It's not about the bike. It's about the rider. Some fools ride like they are looking for trouble. They often find it.

I own both a huge 1800 cc Gold Wing plus a 650 Bergman scooter. The scooter is much easier to drive and once set up, just as comfortable as the Gold Wing (20 years and 140,000 kms). Not sure it's relevant but I never get tailgated on the Gold Wing but do so frequently on the scooter. It would seem that auto drivers have different perceptions of both motorcycles and scooters. Since driving the scooter, I never leave without wearing a high visibility orange vest which hopefully allows them to see my grey in colour smaller vehicle. Not sure how relevant this information is, but I can attest to the fact that it is so based on my own personal experience. How that translates into accidents is anyone's guess

I’ve been riding bikes and scooters for over 30 years, Most of the crashes I know of are Middle Aged men on big bikes that they only ride on sunny days, I also find that maxi scooters handle much better than bikes with a pillion passenger,

I ride both motorcycles and scooters when I was 29 I was hit head on by a car and was gravely injured but because I was on a scooter that day and my legs were in front of me, I didn't lose a leg according to the police investigation they believe if I had been on an ordinary motorcycle my right leg would have been pinned under the bike and it would have sheared off so my opinion both are dangerous but it depends on the circumstance and the angle of impact on which is more dangerous at the time

Not all scooters are the same. My 150cc Honda will go 67 mph. It has a 14 inch front wheel. I have tremendous storage and can even go grocery shopping. It stops very quickly and even has abs braking. I have had many motorcycles in my life and this Honda handles very well. Yes, now I am older and I ride very conservatively and I wear very bright colors to be seen.

I think scooters are less likely to get into an accident, because scooter riders are more likely to respect cars. In my experience as a motorcyclist, safety has a lot to do with how you treat car drivers. If you ride safely, then car drivers will respect you, and keep their distance. However, if you ride like an idiot, then the car drivers will treat you like an idiot, not placing much value on your life. I'm speaking generally; of course there are always going to be the exceptions to the rule.

In NZ you have to pass a bike test with gears and clutch even to ride a scooter over 50cc.

One thing you didn't mention is protection. I've been riding motorcycles for years and got my first scooter, an Xmax 300 last month. Many years ago I was hit by a car. It hit my kinda sideways, first hit me in the front and then smashed my ankle between the bike and car. If I had a scooter I'm pretty sure my ankle would have been fine. And if you go down and slide on a regular motorcycle, you can get serious injuries while you are somewhat protected on a scooter.

Was just looking for an answer to this question and found your video very helpful, Scooter for me :)

Its not about what the research says its all down to how experience the rider is that makes it safer. Iv ridden motorcycles, scooter riders are really safe and they can go really fast and they're fun. Im in my 20's I would go for maxi scooters for commuting and offroad. It feels so good that you are able to ride both.

Dude not all scooters have small wheels. Come to Asia and be enlightened.

Scooters does have a lower CG due to the placement of the fuel tank. On a motorcycle, the fuel tank is higher up at kneel level.

I believe it’s a mix of factors from skill level to safety gear. I believe one overlooked factor is infrastructure for motorcycles/scooter. Something similar for bicycles in the Netherlands. Roads in the US are mainly designed for the cars and not really anything else. Would be cool to see some motorcycle lenses or something 😁

Like we say in Medical field- pathogen factors and patient factors in causation of disease. Similarly- Machine factor- Motorcycles are safer than scooters But Rider factor- Scooterists are safer than Motorcyclists. Thus the safest combination is a mature/non-teenage/non-thrill seeking commuting scooterist riding a sub 500cc Motorcycle.

Good video with good information thank you.

Because of the different interests and goals of the average motorcyclists and the average scooter riders, a data will obviously show that MC’s are more likely to crash. But if we get a data about which vehicle rider is more likely to live in the same crash, then I’d say motorcyclists are more likely to live regardless of their skill. The average mc rider treats safety more seriously than the average scooter rider with no gear except for their half face helmet. Most crashes happen at low speeds where both can easily reach, in the end it doesn’t matter which one you ride it’s mostly about you yourself.

Scooter preferred for a grocery shopping, bike preferred for pong distance traveling.

Quite honestly, i think it's a wash. On balance they are similar. If you are a safe rider on one, you will be on the other. I WILL say, that scooters appear to be more appealing to more "responsible" riders, but that is just my opinion. Also.. it's REALLY REALLY hard to do much stunt riding on a scooter. I couldn't do a wheelie if my life depended on it! I will stick to scooters (i have had 3. 2 were 250s one was a400.) Because they suit MY riding style. I love motorcycles too!

Most scooter riders wear proper gear too.

I would like to know the fatality percentage when comparing both in accidents.

Baie dankie mnr, you came with the stats! Watching from jhb

As long as you’re not talking about e-scooters like Lime, Lyft etc, compared to those a Yamaha R6 is safe

I tried to ride a scooter once but I couldn't go beyond it's first gear although it was a new scooter from a well known brand. The main difference I noticed is that a motorcycle, with bigger wheels and engine weight at the center, feels pretty well balanced and stable. It can be accelerated mind freely and the handle bar will remain straight, vehicle will seem to be pretty well balanced. It will give the rider confidence to even leave the handle bar for a few moments before holding it again. The rider can make a turn easily. Rider's feet are on the foot rest directly above the ground so he can immediately put his foot down if he feels the need to do so. A scooter, on the other hand, feels very unstable to a motorcyclist riding it for the first time. Firstly, it's engine weighs more on one side, like a pail of water on one side, Rider has to intentionally make a balance so that Mr. Scooter doesn't fall on it's engine-side. Secondly, it's tiny tiny front wheel is much more likely to slip upon breaking or on a turn so one has to be very careful and cautious not to press too hard on the front brake while still balancing and compensating for the heavy weight on one side Not to mention if God forbid it gets punctured and the tyre has a tube and is not a tubeless tyre. Thirdly, the rider has his feet on a floor with a small rear brake pedal usually on the right side, disconnected with ground. This adds to the feeling of being unsafe although with practice a rider may learn to wide open his legs in an emergency to touch the ground with his feet LoL! My salute to those who can ride this thing on speed and even carry passengers. The only pro for it in my opinion is the fact that it has a stepni, small storage compartment, doesn't have a drive chain and doesn't need a battery.

I just got my motorbike learner licence.dont know what to buy.sporty 150 cc or scooter 150.any help and tips welcome. Tnx

I like the ABS brakes on Piaggios, I fear the brakes on a Navi. I'm torn between getting a scooter or a minimoto.

I ask a question if scooter are safer for the rider if an accident occurs & I'm getting many variants unrelated to my original question ?

Thanks a lot for this video.

Thanks for trying. The stats from Australia are not useful unless you compare all types of motorcycles (scooters, underbones, cruisers, sportbikes, touring bikes, standard, trail bikes, adventure bikes, etc.). I would be very surprised for if trail bikes for example have higher crash rates than scooters. I have also yet to find a study that deals with the engineering weaknesses and the physics of scooter design (small wheels, flexible frames, rear balanced weight distribution, short suspension travel, poor ergonomics) and their effects compared to more typical designs in other types. As an experienced rider of 37 years with experience on all types of motorcycles, I consider scooters to be the most dangerous. It is because they are so dangerous that most scooter riders tend to be unwilling to travel at high speeds. Therefore, accident statistics do not tell us which type is safest, rather they tell us how people ride them, which is significantly influenced by rider demographics.

Yes!

Only one thing to point out yes in those comparisons motorcycles are "more dangerous" . But also you should be aware of what you compare , mostly scooter riders won't go on twisty roads and in similar fun and enjoyment type of rides. If you give 1man a loaded gun to walk with it around and compare him to person walking around with stick.... Yes one with gun will have 1000times bigger chance of accidentally killing self with it. 😅

I never see scooter riders wearing protective gear. They don't even wear gloves.

An important thing is the size of wheels, scooter often go with small wheel

6:50 you say multiple times motorcycles are faster and more dangerous because of it . But you compare 600r6 with small scooter. Fun fact There are 125cc motorcycles aswel.

It's Who is riding them.

Sure Scooter have better stability and less heavy than bike. Scooter are wider from front so your legs are protected from front and side impact, and can save your legs. Bike has longer braking distance and both hands and both legs need to work coordinated way but in scooter, it's only brake and acceleration. Scooters cannot travel faster than 80 kmph otherwise they can get unstable and drag increases, which is limits speed, while bike can easily cross 100 kmph which is unsafe. Lots of control, practice and attention is needed to safely drive bike. Scooters have become very refined now a days and electric scooters are even safer. And grip depends on wheel thickness. If you had brake bike, even the rear brake, the tyre tends to sleep, but scooters naturally have good braking stability. Yes in event of accident you can rev the throttle by mistake in scooter and make it even worse, but same thing can happen in bike. Because accidents happen within seconds and it's all human reflex that works during that time. Most importantly scooters have lower centre of gravity compared to bike making them more stable in general.

It is mostly the rider, but I have seen a lot more stupid people on motorcycles than on scooters, scooter people tend to be more com and easy going than motorcycle riders. As for speed the newer 400 cc scooters will do over 140 km, and some have pretty good pick up like the Yamaha 400 Majesty, and the 400 Burgman not like some bikes, but better pick up than the average car off the line. Do wish Yamaha would bring back the 400 Majesty, the best and most fun scooter I have ever ridden. I use to put 102 km on it going down the 400 highway to work, and take the back roads home, with would be from 120 km plus. Now looking at the Suzuki Burgman 400. Much better on the highway than the Yamaha Xmax 300.Which would be my second pick. Had the Suzuki out for a test ride on a very windy day, and it was rock solid on the road. Much more than a lot of motorbikes I have ridden.

I would think scooters are safer due to all the stupid bs I see 2 wheel drivers do is being done on crotch rockets.

If you don't like scooters and they're slow or inferior to motorcycles..just take the time to look at the American and British videos here on u tube! I don't want a 1400 cruiser anymore! I want an economic vehicle..here in sa..the petrol scam is breaking everyone's pocket AND budget! 👊😎🤝👍

Some comments on here from people who have clearly never ridden either judging by the verbal diarrhoea being spouted. Maybe they should stop listening to their mum's scare stories or 'Dave' the expert on all things two-wheeled down the pub, & instead go out & buy a scooter or bike & start enjoying the freedom & convenience it offers for themselves? Some people love getting caught up in the what COULD happen. You could have a heart attack, stroke or get the big C tomorrow. Enjoy life. Live a little. Safety on 2-wheels is all about being sensible & riding appropriately for your ability level, the bike's limits, & the road/weather conditions. The rest is in the hands of God & Lady Luck. 😎

I'm considering getting an electric motorbike over a scooter

Die man klink Suid Afrikaans en definitief Afrikaans😂💥

I thought I was gonna see some experiments backed with scientific formulas and stuff but all I hear is a someone reading boring numbers,

yet there are way more motorcycle accidents! especially with new riders! no defensive skills or anything! the average scooter doesnt have that all of sudden burst of speed like a motorcycle does and generally scooters are lot easier to get your license on! you are also less likely to be one these idiot speed demons on a scooter as well and there so much more! i ride a motorcycle but soon i wont be!

its not about the ride, because sooters in most of the world are allowed to be ridden from age 14, and over 80% of traffic accidents are caused by scooters, where people say ''motorcycles'', but well ye, you said, we dont count mopeds.

Both are safe, if a woman or a child isn't riding it. Lol. Just a joke.

The rider is to blame most of the time imo. How often I would be happily riding along when Mr Crotch Rocket would speed past me and I'd always say " wow they can see around corners and have the ability to read the minds of tractor drivers etc oh no wait they're just immature fools ". Just because you ride fast does not mean you have a totally safe unoccupied road ahead it just means your a twat imo