Are you sure you need 1 ton axles?

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1 TONS... DANA 60, DANA 70, DANA 80, 14 BOLT, STERLING 10.5. Do you need one ton axles? Are you sure? Your Dana 44, or Toyota axles might not be enough for your project. In today's video we will explore when it's time to bite the bullet and get those axles your buddies have been saying you need. Not everyone needs to upgrade but in certain builds, one ton axles are the only way you can meet the demands of your 4x4.
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@metaldog7128 4 жыл бұрын

Never apologise for teaching something to people, everyone has to start somewhere 👍

@richfarfugnuven6308 4 жыл бұрын

100% agreement. Rod Hall and Ivan Stewart did not pop out of the womb knowing how to offroad race...

@FirstGendodgegarage Жыл бұрын

When people don’t listen and then ask for help later is a kick in the nuts

@cliffziglar 4 жыл бұрын

finally somebody tells the truth about needing axles and weight

@immelting9834 2 жыл бұрын

Still looking for a axle set for my WJ and 37's

@HomeWrenchin 4 жыл бұрын

You ALWAYS need tons. The only thing that would make my wife’s Mazda 6 better is tons and 40s 😂

@bugsnstuff5643 4 жыл бұрын

😂

@immelting9834 3 жыл бұрын

I'm looking at putting 44's under my BMW X5

@CFairNH 4 жыл бұрын

" Going through ring and pinions like nobody's business." Best wine in the whole video. Always enjoy the content, Keep it coming.!! You really inspired me to do a lot of my own fabrication over the last few months, I love it. And I've noticed recently. That you're editing. Camera work, etc. Has all gotten better. Keep up the good work.!!

@DirtLifestyle 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy, I appreciate it 👍

@gen1c8rs88 4 жыл бұрын

@@DirtLifestyle A 1991 K5 Blazer with a 285 SAE HP 350 that weighs 6000 lbs with 30 spline 10 bolts and 37×12.50's, would I need a full float 14 bolt, just get the c-clip elimination kit, or leave the axles stock ?

@D3thM3tal 4 жыл бұрын

@@gen1c8rs88 Driving style plays a large role in how things survive as well. The 14B FF rear axle will be fine, the 10 bolt front may hold up if you leave it open and don't get on the throttle when turned it should be fine.

@richfarfugnuven6308 4 жыл бұрын

@@gen1c8rs88 if you want to wheel hard on rocks, one tons are the way to go. Going slow on slick rock, then your axles will be fine... I put one tons under my 89 K5 as I climb rocks hard here in CO.

@xmo552 3 жыл бұрын

@@DirtLifestyle I'm off today doing alot of nothing, rest, and rebuild (myself). So I'm on KZfaq looking at kustoms, Holdener's channel, Mustangs, Jeep stuff, etc. So I want to ask the question nobody has asked. How do you feel about the super 35 kits? The application is a 2004 WJ, stock everything except it's on 33s maybe 35s one day but probably not. Light weekend wheeling with the fam., very minimal weight added. My main rear axle I was looking at was an iron Dana 44.

@MikeMac90 4 жыл бұрын

Man it was like you were talking to me personally. I have an xj on 33s looking to go 37s. Great video!

@difflockengage9228 4 жыл бұрын

Same but samurai

@aarons2613 4 жыл бұрын

I have an xj on Dana 44s front and rear with 35 x 12.5 and I wouldn’t go 37s without doing a bigger t case

@ericmillier6652 4 жыл бұрын

No need for an apology. I watch for the information you provide and the great entertainment. Keep building my KZfaq friend and don’t stop doing what you do!

@mikehancho5286 4 жыл бұрын

2016 JKUR 4" Mopar lift, Yuon 4:88's, Gusseted "C's" , RCV 32 spline Front shafts, Ten factor 32 spline rear shafts, 37's Milestar Patagonia's. Shaved stock rear bumper, Poison Spyerfront bumper. I dont carry a ton of gear since I dont wheel alone. Wheelign style is easy on the $$$$ pedal,and I hit Easy to moderate trails in Washington/Snow wheeling. I consider my build mild, and capable with decent reliability. Just as long as you know when to let off, and pull cable. Everything breaks...............EVERYTHING. It is all on how you treat it. Ya got to...... "If you're gonna play the game, boy You gotta learn to play it right You've got to know when to hold 'em Know when to fold 'em Know when to walk away And know when to run"

@cencoast_7.340 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the parts list of your vehicle

@cincybrian5177 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the great intel; appreciate you taking the time to do these in-depth vids before the build. Great stuff!

@foihdzas 4 жыл бұрын

Ill never come close to needing Tons, but im really looking forward to watching your fabrication and build of this LC

@JoeGarofaloII 4 жыл бұрын

$600 for the set of 1 tons?!?! Nice! Can't wait to see you work on em!

@MikeMac90 4 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm saying near me you wont find these for less the $1000.

@bradywilliams2666 4 жыл бұрын

@@MikeMac90 Pair of 1 tons here are $800-1200.

@coolHandLuke5150 4 жыл бұрын

SD stuff is cheap and common. Do need a SD60? No but it cheaper to find and build thenna HP44.

@HywayHauler 4 жыл бұрын

SD 60, dime a dozen due to small diameter stubs and ball joint knuckles. HP king pin 60, those are the expensive ones.

@wvjeepguy8178 4 жыл бұрын

Kingpin 60 are only expensive because they're a little easier to convert over. SD60 are stronger than any old school KP axle.

@hazyhuckleberry7642 3 жыл бұрын

I have been a disco owner for 12 years now, and I have dreamt about doing this same thing for the last 10 of them but lack the Know-how. Thank you for your hard work, research, and disco love!

@hawkie333 4 жыл бұрын

Wise words, and as always..great content! You’re so right about the weight....it sneaks up on you with all the crazy bumpers and gear on the market. The unsprung weight itself is actually insane when you add a D60, D80, and big tires, calipers, etc. My truck is a completely different vehicle when unloaded and no rack. I was at 8700 lbs empty and I realized I was already legally at full GCVW....I had to start lightening things up and it makes a big difference.

@michael-michaelmotorcycle 4 жыл бұрын

Deals are out there. I got 60’s for free. I was given a beat to shit 32k original mile Dodge truck that was a snowplow in a mountain subdivision it’s entire life. It ran & drove perfectly, it had just bounced off every tree in the county at least 3 times. I parted it out for the engine and axles. Axles for sure will be going in my scrambler soon.

@MrJohnnyboythefirst 4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what i wanted to see, Never too much information. cant wait to do this myself

@sseibonnevilleman 4 жыл бұрын

Been running my 99-04 60 for 2 years with original shafts and joints from the JY. Finally after 2 years I broke a lockout.... that’s with a welded carrier, 5.38s, 41.5 Rockers.

@LvdMade 4 жыл бұрын

Yes!! In so gonna love this one. I also was thinking to do something with the suspension setup, but keeping the stock axles.

@SkyBlueOffRoad 4 жыл бұрын

My 8.8 is 2.5 off center in my TJ and 5 years no issues being off center to passenger that i have found

@7t2z28 4 жыл бұрын

Same with my YJ.

@rockapeoverlandingandadven8935 3 жыл бұрын

I learn each time I watch,new to channel but will continue to watch every video from here on out

@johnduff6436 4 жыл бұрын

Thinking of jumping into some fab work on my old XJ now that I'm officially retired. Your stuff is informative and pleasant to see.

@lanceleavitt7472 2 жыл бұрын

Great information, and I love that you're not reading from a script.

@richardbetzenderfer8577 4 жыл бұрын

Watching this build with intense interest. I just picked up a 1967 Land Rover Series IIA and want to do much the same to it. The rear axle is already a one ton, but I hope to change the suspension to what it looks like you are about to do. Also glad to see you have better filters on that mask.

@glenncourtney4876 4 жыл бұрын

I had a 78 Jeep Cherokee Chief for a while, had a T18 4 speed, Dana 20 transfercase with center output and an offset Dana 44 rear axle. The offset rear axle was what most Cherokees had because the quadratrac transfercase had the offset to the right with a rear output. Drove that thing quite a bit and never had any issues with joints or driveline. One tons are so cute and girly. I have a set of Axletech 4000s that are going to find their way under one of my M715s soon.

@praterbrothers4wd907 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve broken 30 spline stubs and lockouts. My brother running the same axle has as well. Spiced solid joints have held up pretty well. I finally upgraded to 35 spline stubs and flanges.

@wesbarcus3761 3 жыл бұрын

Have a 93 YJ. 10 years ago I put 1 tons under it with 37s. Everybody asked why. Now, 10 years later I'm heavily armored, atlas 4 speed, nv4500, 9. 5 Warn winch, and EVERYTHING is still original on the 1 tons , nothing has broken yet, and I go wherever I want.

@cracker_jacked_jlu 4 жыл бұрын

And this video is why you are always my go to for anything build wise. Thank you for all the education and inspiration.

@DirtLifestyle 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man 👊

@duneattack 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent Vid, Nate! The thing I most like about your videos is the information and technical considerations you present. You are always on point. Please, never, ever dumb it down for us. I come here to learn, not just to "See what everyone else is doing". I need the nuts and bolts of WHY people do what they do. I finally learned exactly why (in this vid) you are able get away with running built 44's on your JK , and all the considerations to take into account when deciding which axle to use! BIG THANKS to you, Brother. Keep your vid's tech and rationale heavy. I for one, eat that kind of stuff up... and while I'm at it, put this in your pocket: We are more knowledgeable Jeepers because of the time and effort you put into your presentations! Keep em coming! Ay Corona! :)

@DirtLifestyle 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy! I appreciate the support 👊

@DrHavok1 4 жыл бұрын

YES!!! Super excited to see a new build this is going to be so much fun

@kdigiacomo 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. Appreciate all the extra info even if it doesn't apply to what I'm personally building. If the video was twice as long I'd still watch it all.

@VictorVectorJKU 3 жыл бұрын

Good detail Nate! Definitely more for me to consider with the direction on my axle swap I need to do! I’m running my Dana 30 Dana 44 package with 3.73 on my JKU with 37’s and working to decide how to go. Excited to check out the fab video!

@TheGersh13 4 жыл бұрын

Love all the info! Don't apologize for it!

@billwinkle3291 3 жыл бұрын

Stop apologizing for information heavy content. There is nothing more frustrating than watching a build when little to no information is given. Thanks for your thoroughness, really enjoy your channel.

@DirtLifestyle 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@marshallbailey95 4 жыл бұрын

I love these videos because of the variety of trucks, and no prejudice of manufactures.

@ivanperkes6006 4 жыл бұрын

Good stuff. Excited to see the end product. Also made my first welding project because of your videos. Keep up the good work.

@ianboyd5436 4 жыл бұрын

This looks like a great build super excited to see it come together.

@pedevildog 4 жыл бұрын

This video was perfect timing. I'm looking up 1 tons on a 4runner and needed something to watch while looking, and you happened to release a video about actually needing them or not. Now I'm even more confused on what I want. lol

@moabwheeling 4 жыл бұрын

This is going to be an awesome build series Nate . Looking forward to see what your vision ends up being . Until next time take care my friend .

@fredflintstone1547 3 жыл бұрын

my brother and I did the rubicon last week in his old 4runner on 38.5's with a 1 ton rear and smaller solid axle front that my brother swapped in with a wimpy 3.0L v6 geared super low. It was my first time wheeling and I'm hooked. my bro did most of the fabrication work himself and it turned out well. by the time we made it to observation point both of the rear shock mounts had failed, but the leaf springs got us home. I am now beginning my search for my own rig. I am leaning towards a 1st generation tundra with a 4.7L v8 as my canvas. thanks for the videos. Your presentation is very straight forward and clear. you obviously know your stuff.

@jimgavin1799 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, I’m really looking forward to this build and your knowledge that goes with it. Thank you

@davethewelder1 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. You talk specific issues, no messing around. Not looking to do your type of rock crawling, just some overland and beach drives. I'm thinking 8.8 rear axle and maybe Dana 35. Your info helps my decision-making. Thanks again.

@cincybrian5177 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, as always. 👍 Now you’ve got me planning out 1 tons, coils (and bags) on my Sport Trac 🧐 Thanks, Nate!

@MakinEndsMeet69 4 жыл бұрын

Love your descriptions that you use, pretty honest about everything that you talk about that's for sure. Definitely a trustworthy wheeler, I like that for sure, it's like the description I use for urban Cowboys.You know the guys in the pickup trucks that are lifted like monster trucks but all they do is drive on the highway or go to the mall .LOL, Hey brother stay safe please you and your family God bless

@TheTreadLife_ 4 жыл бұрын

Don't apologize for information! It's 75% of the reason we're here!

@cowboykyle 4 жыл бұрын

Good videos, good information. I haven't read every comment so.... If what I'm about to say has been convered - sorry. 😬 1) what year model is your 99-04 axle? You probably already know this, but it may benefit your viewers to discuss the 99-02 & 03/04 issues. If you're unfamiliar, reach out. 2) 2003-2014 all used the same 1480 u-joints. They didn't go to 1550 u-joints until 2015. 3) look for a 2011+ rear differential and you might get lucky and find a factory electric locker before you re-gear.

@jried9378 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, I’m on my 2nd Jeep with tons. Built the first one myself and had a shop do the 2nd

@scottmason2094 4 жыл бұрын

I got 1 tons on my YJ, love them , can’t wait for more videos

@phillippearce9680 4 жыл бұрын

Great info! Looking forward to the fab work!👍

@Bread996 4 жыл бұрын

Hell to the yes. I kept the radius arms when I swapped in tons. Can’t wait to see how you link yours! When this damn quarantine is over I def wanna come check out your garage.

@Wooskii1 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see you get started!

@menash23 4 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to follow this build.

@mnsterbruiser 4 жыл бұрын

Love the content here. Can't wait to see the construction.

@africandude13 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely don't apologize!! Looking forward to the next vid 🤟

@TreAdidas 2 жыл бұрын

This video helped me make up my mind. Very helpful. Thx!!

@05glisedan 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the code... Came in handy on our last purchase.... Looking forward to this build.

@brianwills4398 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely 100% correct with everything you said. 36" tires on my xj with d44 up front and stock 8.25 in back. Weight is key, I don't carry a spare cause it's heavy.

@jake-coombs 4 жыл бұрын

Good video as always. In the UK we fit Nissan y61 Axel's onto discovery 2 running gear. The rear axle has the diff in the centre with a wide angle prop shafts there is no problems. They are also running 40s.

@TASCOM44 4 жыл бұрын

Super pumped for this series of videos, I can't wait to see how the land rover turns out

@austinsauer1373 4 жыл бұрын

Looking to do 1 tons in the future. Informational videos are much appreciated!

@FishGoesWub 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you uploaded this video, I have a FSJ Cherokee Chief on 40's , Custom 3 link in the front and a shackle flip in the rear ( I fabbed up everything ) I got it weighed (With a front and rear set of wilwood Big Brake calipers and rotors, as well as a bunch of other junk that shouldn't have been in there when I got it weighed. ) It came in right at 5k Lbs, People give me a lot of weird looks being on 40's and Dana 44's, And a lot of oh you're going to destroy your axles and this that and the other, But the truth is, its a 40 year old truck with a body in amazing shape, I'm not going to be wheeling the snot out of it and destroying the body, Some back road's and camping with capability to do some harder trails if need-be. The front axle Has RCV's in it and very nice ring and pinion, The back is the same but with stock axles (Yikes) . I'll continue to drive it this way unless I Break things, But then I have the 4wp warranty for 5 years so I'll just get replacement parts for free.

@bendall2006 4 жыл бұрын

That is good to know on the Dana 60. I have a 05 plus sitting in my garage. I just need to find something to put it under. Nice video.

@99mystic1 4 жыл бұрын

One hell of a project... Love it

@honoratoherrera1048 4 жыл бұрын

Just the title alone is golden, making videos about things I don't know I am curious about man

@appalachianoperator 4 ай бұрын

Towing and payload capacity. Plus an 8 lug truck just looks so cool.

@boostdtalon 3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad I circled back and watched this episode. Lots of good information put out.

@tonesguitars 4 жыл бұрын

yes, thank you for this video!

@landyandy9617 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Nate, if not already done so might want to check the motor for slipped liner issues. The 4.6’s are notorious for it. Only fix is a full rebuild using a block that has ‘top hat’ liners installed... or an LS swap. Great content, keep it coming 👍

@jakelannetti3128 4 жыл бұрын

It’s very cool how Nate seems to be daunted by no project, he will fabricate anything. This is gonna be a great project

@Rover_it 4 жыл бұрын

I am going through the exact same build right now, 2003 discovery, same color also,lol Cant wait to see what you have coming.

@jodycorbitt8671 4 жыл бұрын

Man, i had no idea the Disco's rear axle was that far off center. Definitely interested to see how the Sterling lines up (or doesn't) with a good driveshaft setup. Tuned in for the overland build for the Disco! Keep the solid content coming....loving it. And really liking the additional video editing.

@jeffriley2502 3 жыл бұрын

Great breakdown of reality and need.

@dmelberg 4 жыл бұрын

Love all the info. Thank you!!

@hisnameisiam808 4 жыл бұрын

Based on your recommendation(and what I can afford) I've gone with the high pinion d30 from a Cherokee, trussed and an ox. Ford 8.8 rear. I understand I will be pushing it but I'm going to run 37s. I will get chromoly or cv eventually. For now I'm gonna do some light wheeling with the guys. I've wanted 37s ever since I purchased this jeep when I was 15 and it had 33s at the time. I'm 27 now and have never broken anything while offroad with the d35 and d30 that came with the jeep. I hope the 8.8 and hp30 are as good to me as these axels have been. Thank you and keep up the hard work!

@jayr1757 4 жыл бұрын

The information was awesome in this video!

@gdazey1 4 жыл бұрын

Dude thank you for keeping your channel running.

@BluePrintLab101 4 жыл бұрын

Super informative! Awesome content, keep up the amazing work!

@kevinbates5760 4 жыл бұрын

Great Vid!! It's great you are taking the Disco to the Rubicon. I am planning on taking my 5th gen 4runner. Getting it ready.

@tomhubbard353 4 жыл бұрын

Barnes Ford 8.8 truss/bracket to TJ kit is bad ass, I used it in my 99 and could not be happier!

@paulharris8282 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love this !

@slam8219 4 жыл бұрын

super helpful I'm always trying to find info especially on newer axles, currently building a pair of 9" hybrid axles a 9" center 44 outer front and a 9" w/ 14 bolt hub 35 spline ARB rear.

@davidross43 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, I just wanted to tell you as an owner of 3 jeeps, but not very mechanically inclined, I really enjoy your videos. I don't do alot of work on my own rigs so I have to pay to have the majority of the stuff done but the reason I love your videos is at least I can understand what exactly is being done and the reason behind it. VERY information, thank you!

@DirtLifestyle 4 жыл бұрын

No problem! Thank you for watching 👍

@Intergalactic_monkey 4 жыл бұрын

Ive been looking at these discovery series 2. I have an extra set of Chevy 1 tons. I’m glad to see the rover is already a passenger drop

@maijhiselemani458 4 жыл бұрын

Just what i needed to hear... thanks.

@hobbyjumpers 4 жыл бұрын

Loved this video. Even watched the ads all the way through to help support the channel! Looking forward to the driver to passenger side swap...

@DirtLifestyle 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I appreciate the support man

@copperinstaller9215 3 жыл бұрын

One tones are a different world . I love it !

@17quarters48 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks, I have a variety of land rovers fro a 1968 to a 02 Disc, the reason land rover put the pumpkins both on the right is so you go over a rock on the left and miss hitting them

@stcfabworx1687 4 жыл бұрын

Good video bro. So very true! Weight means more power needed. I went 1 tons because I daily drive my Jeep. And spent many times coming from browns camp with a broken stub shaft clicking all the way home to work on the Jeep so I can get to work the next day. So now I can wheel it drive home. Go to work hahaha. Just makes it a bit more bullet proof. Now I want to build a 14 bolt front. For my 69 Chevy service truck!

@ironhorseoverland7353 4 жыл бұрын

Hey I love your channel, it is amazing to see the things you do with fabrication....

@lakeschoolrestorationchann1567 4 жыл бұрын

I run 1 ton axles that came with my 2010 f250. Running 6in lift on 40s. I wheel hard. I am the only guy out of my crew that a) hasn’t blown their axle up, b) haven’t had wheel bearing failure, and c) haven’t had excessive brake wear or caliper failures. Not to mention I haven’t been replacing wearables either (such as ball joints). I hate having broken parts and having to work on something just to make it work (working on something to make it better is a different story). The only thing a Dana 60 gives up is weight and ground clearance, but you gain time between rebuilds, less parts breakage, ability to run bigger tires and more in the end more time wheeling less time fixing broken stuff.

@rodd33 4 жыл бұрын

Good video Nate. Cheers.

@wyattoneable 4 жыл бұрын

Great information for us new guys.

@defender90keswick.nigelsla59 4 жыл бұрын

I am sooo looking forward to this developing. I am currently fitting HD diff pans to my Land Rover axles and am considering custom truss fabrication. Keep these great videos coming!!

@landyandy9617 4 жыл бұрын

Defender90 Keswick. Nigel's Land Rover channel. You should check out my 609 axle development on Defender source, is a real mixed bag of parts 😉

@05glisedan 4 жыл бұрын

We could never have too much information... Keep'em coming...

@AttwoodsGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Good fun. I redid the JKR44 front in mine. Bought it in pieces, tubes had broke. Retubed with 3/8" wall DOM, has Barnes and Ballistic pieces, 4.88 and e locker. Have fun pressing the tubes out of the pig. Hope you have access to a lathe! :)

@shanemartinson5006 4 жыл бұрын

going to be a very cool project Nate can't wait to see it.

@EverythingOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын

Being a Design Engineer, Jeep guy and camping person, you are doing it correctly. You sure don't need my opinion, but I will say I agree with you.

@mesanders1113 4 жыл бұрын

Well said sir! Weight is the most important overlooked factor.

@garysteele9141 4 жыл бұрын

I am not into off roading, but love the content and fabrication info! Great channel!

@DirtLifestyle 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm happy to have you aboard!

@chrismoebus19 4 жыл бұрын

DUDE!?!?!?! I freaking love the blue Jeep pickup 👌👌👌

@DirtLifestyle 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jonaathansimons7938 4 жыл бұрын

Low buck option for the front axle u-joint ears issue- weld a plate on the outside ala Iron Rock Offroad's "Almost Alloy" caps for the D30. Reinforces the weakness of the ears' thin wall and reduces 'warping' under heavy load. Not as cool as RCVs, but buys time to save the scratch while usin' yer rig...