Are Haitians Latino?

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For the longest time, the label "Latin" has shone the spotlight on Spanish speakers of the western hemisphere. But if Spanish is not the only language derived from Latin, then how could Hispanics be the only Latinos? This, and more

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@ContrarianExpatriate 11 ай бұрын

The term Hispanic did not include Brazilians and French speaking peoples of the region. Latinos DOES include them however because a Latino include any Romance language culture to include speakers of Haitian Creole which is French based.

@ShakeraShakera 11 ай бұрын

I’m Jamaican n in school i learned that Haiti combined with DR was called Hispaniola

@erenjaeger1738 11 ай бұрын

I consider spain aka Spaniards the real hispanics

@djstackademikz 8 ай бұрын

When Columbus got there he named the island Hispaniola (little Spain). The capital being Santo Domingo (Saint Dominick) whom the city was honored too. When the French arrived they fought the Spanish until they agreed for land on the West and named the capital Saint Domingue (which is also Saint Dominick in French) so that’s why you’ll also hear them say Saint Domingue for Haiti & Santo Domingo for DR. But Before Columbus got there the island was divided into 4 kingdoms. Haitians will tell you the original Taíno name of the entire island is Ayiti meaning high mountains in Taíno language. Dominicans will tell you the entire name of the island was Quisqeya or Bohio and the only western side of the island was named Ayiti because of the mountainous terrain on the west side. Regardless, in 1804 when the African slaves defeated the European armies they renamed the entire island Ayiti in remembrance of the Taíno people who were there over a million deep and by 1500 only 32,000 remained and by 1801 a census reported zero remaining Tainos on the island (but we all know many escaped and created maroon towns in the mountains along with escaped slaves). Then in 1822 the citizens of Santo Domingo went To war with the haitian army in efforts to secede as a separate state and in 1844 they won & became an independent nation known as the Dominican Republic. And there you have it haiti and dr.

@vanessachino 11 ай бұрын

I’m a Haitian woman we are Latin American but but Latin Americans don’t accept us. So we just say we’re Haitian.

@Mateus-ir3vv 11 ай бұрын

your Latin pass 🎫🇻🇦

@picachicaasmr260 10 ай бұрын

They don’t accept us because we too black.. lol but they run to Brazil and claim they are Latinos! Wonder if they claiming those City of good type negros in those favelas though😅

@GUITARTIME2024 6 ай бұрын

The carribean is not automatically Latino.

@youngyankee13 5 ай бұрын

You guys are part of La Francophonie. Just as La Guadalupe and other Antilles Islands.

@Ccreyescr 4 ай бұрын

@@youngyankee13most Haitians can't even speak French.

@lanegritabonita112 11 ай бұрын

You are so very smart keep up the good work and information !

@astroprotector Ай бұрын

no he is not Lol. he is peddling nonsense. When the term Latino came into popular use in the 19th century, it was not associated with former enslaved black nations. They did not consider slaves human enough to be included in the classification. This dude is cappin and projecting self-hate.

@Ryanaireee 11 ай бұрын

According to Americans we’re Latino but Haitians will just refer to themselves as Haitian

@tonybablony2041 11 ай бұрын

Yea that’s how it is, it’s purely semantics, everyone in the comments arguing either side are missing, realistically speaking your opinion is probably the most correct

@Ryanaireee 11 ай бұрын

@@tonybablony2041 Thank you

@tonybablony2041 11 ай бұрын

@@Ryanaireee the thing is I hold your same opinion, because I’ve seen this debate before and my conclusion was always the same; Haitians are latino but Haitians don’t want to be called anything but Haitian Point is I agree with you completely 👍🏽😂

@Ryanaireee 11 ай бұрын

@@tonybablony2041 Exactly + the Latino label is mainly only used in the USA

@michael922 11 ай бұрын

So then why can we not label our selves Black + Haitian why do we have to be Latino if we are not Latino

@JAE77518 2 ай бұрын

Preachin bro keep up the great content 🤙🏾

@tonybablony2041 11 ай бұрын

Haitians are latino in the most liberal sense, the thing is “latino” means from Latin America not just a “latin derived language” BUT, that’s part of it, of course, lately it seems like some people are now extending that label to Haitians where in the past it seemed like that was only afforded to Mexico all the way down to Argentina and as well as the Caribbean latino countries, because it seems like it makes sense, especially if we considered Dominican Republic, Cuba, and Puerto Rico as latino, so why not considered Haitians latino, right? But the thing is many Latinos don’t think Haitians are latino because we’re just never thinking about it, so if you want to call yourself Latino, you can, sure, but if you explain it to a non-Haitian latino they’ll think you’re crazy, because many folks are still very conservative; and I want to add that this is a very American debate or conversation, natural born latinos don’t care about this, they’ll just tell you “I’m Mexican,” “I’m Guatamalan,” etc they don’t dwell on identity politics as much as American latinos do But more power to you, I’m glad to hear this dialogue, it’s nice to know you’re educated where many are not, so big ups to Haiti… the original Latin American country lowkey, if you know you know

@55CINCO55 11 ай бұрын

Original Latin American country? Explain...

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

@@55CINCO55 haiti was the first black/caribbean/Latino country to gain independence!! We really the blueprint ❤️

@55CINCO55 11 ай бұрын

@@blcssin Is that why you want to be latino so badly? Lol. What does independence have to do with anything? There were plenty of civilizations on the continent before the concept of a "country" even began to become a thing.

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

@@55CINCO55bro u asked a question and I answered it for u… and i jus said earlier idrc im jus speaking facts. But you wanna look down so bad, it’s whatever u can drown in your ignorance

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

@@55CINCO55 and the way you went so far back to something irrelevant like everyone doesn’t know about colonization… how u think our ppl got there in the first place?? Like duh.. and why are u acting as if gaining independence wasn’t important like whats wrong wit u?? We legit inspired latinos to fight for their independence along with bolivar. Why u think the Ecuador, Columbia, Venezuela flags are so similar to haiti’s.

@milesmorales1789 11 ай бұрын

Salute brother 🇭🇹✊🏽😁

@ShaniTheBurningTree 11 ай бұрын

I call myself creole, and I’m Puerto Rican. I have Louisiana creole, and of course the Spanish…indigenous…so I feel it’s truly more precise to say that, especially since I wasn’t born in PR. You are smart, brother. Keep it up.

@icecreambeats101 2 ай бұрын

There are black folks in Puerto Rico too

@55CINCO55 11 ай бұрын

Why can't people love and accept what they are? I doubt Haitians (that are actually from the island) even begin to associate with the "latino" label lol.

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

Yes u have a point, the majority of haitians are not going around claiming being latino, Let alone even knowing that they are in fact latino.

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

Every haitian loves themselves and our zoe culture, why u trying to insult us by saying ts…. We are just historically and ethnically latino. Youre being blinded by your ignorance and probably prejudice against blacks being associated with your demographic

@55CINCO55 11 ай бұрын

@@blcssin Historically and ethnically latino? How? lmao. Haitians are latino by textbook definition but that's where it ends. They are completely different than the vast majority of latinos (culturally, linguistically, and physically). I'm fine with Black Puerto Ricans and Dominicans calling themselves latinos because at the very least they are similar to the majority, culturally and linguistically. It's like calling Puerto Ricans "American" because they are a U.S territory.

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

@@55CINCO55 right wen i say historically im speaking on the textbook. The origins of latin, how it colonized its way to what became our lands.

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

@@55CINCO55 nobody asked you if you were fine with anything, it is not up to you at all to define someones ancestry and ethnicity. Nevertheless ur acting like its a golden ticket to be called latino and Idrc enough to have a whole debate on a simple fact peace out

@Erick2009909 11 ай бұрын

Dude your Haitian ancestry came from west Africa. The tribes from haiti from African tribes are yoruba mandinka Igbo fulani Kongo and bantu. These are the real ethnicity from africa these tribes where warriors not slavery

@ruthetiger 5 ай бұрын

Please say that again. I refuse for my people to be labeled with the identity and the language of the colonizers.

@Erick2009909 4 ай бұрын

First of all Haiti was Native American country. The Taino was there territory until the Spanish and French conquered Hispaniola. They should have not causes chaos. Also do your research Haitians are descent of African tribes okay don’t be ignorant. That creole language was mix between the French and African languages like Wolof Yoruba Igbo or other African ethnic tribes. These tribes should fought back against the French if not this would happen. They would have their own country and language.

@glorialynnshreve6911 2 ай бұрын

This is the first time I have ever heard of this. I always thought the you were African. And they were the first Nation to fight against slavery and won. I am so confused.😅

@Philly-mx7pn 11 ай бұрын

I have always known Haiti to be a Latin Country, along some other French speaking Islands, regardless of what Fair Skin Latin countries defines what it means to be Latino - Hispanic we aren't but Lations we are... Just like America, I had mention to someone that I have always been in American, even if I was born in Haiti...But I was shut down by an U.S born individuals.

@TriclopstheInfinite 11 ай бұрын

Creole is a mixture of french, Taino, and African languages.

@Michael-qs1yd 11 ай бұрын

Taino words are mixed in the language too

@a.dot.mackaveli3469 11 ай бұрын

Taino isn’t the word Taino is Arawakan for “we are good” which the Europeans misinterpreted as the Arwak people calling them selves Taino but yes Creole is a mix of all those languages including Spanish Latinos are a mix of difference Breeds including Portuguese Italians and Hispanics

@JayJay-de5jv 4 ай бұрын

Thank you someone knows I asked chat gpt says swahili is in the creole language and all Africans know were the closet thing to Africa in the Americas we were brought here unlike the African Americans who been here just like the natives

@TriclopstheInfinite 4 ай бұрын

@@JayJay-de5jv African Americans are descendants of Africans like the Haitians, they are not indigenous to America

@alexskatit4188 2 ай бұрын

No, it is not.

@julianruiz1642 11 ай бұрын

I don’t know why labels are so complicated. Latinos must be a word that other people have used to categorize us and now we use it. Labels are kind of inaccurate sometimes and can be pretty dumb. I think we all know where we come from and other people want to label us whatever they want so that they can define us.

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

Well said

@mondesirrosterson628 10 ай бұрын

❤love bro

@guinelcloman6824 11 ай бұрын

❤ , agree 💯 I’m American and panameña and I agree that my ancestors are Afroamericano bc at end of the end we all mix . And I hate when ppl pretend that they are only one raíces when is not like that and more the Hispanic area 🤦‍♀️

@noahjarvis8759 11 ай бұрын

Aye my g, we should make some music together feel like you gotta good chill rap voice

@kingworldadventures 11 ай бұрын

Lemme hop on the feature if it happens

@kingworldadventures 11 ай бұрын

😂

@letemknowzo 11 ай бұрын

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@m7amm33 10 ай бұрын

Haitian are Latino I can hear when people speak Spanish, Portuguese, French and even Arabic. My dad speak Spanish. 😅

@tonybablony2041 8 ай бұрын

No, not Arabic, wtf 😂

@blinkjetimmersion 11 ай бұрын

That would mean the French West Indies who mainly speak Antillean Creole would be included as Latino. Interesting topic.

@gabriellautaro5031 6 ай бұрын

If you ask Latinos they don’t consider people from non-Spanish speaking nations, Latino. Not based on what has a Latin roots of other languages. I have yet to meet anyone who considers French or Italian speakers, Latino. 🙄

@dreadheadGiles 6 ай бұрын

The ancestors didn't spoke such a language as English French Spanish. We are not Latinos

@Philly-mx7pn 11 ай бұрын

I have always known Haiti was a Latin Country

@WhoKnowsZombie 11 ай бұрын

I’m the 1000th view

@chrissyd7642 11 ай бұрын

So handsome 💜

@AmazenBrown 3 ай бұрын

My dad is 🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹 I’m a Latina

@icecreambeats101 2 ай бұрын

So is my grandma. Sak pase. We are Latinas.

@kcapo89 11 ай бұрын

You missed out central america

@tonybablony2041 11 ай бұрын

They always forget about us😓🇸🇻✊🏽

@itssssj 11 ай бұрын

🇬🇹 👋🏼

@vickninosk 4 ай бұрын

lol 😂 I know sucks

@vickninosk 4 ай бұрын

You forgot Centro America lol 😂

@MangoTeaJay 11 ай бұрын

🇭🇹🤝🏾🙏🏾

@SasouASMR 11 ай бұрын

I’m Haitian !

@michael922 11 ай бұрын

we are really islanders and if anything im pretty sure 95% of haitians are afro haitian so that would really mean were just descended from africans we cannot identify with anything other then words black and haitian but im sure there are other haitians that arent black anyway

@Chill_Tanuki 11 ай бұрын

I mean what about afro Dominicans, Cubans, Colombian, Brazilians are they not latino? I'd consider them to be

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

Being black is just your race/physical appearance/genetics. Being latino is almost a whole other thing that doesn’t quite depend on your race at all. There are so many hispanics/Latinos that are black literally, as well as white. Haitians are latino, ethically we fit the category. Nobody is forcing anyone to claim it but its historically accurate.

@Chill_Tanuki 11 ай бұрын

@@blcssin exactly

@michael922 11 ай бұрын

@@blcssin how are we latino

@michael922 11 ай бұрын

We aren’t in Latin america

@icecreambeats101 2 ай бұрын

4:15 we are speak French sir. Haiti was colonized by the French. I’m part Haitian myself and I grew up there too and on the news French is spoken.

@juliostevens9480 2 ай бұрын

In practice Haitians are semi Latino but not officially. Haiti is a unique situation in the Americas. The whole Latino label really started being included in the US Census for the sake of convenience really.

@ivannino9834 9 ай бұрын

The haitians in Haití consider themselves as Latino Americans?

@RANDOMNEdiTER 5 ай бұрын

It's French 🥖

@alexskatit4188 2 ай бұрын

No, they don't.

@haaxeu6501 11 ай бұрын

The real question is : Are Quebecois latinos ?

@flutebabyg 11 ай бұрын

Think about it… where is Quebec

@kreyolLA84 8 ай бұрын

Not anymore since it's no longer French territory and Canada is mostly English speaking. Places like these have native Francophones and Creolephones that are not Latino. (Louisiana, Mississippi, Quebec, St. Lucia, Dominica, Trinidad, St. Vincent & Grenadines, Granada)

@tonybablony2041 8 ай бұрын

@youngyankee13 5 ай бұрын

Canadians are latinos. Groenland is latino.

@JayJay-de5jv 4 ай бұрын

All European countries speak derivatives of Latin, ie french English Spanish Portuguese Russian Serbian Italian etc

@christo-gj1qk 4 ай бұрын

I mean if Haitians should be considered Latinos then people of Quebec in a way can be considered latino since they speak French and have descendants from France.

@floridamanjay 11 ай бұрын

🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹

@LpARTURO 2 ай бұрын

Being consider latino is more than just the language, if haiti is consider latino cus they speak creole wich not even a latin language but a derivation then canadians are latins to wich clearly we agree they aren't

@icecreambeats101 2 ай бұрын

Hispanic means Spanish speaking. Latino means someone from a country that speaks French, Portuguese, and Spanish which includes Brazil, Haiti and the French speaking islands. The Latin languages are French, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish and Romanian. So yes Haitians are Latinos just like Brazilians.

@elTimmy2115 11 ай бұрын

I do see what you mean but their are lots of cultural differences and other things that make them different from Latinos

@flutebabyg 11 ай бұрын

What are the cultural differences 🧐

@flutebabyg 11 ай бұрын

There are a lot of crossovers in music, cuisine, spirituality, etc., The only difference is that the native language isn’t Spanish, although many Haitians speak Spanish, and the people are black.

@elrevah 5 ай бұрын

Tell us what are all these differences be like. I'm waitiing, lol.

@elTimmy2115 5 ай бұрын

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@@elrevahTheir language and their history is different from Dominican Republic or any Latin island but looking back at this comment they are also similar so I’m in two minds 🤷‍♂️

@elrevah 5 ай бұрын

@@elTimmy2115 The language is different but In Brazil the language is also different, and I guess if the Brazilian population would be more Black/African like it is in Haiti, Spanish-speaking "Latinos" would be the same picky to see them as 'Latinos', right? And I don't believe that with the history, or are Mexico's and Argentina's history the same? Anyway, I guess the Haitians in Haiti, exactly like the Brazilians in Brazil, don't really care about this word "Latino" that has been created in a special context, the one of the racist and (at the time) segregated North-American society. A system that needs to classify human beings (means: all non-white/WASP people) into essentialist, racist boxes. This is at the end a North-American superficial "issue" from a totally sick societal system.

@BrolyKing801 9 ай бұрын

Yes as a full blood haitan and hatians are latinos but we say we haitian 😂😂😂😊😊😊

@nashakeem9839 3 ай бұрын

Being Haitian is the closest thing to correct. Unfortunately, most people want to identify with their conquerors or masters and that is their right. I must admit my confusion, nonetheless, with all the people who only identify with their masters only due to their ignorance to research or their insecurities with being themselves 😢

@letemknowzo 3 ай бұрын

How am I identifying with colonizers? Did I say I'm calling myself French? No. The social construct of Latinidad isn't about identifying with a colonizer. It's about identifying with a culture, and there are many similarities between the culture of Haiti and various other Latin American countries.

@juniorcabrera8756 11 ай бұрын

🇭🇹🇩🇴

@youngyankee13 5 ай бұрын

Haiti is part of La Francophobie. I think people mix latino term with other things. So Jamaicans are latinos too? No.

@MSNDRSTOOD2x 11 ай бұрын

Nah Zoe we’re Haitians 😂

@MarieMericer 8 ай бұрын

Don’t care about the definition, where the country is located, what language is spoken there, we are not Latino

@WastedBananas 11 ай бұрын

Would that mean French Canadians are also Latinos?

@julianruiz1642 11 ай бұрын

Maybe

@tonybablony2041 11 ай бұрын

No; Latinos = Latin American, Canadians are VERY far from Latin America my brother, don’t know if you knew this! 🤣

@isaiah7640 11 ай бұрын

Latino is latin speaking American countries so you could say Haitians are Latin

@ruthetiger 5 ай бұрын

No! And emphatic no!

@user-xv1mc1gk4q 11 ай бұрын

most definetly not latino

@jovane9402 11 ай бұрын

We are we speak French

@55CINCO55 11 ай бұрын

@@jovane9402 Being latino goes beyond speaking a latin based language, just embrace and accept you're Black & Haitian. It's just cringe to try and be something you're not.

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

So if u say most definitely then Dominicans arent latino either ?

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

Ur goofy its latin America… the Caribbean, speaks a latin based language. Latino.

@blcssin 11 ай бұрын

@@55CINCO55 haitians are black and haitian duh. Latino has nothing to do with just speaking spanish or skin tone. i guess hispanics jus claimed it more. But based off what youre saying; all BLACK hispanics arent latino? That goes for black/afro Mexicans, South Americans, domis, boricuas ricans allat