We need to resist the Chinese invasion of EVs! Yes!

So how much was it for all that more or less than a Tesla

@@jollygoodbeard13 The 250 mile range version starts at $25,900, and uses dramatically less energy than a Tesla, while offering thrilling acceleration and handing - I got a ride in the Luna prototype two weeks ago Tuesday

@@n.brucenelson5920 wow that’s not bad at all way cheaper than a Tesla and it self charges..and it looks cool a futuristic ..I wonder why Tesla can’t do self charging..

@@jollygoodbeard13 Tesla uses much more power to travel a mile than the under 100 watt hours the Aptera does at EPA highway speeds. We may see limited charging on the Cybertruck, but the overall rate of consumption is so much higher that it is less useful.

17 years now and not a single working vehicle delivered... Aptera is obviously a vaporware scam.

No that was airbrake. A secondary safety feature in testing.

Aptera delays production again... it is very obvious that the company is a just another scam.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 ...lol

@@ojomaze7777 yeah, Aptera is a joke.

I'll stick with my truck too...like your cuz...safety first!

I'll have to see the safety rating. I'm not dying for the cause, and I've had 4 EVs.

Those 2.5 ton SUVs are narrower than this three-wheeler.

There is a sucker born every minute.. that is how a investment scam like Aptera has stayed running for over 17 years.

NBC News exposes Aptera as a fake

Well it's 2024 and Aptera has still reached production... it is looking more and more like a big scam.

*_Crowdfund Insider_** issues warning to Aptera investors.*

Congrats!

As a 73 yo, I have also ordered about the same as Dean - but with the tent. :) I do NOT want to be a polluter and this fills the bill. And is affordable unlike the Tesla.

The original was more polished. This one is too gimmicky. I seriously doubt it will ever go into production. The original on Jay Leno: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdiBpKZ9t77QYqs.html

This is thevsecond alpha prototype. The original was production ready. The betas builds will be much changed

@@TheBandit7613 The original Aptera was ground breaking for its time. But the reborn Aptera includes the technical advances of the last 10 years. From wheel motors, to more advanced batteries, to the software and control systems, to the cooling, to the solar panels. Production is to begin early next year. I am betting (with my wallet) that Aptera succeeds this time.

Even if you only got half your daily drive via solar, that doubles the range of the battery. So 200 mile battery would go 400 miles and if were driving 20 miles/day, that's 20 days between charges. 20 kWh will take ~16hrs.

Did anyone notice he wants the vehicle to be fish like, but also be very ephishent!!

@@ehuckleberry don't you mean e-fish-ent? I'll see myself out.

My mother coulda used something like this, but she gave up driving in the last year or so. She lives around Las Vegas, which of course gets more then enough sun for a car like this. With how little she was driving before covid hit, would have been always full batteries. Just leave it outside after you are done driving around, and pull it in the garage the next day with around a full charge.

Get a bicycle, it helps to keep you fit.

What's funny is this is our future

@@kevinm9 Aptera is not the future... they have been running the same vaporware scam for 17 years now.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 And who is paying you to spend all your time here?

@@danielbtzibur8637 The TRUTH is available completely free of charge... I'm not selling or making false promises.

Jane will go shopping in it while Rosie feeds Astro and vacuums.

Aptera has made nothing but false promises for 17 years... if it sounds too good to be true? It is...

That is the problem....." We were looking for Department Of Energy loan ". Most of these companies runs to the government for money. They think the tax payers are a endless pit of money. If the company can stay alive on its own then it is not a viable company. The government is there to govern. The government isn't there to provide loans. When companies runs to the Gov for loans ...aka sometime it is called corporate welfare, it is called Socialism. When companies runs to the banks or private investment ...aka IPO or crowdfunding. It is called Capitalism. What we have today is these companies running to the Gov for money to fund their ventures and that is not right. We don't need anymore of these too big to fail companies.

Aptera has made nothing.. nothing accept false promises for over 17 years.

And ugly and dangerous.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I hope they fail because I don't want to be forced to have to be seen in something this lame looking. Can't they at least make it look good? I don't need something from the Jetsons. I want something that looks nice. Just my opinion. This also looks horrifyingly dangerous. One high speed collision (assuming it can go more than 20 mph) and you're toast.

I think its a very intertaining combination... Jay's a comedian and Aptera is a JOKE! Lol!

@@sandervanderkammen9230 that comment is only funny is you don't spam it in all the comments.

@@sandervanderkammen9230, Jay’s a comedian and you’re NOT!

@@martylucas8557 Good one if you can't say something with class don't say it is what a lot of people don't understand. I give these guys a lot of credit the small companies it is so hard to get a vehicle passed through all of the tests they have to go through these guys could make a lot of money without going through this doing other things

Jay is always very polite to those who come on his show...but is seemed clear that he was (rightfully) skeptical about whether they will be able to bring this thing to market. The guys seem very engineering focused but don't really seem to have a handle on the sales side.

And the motors are not in the car so it even quieter.

First thing that I noticed, the way we hear the host rambling :)

I have been impressed by aerodynamics since the Wright brothers.

Noise is waste and they have trimmed a ton of waste.

The difference in wind noise from my 65 Ford truck to my 01 Honda Insight is amazing. Taking it full morelli and electric has got to be fantastic. Only the sound of tires squealing around the corners!

APTERA has delivered nothing but false promises and vaporware for over 16 years..

...AND help the planet with ZERO GHG generated, reduce pollution and grid energy costs AND electricity transportation costs.and improve the quality of life for EVERYONE. we can get even 10 miles a day charge, I'd be a happy camper. as somedays we work from home all day.

​@@loftsatsympaticodotcAptera produces millions of tons of hot air. But no vehicles.. Classic vaporware scam

Aptera gutted by recent NBC News story...

It's 2024 now and Aptera has missed another promised production deadline.. it is obviously a scam.

Yeah, the world really needs more crooks like Chris and Steve.

Thats what fake companies like Aptera do.. They take people's money and then close.

Sad? get a life, Aleks.

One of the very few truly unique offerings in the modern automotive landscape. I wanted one then and I want one now! Hopefully the price is low enough.

I see the carbon energy shills are still resisting the inevitable. I find it ironic that the car that won the energy competition and the funds has not been heard from since. The design philosophy of the Aptera is not new - but very few companies have the cojones to initiate change. Go Aptera!!

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Spoken like someone who's never tried anything difficult. Go challenge yourself and you'll develop empathy for others. This isn't the Dale...

These are Beach/Desert runners

Its too bad this company reeks of vaporware scam like Nikola, Lordstown and Canoo.

Aptera definitely sounds too good to be true... Thats because it's a scam.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I would like to see some substantiation behind your claim. Always willing to hear legitimate claims from all angles. From those that have something to offer that is.

@@qaz9258 All you need to do is look at the scandalous history of Aptera... It may seem like a legitimate company at a casual glance, but dig a little deeper and you will find very little factual evidence to support that the company is legit. The truth is anyone can build a few prototypes as props and make claims that they are going to build 40 vehicles per day. The problem is there is no evidence to support those claims. Any questions?

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I read the article from Forbes Magazine. See multiple videos regarding this car and company. And have not once seen any claim of fraud or scam. Your voice is a tiny little squeak in the roar of humankind. If you really are interested in helping others and this really is a scam, then you might add some weight to your claim by including the source that you may have gotten this from. You possibly should have led with that. You might want to post your sources please, before making accusations. It is a path of wisdom

@@qaz9258 Thats what they said about Nikola, Lordstown and Canoo.... Forbes magazine printed a glowing review of Solydra too... its was personally endorced by President Obama. All sounds great when thw company is launched, the news media doesn't bother the report the details... and qhen they do? They usually get it wrong. Jay Leno did not select Aptera to review, he was forced to review Aptera by the production company.

Aptera is a total scam

It's been a year and a half since APTERA missed its 11th production deadline in 19 years

They have never tested the full range of their vehicle.

@@Okurka. This is true, but with the power of math and science you can have a confident estimate of what the range will be. I don't know why people have a hard time with this concept.

@@artboymoy Because the estimates given by the automotive industry are never exaggerated.

Having the windows down period dramatically adds drag as its suck air into the interior and not smoothly allowing it to flow over the sides

Lol - literally ! 🤣 I remember in other videos, how he has mentioned that he hates how he can't hang his arm out the window on newer cars. Normally, he would have made a positive comment about being able to do so, ( And he would have made a comment about the window being the same on the McLaren ) but I think he really didn't want to review the car. I can't blame him. He reviewed the car once, and it flopped. I think he would rather have review the car when a few are actually delivered.

LOL!

The cameras probably did the same (until it fell off!)

@@O-cDxA may be more of a realization of a large market shift and therefore undeterministic in "norms" importance.

1000 mile charge for like 50K is insane, I bought a used 2019 Chevy Bolt for 30K and it only does 250 or so (which will still get you about 2 or so hours, but still)

Same , but reserved the 1000 mile range version. I was a couple days too late to reserve the $25,000 version. Black looks way nicer!

@@DHT2023 : 🍊 🟧 📙 ✴ 🟠 🔸️ much nicer ♥ it

@@RandomAssaultPodcast But you can toast marshmallows over your Bolt.

@@skipondowntheroad5833 those s'mores came out great

Get a golf cart or a bicycle.

@@Okurka. Golf carts are not street legal, and bikes are dangerous to ride on many roads, especially in the US.

@@marvellous9652 How is that possible in the greatest country in the world?

It would be stress-free until hit by an F350. I still like it. Mork from Ork arrived in something like this

I kayak too. That hatch is the best of both worlds. I could use it for my handyman trade. And a rack would help for carrying light long materials.

Throw your long extension cord out over the balcony to plug in the car. Only to find in the morning some homeless man charging his phone with a line behind him.😅

You have to be very gullible to believe a solar car is a "realistic option"

@@qaz9258 neighbors would connect their extension cords to power their window ac units and battery packs overnight

I don't think their miles/day via solar are real. I think they deliberately didn't derate the panels to correspond to the real angle to the sun. I suggest divide their mileage by 2.

@@artsmith103 full day sun gives 20 miles of range that's reasonable.

Well we did not get the 1950s atomic car we were promised but we did get a nuclear powered car.

Appropriately, the first version of the Aptera was briefly featured in the 2009 Star Trek movie.

@@davidmaddon554 What nuclear powered car are you referring to? The only one I’m aware of is Fords design concept that never went into production (and was never likely to) so saying “we got it,” is a bit of a stretch.

... and now people are ready to accept the uniqueness, with households of 1,5 and online commerce. With a large flexible load bay, towing a trailer is not a necessity... And independence of electrical grid even better (with greedy suppliers and 'social scoring' politicains to cut the 'juice' at free will in the future...). KUTGW guys... 👍🚙

@@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 none ever can't be produced. We were promised atomic cars in the 50s and 60s. The nuclear-powered car soon to being produced now is the Aptera. Where do you think sunlight comes from? 😉 😜

Not much worry about fenders. This is an alpha vehicle. The betas will have changes to almost every aspect

Fake products never make it to the market... that is not what vaporware scams do.

@@n.brucenelson5920 Not to worry, you will never see a working production model... this fake company reeks of vaporware scam.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I swear you just like to say vaporware

@@sandervanderkammen9230 stop being such a troll

Jay's not actually driving... according to Aptera representative Rev. Bruce Nelson the Alpha version is actually fully autonomous... Aptera had hoped to use a Lidar scanner for autonomous driving but opted for a much cheaper system that uses contact sensors... they're still having alot of collisions but hope to have it sorted out by the time production starts in 2029.

Was looking for this comment lol

It's mandatory to drive like that at Jay's age.

@@rogue13131313 Most Aptera pre-order holders are senior citizens and will benefit from the autonomous driving system.

There is now the option to cover the top in full, as in trunk, hood and roof.

God help us if these wussy cars ever get forced on us. Nerd vehicle.

I think we have proven with the Vokswagen L1 that this is definitely not a mainstream concept...

@@sandervanderkammen9230 It is more difficult to develop a mainstream concept. For that You need to start doing what Elon Musk is doing. Very distressing work.

@@danielbtzibur8637 Elon Musk stole the concept from the original company founders, not that battery electric cars are new, they have been around for over 100 years. What Musk is doing is more financial than engineering, Tesla vehicles are actually very poorly made for the price.

Another year of false promises and no vehicles... Chris and Steve are lying crooks.

🤮

@@thefreedomwarrior Can I interest you in a legacy vehicle that won't be worth a damn in 6 years because you strike me as a mindless consumer

Its very unfortunate that the producers of the show forced Jay to review this fake vaporware scam for a second time... it does absolutely nothing for Jay's credibility in the automotive industry.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 do you work for Exxon? 😂

@@AshS85 No. Are you a co-conspirator in the Aptera scam?

According to Aptera representative Rev Bruce Nelson its not a car. Its a lifestyle activity transportation concept. Cars are meant to be practical vehicles for moving people and their belongings reliability from any point to any destination by road. The beta version will have a Diesel generator to charge the batteries because as we all know solar power does not work at night or in the shade of city buildings. If you are really interested in a vehicle that never needs charging check out *Elio Motors* The Elio is a much better design and they are actually starting production right now, Aptera is still in the early prototype stage and won't start production for at least 4 years and there is already a 17 year backlog of orders.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I totally agree ... Achates style diesel and skip the BS batteries, series hybrid as tech as an electromotive should be ...👍

Well it's 2024 and there is still absolutely nothing happening at Aptera.

No, look in front of the car. You can see the black thing come from off camera.

@@The_Irish_Rover yes, I believe you are right about that.

Aptera representative Rev Bruce Nelson confirmed that the rear ABS module fell off during the test drive.. while Jay was uninjured the vehicle was involved in a fatal accident involving a pedestrian later that day. The NTSB report shows that video from the show Jay Leno's Garage was instrumental in the accident investigation. Aptera is currently involved in a wrongful death lawsuit and served Jay Leno and Big Dog Productions with an _order of protection_ preventing Jay or the show from commenting on the accident.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Actually?

@@brugraz Yes, Rev. Bruce Nelson actually works for Aptera, you can see him on their website.

Yeah, its a great mix of real cars and fake ones.. like the Aptera

Lots o bots trying to influence jays audience too

@@sandervanderkammen9230 You were tipped off, but didn't believe it. How many more times so you want to be wrong?

@@carlsjr7975 Are you paid to promote Carl's Jr???

@@n.brucenelson5920 Aptera still hasn't delivered a single order... you are the one that looks like a fool right now. Aptera has already lied about delivery dates for the third time.

Fyi....we have had an FAA approved flying car for the past few years. The terrafugia. A few of them out there and in use.

@@user-jz3vc9kd2j ok 👍🏻

Paul Jaray and Wunibald Kamm would be drooling-that's for sure!

According to Aptera representative Rev. Bruce Nelson the beta version will be made from a new composite derived from recycled, biodegradable, gluten-free material called 'Love Resin'. Rev Bruce Nelson says that vibration that causes fatigue failure in ordinary materials actually makes 'Love Resin' stronger and more durable. This is because the individual molecules are emotionally attracted by the Aptera's love for the environment.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 It runs from unicorn farts.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 🤡

It's so exciting isn't it!

200 mile overnight charge on 110? That's crazy.

Tent reminds me of Pontiac aztek.

@@eletrik500e2 yeah its about 25mp/h of charge on a standard outlet, which is pretty awesome, most ev's barely manage 5mph of charge on 110v AC.

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Last time they refunded all the refundable deposits. It's refundable this time too.

Yep its a good looking vehicle and nice to see very low drag aero and weight reduction is still a thing for designers to consider

That's what windows are for.

Considering 7/11's do not have drive-throughs, it was odd to me.

It was actually designed that way because of aerodynamic constraints.

That was a joke. The real reason is because the top half of the windows experience high air pressure, but you still need a window. So they made a compromise.

@@CaliMeatWagon It was a joke ? Who does Leno think he is, some kind of comedian ? 😂

Open windows with birds chirping. Wow.

I live in scotland. Its always cloudy and raining here. We only sometimes get good summers but sometimes you woukdnt even know its summer here because of the cloud and rain. I wonder how a solar car would manage here

Being able to get that top up charge is going to be huge. Jay focused on not being able to put it in the garage, but being parked 8 hours outdoors at work each day will help a lot.

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 love the info and some of it holds up, but i have to disagree with some. I would recommend checking out their website about the solar panels or some the work NREL has done with solar cells. Ive worked in the solar energy industry and I don't know of a single system that wouldn't run an AC on a "perfect" day. I know that conversation could get super in-depth and no place for comment section but I really did enjoy reading your comment I just had a few disagreements with some of your assertions. cheers!

@@mrennick Leave it outside during the day and throw it in the garage overnight.

@@mrennick I know. Go ahead and garage it at night. Ain't no sun shining then anyway. I don't think it charges off streetlights ;->.

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 It will pass all car regulations for crashes, and safety. It will actually beat most all the cars on the road in most safety metrics.

It's very cool. Though it getting closer to a real hatchback is a big appeal. If I were scooting around town more, it'd still involve a good percentage of my trips involving carrying some tools or parts or semi-bulky items (cause kind of a handyperson.... as electrics go, I'd probably be wanting something more like a light delivery truck or little van if I were doing more 'house calls' but it's getting more intriguing now that the tech's good enough that these little kinds of things don't have to be nothing-but-seats-and-wheels. :)

Ever ridden a scooter up a mountain?

@@NeoMK This scooter has the power to beat a Porsche 911 in a 0-60.

@@peterjorgensen3 OK, take both and compete in the Cannonball Run against one another.

@@NeoMK The 1000 mile version is actually an interesting thought... It would have to charge about 3-4 times... Even if they spent a full hour at each charge I bet it would absolutely cream that Tesla that set the EV cannonball record a few years back...

Jay has been burned by alot of scams like Aptera... this company has a very dubious reputation and has been fleecing gullible investors for over 18 years now.

Its too bad none of they wprk at Aptera... after 16 years these crooks haven't delivered a single working vehicle to a customer... classic vaporware scam.

Sander is a classic troll.

@@n.brucenelson5920 You are a shill for Aptera, why should anyone believe you? You do you not disclose that you are a representative of Aptera and have a financial stake in the company.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 You keep repeating things you know are not true, but it just gives me another chance to say that I am a volunteer, completely unpaid brand ambassador for Aptera, a small investor, and an early preorder holder, because I believe in what they are doing. I have done and continue to do due diligence, unlike you who are a troll for unknown reasons.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 You have just given me another chance to tell everyone what I always have, which is that I have a small investment in Aptera, I am a volunteer brand ambassador, and that I am an early pre-order holder. Unlike you, I ahve done due diligence on the company, which now includes visiting the production factory site where I found a crew preparing the production line, and getting a ride in one of the alpha prototypes - which had amaziing performance. I will be glad to wait as long as it takes to get my own perfected version of the vehicle I just experienced.

Aptera is a fraudulent vaporware investment scam

The way he estimated 65-35 showed off his expertise.

There are a lot of videos on the KZfaq that show everything he has in his garage.

You'll never see it. And that's a bummer. I wanted one of the originals but after 20 years watching them dink around, I gave up. They have NO suppliers lined up and have an empty warehouse for a factory. Do you know what it takes to manufacture a car from scratch? Elon barely pulled it off and his car is practical (4 seat, 4 wheels) Unless they have an Elon billionaire supporting them, no way. I think, inside, you know this already.

@@TheBandit7613 Elon's first car was a simple EV conversion of the Lotus Elise, and it still took him longer to produce than Aptera has been at it. Aptera started their design about the same time the Cybertruck was announced, and they may even beat that to delivery as well. Both the no suppliers claim and the lack of a factory are false.

@@n.brucenelson5920 I love Elon's original Tesla as I loved Aptera's original hybrid. I think it was back in the mid 2000's. back then it was simple and clean with an ultra-efficient diesel. HUGE mpg range, perfect for anywhere in the world, not just sunny climates. I was prepared to buy right then and there. It was gorgeous. Now it's been over-tinkered with. Goofy solar panels all over it. I live in Vegas, I ain't leaving my car sit in the sun. It will take god knows how long to cool, plus it will burn the paint off. Goofy opening, ill fitting doors. Watching the videos, it needs a ton of suspension work. It rides bad. World-wide use is now limited to warm sunny climates. it would have helped if they looked for a partner like Bombardier, Polaris, Textron, ect. Now then, I do understand the solar panels. California has a quite severe lack of power with many areas suffering from rolling blackouts as it is now. And they have (foolishly) decided to close Diablo Canyon power plant. That's a disaster. Even with Diablo operating at full capacity, even in September, they are granting other power plants permission to operate without pollution standards as they exceed rated capacity to provide as much energy as possible. That's bad politics. Be honest with yourself. What do you think is going to happen when millions of people get home from work and plug into a 240 volt, 50 amp circuit? That's as much energy as a BIG arc welder that can melt 3/4" thick steel plate! Trust me man, the grid is not ready. Maybe in 20 years if we start now and work fast. Bruce, watch this: Michael Moore Presents: Planet of the Humans kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNFhZNl6kp3Hqnk.html Yes, that Michael Moore (Bowling for Columbine ect) You need to learn the truth about "renewable" energy.

@@TheBandit7613 I have ridden in the Luna alpha prototype, and know how it performs first hand. Do you know what alpha prototype means? Perhaps you don't know that Aptera has hired several partners - among the best in the business. For the suspension and doors, Roush Performance had 20 engineers who have totally re-engineered both the suspension and the doors. Take a look at the fit and finish of the last Tesla Cybertruck that was shown. Tesla started development of the Cybertruck about the same time Aptera restarted and began their design. Even with the vast difference in resources, a production Aptera may reach the market first. As far as power production, I have professional experience working at both nuclear plants and on and off shore petroleum production facilities. I also responded to the fires in Kuwait and other petroleum related disasters around the world. I understand the situation first hand, having lived in California for over 20 years, and dealing with the consequences of the fires. Over use of petroleum is a root cause of these fires, which have greatly increased in number and frequency just in the past 20 years. The peak fire season is also occurring earlier in the year. We are already in the middle of disaster on an immense scale and it is well past time to take effective action. As far as the grid capacity to handle EVs, yes, co-ordinated planning needs to be done. However, with V2G tech, a relatively small number of EVs plugged into the grid not only charge, but can shave 30% from peak grid loads. There are also long term solar thermal storage plants under development that will make load leveling and additional power even less of an issue than it is now. Such vehicles will improve grid stability - not harm it. EVs such as Aptera are a part of the solution, not a cause of the problems we are experiencing with inefficient power use.

How do you like driving your Aptera???

I learned recently that's is because the fairings are not complete. They've left off the inner panel so they can change around the cables and suspension. With that inner panel they are much more stable.

Electric car has no engine sound except of the tires rub/vibration on the wheel fairings that hold the wheel and engines on the outside!

@@briankirby6714 sometimes the commutation of the motor is barely audible, it depends if they are using trapezoidal waveforms or not, trapezoids can be quite noisy, but most controllers use sinusoidal or field oriented control

I was thinking the same thing. I also wonder if their mileage will suffer in the production model when they raise the bottom to be 5" off the road verses what we are currently seeing. I also worry about safety on the highway when a tractor trailer passes or you pass one. I would not eat get in an accident in one of these either.

Motors. Engines are powered.

Don't hold your breath!

I also ordered the AWD, 40kW/400mi model. I am excited to get it.

@@deanmcmanis9398 you wont...

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I hope you like crow because you are preparing a feast for yourself.

I ordered the 400 mile front wheel drive with the off-road, camper options with the improved sound system and full solar. Oh, and special groovie colours. lol

Clearing up the ground clearance was huge for me.

He asked some really good questions.

If that was true they would be available from other manufacturers by now.

Imagine this can go anywhere in the world that get sun. How many people in remote places can have a vehicle. The worlds first off grid car.

It’s a great vacation vehicle too. A couple of people or one person and a pet can go anywhere for a thousand miles, bring a tent and camping gear or a bunch of luggage. The purpose is the people, not the area it gets used in.

This is just the same vaporware scam as last time with a slicker, more polished presentation. Same crooks running the company again too.

@@davidmaddon554 Can't go anywhere in a car that will never be made... classic example of vaporware fraud

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Can’t change anything with troll comments on KZfaq. Classic example of a miserable failure with too much time on your hands.

It saves maximum 4KWh on a sunny day. If your power grid can't handle that then you have different problems.

@@Okurka. For me it's not about the solar, the efficiency alone is what has me sold. It uses so much less electricity to move that you can reliably and fairly quickly charge it on a regular 110, which is what he's saying would stress the power grid less than everyone quick charging overnight on 220s. I don't even live in an area with a lot of sun, when I read that you can get what I need for my commute out of a 110 in less than the time I sleep, that's a much bigger deal. I can't buy a house any time soon either, so it needs to work off a regular outlet that I don't need to upgrade.

@@JosephWall117 I have yet to see proof of their claimed efficiency.

​@@JosephWall117 Unfortunately Aptera can't offer any proof of its fantastic claims... it can't get production going either... reeks like a scam

​@@JosephWall117Still waiting... it seems the only thing Aptera makes is false promises.

pinto

Total vaporware scam.. Hard to believe there are suckers that actually fell for this same scam twice.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 what a looser

Stop commenting that on everything

@@davet.5493 The Pinto was a beautiful car design ! Simple.

Doing what he loves

but hes kinda Swacked in this episode!

The company unfortunately is a completely scam.

Aptera is nothing more than a fruadulent vaporware investment scam. They have delivered nothing but false promises for over 18 years

This old scam still hooks the suckers....

I love how form purely follows function here. It’s its own kind of art and display of genius.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 The engineering is sound, the design is exactly what cars should look like from an engineering perspective. The prior version of Aptera refunded all the pre-order deposits last time, so no scam then either. As for investors, Aptera has always been very clear about the challenges. Most startup companies don't make it, trying for something new and big doesn't make it a scam.

@@biffwilliams6191 Well thank you for confirming that you are not an engineer. Are you sure? They never paid any interest on all those deposits... What about the investors and creditors? They never got their money back.

@@biffwilliams6191 It is a scam if you never intend to go to production.

In Europe, plenty of people buying small city cars like Fiat 500, London is full of them, there may be a good amount of interest in Aptera instead of electric 500 or Hone E as you would not need to bother with charging while the cost for the base Aptera model is similar. A large part of the population in the UK parking cars on street near their house, so charging electric cars there is a bit of an issue and reason behind the popularity of hybrids, as most did not have their own garage or large enough front yard to park a car in and charge, solar powered EVs could change that faster than big investment into infrastructure...

LOL. Good luck selling this to Bubba. He won't be able to blow black smoke on Priuses with a car like this.

@@milfordcivic6755 I highly doubt the local truck yobbos are the target market to be fair.

SO, how do yo Transport a BABY or 3rd Person it its only a 2 Seater. also that Rear hatch is IMPRACTICAL for Fetching Groceries , to low hood.

@@markplott4820 LMAO, you can get groceries with a couple panniers on a bicycle. Groceries are not construction materials. They'll likely come out with a 4-dr version later that will be slower and less efficient. If that's what you're into.

Definitely won't make it to production ( i hope )

I was thinking the same thing. You take that long enough at highway speeds and those ferrings are gonna fly off. The inner openings are too big and letting in lots of disturbed air and shaking the heck of it.

It has a very strong composite structure, like an F1 racing car or speedboat hull. The production model will have all of the early prototype bugs worked out.

@@eunhyuekpark6159 As they mentioned, this is an early prototype shown, and there will be aerodynamic fairings that fully enclose the suspension, cables, and wheels and attach to the fenders.

The composite is 7 times stronger than steel.

What is an ice engine?

@@tomslattery1 internal combustion engine

According to Aptera representative Rev Bruce Nelson the beta version will have motors that become completely silent about 20 minutes after the sun goes down... The beta solar panels are so efficient at night the motors don't make any audible sound. When asked how this possible he said its true because Steve Fambo and Chris Anthony told him it was true and like Elon Musk they never tell a lie.

Exactly!!!

Aerodynamic *

@@dutmala Grammar Nazi *

Have a look at the Lightyear1, it's a 4wheeler 4seater, ultra aerodynamic and it also has solar panels on hood, roof and fastback

@@jfv65 Another good effort, but also $170,000.

I don't think this will ever see production.

@@TheBandit7613 I will be driving my copy next year.

@@n.brucenelson5920 I hope you do. Doubtful though. Even they know it.

@@TheBandit7613 They already have the funding for production( in Q1 2022), which is entirely different than what happened last time, where they were running out of funding right as the car was about to go into production but were still going to make it until they were removed as CEOs and the company scrapped the car and decided to make a 4 wheel car instead which killed the rest of their capital resources.

Its been a very successful concept for a long running vaporware scam... almost as successful as the Moller Skycar scam.

Jay is such a great comedian... he almost sounds sincere as he mocks this joke of a vehicle.

$20k? Where did you pull that number from?

There are no cars like this... Aptera is a scam

@@sandervanderkammen9230 what makes you say this?

@@Josh-kt9qh Aptera is a classic example of a vaporware investment scam... they have made nothing but false promises for over 17 years.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Both your assertions are false. Put up or shut up.

@Josh he assumes since they failed to bring it to market previously it's a scam. There's a lot of shady start ups. I don't think Aptera is one of them. They are clearly devoted to bringing the vehicle to market.

You can DC fast charge too just like any tesla on a road trip.

@@peterjorgensen3 Tesla makes real cars... Aptera is nothing more than a vaporware scam.

and failing

@@ganjaman59650 isn’t it a bit early to say that

@@ganjaman59650 I wouldn't say 10,000 orders is a failure would you?

13,000 now and growing.

@@ganjaman59650 They already have enough investor funds to be in production for years. Failure is basically an impossibility.

I agree. When you're home it's often going to be nighttime anyway so it doesn't matter if it's in the garage.

You obviously have no idea how expensive it is for businesses to install that much charging for its employee's. Its all fun and games until you realize the cost of pulling another leg of power off the grid is going to involve the installation of transformers.

@@davefroman4700 He was talking about the charge from the solar panels being picked up in the work parking lot. Also, parking lots in general are huge opportunities for solar power, and they’d provide shade so people wouldn’t have to climb into microwave ovens at the end of the day. That’s also before getting into snow and weather damage to the pavement that gets prevented.

Some people can park on the roof of their garage at work though, so this seems like an easy way to recoup some time of it charging.

Unfortunately Aptera is no closer to production than it was 17 years ago which sheds serious doubt that company is even legitimate. Aptera is not even listed as vehicle manufacturer and cannot legally sell vehicles.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Sander sheds serious doubt that he is legitimate by posting outright lies that everyone who goes to the public record can see are lies for themselves. My wife and I will be driving our own next year.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Absolutely wrong. Im dissapointed in Aptera and am not much of a fan of their long stretch to get here......but 17 years ago it was an idea in a fully different world. 12 years ago they had 1 rough model. Now they are in a new facility, have a bunch of new employees, have 10+ test models being built and are enrolled OFFICIALLY for crash testing with the NHTSA and passed DOT certificatioons for lighting...and they regained their license as a prototype manufacturer(which anyone can do at home easily,a nd see in public record) almost 3 years ago. They actually are a LOT closer than you think, and already have a couple Alphas in peoples hands ...Rich Rebuilds went and visited their shop and showed their test models actually being built and them prepping them to be tested

@@n.brucenelson5920 *You are a liar Bruce... you said you would be driving your Aptera THIS YEAR!!!*

@@Shadow0fd3ath24 You are very gullible and naive if you think Aptera has any serious design to deliver a working vehicle to its pre-order customers. Aptera is not a real vehicle manufacturer and there is no evidence to support that they ever will be. Aptera is not registered to legally sell any vehicle that is legal to drive on the highway.

These guys aren't the founders. I think they aren't trustworthy. Here's the original with the real founder: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdiBpKZ9t77QYqs.html

@@TheBandit7613 hmm, according to their website & wiki, these guys are founders of the original 2005 company.

Still nothing but a vaporware scam

@@SamBirchenough I don't know who anyone is. I do know the original Aptera was more marketable and more finished. Wasn't full of gimmicks. They will go nowhere. Elon has enthusiasm. These guys have none. It's not easy to found a new car company. The original had nice mirrors, door handles, the front fenders didn't flop around, had a nice plug in, doors stayed open ect.

@@TheBandit7613 i agree that this seems to be light years away from being production ready, and it would have been nice to hear about their manufacturing infrastructure & plans.

Unfortunately Jay is forced by the production company to review alot of vehicles from dubious companies like Elio, Aptera and Canoo.. Jay did a special feature on Canoo, the company is currently under federal investigation for fruad.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 yeah sure, the company being contracted by nasa for astronaut transport vehicles is under investigation for fraud. Riiiiiight 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@Slayer-xi7pu Canoo is is under federal investigation for fraud by the SEC and is also being sued by its shareholders for investment fraud.

Jay has an amazing talent

Wholesome big chungos 100 keanu reaves

Lol, I thought that was pieces falling off the car.

that was part of the fender, the entire thing keeps rattling so much it will eventually weaken, crack and break off, they need to be stronger. and i love how he keeps saying "a car you never need to plug in" you only get 20 miles of charging per 12 hour day, it would take 2 weeks outside for it to fully charge to full from 0, 7 days if you add the rear hatch charging roof that is an extra 25,000 dollars

It sounds very rattle-y the entire video.

I just noticed a change in the go-pro mountings. So funny. It obviously was not one take.

@@breakingames7772 SO MUCH misinformation here. 1: that was definitely not the rear fender. If you pause it at the right frame, you can see the lens of the camera. 2: unless you're going on a road trip, you probably don't need more than 20-40 miles per day. That means you either never have to charge, or maybe if drive a little further / live in a darker area and drain 10 miles a day, once every few months. 3. Solar costs $900 NOT $25,000! range goes from 400 miles at $25k to 1000 miles at $49k. This is probably what you're referring to.

Brake oil needs to be replaced every 2 years.

BEWARE of Aptera! these guys are crooks.

This is a very old type of vaporware scam... Aptera has been making false promises for over 17 years

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Interesting comment since the current Aptera Motors was only founded in 2019. Sander has not done his due diligence and would rather spread FUD and insult people.

Beware of Bruce Nelson he is a lying shill for Aptera.

@@n.brucenelson5920 I've been following Aptera for over 10yrs. I was even hoping to get a hybrid if it could manage my weather. My latest theory is Aptera hopes to sell the company, not vehicles.

@@artsmith103 The original founders lost control of their company in 2009, when the Idealablab appointed CEO was able to throw them off the board with the help of Google and some other large investors. Now that they have it back, they are not about to lose control again, in my opinion. They are moving at light speed in a difficult supply environment - even faster than Tesla, in spite of having far fewer resources at the moment. I think we are going to hear wonderful reports regarding gamma from the upcoming show, I am hoping they get that government loan, the way Tesla did, and in a more timely fashion. I don't think we will see management trying to unload their dreams.

Its too bad Aptera is a fictional story just like the Jetsons...