OMG , So true ... how/why did they all gang up and scream laugh thenhe react to the lady in his face, then they Jump him , smacking him all over ....

wow. Your threshold for outright murder is very low.

And if what they saw was a demonic face, all the more reason to RUN.

@@Zhana808the mob felt like they were in charge and were going to hand out some mob justice. They weren’t about to leave or back down. Mobs never do that. Until they realize reality has set in.

@@420surfdawg LMAO "React" = HIT A GIRL 1/2 his size.

There was no gang. It was a community of decent folks.

@@aceball7076it was a “pack of friends.” They did have a token blk friend who started the whole incident!

They were a mob! They might be fine as individual people but as a group they took things too far that day with dire consequences. They were feeding off of each other and dumping fuel on the fire, the situation kept getting worse and worse. Saying that the old guy could have just walked away from that crowd is ridiculous. I'm sure he was afraid to even go back to his own group fearing that he would lead that mob to his own wife and friends. He was very clearly outnumbered and that crowd was not about to back off.

@@goofygirl1311Thank goodness for people who have common sense and use their eyes to watch what transpired and why. This man was being attacked!

It's not even a gang. Watch all the testimonies. It's like 3 separate groups that all came together. That isn't a gang or mob. Also watch the original video without the FOX banner across the bottom. The old man pulls the knife out of his pocket about 20 seconds before he gets pushed. He had 20 seconds to walk away but chose to kill and attempted to kill multiple people.

Legally they were. Under 17 is a minor.

The one who was gutted was 17.. why are you sticking up for the coward that used a knife to fight a bunch of soft kids? You attracted to cowards or what??!

100% kids

I am confused. High school students are adults? They had a full year of high school to start that fall.

Agree with you, not children.

Because it’s a murder case

If they’re children, their parents should be charged! These kids shouldn’t be assaulting anyone so they provoked it.

So far, IMO. Not Guilty! Drinking & Mob mentality contributed to this incident ! Hands down!

Right? What happened to the doctrine of clean hands

I have wondered the same thing from the very beginning.

Dreadlocks guy being the loudest and the instigator. Shocker

The smart ass replies he gave to the defense attorney were unbelievable.

@@tproudboomer5965 he was lying and being difficult but at some point he just admitted, “yeah i made all that stuff up about him being a rapist, so what?”

So like y'all to blame it on the one black Guy🙄🤷🏾‍♀️ I think they all had a part in it!!

@@tanyapandy1487 What they're saying is some parts are very much bigger than other parts.

What a dumb excuse . Please stop

No kidding Those teens were Losers

You're not smart eh?

​@@pt2163congratulations on making the dumbest reply in this thread.

@@dm6187 sadly there is a few of them like that in the comments! obviously not many because this case is extremely obvious but there is always that odd group out just like voting!

Agreed

100%

With what? Attempt to humiliate? First degree ridicule? Insults with a deadly mouth?

@@modernisto in some states you can be charged with manslaughter if he or she causes the death of another unintentionally while in the commission of an unlawful act.

@@modernisto ummm it’s illegal to lie under oath ….. so ya lol

Jurors will remember this!

Never follow a drunk girl named Rhylee into a river brawl. That's just common sense. Hopefully the community sees the punks for what they are.

Do you have any idea how fast this all happened and how traumatic it would be to see a man gutting people!

@themythhunter9764 obviously. But being as u said that people do not forget traumatic event as such. Now if you been smoke weed and drinking in hottest sun and yelling getting dramatic while filming yea they did not forget nothing the man did. It's jus there actions they don't remember.

@@themythhunter9764 I mean, it's all on video. Took them a good 10-20 seconds to realise their friend was leaking himself, they were so busy screaming that he was a pedophile and laughing at it.

Right? They call this dude literally THE WORST F'ING THING you can call a man, and everyone glosses over that sht. They swarmed and assaulted an old dude and he defended himself. I wish he could have ran tf away but well... that's not what happened here. Those little shts started the entire thing from what i can tell, and i started off on their side by just looking at the prosecutions presentation. Then i watched the actual video. . .

They are psychopaths.

​@EQOAnostalgia not if you aren't a peddo

​@@EQOAnostalgiahe got mad cuz he knew it was true

#LordOfTheFliesTrial

Where would they walk to? He came to them... 🤦🏻‍♂️

​@@fatee5069it's a freaking river. They could have gone anywhere

It's all Jahwan's fault, he's the one who egged the whole thing on, he's the 1 who began taunting Mr. Miu, and he just wanted to film the whole thing even when the fight broke out, all he did was scream and say "this isn't real this isn't real and just panicked. Juhwan didn't even try to help anyone, and he taunted the guy and egged his crew to surround him, putting him in fear of his life, I think a lot of people are with Mr. Miu. I've seen some of these witnesses tell truthful statements, but I'm sure that all of them likely underrepresent how much they drank, cause they all seem to say 1 or 2 beers. I don't like how these videos don't edit out when the people on the stand tell their name and where they live and where they work, that should really be edited out

@videoettaceo8900 the point is that it wasn't on them to "leave" he's the one that came to them.

@@fatee5069It’s not on him to leave either. He’s not in their living room. He’s looking for a phone. They have no right to tell him he can’t be there.

I still think the stabber was a jerk, but it sounds like they fiddled around and found out!

This is from chat gpt- a person who was part of a mob or group involved in an assault can potentially be charged with gang assault even if they did not physically touch the victim themselves. In some jurisdictions, simply being present and participating in the group's actions can be enough to warrant charges, especially if there is evidence of encouragement, support, or intent to aid in the assault. Each case is evaluated based on its specific circumstances and the applicable laws in the jurisdiction.

@@Lord_Humungus And a law professor stated whoever hit first, self-defense is out the door. Miu will go to prison!

This trial is the definition of F around & find out.

Defunding public education for >60yrs was a brilliant strategy usa..

Or at the very least, they could have offered help to the man to find the phone he was searching for. I know my kids would have helped in a heartbeat.

Agree 100%

HE CAME UP TO THEM, They didn't seek him out, As an adult man I do not linger near high school kids in bathing suits.

@@stclairstclair He went to the area where he believed the phone to be, he didn’t go up to them for the fun of it. They just happened to be there. I don’t think he intentionally went over there to off someone, just because. They verbally attacked him, and things got escalated very quickly. In my opinion they are alllllll in the wrong.

​@@stclairstclairHe was looking for a phone.

Underwater!? It was like 2 feet of water 😂😂😂😂 he wasnt held hostage he couldve left.

Mental health issues worldwide are a major problem. I hear you 👍🏻

And the look in his eyes, as he said nothing trying to figure out his next move

4 inches of water

@@alesia912and they were standing over him and still pushing him around in the water. he could’ve easily been thinking that he wouldn’t be able to get up due to the pushing around or they could’ve easily held his head under the water.

@taramcgavan7654 He pushed her out of the way. If a 250lb man punched a woman in the face, she would have gone down. She didn't even drop her beer. Note how not one single witness could say which hand he used, where he hit her, what type of punch, etc. Not one. It didn't happen, sweetheart.

​@@DesignRhythmI think she pushed at him first

@@judithgannon5642 Yes. The 2 girls were over the top, yelling + putting their hands in his face. You can see the heavier girl grabs his arms and that makes him mad. I believe he pushed her out of his way and flailed like LeBron to make it look worse.

The person who was punched is hiding. She won’t get in camera or audio. So we won’t know what she said until the transcript is released.

@taramcgavan7654 So i just need 13 of my friends to call you a nonce ? There's no proof of any punch, no sound, no reaction until a few seconds later. They just made this up in the video like they made up the whole "he's looking at little girls underwater" part to mock him and instigate something.

Yeah pedophiles don't really go around saying that. That is something in cases like this said by young upstarts wanting a viral video by following and accusing someone multiple times of being a pedo and waiting for the resulting self defence. They then blocked his path when he tried to leave and used the "he hit a girl" card after the fact because he didn't hit her at all. She's there saying "I think he hit me". Well most people KNOW when they've been hit.

Even if he said that. I truly believe it was 1. A diss to the kid who asked him what are you doing. 2. An ironic statement. In Bosnia when someone asks you what are you doing but it's obvious (say cooking) one might say oh taking a sh@t. Cause it is clear what one is doing. And Nicolai is Romanian. I can see this is where he was coming from.

@@AzothDee I served in Bosnia in 1996-1997

but the video shows them calling miu a pedo before he approach them. is it normal accusing someone of being a pedo these days? if yes you should record yourself calling drunks a pedo see what happens.

@@auslee2431 That was the 2nd time Miu approached them

One of them had a straight up six pack straight out of model shoot. All were big even were wrestlers 😂😂😂

I don't know... emotionally/mentally immature at 17 or 18?...my guess

Brain not fully developed till around 25, right? Remember that

@@revekat2053 what’s your point ?

17 is a minor what are you on

you forget miu approach them after being called a pedo. why would random strangers accuse someone of being a pedo?? i guess he could of walk away when they called him a pedo. did he?exactly he chose to walk 25 feet to approach them

he’s still an adult capable of choosing his battles… murder is not the answer. he choose to walk over to a group of people yelling at him and pounce on them. he put himself in the situation, instead of just thinking “these dum kids” and continuing looking for the phone

@@auslee2431 Has anyone watching his wife's testimony? He walked away, to his group, and then returned. I figured he got the knife at that time. It hasn't come out yet, but it makes sense that is what he had done. So this was intentional. Look at his face on the video. He intended to harm someone, but wound up harming many.

@@kimlittleton4943 omg the wife testimony is the worst. they took it easy on her. the wife admit he was drinking so called 2 beers then basically talk about his past then i don't know like 2/3 of the questions. you should watch it, you might enjoy it lol. but that is what im also assuming too because it was already de-escalate there is no reason to go back a 2nd time unless he trying to start trouble. i honestly hope they release the full river video so everyone can see the before it happen.

The old fart seiko was drinking as well he was acting like a male Karen also has a knife in his pocket

To win? Not accept the contribution they had in this mess and the death of another...

There's so many lies on both sides. The wife LIED about not looking at her husband or paying attention to him, but saw him fall, sent ppl to help, then not worrying about it after. The rest of Mui's group said they all rode in silence once he returned to the group after they saw CPR, EMS, victims not getting up, and their own guy friend called 911 3 times and helped EMS to the victims but their entire group claimed they didn't discuss it at all. ALL LIES

If the guy is innocent why hide knife why say I heard there was a stabbing as if he didn’t know ?

@@mojoan So they commit perjury to win? Seems legit. . .

who lied??????????

Exactly. They terrorized this man who was over 50 and all alone. What a bunch of bullies.

Right. Amen sissy.

@Koolaidistheshit It was a pocket knife that I understand people carry tubing...how would you act if 10 or more drunk teenagers were taunting you...calling you a perv looking for little girls, touching you??? Right. Scary.

Oh, there is a box cutter in this trial too? I haven’t heard that! There are also kids in this case?

@@mojoanI’d walk away, simple.

Senile old man + knife = life in prison

+ Excessive, Nonsensical Use of Force

So, only one person did all the damage… Not a pack….

You are a coward

They thought it was wcw

Some people are genetically predisposed to evil behavior.

The demon had a knife against unarmed people and the way he used the knife; the look on his face; that demon has stabbed and sliced people in the past.

@@Karma4All- The look on his face was fear for his life.

@@Karma4All- lolololol sure those self defense is not a crime this is like Rittenhouse all over again

why was he running in the water HE knew what he was doing just a drunl impaired axx hole

And imagine the poor guy had just had triple heart bypass surgery, he must have been terrified of having another heart attack.

Shock, fear, concussed. Makes peoples do somewhat questionable things.

said all that but end with how the defendant act in that situation is ur biggest problem.....X.x

He had no duty to stick around a dangerous situation. One of the mob members could come back with his own weapon and retaliate.

@@jobbins008 per one of the mob member, they were forming a wall, surrounding him. and in the video, they did that and attack. so it is not about sticking around. you act like it's his fault for that. O_o

🙏 amen

Exactly. Trash all around. Even as a teen, I would've asked the guy if needed help. The people defending these punks are just as bad.

Hi there we're THE CARLSON CLAN. We're here to help.😛😛😛

Maybe the old drunk man should not have walked away when asked? Maybe he should not have violently charged, attacked, made contact with, grabbed their tubes and blocked them in? Perhaps after the kids screamed for help and group[ 2 asked him to leave he should have left and not pull a knife? He attacked first and he could have walked away the entire time. If self defence why does he wash and dump the knife? Why does he lie to police? Why does he lie and make up an entirely absurd story in interrogation? You don't get to attack people, be asked to leave and then get to claim self defence.

Whens kids are not parented and become cruel, lying young adults.

The dead one was filmed lunging in for his turn to push him down when he connected with a knife. I have no sympathy for any of them except the man they were using to make a viral video by calling a pedo and then pushing him down after accusing him falsely of hitting a girl (who was filmed saying she thought he hit her and nothing about him really doing it).

The defandant couldn't walk away. He was surrounded by a mob.

It is never simple to just turn and walk away when you are being insulted. It is human nature to defend your name and your ego that is why it is a dangerous game to insult and challenge people because you never know who you are f&^*ing with.

​@@madsdee7803the skanks from the other group blockes his exit.

@@madsdee7803 this is slightly inaccurate, the guy you clearly see him stabbing is AJ and he didn't die. he was disemboweled somewhat but survived. isaac, who died, gets stabbed off the video screen (since the filmer guy moved the camera away from the guy with the knife to film irrelevant bullshit instead) so we don't actually see it happen although it probably looked a lot like AJ's stabbing just better placed

I must have missed where you say Mr Mui hitting Madison that started the chain reaction of events? Mr Mui should have stayed at the scene to defend himself to police who were being called. Was he still scared at that point after defending himself if he felt that strong about his actions?

​@realityreviews2314None of that matters if there was no crime to begin with.

@@CitizenWilkes there was. If he would have stopped stabbing after he gutted that one kid he would probably be okay in his self defense claim. What's going to screw him over is him stabbing the girl. She was no threat and he walked towards her to stab her. His wife also had a terrible demeanor on the stand which will also influence the jury.

freeze it at the beginning of the video where the old guy walks right up to the group instead of the other way lol and flips the guy on the tube lol he walked right toward them with a knife lmfao at the very beginning of the video first 10 seconds

There is no evidence of Madison getting Slapped. In fact, the officer tried getting her phone, and she had deleted her photos???? WHY??? OOH OKAY. PROBABLY BECAUSE MUCH MORE ON HER PHONE. ALL THEY HAD TO DO IS A SERACH WARENT TO DOWNLOAD HER PHONE, BUT THEY DIDNT DO THAT EITHER.M. ALL THAT HAS TO MAKE YOU WONDER WHATS REALLY ON HER PHONE?? NOT ONLY WOULD THAT HAVE HELPED HER, BUT IT PROBABLY WOULD OF RUINED THE CASE FOR THE STATE/ PROSCUTERS.. PEOPLE TRUST GOVERNMENT FAR TOO MUCH!! LONG STORY SHORT, ALMOST EVERY WITNESS HAS LIED ON THIS STAND!! THEY ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING AND COMING TOGETHER TO CORRABRATE THEIR STORIES!! but it's very sad someone did die. Rest in paradise 🙏. No one wins in this situation.

And smoking meth

Bwahahaha

Agreed!!! The prosecutor should be ashamed that this man spent two years in jail

@dant.1028 go back to the original video and watch the first 15 seconds he accosted those kids they asked him wtf he was doing he mumbled something about girls and kept touching them and moving their tubes that they were in they got out and told him to get away from them the “pedo” talk wasn’t them just saying you’re a pedo it was get away from us you pedo. He didn’t then after being yelled at by two tiny girls (once again telling him to get away from the kids) he pulled a knife on them only then was he actually shoved to the ground before anyone stepped to touch him besides the girls not letting him walk closer a kid yells bro he’s got a knife then they shoved him into the water. They would’ve gotten stabbed no matter what they only saved that kid about 30 seconds but it would’ve saved his life if they had been able to keep him down. This man went to start a problem murdered a kid on purpose fled the scene and lied to police until he was shown footage of what he’d done then all of a sudden he was looking for a phone and was “scared” talked to all his friends like nothing had happened like he hadn’t stabbed 4 people and was gonna go about his day. And notice when he did leave it was the direction they had asked him to go. So when they told him over 20 times get tf away from us go go go he could’ve easily gone but instead he chose to stay without another thing coming out of his mouth never backing down or away from anyone. And then stabbed 4 humans killing one disemboweled another and traumatized everyone.

dollyhood6549 I could not agree with you more!!! It's always goes down hill from there.. I believe that's why for years that were not allowed in the military with men..

@@randymorgan8375 then your beliefs lack nuance. Women in the military are trained professionals who deserve your gratitude & respect. I’m talking about drunken civilians. They are not the same. ✅ We ( u & I ) are not the same. ✅

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Agreed. All of the wiener swinging I’ve witnessed has ended with handshakes and high fives.

They found it. Bullied the wrong one.

The perp disemboweled him 😮 that’s pretty crazy is nit defending himself

@@CruzCruz-nw7fi is there an invisible line that your not allowed to cross when defending yourself? It could have been worse if it were just any other random person. You do what you have to until your safe. I think without the video this guy would have become a victim to the witnesses and court.

@@CruzCruz-nw7fi well maybe if the kid that got disemboweled wasn’t shoving the guy with his hands around his throat backwards into the water the knife wouldn’t have went up in his stomach and disemboweled him!

"This is like a movie" must be what buddy recording was thinking. Went from "yea for the culture!" to "omgg is this real?" pretty quick 😭

how much responsibility do you believe they should take ? and for what?

They are drunk. They are show boating.

Perjury and theft off the table since Convid.

No one cares about perjury unless it’s the GOV / FBI chomping to take someone down.

Defend yourself while White go gyim.

Damn straight its these 50 year old people that raised this generation and now they want to gut them in rivers like fish. What lunacy.

And make excuses for them. These kids brazenly drinking alcohol from a cooler in public and reacting over the top after the drunk approached obviously looking for something. Inconvenience…maybe. Or something to laugh at and get on their way. When we were young and drank we kept Sh!t under wraps and tried to avoid contact with adults. My parents didn’t protect me when I got caught doing things or escalating confrontations (that was not accepted). These kids reacted with wild excitement and complete pandemonium over a drunk guy looking for a phone. How immature. They used the opportunity to bait a reaction to record and get a video and escalate situation where they’re in the right to gang-beat an old drunk. Disgusting and deplorable for all involved. And I’m not defending him either. But These kids and other people escalated with the wrong drunk guy. They’re lucky they aren’t being charged and tried as well. As they should!

@@mackdeen7021 i agree under age drinking at the apple river needs a thorough investigation. All these kids drinking is getting all these people stabbed. 🤤

@taramcgavan7654 those rowdy teens so far seem more honest than the group that claim that he didn't have anything to drink(apparently the only sober person on the river so far.) Oh and they are watching the trial when they aren't supposed to. And the one guy claims that he was able to walk up to a panicked man and grab his shoulder and not get stabbed. What was his group doing to cover for this guy? Were they deleting videos off their phones, and cordinating this? I think his group is playing stupid games and being allowed to claim they can only speak spanish in some points then getting on stand and wanting to testify without interpeturs. They aren't being honest. Oh but they just continued on their trip down the river through the blood that nut stabbed out of highschooler. They are looking less and less honest as we go. What they are saying seems more insane than what those rebelious teens told police.

I can't help but cry every time I watch the video. It is so horrible. Poor man. If he hadn't done something they would've probably drowned him. And that would've been "fine". Since they were "just kids doing kids things".

They also falsely accused him of being a pedo. All he was doing was looking for a lost phone.

Honesty id have been terrified. No excuse for how these people behaved and "Riley" just inserted herself in the situation, not once did anyone say don't hurt that man.. 13 to 1 and he's being prosecuted instead of them???? Make it make sense...I'm sorry someone died and ppl were hurt but let's be clear on who drew first blood

Evisceration … to do that to someone … that alone takes a different type of person . I get the 13 to 1 … but to escalate to full on stabbing … thats also pretty crazy in itself , stabbing is so up close and personal … just keep stabbing everyone trying to kill everyone. You see his eyes … what that group did was wrong … but the Nikolai dude seems crazy to me

@@debbievalentine6810 not only that, but if you slow the video of the incident way down to like .25 speed, you can see the girls pushed him before he supposedly punched her in the face. Seeing that took away any tiny 1% twinge in my mind.

Exactly. He was surrounded by loud taunting, aggressive people all younger & stronger than he. They were between him & his group, & his back was against deeper water. English is his 5th language (he learned last, at a later age), & had relatively recently had a heart attack & quadruple bypass surgery. He had alot of reasons to believe he was in danger(s). I could not convict him of any degree of murder after all I've seen & heard thus far. They want him to look like an irrational, pervy, aggressive man- & seems he is anything but. The defense atty had a great point as to why Jeshwan (sp?) was videotaping everything, & yelling inciting words for all on the river to hear like "Raper!"- he was inciting an incident & stirring it up for the sake of content!! The evidence supports that idea. This didn't have to happen for a lot of reasons; however, the least of which seems to have anything to do with Mr. Liu being a criminal.

Right.. but why did he come charging at the kids grabbing their tubes in the first place?

He saw them holding up a phone and believed it may have been the phone he was looking for. (From defense opening statement)

​@@KP-zj3zj ummm...a phone he was told was insured and asked NOT to go looking for? So instead he goes after a bunch of teens armed with a knife? And looked stupified drunk. Yeah...the teens werent angels, but this never would have happened if he had stayed with his own group.

@@enviticus, That’s not how it all started !

Yeah. Especially because he punched and stabbed a woman first. Self defense against a much younger woman. Guess he just couldn't handle one more woman yelling at him ---- he stabbed her to defend his stunted ego.

I saw it and they all are lying now to justify pushing him down like that onto rocks in a river where he could have drowned. They gave him the self defence plea with their mob. Other people have died ike that and I'm sure he knew it.

😂😂😂😂

She doesn’t , she says something about,,vertically challenged “ if I’m not mistaken

Because he's seeking illegal prosecution. Of course he doesn't have a plan.

I was actually for the kids at first in this case.. until, you see the video altercation and it's clear the kids are who started it. with the arrogant, drunk laughing and cackling. It's embarrassing

@@bromontana8100 Same here, i was for them. Then i saw the ACTUAL evidence.... funny how that changes things.

@@EQOAnostalgia and their families had 2yrs to bad mouth their victim. Pathetic of their families who didn't care that they could have drowned while drunk, could have died in a car accident driving home while drunk or getting a lift with one of those drunks, would definitely have NOT cared if they killed someone else while driving drunk either. Now their poor kids are choir boys and innocent little girls and he's a bad guy for defending himself while they were trying to drown him.

No kidding. I can't watch this any more because there are so many repeat questions (what hand did he slap her with?, is that you in the picture?), stumbles, pauses, hesitation, moments of dead space........ It's like they're trying to bore them all to death so they don't have to continue the trial.

She's probably watched the video after all the outcry now we've all seen it too. I bet her parents made her watch it so she didn't make them look stupid.

Was thinking the same.

She is only telling the truth now because what she told authorities was not the same as what the videos showed.

The bar owner needs to be held accountable as well he supplied the liquor to the minors in his group and sent the kids over there to “sort it out “ they could have helped the guy but they joined in and escalated the entire thing .

“To build a wall “ ?? Enough said smh

They’ve all looked pretty rough around the edges. That’s what excessive drinking and drugs will do to a person.

Yup she looks a little rough, but they all do!

They all look like they are in their 40s

Listening to this questioning is enough to make one worn out! Or pull your hair out! He’s as bad as JCrumbleys defense council.

Meth

Because they show these people are all lying.

Because they show it was clearly self-defense and they don't have the integrity to admit they blew it even bringing this charge of 1st Degree Homicide and attempted Homicide.

Incites disorder and anger May create rage and confusion in the courtroom? I wanted to see pictures of/ video to follow the testimony

I think it just the cameraman for this channel. Court TV shows things.

It can get gratuitous maybe…… it’s like people need visual trauma to feel anything! It’s terrifying! The state of blood 🩸 thirst! 😑🙄🙄🙄

Yup the man recording made it up started yelling lies to insite the mob for his. Video it's his fault things ended up the way they did

Great Advice!

Someone should have informed the 50 something grown adult of these “real world” facts surely?

​@@Trail717yes in this case he SHOULD have known better. But as martial arts teaches you never know who you are fighting. Goes both ways.

@@criticalthinker2022 I know right I feel like I’ve read these exact phrases on one of those boomer T-shirts that are sold on Amazon. The kind that have a graphic of the grim reaper holding two smoking revolvers on the front.

I’m so glad I grew up when I did. I wouldn’t trade places with this younger generation for anything. The “time out” generation had kids and this is the result. The older man should have known better.

Watch the full video. He initiates contact .

@@ZeroPhilosopher this is just a video of her testimony.

Because of what exactly?

Agreed!!! He needs to take over the Daybell case!

@@taniamz3001 Maybe pay attention or offer some counterpoints.

He aggressively went on a rampage and destroyed lives. Nothing , absolutely nothing justified what he did to these young people.

They must be traumatized after seeing people stabbed dying and with guts hanging out.

Stop this narrative, nonsense at all. Come on, the man attacked and killed a young man. No excuses for this man reaction. Despicable.

​@@sslaughter6357There was definitely an excuse! His life! He has a family too.

@@sslaughter6357would you be saying the same thing if the old man was black? You'd be crying Justice for him! They had no right to attack him

Anybody watch the video? He went into this group of idiots first. He could have just left them alone. You could also see how far he walked to his group afterwards. Really both parties should be held equally accountable. There is no real victim, just stupidity.

Its the camera

Meth.

@@HarryHolland-fc8khcamera’s dont stretch your skin across your face and lower your voice. “It’s the camera”….dumbest crap ive ever heard of

Vaping.

Wdym she just been run thru a lil bit

You're so correct!

That’s because there testimonies on the day of the incident are different to the ones they have given on the stand and the video helps show them the actual incident that contradicts their accounts. It shows the difference between what they said and what actually happened. Having them explain and then showing the jury and the witnesses the video shows the discrepancy in their testimony.

Their testimony proves that they are liars. After testifying the lawyer shows the video to prove that the bullies aren’t trustworthy. I think the worst was the guy videoing. He’s the main instigator and 100% wanted his actions to lead to the defendant being attacked. How any coach saw fit to put him on a college team is beyond me. Guy lead to all of this escalating.

@@aliciadawn8026 vs the poor old man that hit a woman and pulled a knife that he didn’t warn anyone he had mind you, that could have avoided it all if he’d just walked away…. Who knows what goes through one’s mind amid chaos? That goes for all involved. Such a sad situation

Great point. The State has even stopped showing the video.

@@Jaydee71172 I understand what he’s trying to do but if the video is all they are going by, then just use it and call it a day. This goes for both sides. Let the lawyers hash it out in opening and closing arguments, which they will do anyway, and be done with it. Why waste the court’s time and money? Use it on the people that rendered help and the police officers, etc. IDK it’s a sad situation. Being polite and having manners rarely exist anymore across all ages I guess.

Why did he go over to the group???

Ego

@@Janice-eb1zmdoesn’t matter why he has a right to go where ever he wants it was a public lake

@@Janice-eb1zm victim blaming is not going to work.

Not just self defense law, but stand your ground law

His eyes looked demonic in the video. Are you serious? Did you not see it?

Outnumbered?? He was free to walk away anytime.

So why didn't he "walk away" all those countless times they yelled at him to "walk away"? Why did HE run at them ?? By your logic , they would have had justification to fear for THEIR lives and to gut HIM. ..

It’s a good thing justme is an expert………🤦‍♂️

It was two years ago and you expect witnesses to react as if it were last week? Your man is a coward who stabbed a young unarmed woman who posed no physical threat to him. No decent man would ever do such a thing.

Lies are harder to remember.

Because this is traumatizing?

brain rot

It’s so draining talking and stuff ..

Because it's really nerve racking to constantly lie

In a court of law, children are under 18

@@dollyhood6549 Really? Teens are considered children. I don't think so.

@@dollyhood6549 Who bought the alchol for the children?

@@angiejorah ok but what does the court say? This is a legal setting. Theyre in a courthouse

NOT children but minor's who can and should be tried as adults

Definitely demonic. That man wasn't scared at all. He knew he had a very very sharp knife that could do damage. He is not a victim.

@@amyfinn1426 Beginning of your sentence may be true, but the 3rd sentence is not.

@@amyfinn1426 Nic sh*t himself during the melee. I would say that was fear.

@@amyfinn1426Absolutely, I completely agree 100%

@@angiejorahOnly he said that, no one else verified that!

​@@looking4things669The same witness that claimed her friend wasn't in his face😂.

@@looking4things669 I was just viewing the recorded video and the Witness. Amazing to believe these kids are the victims. Embarrassing

@@looking4things669Madison was the instigator , the person who made the video started by calling him a pedo. For no reason, he got his friend killed! Madison then esculated the whole thing . He was one person, surrounded by dozen or so drunk and some underage teenagers who thought they were having fun taunting him. Their fun back fired when he felt the need to protect him self. The man was older, outnumbered by these drunk teenagers . They can’t call wolf after there taunting backfired.

@@bromontana8100 You can't convict them for taunting and name-calling, but that can be considered for mitigating circumstances and lessen his prison sentence. That's about it.

@@looking4things669 can you convict them for pushing him down in the water again and again as he tried to get up until he did that and got away? I wonder what lie they'd have made up about trying to save a drowning man if they killed him doing that.

how on earth did you manage to type so poorly

​@@JustMe-fo4ev????

@@sheilarainey218 well that explains a lot

@JustMe-fo4ev smart ass I do have a disability but 17 other people Can read it If can't read sorry

It’s funny how they keep saying kids and children because it sounds worse, but no one seems to care that these kids were drunk and high. So in actual facts he was attacked by a group of people who were all participating in illegal activities to start with.

you know miu approach them after being called a pedo. why would a random strangers accuse someone of being a pedo?? i guess he could of walk away when they called him a pedo. did he?exactly he chose to walk 25 feet to approach them.

@@auslee2431 Agreed. Approached in a public river, by some drunk guy looking for his phone. It’s probably not even a crime. Ok he started some $h!t with some kids because he was looking for his phone and he was too drunk. But their ridiculous reaction was so over the top! And the “pedo” taunting, how has this become a thing????? do that to some people and you”re going g to get smacked…right or wrong it’s a predictable reaction. What’s wrong with these kids???? Over the top! and they were also way too inebriated and drinking out in public with no regard to being caught. Everyone involved were the stereotypical characters that was a recipe for disaster.

@@mackdeen7021 thats the thing i believe people would of help him look for the phone if miu would of just said he was looking for a phone but the video doesn't show that. it shows them calling him a pedo and then he approach them. that is where both party at fault. young adults/kids for cracking joke do deserve to get smack not killed. but miu the full adult had a chance to just walk away or should have just told them he looking for a phone. all could of been prevented. then when you put stupid drunk people in the same room hell break loose.. both side should be held accountable. this is the society today we live in. shame

​@@auslee2431he mad at him

Even worse.... people who said they didn't see Madison get hit are now saying they think they saw him hit Madison. The dude who hit the old man, standing right next to Maddie, said the old man failed his arms at Rhylie - now, 2 years later, he says he thought the old man hit Madison.

A couple of people said they did see it.

@@Jazlin92665 who said they actually seen it? I haven’t watched all of them.

Dude that punched first said he saw him punch Maddie and her glasses fall into the water and that's when he punched crazy dude and said "you don't hit a girl" and punching him again when he was stabbed.

​@@holliepotter7071 actually... in the immediate aftermath, he said he saw the old man flail his arms at Rhylie (not Madison). Now, 2 years later, he says he thinks he saw the old man hit Madison - but doesn't really remember it when asked what hand the old man hit Madison with

Hi there. We're the Carlson Clan. We're hear to help.😛😛😛😛

Exactly, for the prosecution to not charge all the 13 underage inebriated & weed smoking teens is a crime itself. For them to then charge this man after they had started it, & Madison actually had hit him in the face with her phone, (accidentally or not), is what got her slapped & rightly so. They then starting punching him in the face & knocked him into the water where they were attacking him from front & back. The only people Mr Mui cut were the ones holding him in the water while all of them were punching and slapping him. He did what he needed to do to survive, period. Clear case of self defense!

Ring in the lip, says it all.

@@brianrash9885 grow up.

@@dudemorris7769 So do you slap and stab girls to?

@@mydnytmover You must have one in your lip and nose. When you get drafted you will be forced to remove them.

She's hiding behind everyone else again like she did after she started it and claimed he hit her/

She chose to testify off camera which was allowed by the judge.

@realityreviews2314 She was drunk and screaming in his face instead of being able to de-escalate anything. She’s the main culprit that caused the entire incident. Hope she’s happy, but she’s probably being the same person that was drunk and cursing at an old man.

She chose to have her testamony off camera and audio as well.

@@lilithstribe figures. She's a tad melodramatic and clearly narcissistic trying to act like a hero and then falsely accusing someone of hitting her to rile up "the boys".

I thought that too.

Druggy

Flyover states love meth...

Drink, drugs and guilt

Because they are scared to death, because they know they fucked up and found out.

This. Instead we have a culture now where clicks by any means leads behavior. And these teens despite the tragedy are truly ugly when viewed through the lens of harassment.

the video doesn't show miu answer he was looking for a phone if he did answer im pretty sure most people would of help him look for it. but it does show them calling miu a pedo tho. then approaching them. so it does mean miu could of walk away or told the kids he was looking for a phone but miu did tell them. but that doesn't matter it seems the comment and the lawyers dont care about how it started. lol

He didn't come up with the phone story until it was all over.

No one knew he was looking for something. he ran up on them and stood over them like a weirdo, which is probably why they started making fun of him. he had plenty of time to say something or simply walk back to his tube

Sadly the instigator with the camera wanted something spectacular to post on social media, well he got it, and in the process ruined a bunch of people's lives.

He could have, idk if we have watched the same video but he is the one that walked to these teens as there were sitting on their tubes

he could of told the kids that he was looking for a phone when the kid ask him what he was doing. but instead the video shown them calling him a pedo. isn't that strange. like the lawyer don't care how it happen they only care about how young drinking and drugs. the video doesn't show how he fell. yet the lawyer assume they did something just because 6 people was close to him. its crazy funny how these lawyer decide to forget about the small details.

Well... not so fast. You leave out the part that HIS party of 8 or so (including his then-wife) was DOWNSTREAM a short distance, hanging out on a sandbar when he WALKED back upstream - supposedly looking for a dropped phone belonging to someone else in his group. The people in HIS group, btw, saw this confrontation, and did NOTHING to come and help him. There are several frames in the video that shows a very CLEAR PATH away from the teens and "group 2" where he could have walked downstream, away from everyone. It should also be noted that HE is the one that walked over to the first group of teens that were in their tubes floating downstream and STOPPED THEM because they called him names.

They did not allow him to walk away by what I've seen. They were so disrespectful towards a much older man! Killing anyone is never good, but the fear in his eyes was real.

What if that was your kid … cold hearted

Not the case. Not that it's a good reason but the women were told he was a pedi.

Aww his feelings were hurt so he attempts murder? After being asked to walk away multiple times… bye Russian bot

​@@looking4things669which is a big lie.

@@TheChitology Ahhh, that's the hate for the defendant. These mob supporters think Romanian = Russian. I was wondering why so many people love the mob mentality and attacking a person by themselves - besides the US breaking down because of hooligans like this.

@@TheChitology he's Bosnian and not Russian. He survived a war where women were raped by the enemy, and then came to America to be used for a viral Tik Tok video by Jawahn where they called him a pedo...and then tried to drown him when he tried to leave after confronting them about trying to make him look like a rapist online. Poor babies had no idea who they were dealing with when they tried to drown him for walking away and not performing like they wanted in their video.

He doesn’t like to reuse his knives. He’s always been superstitious like that. He planned to get another self defense tool later

@@philmccracken179 that’s the dumbest shit someone could have ever said

@@trinitybaker3214hey thx

Panic could explain that.

@@yarnpower then he played dumb yeah no.

😂

To be clear, they dropped their drinks very quickly once the target of their bullying opened them up.

Maybe if y’all dropped your drinks more often incidents like this could be avoided

Miu didn't drop his knife when he was knocked down either.

Exactly!!!

💯. Actually insane how many people are defending this lunatic.

I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not but I personally thought she was a good witness too.

Is there video of him punching the girl?

@@philmccracken179there is zero evidence of Mady getting hit, and that is the crux of this entire case. She said her eye was bruised and swollen, but she never sent pics of her injury to the cops, instead she told them she “accidentally deleted” the pics. They did a forensic search of her phone and didn’t find any pictures taken or deleted during the time of the incident or subsequent days. None of the kids who testified could even say which side of the face she was hit or how it happened. Both cops that testified said they did not see any injuries on Maddie’s face. Nic is 250lbs, if he hit her, there would be a mark.

@@l-train7876 I know. It was a leading question

Because the mob of thugs who were pushing him into the water were still there. You can leave the scene of a crime if you're in fear for your life.

​@@madsdee7803 he lied to the cops and said he didnt do it 🤦

Shock and disbelief as to what just happened.

The mob was literally walking around with baseball bats to beat him more, he didn’t have a choice but to float to the exit

@@FlyManChimerathis is his coffin nail if there were one

They said no prior charges

I can see it both ways. As he stabbed the boy leaned forward and pushed him backwards to the river. Losing balance his hand would naturally go upwards. Unfortunately causing the knife to also rise. But it is possible he meant to inflict more injury. Questionable

Reverted to prior training?

Nic was standing up from being in the water and yellow shorts kid went to lunge at him to push him back down again, but this time Nic had his arm extended holding the knife. You can see the stab happen frame by frame in the cellphone video.

EXACTLY ! 🤷🏼‍♂️

my guess is they had to due to the out cry from the children's family. Had to save face.

​@@sissysyme1334that's what I was thinking but if these were my kids I'd be ashamed, heart broken but still

Because he's a white male.

So you saiding if child was being unruly to another person that gives him the right to stab your child let it make sense

⁠@@sandraholmes2711you are allowed to stab someone who is pushing your face under water, yes.

He walked away towards the second group asking for help and left the first group THEY had to float towards him!

That poor man NEVER said a word, to me he looked confused as to why they were calling him names. Those kids wanted to make a KZfaq video. Heck, the one kid was steady videoing while his friend was stabbed and later died. He didn’t even help his “friend .” It was more important to bully this guy and film it.

Sftu

@@michelle7959 the one filming also won a scholarship from the foundation set up in the name of that dead kid...who he filmed with his phone dying rather than calling 911. He's a piece of work who wants to be rich and famous.

@@madsdee7803 Wow, that’s crazy. Didn’t know that, I wonder if she will feel differently after the trial. Mr. Scholarship helped instigate the whole mob that ultimately killed her son. I believe that’s why all those kids are lying to justify their actions on the death of their friend. The mom might want to reconsider that scholarship.

Stabbing someone for calling you names has to be the most snowflake shit I have ever heard.

@@ChristoKiwi Everyone who got stabbed are all who put hands on him. Nice try though! It's not up to you or I anyways. It's up to the jury.

@@ChristoKiwi No one got stabbed for name calling. They got stabbed when they punched him and continued to punch him after he went under the water.

Exactly! Words versus a weapon. Free speech and the freedom for a grown man to not engage with teenagers!

He did not punch anyone. He pushed away M because she was in his personal space, screaming at him and swearing at him. Getting in someone’s personal space is aggression and people have the right to defend their personal space. He was not just pushed down, he was punched and had hands put around his neck. Anyone surrounded by 13 people who are yelling and pushing him down and punching him would be in fear for their life. Especially in water where being drowned is a real possibility.

@@yarnpower Guilty on all counts! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a9OAeamjzLmsm6s.html

13 on one? You are as delusional as they are.

He barely swung his arm each time. Everyone knows the gut is softer than most other parts of the body, and that's where he aimed everytime. A "thug trying to get maximum damage" would aim for the throat or hell, maybe even inner thigh, as that has the femoral artery. He didn't even hold it like anyone trying to do a lot of damage. He has to swing his whole arm each time he takes a jab rather than reversing the grip and only needing to extend his elbow.

Thank you for your expertise on the correct way to street fight with a knife. Got some experience hmm....

Based. Don't mess with people. Never know how much they know or what length they are willing to go.

So he should not have used his abilities to stay alive?

Yes they were

@@rainbowskies5796 Then why were they all shtface drunk?

People under 18 are children.

@@rainbowskies5796 no. The second group who were pushing him down were in their 20's.

@@rainbowskies5796 The drunk "children" who were grown men? Stop.

I agree with you & despite what you see from the trolls online, many many others do too. We've been letting his online "defenders" scream the loudest, sitting back & waiting for justice to take its course & the jury to see the facts & make the right decision, which thankfully they have done. Now that it's over, all of his "defenders" will find something else to attract their interest & scream about & everyone can move on.