Installing the Upmap T800 and flashing the Aprilia Race ECU map to my Tuono V4
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@gabroracing2 жыл бұрын
nice video, thanks! just a comment needed: the stock map for ecu restore is not actually pulled out from the ECU, but downloaded from the upmap server. In this manner you are 100% sure to always have the latest map update. So it's not really important to backup it prior to do the ECU flash with custom map. You can do anytime ;-)
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying that. I appreciate it!
@meteoroz9 ай бұрын
What if you already have a custom map on the bike and you want to back that up before installing the Gabro map?
@gabroracing9 ай бұрын
@@meteoroz no backup read allowed, sorry!
@okankarabulut0032 жыл бұрын
If that was you making the motorcycle sound man. You've got some talent!
@LizardHunter7772 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks for making it simple and easy to follow. This is the first video I've seen on the Upmap unit, everyone always recommends the open flash tab but this is significantly cheaper. Just ordered mine after watching, hope its good.
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I highly recommend it. It was fairly easy to work with and figure out. Worked like a charm, first time. No hiccups.
@RaviLal2 жыл бұрын
For the guzzi diag companion program is free and I upgraded to race map using that . Works great!
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
@@RaviLal thought about doing that. I don’t have a PC or Android device though. But I hear that process works
@whitelightning51672 жыл бұрын
Loved the beginning 😂 channel is coming along nicely buddy. From music, and graphics incorporated, and obviously the content. Eager to see the next one with the air box install, and then the results!
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
It’s been a steep learning curve, but I’m figuring it out little by little!
@black350Z2 жыл бұрын
I've got the same UpMap ordered from Joe. Waiting as they're on backorder. I'm glad I watched this video. Those error message trigger my anxiety. Thanks for posting the video.
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
Nothing to worry about. Just pay attention and take it slow. You’ll be fine. Let me know how it goes!
@MFizzle7772 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. 🙂
@gustavg.h.larsen397 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, just installed today with help from you🙂
@Ukmongoose32 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. I’m about to pair mine with the app and I’ll have this instruction handy during the process.
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes!
@ApriliaRacer14 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for removing the mystery. Ride safe brother! Oh yeah, Aprilia….FTW!!!!
@chrisritchie77732 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I just ordered the exact same thing from CBC. Just wondering why you didn’t download the Gabro tune for the slip on as well?
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
I didn’t use the Gabro tune, because the T800 comes with one race map from Aprilia, and one Gabro tune of my choice. I planned on installing the RSV4 airbox on the bike and using Gabro’s tune for his airbox. So I didn’t want to waste my one free Gabro tune on just the slip on. However, he commented on this video saying that his airbox is different and his tune wouldn’t work with it, so I now plan on switching to Gabro’s tune for just the slip on. Good question! Thanks for watching.
@LexPips2 жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 yea I was wondering the same, why didn’t you download the Gabro race tune instead of the Aprilia race tune, now I get why you didn’t.
@DriftKr6lАй бұрын
Good vid. What usb socket did you install on the dash to charge your phone?
@cwhitty05Ай бұрын
@@DriftKr6l it’s an Aprilia/Piaggio accessory USB socket I purchased from AF1. Here’s the link to it. Let me know if KZfaq blocks the link and I’ll figure out a way to link it. www.af1racing.com/2s000702-oem-aprilia-usb-socket-kit-2s000702
@dakoolguy111 Жыл бұрын
I bought a used ducati v4 a year ago with a t800 upmap unit on it and now I'm trying to revert to stock ecu mapping. In "founded devices", when I click on my unit, it says "error- device already binded". Does anyone know how to fix this?
@cwhitty05 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like maybe the t800 was used on a different bike. A t800 once paired to a specific motorcycle will only be able to be used on that motorcycle, and can never be used on a different one. The solution would be to buy a new t800.
@renestuder7925516 күн бұрын
I never hear about what realy change. Not even the seller can tell me, is there more power or more torque
@cwhitty0516 күн бұрын
@@renestuder79255 there is more power and more torque. How much gain depends on what mods you have and which map you flash to the ECU. If you’re looking for the most substantial gain, get the Gabro airbox, a full exhaust, and install his map that supports those mods. But it’s impossible to know exactly how much power gain you will get without dyno testing. But even then, just a change in humidity or barometric pressure will affect the numbers. Don’t get too caught up in the numbers. If you really want a true before and after, dyno the bike, then install the mods, and dyno again after you install everything on a day with similar temperature, humidity, and barometric pressure.
@davejames4360 Жыл бұрын
Hi,I am thinking of getting a sc project slip on.would this device be good anuff as a ecu flash and fix any problems
@cwhitty05 Жыл бұрын
The Gabro maps included with this device run very well with a SC Project slip on.
@CDLEGO2 жыл бұрын
awsome video! was thinking of getting the upmap aswell very interesting. did you notice the different in performace with the different map?
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Believe it or not, I have not had a chance yet to ride it. The weather has been either really cold, or raining. As soon as I get some warmer weather I will do a review. Stay tuned!
@CDLEGO2 жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 looking forward to the review video !
@1Axis Жыл бұрын
I'm considering the Upmap for my '17 RSV4 . All I have right now is a slip on SC Project Race Oval and the Aprilia Race ECU. The bike idles fine and is fast but there's a lot of juddering between on and off acceleration. Did you notice any of that before you installed the Upmap ?
@cwhitty05 Жыл бұрын
I did notice it has a twitchy throttle, but I trained my hand to be smooth and that made the biggest difference. Compared to the race ecu, Gabro’s maps feel smoother with the on/off throttle as well as power delivery and engine starting. Since you have the race ecu, changing maps isn’t a necessity, but if you want a smoother bike, then Gabro’s map can definitely help.
@MrFeltpyromaster3 ай бұрын
@@cwhitty05do you know if the gabro has bether fuel economy?
@cwhitty053 ай бұрын
@@MrFeltpyromaster I’m not sure. I didn’t really notice any difference. It’s like that old saying “as you get older, you learn to never pass a bathroom”. It’s an Aprilia, never pass a gas station! 🤣 just fill up every 70-100 miles and you’ll never run out.
@MrFeltpyromaster3 ай бұрын
@@cwhitty05 alright thx anyways reason why i asked i have racemap, and just wondered if it truly is worth the gabro uppgrade !
@cwhitty053 ай бұрын
@@MrFeltpyromaster I found it a lot smoother with Gabro’s map, so I’d say it was worth it for sure.
@adrianruckborn91882 жыл бұрын
Wofür braucht ihr in den USA denn n ECU Flash?Für eure Geradeaus Straßen ist selbst das Moped Perlen vor die Säue..
@stephenmurphy35122 жыл бұрын
Hi just wondering does the 2017 factory tuono model speedometer fit the 2015 and 2016 model
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
My guess is no, but I honestly don’t know. I would check the AF1 forum. I’m sure someone on there knows.
@salvadorvega98342 жыл бұрын
did you receive marelli cables? i might be very stupid but i don’t see how i’d connect them to the bike.
@salvadorvega98342 жыл бұрын
update: i am stupid
@jeroenstienstra1409 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Clear explanation. Question: does the Upmap also shutdown the Exup valve?
@cwhitty05 Жыл бұрын
All of Gabro’s maps and the Aprilia Race map allow you to remove the exhaust valve servo without causing a check engine light.
@Mafia2GTA4andCo4 ай бұрын
@@cwhitty05Do you know if there is an option to shutdown the exhaust valve in race-mode but let it remain active (like in the vanilla settings) in a different / normal driving mode? Would be nice to switch modes and let the valve be ON/OFF. BR from Switzerland 🇨🇭
@cwhitty054 ай бұрын
@@Mafia2GTA4andCo that’s a great question. As far as I know, the answer is no, but I think it would be something written in the map that would allow for that. I’m sure someone probably could write a map that does that, but I don’t think anyone does. You’d probably have to get a custom map for that function if it is even possible.
@Mafia2GTA4andCo4 ай бұрын
@@cwhitty05 thanks for your answer. I will ask Upmap directly if there is a chance. :)
@mala77942 жыл бұрын
why did it go from 14k rpm redline to 12k redline?
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
The redline has always been around 12k. I think the rev limiter is actually slightly lower than the redline, maybe 11,800, but I haven’t really paid attention to the rev limiter rpm. I think you may be thinking of the RSV4. I believe that engine goes to 14k, or very close.
@lfperformance2 жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 Mala is right. At 15:50 you can see the redline at 14k (12k is yellow). If you go to 18:00, yellow now starts at 10k and redline starts at 12.k, so there was a "loss" of 2k revs between those two screens.
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
@@lfperformance Wow, yeah that’s interesting! I think it’s because the ECU isn’t talking to the CAN bus. You can see the alarm at 15:50. When the ECU isn’t talking to the bus, I bet the cluster defaults to the maximum it can display. If you watch my walk-around video, which was before I did the flash, you can see the redline is 12k.
@TheChaz81 Жыл бұрын
Great video honestly dude! Only thing I would is make another video doing the same thing but using Guzzi diag! Lol pleeease! New sub!
@cwhitty05 Жыл бұрын
That’s some old school OG type stuff there! Pretty sure I’d need a PC and some special cables. I don’t have the Tuono anymore unfortunately, but I’ll look into it, and maybe do it on someone else’s bike. Thanks for the suggestion
@TheChaz81 Жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 Yeah I'm figuring that out. I'm brand new to Aprilia so this is all different. Seems like Tune ECU has something much easier but I guess the best way is to break down the spend 800 bucks.
@MitakaShun2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you were supposed to disconnect the t800 after the remapping? Or should it be left connected with the Ecu? Looks like there were other functions on the app? Just curious.
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
It is up to you. There isn’t much space to leave the unit installed on the bike so I removed it. There is a part of the app that acts like a dashboard, displaying speed, rpm, gear, and a few other perimeters. It is cool, but not very useful to me.
@johnbayliss10982 жыл бұрын
THANKS
@jerryx20002 жыл бұрын
so what difference did you notice while riding?
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I haven’t had the time off, or the weather lately to try it out yet. Seems to be really nice weather when I’m working and raining or cold when I’m home.
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
After riding the bike, the things I’ve noticed; the engine pulls noticeably harder at all RPM. It is like night and day difference. The quickshifter seems to be a little more crisp, especially using the autoblipper. The cold start tune is a little faster too. The fueling seems like it’s pretty good. I need to schedule a dyno session to see what she makes.
@jerryx20002 жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 do make a video
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
@@jerryx2000 definitely will soon. Working on suspension part 2 now, then I’m doing a couple of bike maintenance videos soon too. Hopefully I can get some warm weather to go for a longer ride, and I’ll do a vlog.
@lc500yyc Жыл бұрын
thank you for the video, do you know if this voids warranty?
@cwhitty05 Жыл бұрын
I have heard of some horror stories from guys saying Aprilia will void the warranty for people flashing their ECUs. I’ve also heard it not being a problem. I think it depends on the dealer. I’d say if you have an electrical problem, or a coolant leak, or something unrelated to the engine, they shouldn’t deny the claim, because obviously the ECU has nothing to do with a situation like that, but I’m sure if the engine blows up, they will deny it. User discretion is advised. I didn’t really care about the warranty, because I do my own work, and most dealers are so backed up with work, it takes 6 months just to get an appointment. I’d rather spend the money on the parts and fix it myself than wait 6 months for some entry level technician at a dealer with minimal experience to mess up my bike trying to put it back together.
@lc500yyc Жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 Yes I completely agree, it is the same in my area and I also do all of the work on my bikes. I was just curious regardless because my bike is still new 22" RSV4. Its a major pain in the ass trying to book it in because nobody else will touch the Diagnostics other than Aprilia certified dealerships which is why I bought a shitty laptop to do it myself. Thank you for the informative reply hopefully my install runs as smooth as yours
@lc500yyc Жыл бұрын
Just to follow up, I used your video as a guide and everything went perfectly smooth with my LeoVince shorty can and the race tune to match. Thanks again!
@slava_slider2 жыл бұрын
Can this tool reset service indicator? (spanner pictogram in bottom of dashboard)
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
That is an excellent question. I don’t believe it will reset the service indicator, but I will hook to my bike this weekend and find out for you.
@slava_slider2 жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 Thank you very much :)
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
@@slava_slider I hooked up the unit to the bike and I do not see a way to clear the service indicator. You can only view and clear trouble codes with the app. You will probably have to take it to a dealer, or someone that has a PADS system to reset your service indicator.
@slava_slider2 жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 Thank you for response 👍🏻
@MrHappy-oq7ot2 жыл бұрын
its crazy that they charge you for software when you already bought their device,why not go to a dyno then and actually get a personalised optimised flash instead of those generic ones,pretty sure every bikes is a bit different
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
That is a little easier said than done. It depends on if you have a great tuner in your area. The last tuner I talked to told me it’s tough to tune Aprilia’s because most domestic tuning software companies like Woolich don’t have the interface to talk to the ECU. He said when you tune it, the ECU will slowly revert back to the original tune. Sounds like a load of shit to me, but I’m not a tuner.
@MrHappy-oq7ot2 жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 hahaha i don't know what advanced software aprilia might be using nowadays but it does sound stupid...that is some machine learning level shit :P
@giovannisacco4670 Жыл бұрын
La mappa scaricata serviva per terminale originale… tu hai un terminale dekat… dovevi scegliere la seconda mappa…
@Antmanmoto2 жыл бұрын
@12:12 ....umm we heard that lol
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
Shhh…
@tadhgoshaughnessy66122 жыл бұрын
what's the price 😮
@alangolightly98506 ай бұрын
Dont use std race map. Use gabro improved race map. No need to backup oem map either.
@cwhitty056 ай бұрын
Yeah I know that now. My goal was to upgrade to the std race map, and use my one free Gabro map once I got the upgraded airbox. But I learned after uploading this video that Gabro’s airbox map wasn’t included in the one free map. So I switched to the basic Gabro map.
@alangolightly98506 ай бұрын
About to install airbox on my 22 Tuono
@cwhitty056 ай бұрын
@@alangolightly9850 I never did get mine installed. I ended up selling the bike.
@alangolightly98506 ай бұрын
My second Tuono and neither one any problems. Love these bikes.
@kingdavid201813 күн бұрын
Why sell the bike@@cwhitty05
@83Rafaello2 жыл бұрын
Whtas the results?
@cwhitty052 жыл бұрын
Only ridden it once, but it felt great! It’s warming up, so more riding will be done soon.
@richardmann4006 Жыл бұрын
Hey I recognize that area code. I’m in TR.
@cwhitty05 Жыл бұрын
Nice! I’m over in Greer!
@richardmann4006 Жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 not many V4s rolling around Greer. Nice taste in bikes. I ride a Panigale V4S.
@cwhitty05 Жыл бұрын
@@richardmann4006 I sold the Tuono, and trying to figure out what I want next. Panigale is at the top of my list, but this will be a track-only bike, so I might get something a little less pretty and easier to throw down the track. Haven’t decided yet.
@richardmann4006 Жыл бұрын
@@cwhitty05 you ever wanna test ride one that’s not bone stock hit me up!