up a complete BS story that he thought sounded like self defense. He knew he went over and above defending himself and attacked those kids. Which is exactly why he avoided the police and made up a story that sounded like he didn't go overboard. He was unaware that it was all being recorded and thought his word would be believed over the drinking teenagers. M invoked spousal privilege to block his ex-wifes testimony in court on what he told her had happened immediately after the attack. Long story short. Both sides were in the wrong here but Mr.M is the one who escalated this and turned it physically violent. He also escalated from hands to weapons and as a result, 4 teenagers have been maimed for life and one's life has been snuffed out. I think he should get murder 2 for Issac and at least one or two counts of attempted murder for the two kids that he had to walk to to stab them. In my mind it's not self defense when you have an open route of escape and a friend one way and instead you walk the other way to stab someone. If you have to walk over to them to stab them then you are not defending yourself in that moment.
@laurajohnson5205
@laurajohnson5205 Ай бұрын
This is a perfect example of group mentality... they should have just left him alone. This could have all been avoided.
@Thewildmanwoods
@Thewildmanwoods Ай бұрын
He came up to them ….seems people can’t remember being high antics teenagers…he originally said he was looking for girls …so there was rude comments…just that entitle to not just jab someone but gut them
@kpac3089
@kpac3089 Ай бұрын
Repeated good behavior does not lead to even better behavior, however, repeated bad behavior leads to even worse behavior.
@13Skaree
@13Skaree Ай бұрын
@@Thewildmanwoods He had been in the water with his snorkel looking for his cell phone when he heard people yelling at him and he lifted his head up and he sees a guy holding us cell phone so he ran over to them thinking they had his cell phone he realized it wasn’t his phone, and he turns to walk away, and they start calling him names and threatening him He never said he was looking for little girls And you know this because there were no little girls in the area as testified to buy everybody And no pedophile would ever say such a thing And only the black kid who was videoing claims to have heard him say that, Then they claim he punched the girl And anybody with common sense knows never in the history of the world has a man who is outnumbered by 13 people who are friends with the girls that are there decided to punch the girls it doesn’t happen because you know you’re going to be attacked by all of those those guys The reality is, these were decided to harass a fellow American simply, because what he was doing, seemed strange to them And they were drunk and they didn’t care about how bad they were in intimidating or bullying another American citizen They could easily have all just floated down the river, but instead they told him to leave, even though he was there first And he couldn’t leave because his cell phone was there and if you lost your cell phone, you would be freaking out just like I would because it’s important to all of us You were surrounded by 13 people, and they started to physically assault you and shoved you down in the water, and then started punching you while you were down in the water you would be terrified for your life And you would either freeze up like a deer head or you would fight back with deadly force You go ahead and keep believing a story that random pedophile decided to run up on a group of people and harass them, and then decided to pull out a knife and stab them because that makes 0.1 GPA logic look smooth and shiny kid
@darkwingduck3477
@darkwingduck3477 Ай бұрын
@@ThewildmanwoodsHe didn't come up to them. He was in the water minding his own business when they started to shout at him. Watch the full video, not the edited one.
@cherylmahaffey6184
@cherylmahaffey6184 Ай бұрын
This boy was being a smartazz to Mui by even questioning what he was looking for in “short” water and Mui smartazzed answered back. Guess the gang didn’t like his answer and decided to taunt him which started the whole ugly mess. This kid couldn’t fight his way out of jello. 6 against 1 until those others decided it was their business too! The girls had No business involving themselves giving orders like they had authority over anyone. Little girl got popped in the face means she was too close to Mui. She didn’t even know the situation. Then more back up surrounding this one guy? Being punched and submerged by these punks. Sorry that one boy died and the others that were injured have to carry those scars but maybe those reminders to mind your own business when in public will save your lives. I blame the mob for their stupidity and the lose of their friend that day.
@mystriddlery
@mystriddlery Ай бұрын
Not laughing now are ya?
@lolaee3491
@lolaee3491 Ай бұрын
Not sure why none of these people are not accused of aiding a murder they are all Guilty, as they harass and assault this man.
@georgkoenig4459
@georgkoenig4459 Ай бұрын
To lose your life over heckling an old guy and ganging up on him is something that didn't have to happen.
@InMyPOV2u
@InMyPOV2u Ай бұрын
Agree. His friends killed him. Tiffs one c testifying now in particular. He made the first verbal assault.
@sheepsfoot2
@sheepsfoot2 Ай бұрын
Hang on sh#t for brains... it looks like all parties were drunk the young people drunk and smoking some pot , so what ! WHO WAS IT WHO INVADED THE OTHERS SPACE ? If that young group got out of hand and approached the older group and started crowding, harassing , taunting , punches thrown YES you could use the argument of this a case of self defence ! The drunken creep and that's what he is, approached them and anyone with an ounce of common sense knows what he was up to > he was interested in the young chicks and they very well knew it > and why they were taunting him !
@aostrosky
@aostrosky Ай бұрын
​@@InMyPOV2usticks and stones
@fatee5069
@fatee5069 Ай бұрын
Because your soft little feelies get hurt doesn't justify you going on a stabbing spree.
@B_Bodziak
@B_Bodziak Ай бұрын
I wonder if the group of friends are mad at the guy who filmed it because he was the instigator
@jaimegarland8856
@jaimegarland8856 Ай бұрын
My cousins friend was on vacation there with some friends and also said the drunk kids on the tubes where being obnoxious and verbally harassing other people as well . Even hooting at other women .
@jaimegarland8856
@jaimegarland8856 Ай бұрын
They would also get aggressive when someone told them to knock it off
@styphlynne8253
@styphlynne8253 Ай бұрын
I remember being young stupid & smokin weed. It doesnt merit death. Nic could have left at any time!
@pete5819
@pete5819 Ай бұрын
​​@@styphlynne8253we were all young.. my friends & I never once bullied someone like this & or physically assaulted them. If we did, karma would become our fate. These kids were already bad people.
@johnnysacrimoni2404
@johnnysacrimoni2404 Ай бұрын
@@styphlynne8253I remember being young and smoking weed too. We never ganged up on an old man though
@carlitob-zj1of
@carlitob-zj1of Ай бұрын
​@styphlynne8253 you think he killed them for smoking weed or for trying to drown them bot
@KingBama60
@KingBama60 Ай бұрын
I do not feel bad for them. They cornered that man.
@machone539
@machone539 Ай бұрын
No one is gonna hire him for their company
@itsjasonovak
@itsjasonovak Ай бұрын
what a weird comment, nice car dork
@HunGerMovies
@HunGerMovies Ай бұрын
he has his own probably or his father, they prob were all spoiled brats, while the murderer was a middle class frustrated adult
@Jerlynvins
@Jerlynvins Ай бұрын
Goons. The lot of them. He defended himself. End of story.
@mrx2586
@mrx2586 26 күн бұрын
The evidence have proved otherwise. end of story
@michaelking6895
@michaelking6895 Ай бұрын
😂😂 harass, people bully him, and then assault him😂 and now mad about the outcome, grow up and leave people alone
@melaniaarnett1755
@melaniaarnett1755 Ай бұрын
hewas the one who started the physical assault. Not much of a man to come armed after a few words from kids. Sure sign he is a mentally unfit child in a mans body
@jamison1280
@jamison1280 Ай бұрын
They asked him, multiple times what he was doing and and to leave them alone. You are the one who needs to grow up if you think stabbing 5 people (and killing a minor) you are harassing is an appropriate response.
@michaelking6895
@michaelking6895 Ай бұрын
@@jamison1280 learn to mind your own business, because it was none of theirs. He doesn’t have to explain himself to nobody.
@michaelking6895
@michaelking6895 Ай бұрын
@@jamison1280 😂 another dip shart
@johnswanson3741
@johnswanson3741 Ай бұрын
​@@jamison1280He has as much right to be anywhere on that river as anyone else. If those "kids" had a problem with this older man, they should've moved on down the river. They had him way outnumbered and were way more intimidating.
@Annie497
@Annie497 Ай бұрын
This kid is lying through his teeth. They decided to mess around with this guy because they were all drunk and full of testosterone and were behaving like bullies. I don't believe he EVER said anything about "little girls"......I think they instigated the whole thing. He acted out of fear and self defense against this mob. Shame on them.
@Thewildmanwoods
@Thewildmanwoods Ай бұрын
Shame on you ,..no empathy…just imagine if your kid was a little drunk and mouthy …rude …and someone gutted him …so so sad …
@user-vd9mz5pf7u
@user-vd9mz5pf7u Ай бұрын
@@Thewildmanwoods Sympathy, not empathy- learn word meanings, it’s fun 🤩
@justaguy-69
@justaguy-69 Ай бұрын
this 'kid' is the one who sucker punched the old guy after they knocked him down, they all yelled about little girls to turn the onlookers against the guy in preparation for their attack, kids call it gaslighting.
@nl4402
@nl4402 Ай бұрын
I believe he may have said “I’m looking for a girls phone” and they are twisting a hard to hear conversation in to their own narrative.
@chaplainsoffice6907
@chaplainsoffice6907 Ай бұрын
​@toulor895 April 04 2024 Police officer Levi Stumo testified under oath and said a woman told him that she was punched in the face. Officer Stumo examined her and testified there were no marks or bruises on her face. She lied. .
@brianyang1643
@brianyang1643 Ай бұрын
As a fellow hmong guy I definitely don't accept this liar in our society
@debunkingdebunkers
@debunkingdebunkers Ай бұрын
What do you think he's lying about? I'm not very familiar with the case.
@TheYoungestCrone
@TheYoungestCrone Ай бұрын
can you please elaborate? What exactly is this lie?
@mistrjt9213
@mistrjt9213 Ай бұрын
He is a disgrace, much like these other kids. They all fail to understand how their actions led to all this and have no remorse about their part in it. This kid was an innocent bystander as we saw in the video, and guilty by association, but lying solidifies this. He seems like a “follower/sheep”-type so it doesn’t surprise me.
@rec.thecritic
@rec.thecritic Ай бұрын
Maybe your the liar, you were not even there , I'm gonna say u are the type to let the PDS FREE and condemn the innocent to death row. Why do I say this because u judge without knowing SHIT. Maybe you have never ever told the truth, u have anxiety ect... who's the liar??? Now be honest do u live home still at your age. U don't know nothing, didn't even finish high school where are u going calling people a liar. HJO D PPRCHA ur calling people? I wonder who😂😂😂
@rec.thecritic
@rec.thecritic Ай бұрын
​@@mistrjt9213 miss if someone is telling you to get the fk away, what will you do. Or will you let your ego get the better . This monster let the ego get the better of him. If you tell a crowd as a joke, IM LOOKING FOR LITTLE GIRLS , what do you think is gonna happen????😮😮😮 he said that to 17 and 20 year Olds so they made FUN OF HIM. What did the monster choose to do???? He decided, I DON'T LIKE U CALLING ME THAT OUT LOUD 😮😮🙄🙄🤪😜🤪😜😜😜ahh what do u expect, he rush them and would not move. He should have been the big man that he supposedly is and walked, but you can even see him smiling while stabbing this kids. Even when the arrest happens his smiling saying to the cops. Oh are u arresting me because I match a description of a man who was stabbing people. Than he says thar wasn't me, he hid the knife. If your self defense ; why not back up and say I have a knife but he hid the knife, he didn't say back up to no one. He is guilty as a pig in shit
@slimshadetree9468
@slimshadetree9468 Ай бұрын
They fucked around and found out. End of story.
@coolnerdsclothing6377
@coolnerdsclothing6377 Ай бұрын
if play stupid games win stupid prizes was a case THIS IS THE ONE!
@terrim5442
@terrim5442 Ай бұрын
The kids lied about him saying he’s looking for little girls and about being scared; trying to make themselves look better…
@lilithstribe
@lilithstribe Ай бұрын
100% agree
@JamminClemmons
@JamminClemmons Ай бұрын
@@lilithstribe I'll raise you to 110%....care to up the wager?....lol
@robertjones8598
@robertjones8598 Ай бұрын
I think that right and that they got together on the story, which is vague with respect to the little girls comment. I don’t buy it at all. And as a group they weren’t scared at all. This soft little fatty felt emboldened by the pack. The 220 lb football player claimed to be scared too. That’s a joke.
@Paul-fq4mm
@Paul-fq4mm Ай бұрын
They all are lying. They only remember anything that makes them look justified. While the video shows another story. These are adults but now their wanting to look like scared little kids. I sure hope the jury sees past this.
@lilithstribe
@lilithstribe Ай бұрын
@@JamminClemmons Heck yay! I'll up the pot to 111% and a nice fist bump.
@neecyneecy
@neecyneecy Ай бұрын
You mean Marijuana? Yes Please. Most heart-felt truthful "Need ya to Pass Me a Puff" ever spoken.
@roostercogburn7243
@roostercogburn7243 Ай бұрын
I dont feel bad for the guy on the stand at all.
@kelseyshoenight668
@kelseyshoenight668 Ай бұрын
Earlier in his testimony: "he said he was looking for little girls" Just a few minutes later: Lawyer: "you don't know why he was there do you?" Him: "no"
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