I agree. Weird but so agreeable with nature and real usefulness

Yes, they're back. Should be unveiling the new and improved design, with even more impressive performance, in an month or so. I wanted to buy one the first time they tried. This time investing in the project.

Just released their promo vid, taking reservations now

Paul Moller kept his Skycar scam running for over 40 years... every ten years there is a brand new crop of suckers to fleece...

They made it

Looks like a very delicate vehicle.

I'm gonna use it to drive to work

@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again watch the trailer for it the chassis is built like a formula 1 car and stronger than it looks

@@saltshaker7504 yupp

@@johntease6782 good luck! I hope they come out soon

+Hugh Jass I think that would be cool. Have it in black so Darth Vader could drive. Drive it in formation and it would look like Vader with his storm troopers.

that comment sealed it, now I HAVE to have one except I would dress up like C3PO, so if a cop pulls me over, I would be all like, we are not the droids you are looking for, then speed off, and because it would just ve so random and unexpected that the officer would just double over laughing until his&her cheeks hurt

Maxel Tov

haha ha

Hail president Scroob! Sorry, it reminds me of Spaceballs

Honeycomb core of foam? What? Look at the shoes and the pants and the gut. This guy couldn't get into one of these cars. I'm sure he's full of it.

@@alext8828 You're epitome of rude and crude, and probably just a kid which would explain it.

@@Glasher1 No, the guy's full of it. Silica-based? And Citroen had a declutching drive that did not slow the car down when you throttled down. I think Jay is so polite not to throw spaghetti in this guy's face and scream 'Liar'.

And the core is foam? You mean like my pillow or like in the bathtub? And Jay is shouting. Every bump sounds like a fender is gonna fly off. What a tub. Half the power must be going to the a/c to keep that greenhouse from cooking Jay.

No. The new composite will contain various combinations of carbon fiber, glass, Kevlar, and hemp, depending on the properties needed the individual locations. The structure is highly engineered with computing tools and boat building experience that weren't available 10 years ago.

It’s too bad that you liberals can’t wait to berate this car because you really don’t want to drive an electric car!

Jay was risking his good driving record speeding 15mph over the limit!!!

@@briankirby6714 You aren't making any sense. I don't live in California but I've yet to see any Trump stickers on EV cars, period. Busted old pickup trucks OTOH...

@@briankirby6714 what does politics have do with anything? I think the people bashing the car are just know-it-alls who think the only cars worth talking about are exotics. Don't let them get under your skin. They're probably not even able to afford any of the cars they criticize anyway.

Some scams like Aptera can run for decades... there is another sucker born every second

yes 🙌🏼🙌🏼

Yes, really impressed by this vehicle!

Jay made this video 30 days after I took delivery of my 2012 Tesla MS. Both the MS and the new Aptera are still basically the same after 8 years; both are classics for sure.

You can now get on the order list...this is gonna happen.

@@DowdyDowd you were able to get on the order list the last time too. Just an FYI.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/paqXmN1ptqqle6M.html

Great choices. I have my reservation in too. I ordered the 2 wheel drive, but may change to three because it appears that it will be much safer in slick conditions.

I'm getting it in one of the base colors if it ever comes out, then I'll get a custom wrap, and change the wrap to something new every few years.

It's 2021 and Aptera lives. I pre-ordered mine in early February.

Aptera lives matter!

thank god it never happened lol!

the future that no one wanted.

james pogrebetsky exactly!

@@doktorbimmer why? I think this thing looked great, seems comfortable, fast and no fuss. I don't understand why you have a problem with it.

@batlin *Aptera was a vaporware scam... a fraudulent scheme to dupe investors with the false promise that electric cars can replace internal combustion cars... which unfortunately has become a common misconception these days.*

I like the sperm color better.

JIZZMOBILE!!!

It would steal the title of Most Lobster-Like Car from the Chevy SSR.

Red?

A greenish blue if you want it to be a living lobster.

dersertbluesman ggg, is

Eric Antone Exactly. Same with Elio.

+Eric Antone EVs have not be much threat to anyone in the past 100 years they have been around.. Scams like these do not pose any threat to legitimate manufacturers either.. cheers!

+Eric Antone Are you serious? EVs are nothing new.. they have been around for over a 100 years.. Or were you not aware of this fact????

+Eric Antone Nothing new or innovative here.. and that's why it was a failure.. Being different does not mean being better... Use your brain.

Aptera is a Greek word for a wingless creature!!!

Same passion for fraud... same old scam... same ugly little prototype... New false promises... already broken.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 they are making regular progress lining up all the partners to make volume production next year

@@danwat1234 That's what Aptera has been saying for over 17 years.. Clearly a vaporware scam to anyone who is not gullible and naive.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 No, for a long time the company was sold to some Chinese outfit until the original owners bought it back. The vehicle KZfaqrs are writing in is much much different front wheel drive the drive shafted version of the 2e. See the redesign is real it's a physical thing with real features

@@danwat1234 Anyone can build props and prototypes... it proves nothing.

BIKE HELMETS ARE MADE OF STYROFOAM, SO...

Its not Styrofoam unless it comes from Dow Chemical. EPS Expanded Polystyrene.

Aptera has never launched a new vehicle... it has recently given this old scam a make-over to attract a brand new crop of suckers to fleece.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Unfortunately, feels like the new capitalist scam is in electric cars, similar to the dotcom era in the late 90s. Most of these people aren't serious and the new one may never make it into production. The new design is better but still needs to be resolved. There are some details on the older version that are better. We'll see.

@@robertnicholls9917 Indeed, this new version of the scam is almost believable until you look at the technical specifications that they are claiming. If you have ever seen a 100 kWh battery or solar array and then look at the dimentions of the vehicle it's simply not believable. With no independent third party testing and taking orders from customers already sends up all kinds of red flags that this is just a scam.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I definitely questioned their claims of 40 extra miles with the solar configuration. That size would barely charge a computer (exaggerating). But definitely not a car. In fact, I think the solar arrays are a waste of time, especially if they're claiming 250, 400 and 1000 miles per charge. Also, they never talk about performance. They've taken a step back, looks like a high school test product and not truly refined. The concept is ok but it has no soul. It looks like a nerd attempt at futurism. I'm all for a more efficient future but the green community is being played for suckers by all the scammers trying to just make a buck without producing anything viable. That Nikola got GM for 2 billion is insane!

@@robertnicholls9917 Yes, I agree with you completely

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frSaiMeFr9DNfp8.html it lives!

They just raised over 3 million. Different people though.

I have that book. It is called Green Cars: Aptera, by Tom Warhol. They built about 17 of those original model which are in private hands. They will be the coolest things ever again, and soon there will be a chance to own a much improved version.

APTERA is nothing more than a fraudulent investment scam.

@@sandervanderkammen9230idk they’re looking more likely to release the real deal every month

+SoCalFreelance Take a look at elio motors

+Salman Chaudhri Thanks for the reference. An interesting offering, however it's clear much more engineering and design went into the Aptera vehicle. Something as simple as solar panels integrated with the roof to keep the vehicle cool/warm while parked are the touches I appreciated with Aptera.

+SoCalFreelance I agree. I hope Elio cars are going to have a successful start to convince other car makers to focus on something similar. Why does one person have to haul 8000 pound vehicle just to get to work?

+SoCalFreelance I guess there weren't enough people with $100K lying around to buy one.

+Salman Chaudhri elio might be a scam,they aren't producing cars just interviewing city's for deals to build a factory

Me too!

There is a sucker born every minute.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 LOL - speaking of which, when is your birthday? If you are still driving a gas guzzler ....

@@n.brucenelson5920 You have to be very gullible to believe that Aptera is a real company...

@@sandervanderkammen9230 what is wrong with you?

This new version of the scam is almost believable...

@@sandervanderkammen9230 people said and still say the same thing about Tesla. Instead of negativity how about understanding that it's not easy making a car company. Not every EV startup are crooks like Nikola, and this company seems to be genuine in their efforts, just had rotten luck with funding.

@@anthoslykos6294 Tesla doesnt make any money from selling cars... it's stock is over-inflated, millions of shares are short sold expecting the company to fail soon. Aptera has all the warning signs of a classic vaporware investment scam... and a history of taking money without ever delivering a single product for sale..

@@sandervanderkammen9230 we'll have to see and if they release a product. Until then we have to take it at face value. Also people been saying that about Tesla since 2013~2014 and just like Elon's promise of self driving it just around the corner right? Man how far is this corner.

@@gushergamer This company reeks of a another vaporware investment scam... and now it's using crowdfunding? Elon is the king of unfulfilled promises... what happened to the Roadster, the Semi truck, supercharching stations, solar roofs and even the hyperloop looks like just another false promise cooked up to manipulate stock prices and defend against short sellers.

Little has changed... this is the same vaporware investment scam it was last time.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I'm happy you have no idea what you are talking about.

@@halllwd94 I know that fraudulent scams like Aptera only persist because of naive people like you. Aptera's claims are simply not credible and the company's reputation is definitely one that cannot be trusted.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 So here is the problem with you. And the major difference between you and I. And why I know you're wrong and you don't. Your ignorance gives you the need to call people names on social media and you formulate an opinion based on old facts that no longer apply which created an outcome for a company that no longer exists in the same form. or you use word of mouth to formulate your opinions. You then decide to spread that outdated information to social media for whatever reasons you choose to justify your uninformed statements. It's a fairly common in todays world. Whereas, I have evaluated this company based on their current situation, their current statements and current claims and balanced them off of my own professional knowledge of how these things work along with my growing sense of investing, and actually sat down and ran the numbers on paper. I choose to spread a factual current set of information on social media. I also chose to invest and purchase an Aptera based on soley factual information. Everything not factual that they haven't already proven or justified was discarded. I sincerely hope you don't ever get into investing until you learn how to sit down and look at purely factual information. Surprisingly that same skill also helps stress management which can help you feel better about yourself so you don't have a need to call people names or spread false information on social media.

@@halllwd94 Naive is certainly not a derogatory word, it does however very accurately describe anyone who has been tricked into believing that Aptera is a legitimate company.

Elio Motors. Look it up.

wc5216 The Elio manages to look dorky, where the Aptera looks futuristic and cool.

***** No, oil didn't come after them. GWB's "great recession" put them out of business.

***** Yes, all the politicians helped start the "great recession", but it was money problems and nothing else that made them go bankrupt. But it's the Republicans that complain the most when the government tries to help companies like Aptera get started.

***** They went bankrupt because they had millions of bills to pay, but nothing ready for sale. And not enough investors to get them through it.

Aptera is nothing more than a fraudulent vaporware investment scam. The only thing that Aptera has made is false promises for over 17 years.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 2023 I promise you production vehicles will be in customers hands

@@danwat1234 Aptera promised 2022!

@@sandervanderkammen9230 redesigning the body to be manufactured by CPC group has increased the timeline

@@danwat1234 same old excuses... only suckers believe Aptera is legit.

That was a bit of misunderstanding. There were some test castings that had various faults that were crushed so they wouldn't test anyone to use faulty parts to build new cars. There are quite a few of the original cars - perhaps around 17 or so, in various private collections that were sold off when the company was liquidated.

His boy Elroy, daughter Judy, JANE his wife.

The Jetsons found Astro if I'm not mistaken. Do you know his original name that his wealthy owners gave him before the Jetsons adopted him?

Don Olinger Tralfaz was his original name and the millionaire owner was called JP Gotrockets.

No, NOT Astro, it was Elroy

Before he was cloned as Scooby Doo.

This company is a scam

Both Chris and Steve said they would love to have Jay come check out the new Aptera =]

I believe one of their biggest problems was automated mass production of the carbon fiber body. Normally the manufacture of carbon fiber requires a lot of manual labor which is why it's very expensive so the project was not only a car development project but also a development project for machines used in the mass production of the carbon fiber body panels and space frame so they needed a huge up front investment. Too bad they couldn't find an investor to back it.

Patchuchan i don't think the chassy was carbon fiber, it was fiberglass

No, the time is NOW for cars like this. I wouldn't care if I couldn't open the window.

sloperdude this car was way ahead of it's time

Combustion engine all way lets pollute!!!

Another year and Aptera has delivered nothing but false promises.

It's not a success until 2021 and people can actually buy it. Then we'll see

Its almost 2022 now and still nothing but lies and false promises.

I think that is a good idea. Since Tesla seems to be doing well, they could take over development. It could be like a sports car for them?

That actually isn't a bad idea lol

because it would actually be good

The Tesla car is amazing

And get 489 Billion from the Government and the $7,500.00 electric car tax incentive for each car made.

+Will Helterbrand No kidding dude. It's like the guy explaining it understands new technology and engineering, but nothing about cars in general.

to me, it is called FWD-cars-do-not-have-that-problem-on-the-rear-axle-at-all.... But I think the main advantage is improved aerodynamic characteristics. Also, driving a sharp corner, you only have to take care of the front wheels, couse your rear wheel wont hit the curb :-)

Will Helterbrand Nope

Actually when he is talking about wheel scuffing in a 4 wheeled car it is because of a "closed" or locked differential. Open differential is what allows the inside and outside drive wheels to turn at different rates (preventing tire scuffing) and still provide the same torque to each.

Invest $5,000 or more and you get a lunch with them

It is time to fall in love again!

I took his comment differently I guess. Sounded like it wasn't that he hadn't seen aerodynamic car designs before, but rather previous attempts looked like designs based on a typical car platform modified to be aerodynamic. This thing looks like a design where someone started out with an aerodynamic shell around seats, and then expanded that so it could act as a car on the road.

Probably meant the design is around aerodynamics, as opposed being around something else. The biggest issue with electric cars, beyond the price, is the range. Having better aerodynamics means you could get more range for a less expensive battery.

RealLuckless

The Pontiac Trans Am had a .29 coefficient of drag back in 1985 which is still pretty good today. To put it in perspective the Tesla S has a CD .24 which is one of the best in the industry.

Most people average speed is 40mph. Aero Literally make no discernable difference.

I've came to remind you that this exists

This scam hasbeen running for 19 years now... I think they are going for Bernie Madoff's record!!!

Now they are talking about production start in 2028... this is certainly a scam

Aptera is not a legitimate vehicle manufacturer, it is a long running vaporware investment scam. Beware, don't give any of your hard-earned money to these despicable crooks!

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Sander acts as though he is a spokesman for big oil. They must be shaking in their boots.

@@n.brucenelson5920 *I'm not the one promoting a vaporware investment scam YOU ARE!*

@@n.brucenelson5920 *Oil companies, like legitimate vehicle manufacturers actually deliver real products, Aptera is selling a headfuqk..* *It is a scam for stupid people with more money than brains.*

A year has passed. I see they are now talking about a few special vehicles in 2026.

+Brendan TV WELL. A CHINESE COMPANY BOUGH IT, A NOW CALL {{ZAPTERA,) THE GOOD CONCEPT IS GOOD, JUST WHEN IS OVER PRICES, THAT'S WHEN BUSINESS IS NO DOING SO WELL. LIKE TELSA, THEIR VEHICLES IS MOST EXPENSIVE BUT THE PRODUCT LOOK EXPENSIVE, SO WE GOT A MACH, WHEN PRODUCT DOESN'T LOOK EXPENSIVE BUT HAVE A EXPENSIVE PRICES.THAT'S NOT EQUAL TO CUSTOMER VIEW.

It had control problems in the slalom course. It was hilarious.

I believe it was bought by a Chinese company and they are considering a gas version and an electric version. I think they are planning on selling it in the USA.

It ended up stuck in development hell and as they not only had to design the car but all new machines for mass production of the carbon fiber bodies as well.

being resurrected? article from 2013. jalopnik.com/formerly-dead-electric-three-wheeler-aptera-planning-a-512605401

when?

+Noneovyer Business Indeed, very unusual for people of his standing. It's nice.

That is how he made his living.

Because Republican congressmen would rather bitch about Solyndra while they simultaneously waste a Trillion dollars on tanks and airplanes that nobody wants.

...ask GM, Toyota, Ford.....

ralphinator2 Yeah, I don't think so. Your numbers seem a little off.

Jason Najm Ya, my number is way too low. They have actually wasted about $1.5 Trillion just on the F-35 alone. Not including all the new tanks the army doesn't even want, or the littoral ships, or 11 carriers.

crony capitalism

Aptera is back! And it will be the future. Way more efficient!

you got that right it's Astro.

Rutro

Aptera and Jay are already in discussion about this new model.

2021 is over and Aptera is still nothing more than a fake vaporware scam.

Hasn’t made it to market yet but fingers crossed

The solar cells run the AC vent fan to keep the interior ventilated when the car is parked. The fulll AC is different. A lot of high end cars have that feature these days.

lol

*HVAC fan .. blower fan.

That is when it is parked... genius. My 2003 Audi RS6 does this with a solar powered fan, nothing new.

its on again

@@moestrei I'm so happy :) I am nowhere close to being able to afford it, but maybe one day :)

This one in this 2013 video is far from the latest model! The new one announced in 2019 is way better with up to a 1000 mile(!) range with a 100KW-Hr battery, thanks to being 2.5 times as efficient in energy use as the current Teslas. And it will do 0 to 60 mph in less than 4 seconds! More at their websites, aptera.us and wefunder.com/aptera, and on its Wikipedia page, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptera_3 . The first new design prototypes are being built as I write this.

David Lawrence I did. And Ive actually pulled up to that same FBO.