This one's gonna be a fun one! Let's talk about some of the movements, genres and bands that've falsely been called metal throughout the decades! (or, alternatively, bands that aren't considered metal that likely are!). At the end of the day, it's all in good fun and labels don't particularly matter all that much. But what're your opinions on this topic and what bands do you think aren't/are metal that get falsely portrayed?! Be sure to let me know down below!!!!!!! But for now, cheers, rock on, stay heavy and have yourselves a fantastic rest of your day or night, depending on when you see this!!!!!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

People confuse metal with extreme metal

“No one will say Slipknot is not metal” Somebody wasn’t in the KZfaq comment section in 2008.

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I think there's definitely a case to be made for Alice in Chains as something like alternative metal, and maybe a bit of Soundgarden's output can fit that glove in a similar way, but it's also obvious that no other "grunge" band comes close.

"It's kinda complicated and depends on the band you are talking about." Enough said really, there really isn't more to it

Gurnge is mainly a mix between metal and punk. The more metal influenced grunge bands i would be willing to call metal like alice and chains and Soundgarden

crime to leave Seether out of the post-grunge debate. but for the most part i agree lol

One subgenre I find to be a huge minefield is grindcore. Sometimes its closer to death metal, sometimes its closer to punk, sometimes its closer to non-rock genres (such as cybergrind), sometimes it's closer to just being noise music. Grindcore can be such a wild, bizarre, and chaotic genre of music. Maybe avoiding being classified as strictly anything, be it extreme metal or punk, is the intention.

I don't care whether a specific sub-genre is real metal or not, what matters the most imo is if the music is enjoyable/good

Gatekeeping is cool.

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My two cents: Nu metal is metal, just listen to it. Glam metal is metal. There's a difference between glam rock and glam metal. Glam rock is Bon Jovi, Glam metal is W.A.S.P.. Metalcore is metal. Weird hybrid metal is metal (much as I can't stand Sleep Token). Emo is not metal and hardcore is not metal, they are evolutions of punk. Grunge isn't metal, you can make your case about Kurt Cobain liking Metallica and that shit but Michael Jackson also liked Metallica so you can't really say shit. Grunge is the sound of 90's Seattle Rock, just like Sweden has their own death metal sound. That's it. Crossover thrash is definitely metal but some are way more punk than others (e.g. Suicidal Tendencies), but I'd still call that metal. Grindcore is a similar thing but I think I'd call it metal as well. I don't listen to much grindcore though, it's so far removed from my taste ha ha. Zeppelin and Purple are hard rock, so is Tull and Thin Lizzy and UFO and Aerosmith and Night Sun and what have you. They were super important in developing the heavy metal sound but heavy metal has to have, heaviness, you know? Also, Primus aren't metal. I don't know why they're in the metal section in my local record shop. That's obscene if you think that. I love the metal archives so much, it's my favourite website and a great community but the stuff they choose not to include is baffling. Grindcore and crossover thrash but not nu metal? Unscrupulous. Love the Burzum shirt btw. I just recently got a Hvis Lyset Tar Oss hoodie and have been wearing it to bits. Have a good week! Been loving your stuff.

I'd to say Rammstein is metal because they have a bit of variety of metal and rock to their style. Other then industrial metal their also called Neue Deutsche Härte, Tanz metal (Dance metal) metal that's just catchy enough to dance too. Now it's harder to judge other's like KMFDM Eisbreacher and Megaherz since they have a lot more of a EDM style and isn't as raw as Rammstein when it comes to other German industrial bands with a similar style. Author & Punisher may not be metal ( I can't really tell) but they''re freaking raw with their Godflesh influenced style.

Wow, another great video! So much to unpack here. Firstly, Jethro Tull is my favorite band of all time, and they're definitely not metal. They got sh*t in the metal press when their Crest of a Knave won the Grammy for best Hard Rock/Heavy Metal album (I believe the next year they split it into two separate awards). They're one of the most important prog/aor bands who've changed their style every few years, but they started as a rhythm and blues band. I think of Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple as two of the biggest influences on the direction of metal (Robert Plant and Ian Gillan's vocals, Ritchie Blackmore and Jon Lord's virtuosity), but I believe it's the persona, themes and sound (thanks to Iommi's detuned guitar after he lost his fingertips in an industrial accident) that make Sabbath the first "metal" band. As with glam and nu metal, like you said it depends on the bands. Finally, grunge struck me as a reaction to glam much like the punk of the Sex Pistols was a reaction to prog bands like Pink Floyd. While I never got into grunge, I felt that Alice In Chains was definitely closer to metal than say Nirvana or Pearl Jam. Finally, I'll leave you with my favorite metal/hardcore punk crossover band Znous from Tunisia. Their political message is firmly entrenched in punk, while their sound moves back and forth between the genres. If you don't them, check them out at Znousland.net (or Bandcamp).

So long as there is Rage in a Rockers' heart, Metal will never die.

Two things I gotta say: The topics are either metal or not metal. Or are you wearing the Burzum tshirt that makes you look amazingly stunning

This is a certified loss streak for me I was late again but at least I got crangrape today

Burzum make great terrifying sounding black metal I dig their music despite Varg being a Fascist pos.

Here's my opinions (Sorry if its kinda rambly, Ive had a long day lol): Glam: Rock, that's all it is, they are called "rock stars" for a reason. Sleep token: Of course they are metal. People just get mad it has rnb and hip hop parts but I personally love it Grunge/Post-Grunge: I would call them an alternative metal sort of thing sound wise but many of them come from a rock background which make them lean in that direction. Some, like nirvana almost tip the scales entirely and are almost punk in a way. It really all depends on what band we are talking about and even then the lines are blurry. Nu Metal: I gotta disagree with you on this: It generally leans more towards a metal direction in my opinion (Even if its accessable or not) but some bands adventure out into more of a rap rock thing which is different sure but I would still personally call it metal. You can still be a metal band and have some songs that aren't metal songs. Screamo, emo, post hardcore: It comes from a punk background so I would call it more punk than metal. Screamo/scramz whatever you wanna call it is literally just a combination of hardcore PUNK and post HARDCORE/emo. No metal to be seen, at least in the beginning of the genre. Some bands haven't heard a metal song in their lives they just hear chiodos or whatever and work off that, that's not metal, its its own thing. Once time went on and bands mixed it with metalcore and I would personally call some those bands metal, but the overall genre(s) themselves, far from it. DGD: I agree you on that one, they are a post hardcore band through and through Led Zeppelin and Jethro Tull definitely influenced some early metal but they are 100% rock, I don't not get people calling them metal whatsoever. Some people say Deep purple and Black Sabbath are kinda more of a proto-metal thing, l but if I listen to it, I just hear hard rock. I would still call new bring me the horizon, I see stars, architects and asking Alexandria metal, not sure why, what is the distinction there, but it just feels right to say that for some reason.

Hope I see Slipknot in this video. Being cheeky but only kinda

Was waiting for a mention of Motorhead

While I definitely agree that Grunge is not metal, I would also argue that Soundgarden is not Grunge. They are much more representative of Stoner Metal and thus are metal.

Great Sounding Grunge Music besides Nirvana is bands like Alice In Chains, SoundGarden, Melvins my top 3.

Grunge is a case by case thing, nirvana isn’t metal, Pearl Jam isn’t metal, but Alice In Chains and sound garden take a lot of influence from sludge metal

What about HIM, 69 eyes, Negative and the commertial gothic metal bands

Nice *twist* ending. Still waiting for "Opeth: Unplugged" to come out. #amimetalifimonlyaguitarstring

this also doesn’t mean that any of the non-metal bands aren’t good. rock is good too.

Surprised you didn’t bring up Ghost. Imo they are metal as fuck, but I know a lot of “purist” metal heads don’t feel that way

I think that Rainbow (specifically the Dio era) was metal. After Dio left, they became straight up rock

Glam is actually a really easy one, as there is both glam rock and glam meta. Glam rock isn't metal, glam metal obviously is. Motley Crue for example is glam metal, whereas Kiss is glam rock. Grunge itself isn't metal but rock, however bands like Alice in Chains are not pure Grunge and therefore skirt into the confines of metal. Similarly post grunge isn't metal, though I'm not really sure why you included Disturbed in there. Disturbed is a lot of things, some rock some metal, and thus very much in the metal category. Speaking of some of those things, Nu-Metal. Firstly Nu-Metal is the most misunderstood and misused sub-genre of metal. You gave examples of a bunch of bands and lumped them all into the Nu-Metal category, so I ask you this: what is the connective tissue between Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Korn, Slipknot and System of a Down? They play completely different music so I don't understand why so many people insist on lumping them together into the same style. You asked what I would call Korn, well, Korn *is* Nu-Metal, they invented the sound of the sub-genre. Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park(well, their earlier works that is) are very much metal, just not Nu-Metal but instead Rap-Metal. Slipknot has a few elements of Nu-Metal in some of their albums but aren't really a Nu-Metal band. Similarly Disturbed has these same elements of Nu-Metal, most famously in their song(and to a lesser extent album): Down with the Sickness. However Disturbed too isn't fully Nu-Metal. Heck Korn themselves transitioned away from Nu-Metal in their later albums. Still the sound of Korn's earlier albums is what defines Nu-Metal as a sub-genre rather than a scene/movement or whatever. System of a Down by the way is the quintessential Alternative-Metal band, arguably the founding fathers of the sub-genre. As far as the OGs, they're not metal per se but Proto-Metal, as in before metal or the precursors of metal. I wouldn't include Jethro Tull in that list by the way, they're very much progressive-rock. I would however add the band Queen as they are just as Proto-metal as Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple, as well as some other lesser known bands like Sir Lord Baltimore or Dust. Lastly, it's funny that you joked about Opeth but they very changed their styles a lot. First they dropped the death part of their classic progressive death metal sound in Heritage, than arguably dropped the metal aspect altogether in the following 2 albums and became much more of a progressive rock band more than anything else than in their last album they kind of tried to return into the realms of metal, though still without the death aspect.

Nu Metal is defined by the riffs, wich are influencd by Helmet, but a lot more darker and even more low tuned.

Glam is fine

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I wouldn't agree with Grunge being the "the most metal adjacent non-metal genre" tbh, it's hardcore IMO. Yeah it's originally an offshoot of punk, but a significant portion of hardcore since the mid-90's or so mostly leans into thrash or groove metal, and more recently death metal influences. A lot of modern hc sounds more like Sepultura or early Machine Head than Bad Brains or Minor Threat. Not even talking about metalcore either cos most of this stuff is considered just hardcore.

Baffled that people consider DGD metal. Only thing that I guess could be called metal are the harsh vocals.

I'm a SiM fan boy (metal + Skah)

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Emo ain't metal bro emo is closer to pop punk

For example everybody think ACDC are a metal band , but they're just rock , and more closed to punk if we think about any muisical s 'influences they have , to my thinking

But a bunch of sleep token songs are just rnb or piano stuff then for 20/30 seconds it’s I guess Metal then goes straight back to the piano stuff

If its soft and poppy … then no But classic metal is fine…

What about trap metal ?

I don't understand how you can think Sleep Token or Alt metal in general are metal only to say grunge isn't.

Alice In Chains is metal

The only metal bands that exist are the ones i listen to. Everything else is not and youre wrong if you disagree

Led Zeppelin is hard rock, not metal. Grunge is a subgenre of rock, not metal. Nu Metal, even though "metal" is in the name, is actually a subgenre of rock. I know, it's kinda misleading. Bring Me The Horizon and Sleep Token are both disgraces to metal, so they don't belong to that music genre either for solely that reason.

Someday when you reach puberty you’ll stop fussing about genre boundaries and just enjoy music

Grunge is NOT Metal-adjacent. It is directly opposite of any genre of metal. They all openly opposed and tried to belittle Metal and its fans.

I honestly think ghost is hard rock definitely not metal