I mean, if we are going to change the way we humans relate to the earth we have to be conscious of all the spheres (biosphere, hydrosphere, chryosphere, lithosphere/geosphere, atmosphere) and biogeochemical cycles (Carbon Cycle, Hydrologic aka Water Cycle, Nitrogen Cycle, etc). I think studying Earth Systems Science and Ecology are good ways for people to start learning.

Thanks for the info!

this isn't true, trees are woody plants with secondary growth. bamboo doesn't have secondary growth. similarly, palm trees also aren't technically trees, but woody herbs

@@meep7252 I had never heard the addition of secondary growth as part of the definition. I looked it up and it says that "in some situations a narrower definition may be used including secondary growth" so this is just newer or older than my books it seems. So, I'd say we're both right.

Cannabis grown by crazy hippies are trees. The rap group Mendo dope have grown literal 20 foot tall cannabis plants.

a grass tree :D!

Basically like how rotting salmon feed our forests but without the middle man? (and presumably less heavy metals)

Kelp could easily replace industrial fertilizer with almost no artificial energy input.

Kelp also naturally helps plants create more branches, as well as help prevent damp off, sometimes an issue when transplanting younger seedlings into larger containers that are too moist for that stage of their growth. Kelp is an amazing soil amendment to or nutrient, especially for anything like a food source. It's impossible to use too much (you don't get nute burn if your numbers are off, so it doesn't damage anything), and it naturally stimulates plants to create more branches, therefore more food. It's fascinating stuff IMO.

​@@d.w.stratton4078 *using livestock dejection as fertilizer* Tbh we have A LOT of environmental friendly fertilizer, and not adding a kind of production and functioning like our practice of agriculture was the ecosystem it should be seen has will probably be better

Solarpunk reminds me of ecobrutalism as an aesthetic

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please sneak me into your class room lol

definitely going on orbital habitats

Oooo I hadn't heard of Edenicity yet, I'll check it out.@@slevinchannel7589

If anything I'll try to sneak my class OUT, haha. I have been thinking of making a video about my school's greenhouse I got set up. There is so much research that sustainability in schools has tangible effects on the attitudes and environmental education of students.@@mywholedarname

U mean one day I might live in a mushroom house like a gnome or fairy in the woods 😮

Mushrooms can also be used to make leather replacements, can be used in pure foam form for insulation or in textiles, and that same foam made by Oyster mushrooms is also edible. Many species of mushrooms also have suprising medicinal uses, especially against cancer and other tumors, but also as immunity boosters, antioxidants and much more. I also read about a mushroom that has basically the same protein composition as meat and can be grown industrially, though for some reason it has not taken off yet. Not to mention all the uses of yeast fermentation. And the best part is how there is so much space for innovation, since there are just about 20 mushroom species that are properly utilised and researched (mostly Oysters, Reishi, Shiitake, Maitake, Chaga, Jelly Ear and some others), while there are thousands more with undiscovered properties and benefits. For example, those polystyrene replacements I know of are mostly made with the use of Oysters or Reishi, but their use is kind of limited since both of those mushrooms have trouble growing on sawdust of conifers, even though conifer sawdust is by far the most abundant waste material in European and north American timber industry. But there are species of Ganoderma (Reishi), for example Ganoderma carnosum, that should in theory grow really well on coniferous wood and potentialy enable a whole new industry. And yet, I literally found only one scientific article from 2022 researching that mushroom, so you can imagine just how much potential of fungi might be flying completely under our radar.

I’ve been reading Entangled Life and even as someone who was raised to appreciate fungi, I never realized just how incredible they are

@@panellmann1461 I would love to hear more about those things you're researching, where can I find out more about it?

Yes!

I think solarpunk is beyond the current political paradigm. There’s no way to have a solar punk party in the same way there’s no way to have an eco-friendly share market. Solarpunk happens from the ground up, as the grass grows. Once it is big enough, it may be noticed by the politicians (if such a class will still exist by then), but the people figuring out clay chemical reactors probably won’t care all that much

🙂IMO, you start locally and lead by example. If you're not already, watch some stuff from The Post Apocalyptic Inventor. He's a German dude who re-uses, repairs, and re-purposes various motors, gadgets, tools, and so forth. These skills would be needed in a solarpunk future, _and_ are useful in the current recession. For example, I started doing my own work on my truck, repairing my garage and house, etc. My fence especially will save me big-time, and I'm still going to convert my old truck to electric over the next few years, since it's already too inefficient for road-trips, so I can start with something small like a 50 km to 100 km battery, and expand as battery tech improves, which would also include used batteries. That would also be good as the biggest backup in a household, with a smaller one for use when you're out and about just to keep a few lights on, and keep the place from overheating or freezing. Heat pumps, insulation, and specific paints can also provide good energy benefits - for example, see Night Hawk In Light's video on his white, thermally-emissive paint experiments, to replicate the commercially available stuff. If you're a home-owner, re-organize and rebuild it for more room-mates or collaborative living, and if you're not an owner try to find a place that is. (Even my small city has _one_ co-op, collectively-owned set of town-houses.) Always keep learning and trying new things, too! 👍

The good news for that timer is that it was recently found that what basically look like display boxes filled with liquid algae can help draw 50x the carbon out of the air that a tree can, and it doesn't take 40 years to do it. There are actually ways of cultivating various algaes at home, and over the years a few places have even experimented with gardening it on vertical surfaces as both a form of art and and something like a natural air carbon filter. I think acting locally in a way that takes advantage of this could help a lot. Even if it's just the almost display cases of liquid algae "soup" being installed in areas like public transportation stops or good sized parks with lots of sunlight. They're not the only solution, obviously, but they improve things as whole lot more than most people would assume at first.

Well, the best step forward would be to start growing your own solarpunk stuff (most likely bamboo would be easiest) and after a few years you'll probably have more than you need so share it with some neighbors. could even connect with a youth group and have them weave bamboo baskets if you have enough materials harvested (or could even invite them out to harvest). point is things that don't currently exist are hard to get support for, but if it's already existing it's much easier to. The same holds true for getting bike infrastructure, while at first it's hard once you have a decent network of bike paths it can be much easier to argue for expansions.

@@nightpups5835 Be careful with bamboo. Some varieties can grow like the plague in the proper environment, and suddenly you end up with an invasive species of you aren't careful. Thankfully, there are a whole lot of varieties of bamboo for almost every environment and there are ways to keep it from spreading too far. Just be careful with planting bamboo in the ground, I guess would be my point. Container gardens or even blocked off areas in the ground are pretty common in certain places.

You right as mushrroom decompose feces at the best time but like you said its not competition but you have to add the mushrrom to the list

I like the idea of all hands on deck. We should aim to diversify our resources and not depend on one thing, probably make the whole system more resilient.

Yes, but also the right (horizontal and decentralized) social structures for it to undfold properly.

We lack the money

We have the resources, and we do have the will, but our most elite classes, whom live in and control every country on the globe, have an intrest in keeping things the way they are and making sure people and uninformed, divided and think a better world isn't possible

I've been growing mushrooms for more than a decade already, mostly as food and as a way to reuse certain wastes (coffee grounds, newspapers, even corrugated cardboard). Spent subs can really do wonders in a compost pile, too. So I'm really glad to see all the work that has gone into researching and developing more sustainable alternatives to building materials these last few years.

I was just about to comment about mushrooms and other fungi.

Fun-gi! Fun-gi! Fun-gi! Mushrooms are too cool.

Solar panels can be infinitely recycled and changed our to create a zero-waste future and can be seamlessly integrated into already-existing buildings without the need to destroy the environment any further. Nuclear is cheap and long lasting, but solar is cheaper and again, infinitely recyclable. Nuclear can help but it's not the primary source of power for a solarpunk future. We'd have to routinely launch all the nuclear waste into space every few hundred years or so, and accidents while rare can still happen. But we do need nuclear.

Steel should not have to be necessarily carbon-intensive. With green steel recycling (because rust is a far better resource than ore for refining) bamboo and hempcrete sustainable reinforced concrete could become a reality. Overlay that with a pine wood floor or linoleum, insulate it with silica wool, and window it with bioplastic or biofilm windows, and sustainable skyscrapers could become a reality. If we pair this up with limited use of roman concrete (which has recently been rediscovered) buildings could last for millennia, outlasting the population peak of this century.

I also wanted to add that it's not a requirement to have skyscrapers or hugely tall structures in all cities. Even cities like London are mostly made up of smaller buildings, and often it is considered good city planning practice.

@@BenRose60 Definetely, I am myself a huge proponent of Dutch-style city planning, with 5 level streets instead of single family homes and skyscrapers. It was just an indication of how sustainable does not have to be limited.

@@BenRose60 for sure, great point, I think that avoiding hardcore Suburbia is the first goal and bamboo and wood could easily achieve multi-family housing.

@@zep4814 would love to learn more about applied material science stuff like this. I'm glad that young environmentalist students are starting to see construction, architecture, project management, other built-environment stuff as Environmental Study material and not just ecology, biology, forestry, conservation, etc.

The Solarpunk database was hacked. The first video was hosted by DrewGPT.

Maybe we could use used concrete crumbled like how they uses slate stones for stone walls in shepard pastures in England. That sounds potentially neat, just a lil way into the video but unfortunately or fortunately we have to try compromise. With a clay slurry maybe to make the concrete walls adhere or a new kind of cement, I like micro plastics. Could use big used oil or water plastic 5l jugs for it with cotton or plastic string and Lemongrass synthetic or natural oil to attract swarms of social bees and fungi like reishi or turkey tail or oyster or winecap mushroom surrounding?

Kelp is cool and all but we know the way it is currently manufactured and shipped off to be consumed is pretty fucked. How about groundcover like nasturtiums too and chamomile, then fungis like oyster and reishi, to hazmat sad Mr beast style, clean up a landfill after all gases methane carbon dioxide ect have been extracted, one pile mostly organic waste for plants and fungi, one pile for mostly plastics that can't be used anymore like crushed milk jugs, bottle caps can be reused, let fungi and sunflowers deal with that. Then hydrolyse the plastics into petrol. The still useful pile for wood, clothes, jewelry, concrete ect landfill diving in hazmat suits. Then metal and glass recyclables like glass bottles and tincans, unshatteres beer glass bottles could be reused and I'm sure there's technology to be discovered and relearned that lets you reuse glass bottles and opened tincans.

We don't like being shoved into little boxes and labels right. I'm sorry for what you feel you have to do to be accepted.

@@baumi8125 what?

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"Resistance is fertile" is a wonderful phrase. Great comment all around

Through the Eyes of a Stranger by Will Bonsall is a really good book. It's about a moneyless society with sustainable and renewable everything!

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A healthy Sea Otter population can keep Sea Urchins in check. Endangered from the fur trade era, their numbers have rebounded and they've helped bring back northern California kelp forests. SEE - USA, California, "Monterey Bay Aquarium"

yep, too bad that's not what happened.@@benrudolph5582

I tried but I can’t help with a better portmanteau. I think I can rule one out though. I don’t think it should be called cannabilism.

@@SoftBoyMonsterTrucks Hahahahaha you're definitely right about that 😂 amazing pun wow

I love to see more poly culture gardening like the three sisters method. The world of companian planting in general just feels rife for rediscovery to me.

@@Waitwhat469 yup

​@@Waitwhat469 I was just watching a video on a permaculture orchard the other day where this guy interplanted his fruit trees with nitrogen-fixing trees (not unlike planting beans with corn), and then created an understory with berry bushes and perennial vegetables, and had fruit vines climbing up the non-fruiting trees. You can add additional "forest layers" to an orchard like that, too, like an occasional nut tree towering far above the fruit tree canopy, or growing mushrooms in mulch or mushroom logs on the ground, or even underground in a symbiotic relationship with some of your trees' roots. It's an awesome method of agriculture with so much room for new ideas.

Thanks for the correction!

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This is cool! Growing food is a great form of direct action. Making paper out of hemp would be cool too!

Check out permies, a permaculture hub. They've got all sorts of sources and info for you. The forum is also full of nice people with lots of knowledge.

I know so many people who will love this comment lol, stealing and spreading

It is too late for good options, we now have the choice before us between :A lots of genocide and B: lots and lots and lots of genocide. I don't know yet whether bamboo can help us shift from B to A, but I know for certain that the current traditional construction materials aren't going to help so we might as well start trying it, worst case: status quo.

@@bramvanduijn8086 could you elaborate on the "genocide" part?

​@@bramvanduijn8086 What are you talking about?

@@ashleybyrd2015 yeah I have no idea. Maybe by "genocide" they just mean lots of people dying as a natural consequence of climate change?