i don't want any fancy stuff. but making small engines with turbos and CVTs is making things fail sooner.

I really hate stop&start and plastic parts on new engines

I've been an auto mechanic since 1964. I learned how to diagnose problems. Yes it took longer in some cases but I didn't ave to spend a lot of money on electronic equipment that I had to teach my mechanics to use. Today its much easier because all you have to do is plug in your diagnostic tool and let it tell you what is broken. the problem with that is now-a-days, there are no more mechanics or technitions. All there are is a group of parts changers. Nearly no modern day auto repair shop determines "why" a part failed. and 8 out of 10 times that same vehicle will come back with the same bad part and the repair man will say the new part must have been defective. I'm proud to say I still work on 1950's, '60, 70's & 80' vehicles and I'm damn good at it. Just my professional opinion. Keep up the good work.

Top aggravating part about new cars is You guys! If I can’t do some of the maintenance myself I have to go to you were 80% of the time I’m dealing with a rip-off artist!

Older cars don't have all the bells and whistles that will eventually need attention! I have a 1972 Nova with just the basics, and I can do all the work myself.

Average Joe non mechanic opinion here, I have found that when most people talk about "reliability" it means when car can just keep on going while grossly disregarding any all maintenance. Like a 1990s to mid 2000s honda. Those cars would blow smoke and and backfire down the road but dang it the old girl is gonna start up every morning. A modern car, In an attempt to preserve itself will In essence "cease operation" and force you to perform maintenance. Or will fail rather quickly if not serviced. I think most cars if the manufacturers maintenance schedule was religiously followed it would alleviate a lot of these issues. But now we're talking big bucks, which most don't have.

This subject is a double edge sword. I grew up in the late 60s early 70s. The advent of the later models of fuel injection and computer controlled ignition made fuel mileage , drivability and consistency of hot and cold starts a no brainer. Like anything new or something we do not understand we always compare the way it used to be to the new. But it is scary that my 2022 CRV has upwards of 30 computer modules. But to the point of reliability. I spent 32 years as an insurance adjuster and appraiser. It was very common to see vehicles with in excess of a quarter of a million miles on them. That was not a common automobile life in the good old days. Love your down to earth commentary. Keep the videos coming

I appreciate you guys' candor. I've got a 97 Del Sol, and a 2000 4Runner, and the plan is to NEVER buy another car. In many ways, I'm disappointed in the modern world.

#1 frustration is lack of access to service manuals. Everything is within some proprietary dealer only software. I’m just a DIYer car owner that looks to do simple repairs and maintenance

The biggest problem with new cars is the single fact that they are made by accountants and lawyers, the only engineers on that teams will never have to fix one of their creations either, they just want it to last the 3 years the warranty is good for, after that is not their problem anymore. The new criteria is just get a new product out of the door, the costumer will do the RD while using it, they will just fix it some how so it makes pass the warranty mark. I'm old enough to remember 80s Mercedes, it was a car for a life time, plenty of them still running, New ones, forget about that, just lease it. I was a car mechanic at one point, now a Mechanical engineer, the best advise I give my friends is, buy new, replace before warranty expires, with another new one. You are much better paying the bank, not your mechanic. Things, including cars and its components are made with planed obsolescence as a priority. Or why do you think most of the airbags/shocks on any new car don't last more than 3/4 years.

As a person who works on his own vehicles, I am welcoming of modern technology. More importantly though is the access of online information to make repairs. Working on cars in the past, all I had was either a Cliton manual or had to self-learn the repair. Now there is endless forums & instructional videos. This is truly a great time to live in, with a library at your fingertips.

My biggest peev on working on my own car is the fact that when I go to auto parts stores they don't actually have a part in stock and I have to have it ordered in.

The problem with newer vehicles is they are designed specifically to keep diagnostics and repair out of the hands of vehicle owners, and forced government and manufacturer obsolescence. They do this through computerization, design change, and software. Car manufacturers are interested in vehicle sales or leases and not interested in vehicle repairs. If there is a repair to be made they are forcing customers into the dealerships, who are the only ones with access to software. second, they are cycling models at 5 year intervals, making the obsolete once they pass the end of the 5 year window. .... Occasionally repair shops can specialize in specific models and years, and get survivable work out of service, Tuneup, drivetrain, Braking, HVAC, exhaust, light electrical, and suspension repairs. However they are not rebuilding engines, transmissions, nor replacing and or reprogramming computer systems, nor are they doing extensive diagnostics related to computer circuits (chasing gremlins). The Manufacturers don't release any of their software or computer components, not even for obsolete vehicles. Independent mechanics can't get their hands on that data, and those components, and of course private owners can't get them either, therefore when those components fail, the vehicle becomes obsolete. It's called planned obsolescence. So, are newer vehicles less reliable.... Yes... because they are designed to fail.... .... Today vehicle purchasers are not buying a vehicle, they are only purchasing a vehicle proper, but not the proprietary computer(s) and or software necessary for the vehicle to operate. This is somehow supposed to be (alright), but it's not. Manufacturers should be forced to lower the price of vehicles, by excluding those bits the purchaser (aka lessee) does not specifically own, and calling the purchase actually what it is, a proprietary lease.

my frustration working on my car is the fact that it is a 34 year old jeep comanche so it has 34 year old jeep issues like electrical demons haha, but i just did a transmission swap on it and honestly I am glad it was that old, it made the swap much easier to approach with just hand tools and youtube mechanic knowledge

Great clip and so true ... very informative and enjoyable thanks guys...

I’ve got 3 vehicles that I have the ability to do most maintenance on. Have a 1996 Impala SS with 185,000, a 2001 Honda Accord with 94,000 and a 2004 Jeep Wrangler LJ with 65,000 miles. I leave the maintenance I can’t handle to a trusted repair shop I’m lucky enough to have found. I’ll take older less complicated vehicles that I can work on making sure what’s needed to be done is done correctly.

I don`t know what the fuss is, I quit purchasing American manufactured vehicles in the nineties and went Toyota! I did my own oil changes, brakes on a Corona, 90s, a 79 truck with a 20R, both I had sold with over 250K that still ran well. Then got a 2004 Highlander, did 4000 mile oil changes, tranny, and gear boxes every 60K or so, traded in with 198K for 2015 RAV4 XLE, 155K later, using similar maintenance schedule, still runs and rides like the day I got it. The real kicker is that I bought them all second-hand! NEVER had a failure or breakdown on any of them!! Back in the old day`s if your car got 100K, that was pretty good. Now if you buy a modern American car and it lasts 100K your lucky! I think there is something wrong with this picture!!

Great video guys. This is my first time viewing your channel. I will come back for more useful information from two regular guys..

Very good topic! Thank you

I definitely agree, most of today's issues about reliability (and price) just comes from the insane expactations from the customers and the governments. Modern cars are way more comfortable, way safer, way easier to drive and way quieter than they used to be, while also having better fuel economy, less emission and more power. I think it's actually incredible that cars are so reliable considering how complex they became. And let's face it, nobody wants to drive a basic car that takes you from point A to point B nowadays ...

Some fantastic information 👍 Thank you.

love it, thank you for the honest non biased conversation

I don't need a cockpit full of gizmos, but I'm sure car companies are doing detailed market research on customer desires. Car shopping for me today, all I want is a gen 3 4Runner.

From min 7 - 10 Brian makes a really great case for 1990s vintage vehicles. We have a fleet of 97 & 98 Grand Cherokees. They have reasonable comfort features, airbags, ABS, keyless remote, reliable engines & 4WD systems. Not great fuel economy but far fewer trinkets to keep functioning. Have had the new push-button disposable junk being built these days and have passed them off in favor of the final two years for the ZJs.

Great video! Very informative. Never thought about all the problems that have arisen as cars have become high-tech. I was of the same perspective that older is almost better on anything. Good Birds Eye overview.

Smaller engines, turbos, and CVTs is recipe to kill longevity and force the consumer to buy more cars more often.

reliability peaked in the late 90's and early 2000's with engines like the 3800 series II and series III. just enough technology but not excessive

Nice video Tommy and bro !

Why I drive a 1995 Suburban. L05 350 motor, 4L60E transmission. It ain't complicated.

You don't need a scan tool to check bmw oil. Hit the button in the car and it will measure the oil the same way the scan tool does and it will tell you the level.

Warranty was a lot better on Japanese vehicles in the 90s . My 1991 honda accord was 5 years bumper to bumper. Why don't manufacturers go back to a 5 year warranty that is bumper to bumper. Stand behind your product. I still think that the Japanese cars are still better quality than american made vehicles

I would say new cars have lot more computer modules running everything that can fail and will not work without it. Thank you for the video.

Diesels are dead due to emissions standards and diesel quality in the US Edit: and diesel price on top of everything vs gassers

06:17 YU Guys older than me but I know 80s cars DID have CEL! Maybe you meant 70s? Some cars had them in late 70s even, but not commonly. Basically everything had CEL by 83. having much experience with newer mazdas? am hearing a lot of good things from last 10 yrs or so. Also, I have the shop manual for my 66 mustang and its like an introduction to auto mechanics rather than the point-by-point instruction guides of the 90s and later. the 66 manual shows full diagrams explaining the 4 bbl carb and the multiple (amazing) fuel circuits it uses. my 90s shop manuals will give 8-12 steps designed to, but without even mentioning, "remove all residual air from line". Sometimes following the instructions does not even work, if you don't know what those steps are meant to accomplish! And btw, I had some issue with the restored seats in that 66 not being right.. and turns out FORD used "hog rings" in the upholstery process. They had snapped. Tractor Supply part, not a NAPA part. Back when you fixed it on the farm. Oh, I tweaked the primary jets down one step in that carb. Had to check 3 dozen 2bbl carbs for those jets lol. It was sized 5 over for extra VROOOM (but only sucked extra gas). Guys under 30 now don't know what to do without a computer and a parts cannon, unless they focus on antiques.

It's a plain fact that the cost of required maintenance for newer vehicles has increased substantially. AWD being common means that there are more fluids to service. CVT transmissions require much more frequent service intervals to function correctly. Many new vehicles have AGM batteries which are more than double the cost of a traditional car battery. Overall, the increased complexity also means that major components like engine and transmission are much more likely to have a catastrophic failure when service intervals aren't kept up. So the increased cost of services means that the "typical" consumer will not properly maintain the vehicle due to either cost or ignorance. Then the increased vulnerability of the car to damage when service is neglected results in a catastrophic failure much sooner. And then the cost of an engine or transmission replacement is extremely high because of the longer labor times and parts that are more expensive due to complexity. Do you need to be able to climb into your engine bay for your vehicle to be reliable? No. But the "latest and greatest" vehicles after a 100,000 miles can really hurt the average Joe due to that increased cost of maintenance down the road. A 10 year old used car that's cheaper to maintain and has a good service history will often treat the owner way better than a 3 or 5 year old car, especially if it's a luxury brand.

In my opinion, the late 90's cars are the best of both worlds, they have OBDII to easily diagnose and were designed to be repaired by DIY'ERS.

We have some newer vehicles and I hated going to the auto repair shop to have to do anything, so I bought an Autel 906pro that has been great, I also have an HP tuners to have access to the computers. And I needed it to build my truck, i put a CR cummins in an 08 Ford because the 6.4 motors are junk but they have the newer style dash. I do work in an auto body repair shop so i have a pretty good understanding on all the computers and how they communicate. I just found your channel and really like it, so new subscriber here.

In today's economy with the highest inflation most of us don't even look at a new cars, but like myself i own 3house's have multiple other properties and my daily drivers are an 89 s10, nizzan hard body, and a Ford ranger, my wife a Honda Odyssey.

yall should do a video on Ford vs chevy in reliability

I drive 2001 VW Golf MK4 and just decided to replace timing belt second time after I bought it in 2017. Yesterday it hit 300 000 km mark, 90 000 of them are mine. Its average is 6.0 liters of Diesel per 100 km (39 mpg) and it only burns 0.7l of oil per 10 000 km. This car is fair to fix, I only pay for parts and work with generic tools. I like that headlights are covered with glass, so I don't have to polish them. I like that I can replace every bulb by myself (and I actually replaced most of them). No need to feed corporate parasites with activation servers and proprietary tools. Reliability-wise, my VW Golf is more reliable than 1984 Mazda 626, 1990 Audi 80, 1993 Mazda 626, 1996 Skoda Felicia I had. But it is also more reliable than 2007 Hyundai i30 of my relatives they bought new. So, I think that after late 2000s car quality started to decline. I consider enormous complexity and massive integration of electronics as driven by corporate greed. They deliberately create multiple points of failure that are expensive to fix. As IT guy I know that complex electronics never age well, and old pixelated burnt-out display from 2010 with outdated software will always look worse than purely analog dashboard from 1985.

Short answer for the really observant ones: YES! If that was not the case, we would see tons of cars disabled on the road! Now, QUALITY wise? NOT all! Just look at how quality is number last at Ford!

90’s vehicles were good and bad. We could use a test light or volt meter and we can verify parts. We can’t test a module today. Without a good module, We can’t always know we’re right or wrong

I use to do all of my own work. I find what makes it too difficult to work on cars now, tools. I purchased what I need to work on the wife’s car. Can’t be used on my car. I buy a newer car, then all of the tools I used on my old car can’t be used on my newer car. The electronics from model to model, year to year require up dates that are too expensive for the individual.

In the last line of the video when you mentioned Unreliable electronics you said it all

Whether you prefer modern cars or older cars is opinion based. I agree with y'all that reliability comes down to tried and tested parts. I think that's why Toyotas still keep a better resell value over others. I have a 2001 Pontiac Firebird with the GM 3800 V6 and line that car. It'll be my daily driver until the day I die. Parts for it are super generic, reliable, cheap and easy to find. I don't need heated items, air conditioned seats, etc.

It seems to be hit or miss. Some newer vehicles will have no issues for 150k+ miles while others are a nightmare from day 1. Older is alsp much more DIY friendly. Example: my 2017 silverado seems to be more reliable than my DD 1989 S10, however when something does break on the silverado it tends to be much more expensive. I have learned how to do all of the basic things to keep the s10 from leaving me stranded; (setting base timing, idle, etc.). While OBD1 is much more vague and prone to running weird, it doesn’t take much to get it running. I can appreciate both eras of technology but I do truly enjoy working on my older vehicle more so than modern vehicles I would say.

Yep. Independent shops is super tough. How can someone know every cars & trucks? Every car /truck can be tricky. Specialized shop or tech is the way to go. 95% of shops out there are not too reliable, They have no time to diagnose correctly, don’t have the knowledge, the right tech or tools, or the time to spend on a tough problem. Or they can’t support their families. Find a shop with some older guys, they may have the experience. Very few young techs are good if one is lucky. Beware!

Most people I talk to about new cars especially trucks hate all the extra features. Me personally I was an Auto Tech for Subaru and Hyundai so I can work on just about all the new stuff and I can say for sure older cars are more reliable and simple. That’s why you see people driving old civics and corollas from the late 80’s and early 90’s still on the road. Most vehicles you can still work on the cars especially Asian and most American vehicles excluding diesel trucks if you get a decent scan tool for $500 and personally I’d rather buy one of those than send my car to the shop for a $400 break change and $100+ dollar oil change. I also only buy manual vehicles except my truck simply because they don’t make a 1500 in a manual anymore. They also come from the factory with cheeper crappy part nowadays and being a Hyundai tech we had to replace engines straight from the factory because they had bearing clearance problems which is something Honda or Toyota don’t have. Honda did have a semi rough start to turbo engines with oil dilution but they have figured that out with the newer models.

Ford..................Panther..................Platform...........4.6L 2 valve. I have 2 of them (2 Lincoln Town Cars). I just replaced the fuel injectors on one of them myself (I am not a pro). They cost $130. All eight of them...not each.

DIY'ing is still possible these days. For more complex repair jobs though it's a lot better to have a second car to have the ability to get more parts that you end up finding that need to be replaced while you're in there. Finding technical information is the hard part for me, mostly torque specs. Although I have to be honest and say I've only done basic maintenance, brake jobs, water pumps, shocks and the usual fluid changes, brake fluid, transmission, diffs and coolant. I've never removed a cylinder head and never seen the insides of the bottom end either. But yes, owning a BMW and a Mercedes forced me to buy a computer to be able to do some of the maintenance work and that computer was about $1500 but it has paid for itself by now since I've probably used it about 10-12 times by now.

35 Year retired mechanic, bought a new car. Looked under the hood, and decided if anything went wrong I will take to the shop. Fortunately we have a good mechanic, with all the proper scanners and equipment. Also if you drive your car with care, instead beten the hell out of it, the car will last long. I had several cars never had any large breakdowns, be nice to your cars.

Being able to check fluids without an expensive scan tool affects long term reliability. Who wants to buy a used car that the previous owner couldn’t check the oil level on? Most don’t even want to spend money on getting fluid changes - they sure aren’t going to pay someone to monitor their levels ever week or two. But the time they have their next scheduled service, they could have severe damage from low levels. Maintenance should be made simple again. That’s why I still like Hondas. They are one of the few makes on which you can still check your own transmission fluid.

Screw Exxcitment. Gimme the reliability. Don’t want anything to do with small displacement turbos gas engines. Especially from Ford !!!

I have owned two newer Toyotas, (as well as a 2009 Corolla but that ain’t very new I don’t believe) a 2016 Toyota Corolla LE and now I have a 2017 Corolla SE. I got my 2016 with 20k and I drove it to 140k miles and never had one single problem. I did my oil change every 5k miles and my CVT fluid every 50k and it was perfect. I started then want the “fancy things 😂😂” and decided to buy another Corolla but a 2017 with adaptive cruise and lane departure. The SE got a nice partial leather trim black seats that I loved and look much nicer than the 2016s in my opinion. This corolla is at 125k miles and I’ve only replace my front left wheel bearing. My adaptive cruise has worked flawlessly, I have never seen my check engine light before, my CVT is buttery smooth. I think obviously Maintance is key, these are corollas also so they are not very complex. Everyone complains that they don’t have power and are boring to drive with the CVT. While my fingers will forever be crossed with the CVT, the 1.8 l has been butter smooth in all of my cars, never has burned oil and gets over 40MPG on the highway.

lol this is a tale as old as time. If we backed up 30 years and had this interview in 1994 you'd be telling us all these new electronic fuel injected engines with their overdrive transmissions are unreliable garbage.

Cars don't have to be barebones to be reliable. Remember the Yugo? The Hyundai Excel? The Chevrolet Chevette? Garbage cars that were cheap, basic, AND unreliable. Buy a car that is designed and engineered the way it should be and it shouldn't matter how many computers are under the hood or how much plastic is on it... it'll last because the components are designed to. I don't care what era your car is from, if it was engineered and designed well, it'll be reliable.

Hi All, great video. My question is have you seen a decline in the quality / increase in unreliability in cars built say during or after covid? A number of persons say cars built in this very period since Covid are just more cheaply made, even Toyota and Honda.

I work on all my own stuff, so obviously I am biased against new vehicles. But even just driving them, I cannot stand anything post recession era. It seems like just before that, we peaked in reliability. To me, the golden spot is anywhere from the 60's to the early 2000's. And based on preference you can pick from there. All I know is that I would be way harder, way more work, and way more money. To engine swap my 70's cars than it would be to anything new.

I’m on the road a lot. I prefer to drive over flying. I found out the hard way a GM dealer in Utah, will not honor the work of a GM dealer in Virginia. So far I have not had that problem with BMW. Expensive, but no service problems from state to state.

6/1/24- Thank you for your informative vids 1. It's been decided for us - We consumers do demand desire want immediate gratifications 2. Disposable vehicles - However, corporates know there's money in disposable Things 3. EPA - There's carbon emission incentives - From you I now hear Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE, 1997) Toyotas one global platform creates new replacement parts As you stated back in the day It was tried and true parts used across different platforms So, I hear you that consumers drive newer vehicles And so do corporate manufactures feed consumers desires Damn if you do damn if you want it

2015 Mazda owner. Only frustration is when I get bored with and browse for a new car and see repair & maintenance nightmares. No more large sedans only hybrid cars, SUV’s, EV’s without OBD2 ports, everything fast is turbo charged all eco friendly bullshit designed to make people happy about spending more money. Not to mention the fake autonomous driving which is a liability nightmare for owners.

Great info in this video! I feel there is a place for the gizmos and basics! Who in the hell would want to tow 15k trailers 😂

I've been in the car biz since 1972, I don't think we need most of these new features car makers push on us, they the car makers are in a race between themselves to bring new features to us whether we truly need them or not, but people are forced to buy these cars as that's what's out there when we go to buy a new car, in many cases things come as standard so we have no choice, Sadly the more we have in a car means there is more to go wrong, gone is the day when things are easy or cheap to fix, In particular I dislike the less knobs and buttons which we can operate by touch and feel, today more and more is on a tablet or screen and in order to use that we have to take our eyes off the road which seems so dangerous to me. We cant use our cell phones but we have to focus in on a screen, it makes no sense.

What is your opinion of Mazda?

Things I get frustrated with is the over engineering of a lot of stuff on cars today, like an electric E-brake. For some when those electric e-brakes wont engage if you have a dead battery. -- The other thing is the Gov. regulation for fuel mileage. Because of those many things have changed, which have decreased reliability.

I own two cars, a1977 Buick Electra and a 2017 Chevy Impala. The big difference is that I can work on the Electra. I won’t think about doing anything but simple maintenance on that Impala. And parts are cheaper for the Electra too. Tires cost double for the Impala, compared to the Buick. Both are dead on reliable. That Impala has never been in the shop for anything other than routine maintenance. The Buick has needed a few things, because gaskets and seals just don’t last a half a century!

All I need is a dome light and some glow in the dark gauges.

My 1979 f250 was on its 3rd engine at 90000 miles. That very dependable carburetor with worn out shafts washed the cylinders down sucked in dirt, made it hard to start . Wore out a $45 starter every couple years. Wore out a $35 alternator every 6 months. They just dont make em like they used to. Thank goodness.😊. Ooops forgot to mention the headlights that both quit after 30 minutes and the ignition that quit every trip longer than 25 minutes

I think I'll just keep fixing my 1993 Ford Explorer and my 2002 Ford Taurus.

I need your advice i have a 2007 car with 120 000 km in mint condition without ABS braking...should i get rid of it and get a car with ABS braking? Many are saying that its a death trap without ABS and that i should get a newer car with ABS... please advise thanks...

The challenge I had was to replace by myself the harmonic balancer on my 1995 Jaguar Xj6 (daily driver). The part is out of production, so I had to call all over the US to get used part from a salvage yard, as the OEM available on Ebay was made in India, and it was not machined properly, poor quality on the metal and not properly balanced. I had to practice for about 2 hours on a used crankshaft with a delaminated harmonic balancer from the same engine, using the right pulley tool , so I can learn how to remove it and put back on the crankshaft, without damaging the keyway and properly tight up the 30 mm crankshaft bolt. As a result, of my practice, I successfully installed the used harmonic balancer from the first try on that engine 4.0 Liter inline straight 6), using the ignition crank method. It took me 4 hours to get the job done by myself, (I was not in a hurry) but I saved over $2000 if I had to go to a professional mechanic shop. Now, the car is used for work again and I log about 1000 miles per month. I am planning to do the same procedure on my 1995 Jaguar Vanden Plas (weekend driver) as the harmonic balancer on that car is 30 years old by now., ( car made in 1994) I am waiting on a machine shop here in the US who is working on a custom harmonic balancer for me , based on the original part.

Im still driving my silverado 94 4.3 engine almost hitting 300k miles. Same motor and transmission the only thing a swap was the rear differential. Cost me 200 dollars and still driving today 😂. I dont like new computer modules tellling me how to fix my car 😊

BMWs on the ramps….. a very common sight 😂

My 92 Civic Si hatch with 450 thousand kms on it would start within 5 seconds in -42 Celsius with no block heater or nothing. Same day,none of our brand new gasoline F350s on the pipeline would start,even with being plugged in. We didn’t work that day because we couldn’t get there. That’s what 75 thousand dollars gets you.😊

I would be much happier if we didn't have all the tech in moderns cars; driver annoyance systems, all the connectivity crap. Keyless entry and proximity push button start is all crap in my opinion. LED lights crap. Digital dashes all crap. Likely to break down sooner and more often and when they do they cost a fortune to fix. Most of this crap is unnecessary.

I still rather have the 90s vehicles. Hands down. I think ill try to keep these gems. Are they more unsafe while driving? Maybe. Considering everything on the road now a days is a tank compared to your avererage 90s toyota vehicle. I drive very carefully. I treat my driving as if im on a motorcycle. I have had many close calls but since i drive defensively and use a horn im always on alert. I rather be able to fix my vehicle and have it run then be in debt for a pavement princess. With gizmos and parts all over. Keep it simple. I dont need a tv or flashing lights. I like it dark in my cab. No distractions. I focus on the road at all times. Still trucking. 95 t100 350xxx on the tranny. And 93 22re pickup with 100xxx 22re.

Car manufacturers build what sells. On the one hand many modern cars today are going over 250k. Commutes and travels are longer than they used to be, speed limits are higher and drivers are harder on cars. Watch how many fools are slamming on breaks at every single stop and going 100 mph just to pass someone already going the speed limit. On the other hand take Land Rover. That company was made famous for having tough simple vehicles that were often used in Australia and Africa for Safaris. They where very different vehicles than the luxury SUVs that they produce today.

BTW you mentioned having a 2017 4Runner. I am looking to get a 2023 or 2024 model before the 2025 model comes out in the spring. I never trust the first year of a new model upgrade, especially with the new one having a turbo engine.

I do not want a Automobile with a Infotainment System or all the Bells and Whistles. This has proven very difficult to find. I do not what a Automobile that is connected to any network or that will share my data. I want a Keyed Ignition and Keyed Lock. I do not want to be dependent on a Electronic only system. It is a matter of time before these Vehicles with electronic only locks a starters are hacked. Not having a physical barrier such as a key is a step backwards. If I could find a basic Automobile now a days with a Manual Transmission option I would be very interested. Like they say in Linux "Less is More" Also, with out all these extra bells and whistles the Vehicle would likely weigh less and one would have a better power to weight and likely get better MPG.

I’m just fine under the hood, but my back and neck just can’t take any more under the dash! Damned HVAC servos! Every car I get in that’s over 8 years old has an inop,sticky, noisy, or shuddering air vent solenoid.

I just hate electric power steering. Scariest failure I have ever had. The wheels in my 17 Mustang GT locked up mid corner when the rack broke. Lucky I had good brakes as I was pointed off the road still.

I've got a daily driven '95 legacy wagon running strong/reliable at 434k+, are new cars able to do that?

I wish I could buy cars with manual windows and door locks. All the extra do dads usually fail first.

Use a jumper and count the check engine light flashes on OBD1

Wonder if CAFE standards ruined my love affair w GM? That DOD lifter issue is a nightmare. I've disabled it and found no significant changes in mpg. Averaging 18.3 around town n 21 hwy.

The excuse of less weight using plastic that fails to soon on important parts like water pumps fuel pumps antifreeze lines etc

cars past 2015 became more complicated since wheel sensors and the like !!!

Can a law be in force from an aftermarket warranty ripping consumer on warranty that they won't approve

Less reliability = worst for the environment. More repairs and less expected life = more metal/fluids to dispose of

Modern cars are all oil burners. All of them, I've heard this from multiple professional mechanics is right out of the box it's not uncommon even for Toyota's to burn over a quart of oil between oil changes, maybe I'm misremembering and it's more but it's at least then. Then there's also the huge increase in electrical components.....wired together with wiring that has insulation that's edible to rodents. Rodents chewing up wiring isn't unheard of in classics but they're much less likely to do it or take it to the same extent because it's not good for them, on the other hand the new soy based insulation is edible and they like it. Repair costs even for basic stuff has exploded out of control, we've all seen the $5600 tail light repair video where a leaking lens disabled a truck and ended up costing $5600 to fix. So, it's just gotten out of hand.

GDI motors will grenade. You're lucky if a CVT makes 150k miles. Replace all those coil packs. Where were you when that timing chain went? A Hemi will tick. A turbo failure will throw shrapnel elsewhere. The starter under the manifold. A diesel repair is always 4K and up. A tuner to chamge brakes and the battery. Lifetime means till it dies after the warranty. No such thing as pulling a junkyard motor. Yeah. They dont go much further. But when they break. They are more expensive. Now if yoy pay more. You'd think more reliable. But you'd be wrong.

It's not even about reliability, although I am sure modern cars are less reliable, as you two just confirmed having propietary tools, software and too complicated unnecessary systems, is the real rip off and reason why modern cars especially cars after 2014 suck so hard.

How much of the new car lack of reliability is the result of “lifetime fluids”?

“Cameras mounted down low in a plastic bumper”. Now I dare you to give specifics into “such device”! You meant the RADAR/LIDAR?? Those are NOT cameras! The reverse camera? On the bumper?

We live in planned obsolescence. The older car's a real car's Today's plastic fantastic car's suck

I believe the car manufactures invented all the new car features (gizmos/gadgets ) that we really don’t need. I’m able to drive with out all the new features. I find many of the new features a joke. I like some of new cars, but the ridiculous cost when buying, and expensive upkeep, keep me away from new cars. Stay away from the new cars for at least two years, they are in shop often, with some times major repairs.

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The video gives the impression that all cars built in the 90s and before are more reliable than newer ones but you left out how in the 80s the Japanese auto manufacturers tought American auto manufacturers a hard lesson on how to build reliable cars. This forced American automakers to produce more reliable cars in order to compete with the much more reliable cars the Japanese manufacturers flooded the U.S. market with. The older US cars before the 80s forced none mechanically inclined owners to want to trade in there cars at around 50000 miles in order to avoid problems and retain a relatively low loose of car value Newer than 90s cars easily go 100000 miles plus with relatively few problems outside of the over the top new tech problems and built by in money traps

Don’t forget GOV regulations… the main culprit in making unreliable V8s

So i hate how newer cars are made of of so much plastic, there is hardly any metal anymore and with heat and Time Plastic becomes more Brittle,