aptX Adaptive shocked us! Vivo TWS Neo "review"!

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We got our hands on the world's first true wireless earbuds (more like earphones) with aptX Adaptive codec for its Bluetooth audio. It's technically combining both aptX Low Latency and aptX HD together, and the audio latency is just amazing.
#Qualcomm #aptX #latency
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@yoonkung
@yoonkung 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know "Creative bt-w3" bluetooth transmitter? you can manually choose between aptx , aptx hd, aptx ll and sbc by pressing the button. I wonder will it work with aptx adaptive supported wireless earphone though?
@waalizargar5172
@waalizargar5172 3 жыл бұрын
Please tell me which latency is better? The dual channel transmission codec that vivo tws neo uses by default and claims latency of around 88 ms or the latency of the aptx adaptive when used with the vivo tws neo?
@muhammadsyukri5006
@muhammadsyukri5006 2 жыл бұрын
My tws use qcc3046 chip, my device was x60 pro Qualcomm 870. But at developer option i only got normal aptx version not hd nor adaptive. So my question was is my phone or the tws don't support the codec?
@bigdoor64
@bigdoor64 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, at 3:35 your time for aptx LL seems very high. Higher than the result you showed for the gulikit adapter + ROG phone a few months ago (that was 88 ms loudspeaker, 150 ms aptx LL. Where as this video shows close to 150 ms loudspeaker and 300 ms aptx LL). Can you think of any reason for this? Seems to be that aptx LL was comparable to audio jack but is now 100%< slower. Great vid!
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the comment. There are a few things at play here. The ROG Phone that we originally tested with was the ROG Phone 2 (if I remember correctly) and the one shown here is the ROG Phone 3. As for the discrepancy in the results, I can't really justify since there are software updates which might change how fast the audio is played when the audio chip received the command. And since there are many variable factors that can affect the result which we cannot control, we have to redo all our tests per audio delay test, which takes a really long time. I hope this answers your question
@uchi.
@uchi. 3 жыл бұрын
AHA PERFECT FOR MY RESEARCH THANK YOU
@zfnchannel2019
@zfnchannel2019 3 жыл бұрын
Hi bos, so i got this pair of tws that supports aptx adaptive, but my smartphone only support aptx basic. does my device can get full advantage of the aptx adaptive? because I read on the qualcomm website it is back compatible with aptx basic & HD, so in theory I still can take advantage of the feature, correct me if I'm wrong Thanks bos!
@zaudanaung5466
@zaudanaung5466 3 жыл бұрын
Some selected vivo devices you will get full advantage of sound .other than that you will get normal audio quality with bluetooth connections.But I haven't try out with my iphone yet .May be sound quality depending on handsets too
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
If your phone only support basic aptX then this TWS will "become" aptX basic to work with your phone.
@zfnchannel2019
@zfnchannel2019 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info 👍👍
@SwrdBreak
@SwrdBreak 3 жыл бұрын
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@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
That's a fantastic question actually. Honestly, I have not tried that particular scenario. By theory, you should be getting low latency, but I can't guarantee that.
@ProjectPewgf
@ProjectPewgf Жыл бұрын
Spon on comparison/difference between aptx ll/hd vs what we have now an evolved/merged codec derived from former codecs called Aptx adaptive which itself is a big giveaway in describing these two codecs as they called it 'adaptive' whilst comparing it with their older hd/ll aptx codecs.
@BFmeister
@BFmeister 3 жыл бұрын
Which one has lower latency Razer hammerhead TWS or Vivo TWS Neo? Razer says they have 60ms and Vivo says they have 88ms, is this correct? Thanks for your great reviews...
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never trust the company's own testing methodologies and numbers. From what we've tested before, the Razer Hammerhead TWS has really bad latency even in game mode. But, the Vivo TWS Neo can only have low latency if your device supports aptX Adaptive.
@BFmeister
@BFmeister 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech Thanks for answering. I think about getting Vivo TWS Neo for my ROG 2 but I wonder if I should get gulikit instead with aptx ll or wait for better options to be revealed. Well I wait future reviews from you. Thanks again.
@bluemuffin6160
@bluemuffin6160 10 ай бұрын
Please test with aptx adaptive transmitter.
@waalizargar5172
@waalizargar5172 3 жыл бұрын
Are these good for competitive pubg mobile players?
@brothatwasepic
@brothatwasepic Жыл бұрын
How do you lock your APTX Adaptive to HD at the highest bitrate just like you can lock LDAC to 990Kbps
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech Жыл бұрын
There's an option in the developer options.
@brothatwasepic
@brothatwasepic Жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech thanks so much.
@RonaldoGuedes
@RonaldoGuedes 3 жыл бұрын
Does it have the new Bluetooth codec called "LC3" that comes from the new Bluetooth 5.2?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
No, supports aptX Adaptive, aptX Classic, the usual AAC and SBC only. Also no Bluetooth 5.2 - the aptX codec is quite independent of Bluetooth versions.
@matteventu
@matteventu 3 жыл бұрын
LC3 is for BLE only, not for Bluetooth Classic. At the moment, there are still no earphones that use Bluetooth 5.2 LE Audio.
@amasha88
@amasha88 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, which can transfer more quality audio, APT-X HD or APT-X Adaptive ? Thanks
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
I think they're both more or less the same. aptX HD is locked at a high bitrate, hence higher delay. aptX Adaptive has variable bitrate so it can go lower bitrate for lower latency when needed.
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
I should also mention that aptX Adaptive is a combination of aptX Low Latency and aptX HD
@themockingjay3173
@themockingjay3173 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that this neo tws has more feature and great sound when it's paired with x50 ... So if you buy this stuff and it phone not x50 it just regular tws with middle low price category ... Is that right ?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Yea nothing special when pairing this to the Vivo X50 Pro. And more like... you can get the low-latency feature from the TWS Neo on other phones too. But if you don't care about this low-latency feature, then you can some more worthy TWS in the market. The TWS Neo is not that affordable, honestly.
@themockingjay3173
@themockingjay3173 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech @Nasi Lemak Tech based on your experience which one the best (half in ear) tws at this moment with that price ?? I never tried other tws .. I know that tws (in ear) will be worthed but for me half in ear more useful .. I still find which one is worthy , does the galaxy buds worthed ? How's about the quality sound ?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
The Galaxy Buds aren't half in-ear though. I think my top rated TWS that we've reviewed this year are: 1. Galaxy Buds+ (in-ear design) 2. Jabra Elite 75t or Elite Active 75t (in-ear design) 3. OPPO TWS Neo (half in-ear)
@shavind
@shavind 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Can you help me? I'm currently looking for a affordable phone under RM600 do you have any recommendations. I'm currently looking at Realme C3 . Is it a good phone? I am currently using Vivo V5 it's a eh phone because the battery really sucks. I'll give you a example, I'm a gamer I like to play PUBGM and I can't even finish like 2 matches.
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly speaking, for that price budget, Realme C3 is good enough though I suggest you save some more money and get the POCO X3 NFC. That'll much more worth it.
@shavind
@shavind 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@shavind
@shavind 3 жыл бұрын
Well the thing is where can I get it from. I prefer to go to the shop to but it because I want to exchange my phone for it.
@user-zy9og9lv6q
@user-zy9og9lv6q 3 жыл бұрын
How did you change mi9's aptx adaptive mode to low latency?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Can't explicitly change it. It'll automatically change to low latency.
@user-zy9og9lv6q
@user-zy9og9lv6q 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech When does mi9 go into low latency mode?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
When you enter a game. It's dictated by the Android OS whether to go low latency or go high quality mode.
@user-zy9og9lv6q
@user-zy9og9lv6q 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech Thanks!
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Glad that helps. aptX codecs can be overwhelming now since it has a few different versions.
@zaudanaung5466
@zaudanaung5466 3 жыл бұрын
Does it sound good with iphone 11 or watching Netflix. I m looking for bass
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
If you want bass, don't get this. Get the HONOR or Huawei ones, hey have really heavily boosted bass.
@zaudanaung5466
@zaudanaung5466 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for reply 😊I m big fan of your .Do you recommend Honor magic ear buds for iPhone 11 .I like music alot and more to audiophile guy but on budget😅Should I go Huawei freebud 3i for sound quality
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Huawei FreeBuds is exactly the same as the HONOR Magic Earbuds though. For iPhone users, I suggest you don't buy any of these as there is no app for iPhones to tune the extra features.
@kangsterizer
@kangsterizer 3 жыл бұрын
my understanding is that apt-x adaptive is combining apt-x hd at different bitrates to increase range, not to reduce delay / not low latency. sadly it does replace apt-x ll on products.
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
aptX Adaptive is a combination of both aptX HD and LL
@balabak2177
@balabak2177 2 жыл бұрын
Its an adaptive...when you use ur phone for music or video it change to hd..if you play games it change to low latency....that mean adapt is
@zaudanaung5466
@zaudanaung5466 3 жыл бұрын
Did you test with iPhone 11 too .How the sound quality
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, we don't have an iPhone to test with :(
@zaudanaung5466
@zaudanaung5466 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech Admin since you own alot earbuds can you sell this one at discount price 😁previous I bought Huawei freebuds 3i that you mention 😅noise cancellation is just 60 percent effective with 60%volume. If higher volume more than 70 % the sound become too sharp .well the earbud itself is nice but nowhere near truly active noise cancellation .Even Samsung glaxy buds R170 can easily beat freebud 3i .sadly I lost my Samsung Galaxy buds and I sold of freebud 3i too Huawei user already
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
@@zaudanaung5466 What are you looking for? We do have quite a lot with us, honestly.
@zaudanaung5466
@zaudanaung5466 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech 😁I m looking for try out Vivo tws neo .if sound good with my iphone I wouldn't mind to get it.i think previously freebud 3i I own was not satisfied with sound quality.i wanted to know this vivo tws sound good or not because I don't want to risk buying again😅I m waiting for airpod 3 relase .they said you will get spatial audio for $150 lol.meanwhile I still want to have earbud any brand that sound good balance
@muttirehman3714
@muttirehman3714 3 жыл бұрын
Will aptx adaptive work for mu mi9t?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
It should appear in the developer options but as for how well aptX Adaptive works with the Mi 9T, I can't tell.
@muttirehman3714
@muttirehman3714 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech actually I want to buy vivo tws only if mi9T supports aptx adaptive.. In developer options that option available. But I don't know if it will work on not..
@muttirehman3714
@muttirehman3714 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech plz tell me what's the difference in aptx only and aptx adaptive?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
aptX is also referred to as "Classic aptX" now and it's pretty much just a basic version of aptX with a fixed bitrate. aptX Adaptive is a combination between aptX, aptX HD, and also aptX Low Latency - so it can switch between all the bitrates dynamically according to what's going on with the phone. TBH, aptX Adaptive is still in its very early stage so wait a while, there might be more products with aptX Adaptive coming soon.
@Shinouray91
@Shinouray91 3 жыл бұрын
Ranking for vivo tws neo?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty ordinary overall. Just the aptX Adaptive is special.
@read005
@read005 2 жыл бұрын
aptX Adaptive did pop out from other brand after few month...sadly no transmitter which run the codec for pc/xbox/ps5/switch/etc, yet might need few month or so... (there is receiver, but, that is not what am i looking for) Thank you for the informative video. Searching for stuff regarding aptx/ldac latency thingy did lead me to this channel.
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! You can get some aptX transmitters from Ugreen and the likes. But it's not elegant - lots of cables will dangle around
@read005
@read005 2 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech what i meant is transmitter specifically mention "aptx adaptive" codec in it....have been searching almost everywhere (lazada, shopee, aliexpress, amazon ) for the transmitter.....did looked at ugreen transmitter but none of them have "aptx adaptive" in it.
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yea that - only aptX LL transmitters are available now. Not sure what happened to aptX Adaptive transmitters though. It's been quite a long time and still no transmitters.
@ProjectPewgf
@ProjectPewgf Жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech they're now available either kb9p from aliexpress or or bt-w4 by Creative.
@rishi2591
@rishi2591 3 жыл бұрын
can i go with oppo enco free
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
No. It's not using aptX Adaptive
@15Godrick
@15Godrick 3 жыл бұрын
review qudelix 5k!!! features aptx adaptive bluetooth 5 usb dac amp
@angelojoshuaandeo9884
@angelojoshuaandeo9884 3 жыл бұрын
How it is with vivo X50 Pro?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
As stated in the video. Pretty mediocre in terms of audio latency, really.
@angelojoshuaandeo9884
@angelojoshuaandeo9884 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech: Is it the best partner with tws neo among them all?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. ROG Phone 3 is the best partner for the lowest latency.
@waalizargar5172
@waalizargar5172 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech Please tell me which latency is better? The dual channel transmission codec that vivo tws neo uses by default and claims latency of around 88 ms or the latency of the aptx adaptive when used with the vivo tws neo?
@nguyenmlb
@nguyenmlb 3 жыл бұрын
2:48 thanks for this information 👍👍, please explain why nowaday smartphones doesn't support aptx ll itself, there must be a reason.
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
It's quite weird that it doesn't support USB-C output anymore. It used to work last year.
@matteventu
@matteventu 3 жыл бұрын
aptX Low Latency requires (but hasn't required since the beginning) a special hardware antenna design. Because of this, you may find phones that have it (there's a Vertu phone that supports it), but then nothing. No other phone supported it, to my knowledge, because Qualcomm discovered it didn't work properly without an especially designed antenna hardware. You can use it with headphones that support it, paired with external transmitters that support it. Worth noting, that technically aptX Adaptive is worse in terms of quality compared to aptX HD and (slightly) worse in terms of latency compared to aptX Low Latency. Still, it's the future because - unlike other aptX codecs - aptX Adaptive is scalable (can dynamically adjust the bit rate depending on environmental radio frequency noise). (Sony's own LDAC is scalable too, btw, but has awful latency)
@strangerst1576
@strangerst1576 3 жыл бұрын
Aptx adaptive or Aptx low latency?
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
aptX LL is a part of aptX Adaptive
@matteventu
@matteventu 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech it's not, it's an entirely different codec. Not backwards compatible.
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
@@matteventu My dude, I had an interview with Qualcomm discussing about this.
@matteventu
@matteventu 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech well they talk bs apparently
@matteventu
@matteventu 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech just to make it clear: one of the purposes of aptX Adaptive is to emulate aptX LL feature of virtually zero latency. That *doesn't mean* it's integrated within it, especially since they're not intercompatible (if you pair an aptX LL and aptX Adaptive device together, you won't benefit of the latency improvements).
@valiksimon
@valiksimon 3 жыл бұрын
No aptx with mi 8 😔
@rolins3279
@rolins3279 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Mi 8 and I have the APTX, surely it happened with an update 🤔.
@user-zy9og9lv6q
@user-zy9og9lv6q 3 жыл бұрын
In xiaomi Mi9,aptx latency is better than aptx adaptive latency. This is very sad.
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Most phones perform differently as the Bluetooth modem is integrated into the chipset.
@anuarbin
@anuarbin 3 жыл бұрын
Fruit brand still win.
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
Never tried fruit brand latency before 🤔 As far as my research goes, AAC codec only works well with fruit brand phone.
@anuarbin
@anuarbin 3 жыл бұрын
@@NasiLemakTech Yeah, I thought aptx adaptive can perform better. Maybe as you say, aptx adaptive still new. Guess I will wait a bit for it to mature. Tried using fruit brand, but I am too deep in android ecosystem.
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 3 жыл бұрын
We did have a call with Qualcomm right before publishing this video actually. We managed to get more insights on what/how aptX works and how aptX Adaptive will be the future. Perhaps we'll do a video talking about that too.
@ohsoleohmio
@ohsoleohmio 3 жыл бұрын
who cares about latency when aptxHD and aptxadaptive provide audiophile high end bitrate 48khz more than double standard 16bit sound which is still very rare in earbuds even now .... this could have been the best earbuds ever instead shit speaker hardware means you still get less than 16 bit audio quality .... here is the issue ... even reviewers like this dont really understand what good sound is like from tidal or flac source with good earphones so when they are presented with the tech they talk about latency not sound quality and it’s possible exponentially improved wireless headphone with aptxHD or adaptive.... so they dont bother producing quality earbuds cause nobody knows what quality sound even is
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