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Bobby I'd like to quote you. "With 3 inches you can get it done" Lmao love the videos

When I switched to 3.5" Blackcloud BB's, my kill rate went way up. The extra shot in the pattern really helps. But, the caveat is; that particular load patterns well in my gun, a Bennili Nova pump, but it may not in yours. Always test the load to your particular gun setup.

Pattern Test 3 inch vs 3 1/2 shells!!

7:55 Fred's face

100% agree on the 3" for ducks and 3.5 for geese. I haven't tried any Black Cloud, but I will next year!

I use 3 inch shells for geese because that's about all I can handle for the amount i shoot

Are 3.5 shells worth it? Yeah when you have a sponsor......

I like running two 3” an my final shot being 3.5”

Hey Bobby! Love you films man. I’ve been patterning shotguns for 15 years now and I have found that although you may get a few more pellets in a 3.5” shell, the pressure difference equates to patterns with close to identical pellet counts on paper. Since you can get speeds that are incredibly similar and the velocity advantage is basically lost by 40 yards, I find that shooting 3” is similar or sometimes better since 3” shells usually pattern better. Don’t get me wrong I have multiple 3.5” guns but I haven’t shot a 3.5” in years. Btw, if we are comparing a 1-1/4oz BB to 1-3/8oz BB, it’s only 8 or 9 pellets. Roughly 88 to 97. Keep doing what you’re doing! Good luck

Love it when Frederick smiles for the camera...:)

I’ve known a Freddy but it wasn’t a dog , believe it or not it was a cat called Freddy , used to be of someone I cared for and he passed away about a year ago and Freddy reminds me very much of him , carry on doing the hard good work .

Fred is one of the most calm Labs that I've seen in awhile. Good looking hound you have there!

HOW DID I JUST SEE THIS VIDEO??? I loved making the dog collar for you, and of course always enjoy the videos. I’ve learned all I know from your chanel !! Tell you sweet family I said hello!!

A pellet of the same given size out of a 3” shell or a 3.5” shell doing the same velocity is no different. The only advantage is more pellets. I have used both. This last season I went back to 3” shells as I just didn’t kill ducks or geese anymore dead with 3.5”. In fact, I made some of my more impressive shots this season with 3”. The recoil is easily twice the amount as well. I suppose you have to decide if you think it’s worth it especially the cost. But as I always say, you do you.

Just bought a Rock Island Armory 12 gauge VR40 Mag-Fed pump shotgun, and I love love love it 😎🇺🇸

Most of the 3.5" BB loads I have patterned have had an average of 100 - 109 pellets. Odd ball loads like Blind Side and Hevi-Metal (old version) have a few more. Winchester Drylok 1.5 oz = 106 Estate 1.375 oz = 100 Black Cloud 1.5 oz = 104 Federal Speed Shok 1.5 oz = 109 Hevi-Metal 1.5 oz = 136 Blind Side 1.625 oz = 117

Hi Bobby. You got my letter and read it in this video. Thanks man I was screaming like a baby. Bobby’s reading my letter.

I love watching your videos the best is watching Fred when he was sitting right next to you smiling he loves you man appreciate all the videos keep up the good work and Fred your stud

Good to here your booking up. Lots of us up here are getting cancellations. Not looking good up here. As to the 3.5 thing. We have a saying. Aim high or sleep in the street.

Hey Bobby I used 3.5 inch long beard xr Turkey shotshells this past spring and I shot four tom turkeys at 68 yards. These shells are absolutely killer when paired with Carlson's long beard xr .650 constriction Turkey choke. I will never go back to three inch turkey shotshells after getting four turkeys over 65 yards away with these shells. Congrats on the new house

OMG! Freddo is a doll! Makes me want another one so bad. We lost our Mr. Spencer (Golden Retriever) back in April. Again keep up the great work! Love your channel!

Awesome video like always fred looks really tired he's a nice dog stay safe you and your family and Fred

If we’re only shooting ducks, we use 3” in 2s or 4s. If we’re only shooting geese, we use 3.5” in either BBs or 2s. If we’re shooting a mix of ducks and geese in our overlapping seasons, we shoot 3.5” in 2s.

The 3.5 is easily overlooked due to the violence at both ends. Given a second look I've noticed that they are better.

Gas operated gun. Ported over bored Barrel bored with extended forcing cone, Pachmayr decelerator or limbsaver pad , Mercury Recoil Reducer, proper fit, will eliminate that muzzle jump. Super X2 Winchester or 935 Mossberg would be a good candidate to start with. All of the lightweight guns are going to have tremendous muzzle jump causing lots of Miss shots at long range.

Yet another great video. I usually shoot a #2, 3inch for everything. You might have convinced me to try a 3.5 inch. I'm curious if you have ever hunted common snipe or if you would do a hunt on them? It would be cool to see.

3 1/2 inch 2s are the move. Absolutely hammers ducks and geese. Good dense pattern and ability to shoot far.

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Agreed. I'm not that great a shot, although I try to practice on clays as much as I can. I have made enough shots with 3.5's on geese and now ducks (when struggling to get birds in close) to know they'll put'm in the bag. I had a horrible season this year shooting this new Benelli that only shot 3" shells (sold that thing, gun fit/point of impact issue....sent it back to Benelli, they said ~"unable to duplicate POI issue"). I have another Benelli just like it that shoots unbelievable/fits awesome......wierd. I digress. Last 2 weeks of the season, I was like, "hell w/ this. I'm done with this gun." Went back to my sledgeamatic Maxus. Said myself, "Self we're not messing around now." - (started using cheap 3.5 " Win 1-1/4 #2's (1625fps)) last 2 weeks of duck season and just started hammering the ducks, stone-cold dead. Rough season, but ended with some consolation. Take care fellas, good luck next year.

Good Evening Bobby . you talked a lot of sense about the 3 inch and the 3.5 . I totally agree 3 inch for the Duck and 3.5 for them Big Honkers , I have shot them both with my son's gun as I am old school with only 2 3/4 chambers but will upgrade to 3.5 with a new gun shortly . Loved Fred's new collar! Look forward to the last snow goose hunt . Keep yourself and your family safe and well in these very trying times, as you said in the video. Malc and Ann (England) UK xxx

Doesn’t matter if your using 2-3/4 or a 5 inch shell. If your aim sucks it won’t matter.

I’m happy to see you all booked, congrats

3.5" blackcloud BB devastating on honkers 🤘

The ammo manufacturers want you to believe they do but they don’t. Bigger payload equals lower velocity, much lower in some instances, and far less energy per pellet. Yes there are more pellets per shot than a 2 3/4 “ but how many of those extra pellets actually find their way to the kill zone. Not many more if any more at all. Less velocity, less energy, maybe the same number of pellets on target, far more recoil and a much higher price. Go ahead and keep making ammo manufacturers richer if you want but I’ll stick with what works just fine

2 3/4” bismuth #4 crushes honkers, and isn’t much more expensive than 3 1/2 blackcloud . Can run it safely through extra tight choke, and I’m more accurate with less recoil. Occasionally run 3in #3 bismuth when hunting an edge

You and Fred are an awesome team bud, when I get my puppy I will be watching your Fred training videos to help me

Nine just has a 3 inch chamber, but last season i was shooting 2 3/4 regular steel shot. That just seemed to tickle the birds. I definitely want to try Black Cloud. I might just use my old stuff to practice on clay pidgeons and get better for next fall. Fred is a chill Yellow Lab. Mine would be tearing into everything.

Personally I shoot 3" because they tend to be less expensive and they have less recoil. However I always carry a box of 3 1/2" #2 black cloud for when the birds just won't comment and longer shots become mandatory.

3.5" vs 3" bb is only about a 17 pellet difference I believe

You should go King Eider hunting in Alaska in one of the upcoming seasons

There you go Fred!!! You good boy...

My uncle shoots nothing but 3 1/2 in shells that are Kent number 1 and 1 9/16 oz but I personally love the 3 in number 2 and 1 1/4 oz by federal

Labs are simply all around the best dogs

Hey some people say you don't need a pow pow but then they call some one with one when there in trouble, SOOOO 3" is good but hey the some times you need to call in the 3 1/2". You, your family (especially your wife with her job) and Fred all stay safe and we'll. Hope to meet ya soon Keep on keeping on

u should do a video for ur go to decoy spread in different situations like duck hunting on water fields and geese

3.5 inch shells are not my style. I prefer 2.75 inch. Get the birds in close when you can or shoot high density pellets. But I don’t like big recoil. Great job, keep it up and stay safe Bobby!

That Is an awesome collar I'm jealous! Such creativity into it and design!

Have you thought about doing homing pigeons? I think that would be a really fun loft to do! You could free fly them during the day.

Make a video of some bowfishing for carp up here in Washington with me. Come try it out

This is so cool for a woman who has so much appreciation for the video you do it shows that she loves dogs a lot I bet she is surrounded by loving and caring dogs extraordinary young woman 😊😊😊😋😋😋💚💚💚😇😇😇🙏🙏🙏

Have your barrel worked on, tighten your choke and there's no difference between the 3 and 3 1/2 in. Barrel porting will reduce muzzle jump and kick.

Would like to see a video on off season routines for Fred if possible. Keep it up Bobby!

I use fed blue-box. Have never missed a bird I could blame on the shells. I shoot an im choke and switched to 2 3/4 so they were lighter when I did walk in hunts. I don't get alot of geese but again have never missed a bird because of a shell.

I shoot black cloud 3.5 inch but I use 3 bbb and I shoot Kent 3.5 inch 3 bbb

I knew you'd come to the light eventually

I've been shooting 3" for ducks and 3.5" for geese for 2 years now and love the setup. However, I use a patternmaster code black goose choke and it hates black cloud ammo. But it absolutely hammers with hevi shot hevi metal 3" no.2 and 3.5" BB

We pattern all the shells we shoot. We mostly shoot big shot. We want to body kill and not just break wings. If you are shooting 40 yds or less yds the shot size is not so critical. Beyond that you need energy. BBB or larger, energy is what kills. BBBs stack almost perfectly in the bore diameter of the 12. In the 10 Ts and TTs give great patterns, 50 to 55 in a 30 in. circle at 50 yds. After all our patterning and field experience, if I had to use a 12, I would use all BBBs. Less chasing with a 50yd+ gun and a bit longer if you can shoot. My hunting buddy is one of those freaks of nature who can hit anything at any range. Shot size and pattern and energy of the shot are the limiting factor. With big shot, you only need one or two to smoke em.

What’s your opinion on the sx4 bobby and the gas operation guns

Would a tungsten steel mix work better on the 40yd plus shots.

I shoot 3” till about dec 1st then switch to 3.5 till the end. Basically earlier I shoot a lot of little ducks and such. Then dec on lots of mallards and specks and honkers. Just an idea. To try. It seems to work for me

Great channel man! Love Fred.

Good video Bob , I get it you need to sale 3 1/2 inch for Federal as well either or both shell’s will get it done! Congrats Bob👍

Patter density. Extra bbs is good with me. Still gotta experienced shooter. Been on 3.5 since. It cost. But I like em door nail dead.

Federal blue box speed shok or black cloud.whats your go to shell. I love black cloud it's the only shell that I put in my sbe3

Anybody else notice the smiling dog at 8:10

Great video like always 😎👍 maybe do a pigeon trapping video lol

Looks like the pigeon traps are not on the southern facing roof in winter probably needs to be for warmth.

My question is aside from a marketing standpoint why are there 3.5 inchers when the 3s still have space taken up by wads (wads, not cups)? I know the wads do important work but would they shoot worse if more cushion was gone? Am I mistaken about how much space there is? I guess premium shells have those extra thick shot cups so there's a lot of factors including chamber pressure, but still... are they better in proportion to the extra money? Maybe they are, I'm just curious. The guys I've talked to usually say they'd rather spend the money on standard length tungsten than longer steel.

3.5” 12 gauge loads stuff 10 gauge loads through a 12 gauge bore, this increases recoil and the length of the shot string, nothing more.

You know what would be a cool video idea trying to shoot geese or ducks with a cylinder or improved cylinder choke

I'm all about that tungsten now! Expensive but closest thing to lead I've shot !

I just bought a Remington V3 Waterfowl Pro... no 3.5 for me!

U need to put a dog bed down next to your chair for fred he looked like he was going to fall asleep lol

Bad shoulder, 3" is enough! Lol Great video

Can u do more magnet fishing

Hey man I get I started to used Boss shotshells #2 and #4 they are way better then BB steel for sure. I get they are pricy but I know when I hit a bird it’s going down

It would be awesome if you set up a couple target boards at 40 yards and displayed the difference between 3" and 3½" shells. Also I am curious your take on thre higher end loads like bismuth. Is there and added benefit?

My m3500 loves that 3.5" federal speed-shok BB and 2 shot with a full choke. Had much better success with the 3.5" shell especially at distance. Great video brother

Nice one thanks Bob

I have a male lab he is 3 he looks just like Fred his name is Arch maybe will get to see you guys in a couple years on a hunt

Most 3" shells can only handle a 1-1/4 oz payload. So that would be 91 pellets of #BB... A 3.5" Black Cloud with a 1-1/2 oz payload of #BB has 110 pellets. Not a crazy amount of difference. Pellet count gets much higher to where you were saying around #1 and #2... #1 has 153 pellets and #2 186 pellets in a 3.5" 1-1/2 oz load. Realistically, a 3" shell with 1-1/4 of #2 will do the job fantastically as it has 155 pellets in the pattern. I think what it comes down to is velocity, which is why I hand load 3.5" shells. Bobby, if you want to see what a 3.5" shell can do, load it with the same payload as a 3" but with higher velocities... That's where ammo manufacturers get the 3.5" wrong IMO (I'm talking 1600-1700 FPS)

They do make a 10 gauge have you ever considered one of those?

I subbed because of Fred

Fred cracks me up !

You need to move the traps and then put them back after while

Yeah 3 1/2 shell are the best for far shoots, but this past season the duck were at like 10 yards It was like pulverized meat 🤣. I had to go to 3 inch 👍

Hi, it would be awesome if you did a goldeneye hunt anytime

I had such a hard time killing honkers with 3 inches this year, had to finish almost every bird with a knife... not a good time

Awesome video

Why don’t you have a 10 gauge

You are the best!! Let's get Bobby to 200k subs

Do you call paddle fish spoonbills? If that's what you are talking the first and only one I caught was 48 pounds and banded.

Why do I shoot 3.5? Because they don’t make 4 inch!!

What oz size is good for 3 inch duck load and 3 1/2 goose loads

Can you make a 20 gauge duck hunting video please??

Hey bobby have you ever used Bismuth ammo ? I want to try waterfowl hunting but I have an older shotgun not made to handle steel shot . Can you do a test video on bismuth shot.

what rifle do you use and barrel length?

Can you talk about shot size selection for ducks in different situations. I’ve duck hunted a lot and all I use is 2 shot, but everyone tells me to use different shot or that it’s over kill. What are your thoughts?

Bobby what do u do with your pigeons