We gave Hitler half of Czechoslovakia, and that did not "appease" the Nazi's very long.

@@5353Jumper We?

You push someone against the wall and call "appeasement" allowing them to breath. And when they punch you in the face, you call them a "bully". GTFO.

You may not want to appease one, but you also don't want to actively provoke one. One needs some awareness of how the other side is processing the world. You could hardly say that the US was being delusional during the Cuban Missile Crisis... It's not worth it to let your enemies gain that kind of position.

Russian?

I agree that we shouldn't tiptoe around Putin's personal hangups about the West and America.

Chamberlain knew a war was happening he just brought Britain more time to ready up

@@rossicourvosi218 lol thats not at all what happend

@@madarah8533 read his biography

If Russia takes Ukraine, Putin will move on Poland. Poland has bombers that can reach Moscow. How will Poland respond to Russian troops crossing into Poland?

Chamberlain was in a much more severe bind than people realize. 1. Britain wasn’t ready for all out war(Germany wasn’t either but they were ahead of Britain) and more importantly the Dominions would not support War. Canada was lukewarm at best, so they may not join, and S. Africa and Australia were completely opposed(see Gallipoli if you want to know why). So Chamberlain went to the peace talks with his hands tied behind his back he could be the PM that appeased Hitler or the PM that shattered the British Empire. He chose the former.

War has broken out... And I hear Ukraine is desperate for recruits. Do it. Or are you just a blowhard coward?

Right on brother! Slava Ukraine!

​@@marcob.7801bandera salute suits ya. Keep it up.

You should go and fight now. Why wait? Quick wile your life is still worth 1 dollar and Ukrainian 1 penny. Does it feel good your life is worth that much more?

@@zivaradlovacki2666 It's a turn of phrase! Anyone with a sane mind, an understanding of greedy human nature and even a remote knowledge of pre and post WW2 era history does not want Ukraine to founder. When she says "pennies on the dollar"...she is referring to the MOST pragmatic and logical solution to Ukraine's ( and, IMHO, the world's)....immediate need! Don't take everything so literally! Think realistically, not ideologically. In essence, grow up!

This is wishful thinking. If they are forced they will use it and they will lose 0 support.

The question is not 'will Putin use nukes' (he probably would rather than lose), the question is 'will the officers of the nuke force follows such an order' (knowing the meaning of M.A.D. for them, their families and Russia).

Really 😂😂😂

3. He has no nukes. His weapons are many decades old, maintained by an absolutely corrupt military. Image you are a corrupt general.. how much of the maintenance money goes into maintenance on weapons that are never supposed to be fired?

Estimated deaths of 500000+, 115 Billion dollars spent so far and you say pennies on the dollar? Holy fuck man nothing about this is sensible, and that's assuming that just like the war on terror which was a massive failure that this campaign won't be one too.

Better? Current every missle that is send to Ukraine is a missle that cannot be used in Taiwan. And Ukraine is a country that will never in future recover even if they somehow take Donbas back. Their demographics will never work, and too many have left Ukraine already.

⁠​⁠@@atishayritulpatwawe can build more missiles and frankly, there’s no way for china to really have a successful invasion to get a toe hold on the island in the next 10 years. And Taiwan has a vested interest in repelling a Chinese invasion.

@@mattgriewahn8554 missiles are not 1939 tanks, they can’t be build within a day. Russian took two years to ramp up their production, and Americans would take the same. And Americans have not started to ramp up their production.

Pennies on the dollar. The most entitled statement an American could ever say. In your smugness, you just implied that the lives of Ukrainian soldiers are worth pennies to you.

There has never been a nuclear power involved in an existential war until now.

@@antonoko Cold War era proxy wars ring any bell to you? Korean War? Vietnam? No?

@@infrared337 No. None of those conflicts were existential for either nuclear power

@@TDH_1962 ah you meant to the nuclear power? Ok, Cuba maybe? I don't think Ukraine being Independent from Russia poses existential threat to Russia. And if it does, that is their own internal problem.

@@TDH_1962 yes another one believing groups of Russian speaking Ukrainians magically pulled out army worth of tanks and assault rifles to start a rebellion against Ukraine with no help from Russian army direct involvement. You are a lost cause.

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Yup and shes a loaded pistol...its pretty sharp a-z

Well, how did western countries bring global south to starvation going in to 21 century, for hundreds of years now?

The way she said it lol😂

@@rayray0313 you mean how did global west put great chunk of global south into powerty for centuries to this day?

@@rayray0313 how did 20% of global population (west) put 80% of global population( south) in poverty for hundreds of years to this day?

@@zivaradlovacki2666 we found you in poverty, developed the industrial revolution which enriched us, then shared those technologies with the rest of the world who are struggling to catch up due to endemic corruption, bad civics and bad ethics.

wroong...Putin is not Hitler...

@@cedricvogt2576 Enough similarities to make the comparison. Hitler made the excuse for taking Sudetenland to protect ethnic Germans , Putin claims to want to protect ethnic Russians in Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia. Hitler had political opponents killed or put into concentration camps, Putin has political opponents killed or put into Gulags, Hitler wanted and empire, Putin wants to re-establish one. Hitler was diagnosed as a psychopath, so is Putin. Only difference is the political ideology they use to commit their crimes, like Hitler and Stalin were more similar than different. In reality NAZI fascism and communism are two sides of the same coin.

@@carlanderson7618 dont be so intellectually lazy. Hitler was a mad man who did not last longer than a decade to launch a huge world war. Putin on the other hand is widely regarded to be one of the best politicians (by Ray Dalio etc.)… he is in charge for decades and did not have any plans to launch a war, he wanted the same kind of military operation that worked in Georgia in 2008. He doesnt even have the ressources to conquer Ukraine, how should he attack more countries? Just fear mongering out of nonsense.

It’s just Ukraine !

​@@carlanderson7618 one major difference is that Nazi Germany was a superpower, who were able to defeat Poland and France in a matter of weeks, while Putin hasn't been able to defeat Ukraine in over two years and counting.

To ?

She's a a hack.

Facts she is 💯

She seems to be a neo con supplying the rationale for US interventions

She is 100% propagandist

that the problem, people talking alone without getting counter by anyone, watch debates, not monologues

​@@traitretrudeau2367 You’re right, no one should ever watch anything other than debates. I apologize. Next time I’ll be sure to check with you and get your approval before I watch anything else.

I've heard a Polish military brass say in a interview that their doctrine against Russia is not only defend poland but attack Russia.

@@ajez597 yeah after repelling Russian invasion, that makes sense.

Despite Putin's hysterical squealing about "the collective West," no one really wants Russia to cease to exist. That absolutely is not what this war is about, despite %ucker Carslon and the other paid propagandists' untiring efforts to present it as such to their semi-literate totalitarian-minded audiences: retirees in rural Russia, a few fringe neonazi parties across Europe and of course the MAGA "I love the poorly educated" cult in America. No, this war is simply about the civilized world finally putting a stop to a deranged tyrant's brutal 19th-century imperialism. Nothing more and nothing less. Russia already is *quite literally the biggest empire on Earth!* Well, let them have it and do soul searching... I hear the Russian soul is great - the question is, will the Russians themselves someday find it?

Didn't you watch the last nuclear triad test Russia conducted?

You really want to find out?

Most of them yes. Are the russian ones cspable

To be fair, I’d assume that’s one of the few things they genuinely try to maintain

@@SkywalkerPaulthat just means they could make a new bomb…it doesn’t really say anything about the thousands of old ones in inventory.

can you tell me a single way putin is doubling down? it'S the US doubling down with no back down plan lol, this woman would get destroye din an actual debate

@@traitretrudeau2367 It's hard to tell anything about this conflict due to the dishonest media. Do you remember how "sick and dying" Putin was?? Where the hell did that come from? Media lies.

"tell me a single way putin is doubling down?" Putin is doubling down by repeatedly sending in more troops after the initial invasion attempt stalled.

Yeah no one would like to stay in a buffer state perhaps, you may not even like Putin or Russia; but NATO have always been provacateur supreme. Just ask the entire Eastern Hermisphere. There is a reason why most people in the Eastern hemsiphere are more sympathetic towards Russia.

Really? We have the biggest war mongering criminals in the world.

Imagine russian nukes in Mexico. How would US react?? Nato should have been dissolved alongside the soviet union. US withdraw from 2 major missile agreements unilateraly. The Russians are freaking out

@@vitorlopes2064 hey the guy who gave Nato its purpose is Putin himself. Even made Sweden and Finland join. See its nothing to do with US expansionism, every one who wanted to join Nato did so willingly the first chance they could. Everyone of those countries including mine had been invaded or occupied by Russia in the past.

@@peterkratoska4524 after the fall of the soviet union NATo became just a big US weapons sale plattform and instrument of control. Lets not forget what nato did in the middle east and yogoslavia… was it ” defensive”?

The most stupid implication she made is that Russia is going towards North Korea. Which is just sheer decietful propaganda with someone from her qualification.

@@lightforce4604 Is Russia more or less authoritarian now than they were 15 years ago? Is Russia more or less isolated now than they were 15 years ago? I think that's what she is referring to when she said Russia is going towards N Korea.

​@@lightforce4604 I mean, who is supplying the Kremlin gnome with arms these days, aside from the Ayatollah? Why, Fat Kim, of course!

Really, ask this question is it in Americas best interest to defend one dictatorship the size of Texas (Ukraine) if it means destabilizing a continent sized power (Russia) into civil war. Look how much the Syrian civil war and infighting in Iraq after our intervention in those countries, or us meddling in Iran before the revolution has upset the middle east. Do we really want an unstable Russia? Is another Russian revolution/or civil war in our interest? How radical will they become after another round of revolution/civil war, look how the treaty of Versailles (no one marched into Berlin) which was in modern day terms just sanctions and guilt led to Nazi Germany and the evils they unleashed upon humanity. In a post communist Russian age with an ever present threat of communist China, is it really smart to push Russia into Chinas arms and into their camp. Or, is it wiser to set clear boundaries with but treat Russia as an equal to work together in the future in surrounding China and North Korea with Western states. Or should we risk a destabilized Russia which will inevitably cause more destabilizing in surrounding areas due to their size and influence over Ukraine which is not a real democracy and poses no benefit to the American order. Just a thought.

@@jacobasselta2419 Think harder. You first attempt (ever?) Is sorely lacking in intelligence. Hopefully, (for all concerned) if you keep trying, you may get it one day. Can’t debunk each and every one of your Phuhuqed up beyond belief assumptions, because,…….they are without basis in reality. But your valiant effort to make them seem correct,……yeah, that failed too. Your caretaker must be so……🤦🏾‍♂️

@@jacobasselta2419 yes

​@@jacobasselta2419i stopped readi g when you said china was communist, get your shit together.

​@@jacobasselta2419ukraine is still a democracy.

Because Marjorie Taylor Green disagrees with you doesn’t make her a traitor. A lot of people are asking the same questions she is, and I don’t see why that isn’t legit. The word “traitor” is being overused a lot today, sort of like “racist”. Eventually, if it keeps up, it will become meaningless…

t is

​@@jamesw1659 It goes a bit beyond simple disagreement. She called for the execution of Democrat politicians and a national divorce.

No its not, only in propaganda use.

in general, the West has always been the cause of wars, and the United States used nuclear weapons in Japan, and also planned to use them in Korea and Vietnam, but pressure from the Soviets stopped them 🤫

Who cares who started it? Ukraine definitely aint worth a nuclear holocaust.

Right, moral victories like this will surely matter when everything's turned to dust.

US started this by trying to.get Ukraine to join NATO

That we don't decide how Russians interpret things. And it wouldn't be right to deem eastern Europeans worthless, and sacrifice them for it. Also that it's unlikely.

😅 It’s always the 1930s before World War Two for you global intervenionalists. We are always at risk of being next Neveile Chamberlain if we don’t intervene. The adversary is always the next Evil Super Villain. (20 years ago it was Saddam Husain; today it’s Putin) The Evil Super Villain is always harboring super evil plans to take over the world or something. And we American citizens are always on the hook to pay for it.

But you would have ignored both hitler and Japan if they hadn’t attacked you directly. I don’t have illusions in western democracy. They will sacrifice us here in Ukraine if they believe that Russia will stop here and won’t go any further.

Yeah but the sanctions and embargoes are a consequence of *THEIR* decisions - *THEY* chose that path.

Very well said! I too would relish such a discussion. Much respect to all the scholars you’ve mentioned… a real “marketplace of ideas” with respect, honesty and humility… to build understanding… this is so needed in the world.

Sarah Paine is the exact opposite of John Mearsheimer regarding these issues lol.

@@lightforce4604 Right. That’s why I would like to hear them have a discussion.

I mean Spain is in Europe and Mexico is in the americas. There’s an ocean between the two

@@sentryion3106 true that. But they were a maritime nation, but also a continental land grabber continental empire, perhaps?

No

America did no go to war with afghanistan. They were fighting terrorists im the country of afghanist which the country supported. Same thing in syria. America did go to war with iraq which is true and i will admit did not so good things.

False equivalence. 1. American war in vietnam is equivalent to russian assitance to syrian regime. 2. American war in afghanistan - 9/11 was a response to an attack. 3. American war with iraq- sadam started it with war on neighbours who were american allies. This narrative is the "muah murica bad" which removes agency on other parties in the world stage (racism of low espectations).

​@@puraLusaKuwait did actually steal 50 Billion in oil from sovereign territory of Iraq and the United States gave the green light before Saddam attacked. But later the invasion in the new millennium was on knowingly false pretenses and they prevented Antibiotics for reaching Iraq. Lately United States has pretended that just crazy people in Yemen are attacking US shipping. When you deliberately create a famine by preventing imports of grain properly paid for to feed civilians people tend to hate you. Oh and preventing insecticide for the purpose of not having a plague of locusts was a nice touch.

​@@puraLusa 1.not really, it was more like supporting british in the american war for independence Vietnam was a colony of France, imperialist France, we-consider-your-culture-and-religion-inferior-and-will-civilize-you-by-force France, your-resources-are-ours France, it was also really badly done, the guy americans put in charge of southern vietnam was a catholic monk who had no desire or drive for leadership, and was a symbol of the forced conversion of the people to christianity. Nothern Vietnam became communist because capitalists were fighting them and communists were willing to support them, not the other way around. 2.taliban had nothing to do with 9/11, in fact similarly to the vietnamese, the taliban formed to oppose soviet occupation of afghanistan, and to them (and many afghani) americans were just another foreign empire invading their homeland and forcing their values and culture on them, also: here we built your village a well, surely that makes up for a third of it being destroyed by our bombing runs? Also the war in Syria? it is one thing to fight terrorists, it is another to have an entire military base sit there and watch as an ancient city full of history and culture dating back well before Christ, is being bombed by the terrorist you are supposed to fight until eventually the Syrian military is forced to abandon it, to those very terrorists you are supposed to fight, all the while a conversation leaks, where one the generals in charge of the war says something along the lines of: let's see if this forces the syrian government to the negotiating table. Which by the way, pick a side, is the Syrian government a brutal regime with no care for it's people and supposedly commits genocide on them, or are they going to accept american terms (because that is what negotiation means let's be frank) to save their people Let's not forget that Isis is destroyed, Trump ordered the pentagon generals to withdraw from Syria (which they PRETENDED to do, but not really, to keep the troops there until Biden came in) where a third of the country is occupied, oh look, 100% of the oil fields in Syria are in that occupied region, and an American company is drilling the oil I have this sinking feeling if I read more into the Iraq war I would find out it was nowhere near as black and white either

@@cathulionetharn5139 have no pacience for a long essay based on a false permisse. Vietnam - france had left - had a democratic gov in the south and a commie one in the north - south asked usa for help. Syria - france had left - socialist gov in southwest - several factions all over (civil war) - asked russia for help. So, my example fits perfectly and doesn't need false permisse and mental ginmastics.

Seriously? She described Russian power dynamics VERY accurately.. she does it EVERY time she talks about how Eastern Europe has essentially been driven into the arms of Nato because of past Russian aggression. Russian behavior both recently and in the past is proof they are not to be trusted. Don't confuse Russian maskirova with reality. I can absolutely guarantee that Ms. Paine doesn't confuse those two. How you missed this is well beyond me.

It wasn't an American strategy? It was a German one? It even has a name, Wandel durch Handel. I love how stupid people think it's a uniquely American thing to be domestically selfish, or oblivious to differences in cultural attitudes or priorities.

Well, not necessarily the priority for LEADERS of other counties.

Truth be told people in Eastern Europe have despised the Russians for centuries, they've fought loads of wars over the centuries. It really doesn't have anything to do with the US and we need to be careful about getting involved but that ship has sailed. What this war is really about is the Russian oil, natural gas as well as the resources of Central Asia. From what I see Russia is winning the economic war and the US position isn't really feasible in the long run. Keeping Eastern European countries as vassal states has no economy to it for the US or them. It makes sense for Western Europe but they don't have the resources to support them.

Do you really think ordinary russians or Chinese to choose the priorities of their governments?

Probably Ukraine (call me a russian troll please).

Most in the US do support Ukrainian, there are a few Putin sympathizers that were trying to sabotage things.