Are HOKA Speedgoat 5 Overhype? - I ran 500 miles to Find Out

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Ultra Marathon Trail Running with Simon

Ай бұрын

The Hoka Speedgoat 5 are some of the most iconic and popular trail and ultra running shoes. But is the hype justified or are they overhyped? In this trail running shoe review, I tested the HOKA Speedgoat 5 over 500 miles on varied terrain to get this answer!
More specifically, I used the HOKA speedgoat 5 for 3 different ultra marathon. I ran Zion Ultra Marathon 100 miles, Mt Fuji 100 Miles, and Cocodona 250 miles. I used two pairs, although most mileage were on the teal ones. As you can tell, this means I tested the hoka speedgoat in varied trail - from sandy desert, to rocky slabs, and muddy / rocky / rooty /wet trails.
In this review, I go through the reasons why the Hoka speedgoat 5 is a great trail running shoe, but also, some of its limitations. I hope it's helpful!
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@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Both Nora and I really like our Speedgoat 5 - doesn't mean I wear them all the time, and they are certainly not perfect. But despite having high expectations, I was still very happy (except for the blisters...)

@wallacemayer4911 Ай бұрын

Aloha ! Simon , great content 🙏🏼What shoe would you use for Javalina ? I thought Speed goats would be perfect but I’ve never ran it before. Mahalo !

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

@@wallacemayer4911 They can be fine for Javelina. My friends Mark and Leanne (they were in my movie - the ladybug and the golden ticket), were both wearing speedgoat 5 and I think were happy with the choice. For me, I feel they are a bit too hot. You also don't really need the grip - javelina is not technical. There are some rocks so it'd be nice to have something a little sturdy on toes (I think mark actually lost his big toe nails because of hitting rocks). I've used a bunch of different shoe myself, and sometimes road shoes. Last year I used the same ones I had at badwater, which are Joe Nimble Pilot 2. They are not the most breathable, but otherwise, it felt like a good choice. Sturdy but also good cushionning. I might just pick my asics next time - haven't decided yet.

@wallacemayer4911 Ай бұрын

Yeah I was going to use Asics nimbus 26 with a little thicker socks. Losing a big toe nail sounds bad, I have speed goat 5s on the rotation for the jav if needed. Thanks Simon for the Nimble Pilot 2 tip. Keep up the great content, you come across very honest and down to earth/ and a little sarcastic/funny. I enjoy the videos leading up to my 1st 100. Mahalo !

@canelami1285 Ай бұрын

I really appreciate that you post gear reviews after testing them thoroughly. So much good info!

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Thanks - and I enjoy testing them...especially those shoe. I hope I can somehow convince Hoka to let me test the Speedgoat 6!

@ArcaneSpells Ай бұрын

Very useful information! Another banger of a video

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Thanks! Not sure I'll do that many gear review, and I think I still need to sharpen things a bit, but was interesting to share!

@SeeChadRun 28 күн бұрын

Great review and feedback! I'm looking forward to giving the Speedgoat 6 a try/review myself.

@runningwithsimon 28 күн бұрын

I need me some SG6 !!!

@PlanBudgetDisney Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the helpful review. I purchased a pair on discount from Poshmark after asking your opinion. I like mine very much too!

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Great :)

@IOSALive Ай бұрын

Ultra Marathon Trail Running with Simon, great content keep up the good content

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Thanks :)

@johnborton4522 Ай бұрын

Love that you don't waste time with the specs. Very available.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Thanks for saying. Yeah exactly, I don't want to waste your time with something if you cared about, you'd probably head to their website!

@runninrob7922 Ай бұрын

Still looking for a solid performing trail/ultra shoe. Thanks for your review - 450 miles - you definitely have experience with them!! Thank you.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

It's such a personnel thing that I feel one has to try a lot to get the right one! And even then, at least for me, I think there's too much variety of trails that I want a spectrum (at the polar opposite from this one, I was happy with my Joe Nimble's Trail Addict - which are very sturdy but also protecting your feet well)

@Gator35 Ай бұрын

Fantastic and "real" review, Simon! I just put 100 miles of training and a 50k into the red version, and I agree with all of your comments. I find the shoe to be very comfortable all around, if maybe a little bit stretchy and flexible - that worked for the easy terrain I have been on, but do agree tougher terrain and rocks will chew these things up quickly. I struggled with achilles and calf issues previously, but had no such issues when wearing these shoes - I did not connect the upper heel design that you pointed out, but you may be on to something. Great work and keep new content coming!

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Thanks! I'm not sure if it's the upper heel design, or the cushioning, or both. What I know is both Nora and I have much less pain. Which is a huge win!

@grandeamericanos4759 Ай бұрын

Simon, thank you for being an inspiration to me! Of course your data and presentation are wonderful, but I think it has more to do with your character and appreciation for your wife and your fellow human beings! Thought of you today because I was definitely more of a pickle rather than chocolate ice cream!! Have diligently been doing zone two runs and the benefits are real. Thank you so much and please keep sharing. ❤

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Thanks! Haha let’s stick to chocolate ice cream if possible!

@Eredhwen Ай бұрын

This video came at a perfect time as I was pondering wether or not going for the speedgoats :)

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

They might also have discount on remaining stock of speedgoat 5, with the 6 just launching days ago. I'm going to try the 6 - hopefully they are as good or even better! But I might also stock up on SG5 just in case.

@Eredhwen Ай бұрын

@@runningwithsimon That's a good shout! I will be having a look. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on them. I am very new to running, having started this year, but slowly building up the mileage. I am looking at D33 for my first ultra next year :) The dream goal would be in some years from now do the Transgrancanaria back home

@trailsandbeers Ай бұрын

I have wide feet and even though the wide fit SG5 are still too narrow in the toe box, they stretch and are the only shoe that i have found that works for 100 milers and longer. As long as I tape my little toe I get no blisters, they are comfortable, stable and grip well in everything except deep wet mud. I did a 200 miler in the alps last year and my feet were the same at the finish as at the start, this year I am doing a 400 miler so I will have a second pair in my drop bag. Fwiw I don't use gaiters and hardly ever get anything in the shoe. Now the 6 is released I'm planning to look for discounted 5's and buy more of them.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

400 miles in the alps? Nice!

@linlaymoutou3872 2 күн бұрын

Love my speedgoat 5 too. Better than my mafate.

@runningwithsimon 2 күн бұрын

I’ll be trying the mafate myself soon. What is it that you prefer on the SG vs them?

@RIdeWithCore1 2 күн бұрын

Forget the shoes. You’re a beast of endurance. No shoe should be able to keep up with that much movement 😂

@runningwithsimon 2 күн бұрын

haha fair enough. I was disappointed my speedgoat couldn't keep up for even 1 month, but I guess it's normal...

@denisemitrano4186 Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Thanks for supporting the channel! Much appreciated!

@thisisplana Ай бұрын

Picked up a pair as my second trail running shoes recently after taking up trail running and suffering bad ankle sprains in both road shoes and Peregrines. Spot on regarding the width, I have narrowish feet and they fit me perfectly. So someone wouldn't need to have very wide feet to benefit from the widths. The only issues I've had after 150 or so miles have been a minor blister on the arch (possibly due to the fabric strip binding the sole) and on the side of a big toe. The latter may be due to the thin toe box you mention. Both were minor and probably part of the hardening process for my feet as I upped the mileage.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Heard to tell what caused them. Big toe could be the toe box. Arch, could also be teh socks - smartwool sucks can help. Or just really making sure the feet is dry

@JesusWasHeree Ай бұрын

I recently commented about trying my first 100 - just wanted to say i didn't have the day i wanted but proud to say i got to the end. Had about 17k feet of climbing, 103 miles but it did take 34 hours 😬 Done in the speedgoat!

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Well congrats! Maybe that's not the time you were hoping for, but sounds like you were able to push through adversity, and (hopefully) learn a thing or two! So congrats :)

@michelleharnett1351 Ай бұрын

I totally agree with your assessment that they are a trail/road shoe - which is largely how I use them. However, I hate that soles wear so fast. For technical, off road stuff I prefer the Hoka Mafate - very tough in rocky technical terrain, and better grip in the mud, in my opinion. Edited to add - I have wide feet and wear the "narrow" fit but I do size up half a size - no more lost toenails. Downside, I've just sized myself out of the women's range, lol.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

I should try the Mafate, you're right. Are they also fairly narrow? I'd get the wide one but seems that's not an option.

@jean-philippeblais7233 Ай бұрын

Salut Simon, tu devrais faire l’essai du Norda 001, confortable, durable et léger. Te reste juste à en faire l’essai lors d’un prochain voyage à la maison. Un soulier fait pour durer (pas tuable comme on dit😊) Probablement ma plus belle découverte en frais de soulier. Continue ton beau travail

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Je ne connais pas - c'est une companie quebecoise?

@Kelly_Ben Ай бұрын

I just used my Speedgoats for a 20 minute treadmill run, so basically the same testing as you, and I agree! 😂😂 Just kidding, great review! I do love them for ultras, and often with gators. (Dirty Girl Gators rock, for guys AND girls!) I do use the “wide”, and I also almost lost a toenail a few weeks ago kicking a root in a race. 😅 I got mine, brand new, for $65 as a return at REÍ.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

$65...!!! Wow...! Also, even joking, it's such a blasphemy to use Hoka SG5 on a treadmill haha! Don't break my heart like this.

@Kelly_Ben Ай бұрын

@@runningwithsimon😂😂 Please forgive me, I know not what I do! 😂 They're just so comfy...

@thadbiser Ай бұрын

You might be pleased with the Speedgoat 6 then, since it appears to be a little lighter with a little more room in the toebox and a more resilient midsole. Also the elf-ear heel doesn’t seem to be as large as on the 5. The upper is supposed to be less stretchy, so maybe a better lockdown.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Yes brand new release - would love for Hoka to send me a couple of pair to test them over the summer. In the meantime, I might stock up on SG5 before they run out - I do love the elf ear (is that the name really, that's cool!)

@pexcii Ай бұрын

Very cool review! I think they are very cool, however they screwed up my toes a bit (my toe joints were scratching each others, so I got pain and struggled with bad toes for a week or two after using them for 90min straight..Solved now tho with the Altra Mont Blanc! You should give them a go if ya haven't already! Very wide toe box!

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Yeah, you saw my toes too... I hope they fix that with the SG6. For me just not being as narrow would probably solve everything. Might give the Mont Blanc a shot - how's the back of the feet? I know for Nora the speedgoat is a game changer - it messes up her toes, but that's true with any shoe for her. For me, the speedgoat were super helpful for my heel, but I'm not as sensitive as her on that, so I could try the Mont Blanc. I already like their lone peak - although mostly for hiking or

@pexcii Ай бұрын

@@runningwithsimon Yeah, they looked nasty xD Hopefully yeah! They do make their shoes very narrow, and that is really annoying. The mont blanc is pretty nice, the back will ur achilles in place, might be risky with blisters for ya. Also u gotta glue the shoe sole onto the floor of the shoe. It will slip very far and around your toes if u do not, esp in steep hills with wet shoes.

@cdhikes2906 Ай бұрын

Tried speedgoats when I was just hiking mountains. I loved how comfortable they were on even/straight incline ground, but whenever my foot was off camber they struck my ankles. Maybe I'll try the 6's when they go on sale, cause I really loved the cushioning.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

I don't really use them for hiking myself. I know it sounds like it should be similar, but for me it's a different category. I really like my Altra Lone Peak when hiking (but not when running too far - midsole/cushion just isn't enough for me).

@iljarukin5887 16 күн бұрын

Interesting insights. You mention that you run in the speedgoats only on raceday. What are your usual training shoes ?

@runningwithsimon 16 күн бұрын

Various - but to be fair, I’m also mostly training on road and treadmill so I don’t want to waste my good shoes. I use ASICS - various models. They are cheapy but good fit.

@ucamper Ай бұрын

Wow! I have never managed to wear the Speedgoat down like that. My last pair look almost like new after 660km (410 miles). I guess the surface that you run on matter a lot.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

I think the surface was a huge factor here - both zion and cocodona being more abrasive (not sure if that's the term, but basically, hard surface). Maybe also racing wear them down faster per miles because you go slower => smaller stride length => more steps per miles.

@KevinHowie Ай бұрын

I am going to black canyon 100k February. Was wondering if you thought speed goat would be ok or is that race to rocky for them.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

I think it's fine. Black canyon is not so bad. I used altra lone peak last time, and they are also not the sturdiest (actually I think even more malleable and less toe protection). It's not the most technical course but you do have treacherous rocks so you have to stay vigilant. Also, you'll have some river crossing so you'll likely get your feet wet (making it harder to not get blisters)

@Op3rate Ай бұрын

I don’t run (maybe a mile here and there) and I hike 5-7 miles per week, but I’m interested in ultra running for no explainable reason. Where would I even start? I think the “impossibility” might be why I’m intrigued. Also I have the speedgoat 5s lol.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

I myself started from mostly hiking. And not regular hiking - more sporadic (I'd go on a trip - hike a bunch, then not much for a while). I think first for me it was slowly but surely I was increasing mileage on my day hike. Not with the endgoal of distance or anything, but simply because I wanted to see more. Maybe a 9 miles hike seemed like a lot, but next trip there's this 11 miles that looks cool - ok I can do it. What looked like a crazy day - I remember an 18 miles in particular - would eventually not even give me a pause. And occasionally, because of time constraint (say for example I know forecast is afternoon thunderstorm and I want to be off the pass) or just opportunity (a non-technical not-steep dirt road downhill) - I'd add some jogging. Next thing you know - jogging is more regular, and that opens up possibility in terms of hike. Now a 30-35 miles day is possible - not fully running of course, especially that there's always a lot of climb, but it unlocked what would be multi-day backpacking trip which became a tough day hike. And on the rare occasion I could take a full week off from work, that'd become a trail fest. I don't have the numbers, but I would think I'd often cover 150-200 miles in 7-8 days. Anyhow - that's about when I started more officially trail and ultrarunning. And I guess the point is that it took a lot of time and just slowly ramping up. You don't necessarily notice the increase but it's there. I know a lot of people came in more from a running background, but not so much for me

@Op3rate Ай бұрын

@@runningwithsimon I love that, it’s interesting as I feel on a super similar early stage path to what you described. Also in socal. Anyways, ran 4.5 miles today, basically a very slow jog, basically walking speed. Kept trying to go slower like you’ve said many times and finish fresh as my goal at the end. That’s the farthest I’ve ever ran or jogged. And it wasn’t hard following your advice, finished fresh and definitely could have done more. Mind blowing to me but here we are. Thank you for your videos and helping to make my crazy ideas seem a little more achievable!

@davidszachno2782 Ай бұрын

They really messed my feet up - even in wide fitting they are so narrow. My fault for not trusting my instincts. I also found that they are cut very low under the ankle so was always getting grit etc in them

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

They run narrow for sure - I hope they'll fix that for SG6

@dazoruns Ай бұрын

I tried the wide option - far too narrow for me unfortunately.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

Are you saying the wide option was too narrow too? Or that the 'normal' were too narrow but wide was ok? But yeah, they run narrow for sure - that's the main annoyance with these shoes

@dazoruns Ай бұрын

@@runningwithsimon I have shrek feet so yeah, even the wide option is too narrow for me 😀

@davidszachno2782 Ай бұрын

Yeah I found them super narrow even in the wide fitting and it really messed my feet up

@dazoruns Ай бұрын

@@davidszachno2782 had to take them off after 10 minutes - my feet went numb almost immediately. but at least no blisters :)

@hawaiifranke7637 Ай бұрын

"loud fart" winner ... really? How does that work?

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

You mean from Cocodona?

@hawaiifranke7637 Ай бұрын

@@runningwithsimon yes ... and also "sexy pants" winner ...

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

@@hawaiifranke7637 Have you watched the movie?

@hawaiifranke7637 Ай бұрын

@@runningwithsimon the hoka speedgoat 5 yes, the cocodona no but will do now

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

@@hawaiifranke7637 Oh I see. Well then it's just (bad) jokes related to what actually happens during the race

@russ4972 Ай бұрын

Literally just sent mine back under warranty as they had stretched out that much i couldn’t get lockdown on my foot.

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

That's unfortunate. How many miles on them did you have before that? They say the SG6 will be better for this, but yeah, that's disappointing. I didn't have issue with that myself

@emmarunyeard6832 Ай бұрын

Oooo I like the sound of these, I wear brooks cascadia and ghosts for road but after years of being a brooks person.. My last two pairs have felt 'less' in terms of quality so looking to change..

@runningwithsimon Ай бұрын

@@emmarunyeard6832 It's interesting, right? I've also had models that I used to like, and then they release a new version or something change in the manufacturing chain or something, but I can tell it's different and I hate it. I hate when companies take shortcut on quality control for something that is supposed to be a good product.