This is genuinely wrong. Market is whole lot bigger than few percent comsumer devices.99.99% devices you daily use or contact(from dishwasher to bluetooth headphones to garage door) are embedded ICs designed to be programmed and implemented in consumer devices. The problem is that apple highly benefits with things it literally trying to kill. M1 is impossible without ARM architecture. M1 might be a best implementation of ARM architecture, but it will never be comparable to its source itself. Unlike Intel with their amd64 implementation, for example.

See you in every m1 video

@@inwerp M1 speed is because the neural engine not the ARM cores, only A64FX is fast running only arm cores. M1 Need hardware aceleration.

@@theoneonly5368 Steve Jobs knew shit about CPU architcture and never designed a single circuit, never cared and never needed to care. Thats not the point, he was great in other things. The point is that ARM is whole lot bigger than Apple, Qualcomm, Microsoft or any other company who uses this architecture. Using qoutes by famous people does not really mean that you or any other person understands more and thus agrees because of knowledge and experience. If you rotate the qoute and look at reality, every hardware manufacturer who tried to go into OS market sucked badly on mass-market. IBM, HP, Motorola, Nokia, NeXT(lmao), Atari and many many others proved this qoute sounds good but it is not even closely accurate, it is great motto but nothing more.

@@inwerp it says if you are serious about software, make hardware, not the other way around lol

I mean, technically it does improve by 0.2x, but it's performance is 1.2x that of the previous generation. 1(current gen) + x(improvement over current gen) = 1 + 0.2 = 1.2 times the performance. Improving by 1.2x would mean, you take the current gen, and add 1.2 to it. If I run a race, and then the next lap I run it 20% faster, I only improved by 0.2 (20%), but my speed was 1.2 times that of the first lap. It's all about the relationship. One is how much extra on top of the previous generation, as a percentage, and the other is how it compares proportionally to the previous generation.

@@loganrussell48 exactly my thoughts

@fiv3 300% ?

@@loganrussell48 I think 20% increase in perfomance sound much less ambiguous.

...I mean, if i say something is 100 times heavier/faster/stronger, I don't mean 101 times the weight/speed/strength!

Thanks so much!!

That’s where you’re right

Spot on!

Went to watch that after this comment :D

Time tag please

@@theyeshhh Look at the ending

This bloke massively deserves it though😂☝🏻

What is holding me back is remembering the transition from Motorola to Intel chips and Mac gaming with Steam.

Funny how they all comment insults...

See the bright side of this: by the time you've lost those 85lbs, reviews, benchmarks and maybe even the M1X will already be available.

@@stkl23 lol I'm hoping it won't go up before going back down. It seems like the first go at ARM Macs won't be "great" but I guess we'll see next week.

What an absolute simp

There are 2 things for me holding me Back: I'm broke I don't like macOS

Might be easier to lose the wife :).

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Finally someone noticed 😀

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How’s the difference?

This is where I'm at too! Spot on. Hope it has 4 thunderbolt ports

I’m thinking about buying the current version of MBP 16. Do you think is a good idea?

@@DiegoMartinez-yq9tg I would definitely wait.

@@DiegoMartinez-yq9tg I honestly am thinking of buying the new M1 13”. Then when the new chip 16” is released, sell the 13 then get the 16. Because who knows when the 16 will come out, what if it comes out late 2021? But at the same time i’m waiting to see performance reviews over the next week of the 13 before making a decision.

@@Robert-dt3is bingo! This is what I did. I just bought the juiced up 13” MBP. Apple seems pretty confident with this new line so I’m all in. If it doesn’t work out I’ll just sell it. No problem.

Thanks, Daniel!

same bro

same

I think the boat you're in is filling up to capacity! LOL

@@archangel4316 and that’s nice 😊 isn’t it?

Good thing we get the first impressions in less than a week.

yeah

Pure cuckery.

at ?

@@anb1142 His JACKET homie

Where would one be able to get such a fantastic hoodie?

They’re really wanting to make the Mac seem like a gaming machine

@NiceGuyGamer yeah but no egpu

@NiceGuyGamer tomb raider at 1080p on a 1k laptop? Crazy you can already do that. Its 1080p and with 0 indictation of fps. Egpus are very important it doesnt matter if the gpu performance is ok. Some people need high end gpus.

@@humble2246 the M1 has 2.6 teraflops should be good!

@@NMEofdaST8 you do realize that something like a ps4 pro has 2x the amount of tflops.

@@humble2246 duh... it’s not a gaming system bro it’s integrated graphics on a mobile SOC 🤦‍♂️

I'm wary of the Apple tax once they have you fully locked in + it feels like they want you to buy new every three or four years. Not exactly environmentally friendly to be honest. I already have a 2018 MBP that now has a failing battery and keyboard that could be a very expensive doorstop in a year or so. As a mac user for 20+ years now I've already switched to a studio PC instead of the Mac Pro route for 3D work, maybe it's time to switch the laptop too. Let's see how this plays out.

@@billB101 I'd echo pretty much all of that. That's 100% Apple's strategy: vertical integration. It's already succeeded in mobile devices, why not computers?! Once you've invested all this money and effort in it, you can still get away from it but at what cost? And I come from a good position with Apple: I have never had a machine fail on me, and even my 10 year old MPBs run as smooth as the first day. But I know for a fact I'm the exception. Now I get mild anxiety about my next computer because I'm thinking it may have to be a pc lol

Computer interoperability is better than ever because now we have open standards and cross-platform build tools, etc. The processor architecture that is running your computer may in the future not matter at all when most stuff is running on interpreted languages like JavaScript or compiled just in time, etc.

@@SlyEcho it's not 1999 anymore that's for sure, and it's my hope this holds true. But... Apple isn't keen on playing well with others and if they can force you into the ecosystem they will. I realize the architecture won't matter all that much for files, but we already have sub-par file system cross compatibility (re: USB and SD) and on a more meta level, if apps don't get ported properly or at all, learning to work with a Mac and a PC could very well become like learning Spanish and French...

I love OSX/MacOS. But I am done with Apple's hardware choices. I am buying a Windows 10 PC with Ryzen 5900X and AMD 6800XT. All the Macs I have are stuck on an older version of MacOS because they dropped support for various things, not because they can't run Catalina. Add to that right-to-repair, horrible Touchbar and keyboards on the MBP I have, dongle-hell, loss of bootcamp, and that I have no interest in any iOS apps.

Lol, good luck with that fam. x86 support will be dodgy to say the least.

Daniel, I don’t know that you were around for the PowerPC to Intel transition, but the first Rosetta was almost bulletproof and Apple’s claiming Rosetta 2 is even better. I expect very few problems.

@@snazzy I've no doubt that Apple's in-house applications will perform flawlessly. Programs built from the ground up for x86 that aren't under Apple will almost certainly be a different story. It's extremely difficult to do. Microsoft couldn't even do it to an acceptable level.

Your company shouldnt be switching to apple's brand new architecture for at least two years. Professionals should not be Apple's beta testers, stick with hardware that you know for sure wont lose you money.

@@CharlieMikeNS he literally just said Rosetta was bulletproof so Rosetta 2 has to be better. Much better. Microsoft aren’t apple, they always fail. Apple doesn’t release something unless it works. They can’t risk it

There will obviously be things that a x86 cpu will outperform a 64 bit ram chip. This iteration might be slightly painful but it honestly doesn’t seem too bad. However the the more exciting part about this is this initial push from Apple is what was needed. Because now as history will repeat itself, Apple makes that first move and then everyone else starts to follow. This will be very interesting how it will affect the desktop market in the long run. You mainly just have Intel and AMD (not including IBM) and if the mainstream pushes towards ARM for desktops they are going to need to adapt. On top of that, it brings other companies into the realm of processors for both desktops and laptops. Microsoft has been very very slow and uneventful with their attempts, the surface RT was an actual dumpster fire and you couldn’t run anything on it. And just until now I had no idea Microsoft even released another arm based surface. They definitely can’t get any traction in that market yet. Especially considering the main pro at this point to windows is to have the most app compatibility. Where they couldn’t provide any type of solution to run normal windows apps.

@@IAmCjcj11 Qualcomm or Google should build an OS that will replace Windows, but as user familiar as windows. The OS market has been primarily not open for new players until now. This is the perfect time for a company to build a highly optimized open OS like Windows, and then sell it to manufacturers, make those partners, jumpstart the developers to build (if apple can port their intel apps to ARM, someone can find a way for developers to easily edit some codes from windows to the new OS too), and we won't be as reliant on apple no more.

@@user-ls4ng7fc7o there are rumours that windoze-11 will be a gnu/linux distribution - a huge progress for micosoft, but will be clearly the crappiest gnu/linux around for sure...

@@user-ls4ng7fc7o Google tried, it was terrible.

@@IAmCjcj11 x86 chips are ALL 64bit since the late 90's early 2000's except for the occasional specialist one. How will history repeat itself? Apple was late to drop RISC cpus (after even Alpha went under), LG had their touchscreen smartphone phone out 6 months prior to the iPhone, the iPod was largely bought off others (name, design, hardware, and software). I suppose having an 'open' store where people could submit their apps was new, but wasn't exactly open. Surface RT was terrible, it was an unmitigated disaster because they were trying to emulate the closed ecosystem of Apple and didn't spend enough time making sure it had applications. Big Sur will hopefully actually do what they were saying and allow WebP images and the other web standardised formats everyone else accepts.

so basically we can see GNU/Hurd in 2060?

which comic is that one? I think I missed it.

Will any of these changes make it harder to do homemade Hackintosh systems?

@@somenygaard a little bit harder, as in effectively impossible I would guess. Once macOS stops supporting x86, I’m pretty sure the hackintosh is dead.

@@somenygaard You bet your sweet ass! But in seriousness the Intel Mac Pro is going to have support til 2024 and after that Apple will effectively kill all x86 macs

I thought about getting one but the limitation of no external gpu support and only being able to drive a single external display was very disappointing. For the mac mini it's 2 displays max. And the second display is eating into your thunderbolt bandwidth.

If you are serious about DL, get a GPU ...If you increase batch size reasonably even 8gb dedicated gddr is not enough😂 if you want to try out DL just get a Jetson nano. This new Mac "neural engine" just has no serious position in the market

I am thinking of doing the same. My 2016 MBP spends 99% of its time docked now I have the iPad Pro, so I’m thinking of going with a Mac mini to replace it. Would love to know how it goes for you.

very brave move

Thinking to do the exact same. But I’m not really sure about going for the new M1 or go for the older model with i7 and 32GB or 64GB. What are you using it for and did you consider the older model/i7?

It look like bootcomp is out on the M1 mac and you steam will not be able to run.

Very good explanation except for one glaring error. 2.5x is not 150%, it’s 250%. Otherwise, you would have to change the 400% down to 300%. I personally believe that we should remove the initial on par 100% of the prior system and finish the conversion to a percentage number. Finish the math and let the reader stay on point with the article being read or listened to.

​@@dankosek4274 Thank you for the catch. I used unintended wording, and in fact, misunderstood the statement in the video. I'll edit the original post. I meant "2.5 to 5 times as fast" would be a 150%-400% improvement. Which is what I thought the video was in effect saying. The exact wording of the video was however, "All of these machines are increasing in performance anywhere between 2.5 to 5 times" which should be interpreted as 250% to 500%. Although given the confusing nature of mixing "times" and "improving by" combined with the context of using relatively large numbers leaves me unsure whether the intent was actually 2.5 times base, or 2.5 times more than base (3.5 times base.) It's likely to be kind of moot, as this is probably Apple cherry-picking the best numbers they can possibly find.

How are you going to outperform 100% of something? Anything above 100% is imaginary.

doctor smarty pants

More like week after next week. I ordered a MacBook on Nov 10, and delivery window is Dec 3-Dec 10.

Thanks, Curtis! Means a lot from a pro like you!

@@TheRealTommyR I would TOTALLY get a lower end MBA in this upcoming generation as a vacation/short-stay device to watch videos on. That battery life coupled with a real processor and not an Intel Core whatever crap.

Nice idea but only 13” screen size - might as well watch your tv/film on an iPad Pro - I do

@@johnwade7430 Well the 16:10 is way better than 4:3 on the iPad for watching TV/Film

@@johnwade7430 If you already have an ipad pro yea, but for those of us on the fence about it, its about 1728 USD for the equivalent of the 512gb MB Air M1. The MB Air costs 1249 doe. 1728 USD ipad pro is 512gb 12.9 option(1299) with 429 USD added for KB+Pencil.

or even "betterer:" wait for the M5 at 1 nm! oouuuuuuuooooooooooooouuuuooooooooooh!

I’m in the same boat here. I wish I knew what the benchmarks actually look like. I have a 2019 i9 16” 16GB 1TB but the fact that I could replace it with a Mac Mini for $679 for potentially the same performance and save $1,300 is tempting.

Should have waited for third party reviews...if your a casual home user, you won't be disappointed...but if you use your Mac for heavy workloads such as video editing, etc. you will be disappointed. The M1 is not much different than the A14 in the iPhone. It's silly to think that will out perform a x86 CPU. Plus there's a layer of emulation that takes place too. ARM can't run x86 apps natively.

@@GSP-76 But the A14 does outperform a lot of x86 CPUs?

@@GSP-76 you are wrong..M1 is not similar to A14 although it is based on A14..it is more like A14X which has more performance and gpu cores. even the previous A12X and A12Z perform much better than midrange x86 cpu..check your facts

@@GSP-76 Maybe, maybe not. I'm hearing for Office for example would simply need a binary that is context aware if you talk to IOS devs.

That sucks to hear. I guess theres no real reason other than there's so little people who genuinely need that feature, like yourself, that they cannot be bothered, or don't even realise it. Hopefully they fix it soon, I know how important it can be to some people. But sadly I doubt they'd put resources into it :((

Kinda like minecraft bedrock. Big ass development team yet so many bugs, wtf guys?

Did you ever gave that feedback to customer support? Because I get that this is frustrating, but people can‘t fix it if they don‘t know about it. I hope this will be fixed in the future :)

dictation...is it ever!

@@mrnik.0 Oh, yeah. I think millions of people have given that feedback to customer support. The complaints about voice dictation in Catalina are all over the place

You trust this guy over GamersNexus? Your decision

@@ryanjohnson9681 Look Steve is great, but he's mostly good for technical analysis of parts, thermal tests, and OC. Hardly the whole computing story. The most important part of computing in my opinion is software, the hardware is cool but most people trying to utilize computers need to focus a lot more on software. Apple has great mac software. Their hardware needed work thus M1. Macbook's and laptops in general have thermal issues. More efficient architectures + thermals would change a lot. I'm excited about these MacBooks and what future macs could bring. 'Dont buy a mac now if you don't really need it' Don't buy anything till you really need it. I'm buying this mac because I bought the mbp 16" didn't like it, returned it and now jumping on the 13" because it would drastically change my video and photo editing without lugging around a behemoth laptop with batteries, cables, mouse, table etc...

More like waiting for a raise haha JK

Honestly I’m afraid of it switching to minecraft bedrock because of how it supports all iOS games

One of my questions. I think if runs Java it runs minecraft.

LOL same. I love minecraft

@@JeanSamyr i have read about JVM already running on the dev kit but allegedly there are some precompiled x86 libraries that dont work on arm (duh...)

@@knechtnoobrecht-c137 well if moajang address this on the Cave Update I will be happy

Same! Trying to save up to move in with my girlfriend, I wish I could have both :P

Do not buy it. Get yourself a PC instead. Mac is garbage.

@@xenotiic8356 Ah, you have a girlfriend. No wonder you have no money.

@@johnhenderson7285 I already have one. I still want an M1 Mac.

@@johnhenderson7285 I’ve use both PC and Mac and I like both. Neither is garbage whether you personally like it or not. While there are already multiple desktop PCs in my house, we do not have a Mac. I would like to have a Mac for things the Mac is better at, and honestly the Mac would maintain its performance for longer as Macs have better longevity.

Facts this will be the point where I buy one

get a MBA now to get a taste and get a 14 inch later and give to MBA to someone else in your family.

@@SaruwatariMasahiro yeah not everyone is printing cash bro

@@SaruwatariMasahiro I’m currently using a 16” mbp, that would be a huge downgrade so for now you m sticking with this

@@willinton06 I'm definitely not printing cash, been saving up for a mac since 2016.

Thanks so much!!

yep

That’s because you’re math major. If you’re a marketing major you will understand why.

@@yogaexe I more than understand the salesmanship, and this graph is more than enough to convince the average apple fanatic to upgrade. good job apple misleading people for money

this trillion dollar company was built on marketing and not math

@@johnwills6452 Most people don’t know the signing of the numbers. They only know bigger is better. Which the graph has done it’s job. You can argue this or that but the truth is the marketing works. The people who understand the real number will find it eventually. And how is that misleading? Explain please.

@@johnwills6452 most people on both camps don't care about graphs and numbers, and the people who do just wait for reviews.

Air is a no-brainer at this point. Maybe wait for the 16" if you really want significantly more performance gain.

@John Ibrahim I couldn’t wait as I had a 12inch “MacBook” somehow I created a freelance design career making 3k+ a month using that weak hunk of shit, I got the m1 pro with 16ram , I couldn’t wait I’m just gonna sell it and get the redesign when it drops, Apple has grabbed me by the balls

It is the world's fastest processor released by Apple this semester

it’s quite close to being the fastest tho. it’s very close to the 5950x

I got the quote “when it comes to low power silicon, our high performance core is the fastest cpu core” Lol it’s almost beautiful how easily misleading that is

@@sheauiwne5294 lmao, no it's not

They've never said that lol.

yep covid-19 economy 😉

Seems the interwebs are full of broke ass cheapskates

I hear ya. That and their insistence on having NO PORTS. My 8 year old macs still work great and have more functionality. Not buying the latest most expensive laptops that they purposely have deleted functionality from is not being a cheapskate.

@@UmVtCg probably 'coz money doesn't grow on trees.

@@UmVtCg chill man

I am waiting until the M2 or perhaps M3 equipped laptop (2-3 years) is released, taking care of all those bugs, repairing the time-space continuum, or whatever other shortcomings may arise, saving money in the long run. Let the test pilots test drives those first releases.

@@uwekonnigsstaddt524 Actually it's not just waiting for a new major rev of silicon. Each new rev of silicon or hardware is going to cure some problems and create some others. My personal preference is to wait for at least one minor rev upon each major rev of silicon, hardware and software. As an engineer I've spent many hours in meetings discussing if we can ship a product with the bugs we know. We always hope we can solve it in software. Or if not solve it at least work around it or mitigate the problem with software.

Totally irreparable also

@@ernestmccollum2397 very true. Mostly accurate today as well.

I actually got bamboozled by the thumbnail

demuro is a snazzy wannabe

@@senorfrog5605 I know that. He’s a reviewer that honestly probably doesn’t even know to change a tire

Very comfort, much fluff

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I hope the 16 inch has a dedicated gpu.

me too. i can't figure out when they will release it. have you heard of anything?

@@brandonlarson5712 late Q2 2021 according to Kuo.

@@armeniancrusader301 the benchmarks show that the M1 has the same graphic performance as a Vega M XL, which is not too bad

I bet the 16” MBP and iMacs will have a different chip or multi chip. They always seem to use higher end chips in those products and leave the weaker sauce for mini, air and 13”. New Mac Pro will most likely have anew chip. M1Xeon? Lol.