Well said. I agree.

Disagree. The full twisting double tuck dismount is actually over-rated, so the double twisted has the correct rating. It can only be performed in combination with the round off or back handspring, so it would get an automatic connection bonus anyway. To be honest Simone is treated far better in terms of her skill ratings than other gymnasts. The Yurchenko double pike is a case in point: it's absurd that it's rated 0.4 *higher* than the Produnova, which remains the hardest vault in WAG. And it would be 0.6 higher than the Yurchenko triple twist, which is so difficult it's never been successfully performed. The Biles 2 on floor is the same, benefiting from the over-valuing of the Silivas. It's very entitled to be complaining about this one skill where the rating isn't as high as she'd like. If you *really* want to talk about undervalued skills, then talk about front tumbling like the Dos Santos 2, or twisting like the Maldonado.

@@Victoria-iu5sb UTTER RUBBISH! Simone is practically doing a Silivas on BEAM WITHOUT the AID OF A SPRUNG FLOOR. How in the world is that over-rated? If these skills are as easy as you wish to make them, why is it that NO OTHER WAG has ever done them in competition? It has taken 10 LONG YEARS before we have seen the BILES 1 on floor competed by someone other than Simone. The Produnova vault that you rate so highly has been competed MANY TIMES by at least 3 other gymnasts than the creator herself but not a SINGLE WAG has competed the Biles 1 on vault since it was debuted in 2018. Every extra twist, turn, spin someone makes is adding difficulty to a skill and rightly so because it IS HARDER to do so. Not because Simone seems to do some skills easily means that it is actually easy and any poor sap would understand that. Simone is not 'benefiting' from ANYTHING. FIG undervalued her double double off the beam and they have acknowledged that. Who the hell are you to say otherwise?

​@@Victoria-iu5sbAgreed (though there's no CV for beam dismounts, only SB) on FX a back triple twist, tuck full in and double front tuck are all E rated. I know vault isn't totally the same as FX but still, it makes no sense that the Yurchenko tuck full in has rated so much higher than the Yurchenko triple twist or Produnova (which should actually be the highest DV vault of the three)

​​​​@@Victoria-iu5sbjust because other skills don't have the value they deserve doesn't mean her skills are overrated. There have been many gymnasts who attempted the produnova in competition while no one other than Simone has done the YDP. Even Maroney trained the tuck version but it was never done before the piked version was submitted. Also how is the double double off beam easier just because it's done in combination? It's difficult to get enough height on the full in let alone a double double. Just because it's been competed a lot in the past doesn't make it easy. No one even competes it now other than Simone. Guess you want the fig to devalue even more skills gymnasts rarely perform just because they're "overrated" in your opinion Edit: the triple twisting yurchenko is by no means easy, but the main reason it hasn't been competed is because it isn't worth it. There have been several gymnasts that have trained it so it's very possible but not worth the risk

I agree!!!? ❤🎉❤

That would be amazing if she can put that on the floor as her opening to her floor routine!!!!

In WAG a yurchenko entry is considered easier than a Tsuk entry. In MAG it's the opposite

@@alexi8741 no, under the COP for WAG Tsuk entry vaults are considered harder and have higher difficult values, that is a fact. For example, a Yurchenko double twist is 5.0 while a Tsuk double twist is 5.2, a Yurchenko 2.5 is 5.4 while a Tsuk 2.5 is 5.6. it's all in the COP

​@@poshboI don't think he is arguing with the point value. We are talking about what is ACTUALLY more difficult and not just by what the code says.

@@poshbo yeah I mean im not denying the COP but you need a huge block for any double salto off the vault which makes yurchenko doubles harder than tsuk doubles

@@SquirtlePower809 the COP doesn't always get things correct but on Tsuk vs Yurchenko entries, it is correct. The roundoff in Yurchenko vaults helps women generate power and allows a full backwards entry onto the table. With the Tsuk entry women have to rely much more on upper body strength, which they have proportionally much less of compared to the men, and it involves a late half turn which is difficult to control (though they can do a quarter turn with the Kas technique for twisting vaults but not for double saltos). It's clearly more difficult for women to complete the same number of twists and saltos with a Tsuk entry than with a Yurchenko entry. Back in the 2004 quad and earlier, gymnasts like Zamo and Annia Hatch did both a Tsuk double twist and a Yurchenko double twist; their Yurchenko one always looked much easier and in team finals where they only did one vault they always did the Yurchenko. It's also why so few women today do Tsuk vaults and almost every woman does a Yurchenko vault, it's harder to generate height and power with the Tsuk entry. In MAG it's the opposite, the vaulting table is higher and MAG places far more emphasis on upper body strength and male gymnasts have proportionally more of it, so Tsuk entries are easier and more common while Yurchenko entries are hard and rare

I believe all of them Simone is capable of doing all she has to do is put her mine to it and it is done. I cane not wait to watch her and the other girls from the USA team.❤❤❤🥇🇺🇲

I just dont think enough height can be generated off a beam to pull it off. It's just so insane. But if she did it definitely deserves a J rating . Maybe a z 😂

@@loveanimalsmost2134 Yea lol

There should be a higher connection bonus for directly connecting >D+D skills. Like 0.4. The incentive could lead to some truly special tumbling passes.

Absolutely.

Her amanar is already a work of art so a TTY is definitely doable.

with her issues of the twisties(she said in a recent interview it still comes back sometimes) i would rather see the double pike. but i think it'd be cool to finally see someone do it

@@kccrews yeah . I don't think many sports fans understood the pressure she was under in Tokyo. She was literally expected to sweep the competition and bring home The team and ind gold Medals. I would imagine that this manifested itself into the twisties. Not to mention all of the abuse from Nasar and his case ..was also probably still weighing on her. I hope things are much better for her mentally now . If they are ..a TTy would be amazing . 🙂

If that’s the case then there should be *no* restrictions on any stunts performed.

You're confusing FIG authority with USAG 🙄

@@albarjas8360 USAG was definitely more culpable in the case of Nasser. That being said, in the past, the FIG didn’t take reports of systemic abuse seriously. Over the last few years, gymnasts from several different countries have come forward to detail their experience with this level of abuse in the sport. The FIG purportedly exists to “ensure the safety of athletes”, so at some point, one must ask what role the FIG played (or didn’t play) in keeping gymnasts safe from abuse.

What’s a Yurchenko double layout worth? Hypothetically speaking

Not even close. We thought this back in 2016. And again in 2019. And she just keeps returning stronger each time with more skills.

@@SquirtlePower809 NOT EVEN CLOSE INDEED! You, I and everybody else will see that AGAIN when she competes.

Bad take lol

Some people initially expressed the same thought when she first started posting videos of her doing the double double off the beam but she proved that she could do it easily enough. Because of her height or lack thereof and the amount of power she generates off her back hand springs, doing these kind of dismounts are not improbable for Simone. However, because FIG undervalued the double double off beam she will not be motivated to compete most of these beam dismounts unless it is to etch her name in the books once again.