One of the best optic reviews on youtube. Straight to the point..
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!!
@davep31633 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for talking about the reticle, a lot of FFP reticles are too fine to hunt with at low power, so I appreciate when people point out reticle usability. 👍
@pantherhollow52902 жыл бұрын
thank you for watching.
@codystanfield93803 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a test. Would love to see the Primary Arms PLx 6-30x56, Athlon Ares ETR and the Arken gen 2 SH4 added to the "strain" test.
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
I do not see many higher power Primary Arms scopes at the range much. I have seen several Athlons and they look really good. We had a match 12-13-2020 and a guy shooting had a Midas Tac.. After looking through the Nexus and the Titan he was wanting to trade. I had an EP4 for him to look at and he liked it too. Most people look at the ret and light gathering on high power. Most scopes will start going darker after 20 power or so depending on the glass. I do not plan on having any Primary Arms scopes but I do plan on getting a few Athlons. They are very popular and hit a good price point for the long range guys. stay in touch.. I have a Tract Scope that will be coming soon. Thanks for watching. Hope this helps.
@alphazulu03 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that straightforward review, I was sitting on the fence and undecided for a while but now I am going to buy a nexus 😊
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching..
@Fishingtoys2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I own the helix on my hunting rifle and it's a nasty sob @100 to 300 yards. Clear as a blue sky in mid April. Dropped a 10 point buck at 100 yards, spot on shot no trail no suffering no bs. All I know it works extremely well and thinking about another. Keep m coming haus, 1st time viewer but not the last time. Stay blessed
@pantherhollow52902 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome... Thanks for watching.
@rhysvanwyk93676 ай бұрын
I just bought the nexus gen 1 for a Tikka t3x in 6.5prc and I cannot Wait to get out in the veld
@KevinWood44 Жыл бұрын
How would the Cronus do in this test? I just bought the Cronus, mainly bc the praise you gave it .
@rustynut19673 жыл бұрын
I just received my Arken SH4 GEN 2 about a week ago but haven't mounted it, waiting on barrel for 6mm ARC build. But so far it seems like a heck of a nice scope for the money.
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
IT IS... That scope for the money is hard to beat.. You let me know how your build goes and how you like your scope.. Nice talking with you.. Have a good one..
@bryanwilliams35243 жыл бұрын
I own the Nexus element 5-20-50. And it is best scope I’ve ever owned. I’m not just saying that. I took 5 months of research before buying. I’m sm buying another one. I shoot competitions so yes 1500 bucks is a lot. But I Guarantee. That the Nexus is the best 1500 scope on market. Vortex is 2200. Nexus blow it away. Thx for video. Do you sell online? I’m not a fan boy. I’m a Element Nexus fan. For competitions. And a Arken fan for my lower builds. Great video.
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
I use venmo to sell scopes.. I have a demo Nexus if interested.. 417-761-1099 Thanks for the comment.. I also have 1 Arken EP4 Mao left aswell..
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The Vortex Razor gen 2 is a noticeably better scope when compared side by side with the Element Nexus at 5-20x magnification and so are the Tract Toric and Athlon Cronus and Ares BTR and ETR. The Arken EP5 is about neck and neck with the Element Nexus when compared at 5-20x magnification and the Arken has better turrets and zero stop.
@spencercupit3 жыл бұрын
Best vid on scopes, thank you
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@garygates56792 жыл бұрын
MIKE I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS ...!!!! YOUR HONESTLY IS FANTASTIC...!!!!
@TheUkilledkenny3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. awesome job!
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@Lowballinoutdoorz3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I love the way u did this video
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
Thanks man... Thanks for watching...
@herschelmiers86893 жыл бұрын
The Arken sh4 6-24x50 gen II has a larger illuminated reticle that makes it better for hunting than the ep4. It’s about $100 cheaper.
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching..
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The Arken EP5 is the one to beat at $450.
@kevinbou13 жыл бұрын
Great review that's to the point, thank you!! For 50/50 hunting and paper could you recommend one, including the Athlons, for the $500 range budget. Thank You Sir! Keep it up
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
The Element Helux, SH4 Gen 1 Arken, SH4 Gen 2 Arken, 4-14 or 6-24 .... I don't have the time with the Athlon to make a proper recommendation.. another to consider is the second focal plane Element Helix. I have been VERY impressed so far with the SH4 $399 and the Helix SFP $399 Helix FFP $425. Hope this helps.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The Element Helix isn't that good of a scope. They go on sale for $275 SFP and $325 FFP fir their 6-24x50 and $330 for FFP 4-16x44. Never pay regular price for them. You will regret it.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The Athlon Midas Tac 6-24x50 has the clearest glass out of all scopes I compared it to in the $600 and under price point except for the superior Japanese Sightron SIII. Nothing under $1000 will beat it.
@numizaairguns13733 жыл бұрын
Nice video... i have Element Tatin i like the glass and positive turrets, its build like tank Lil heavy but i don't care ... I use it for Hunting...
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
Sweet.. How long have you owned it? We are selling a few Titans, I think they just need more exposure. I am running 2, one on my 22lr and one on a long range setup. They have been working really good so far.. Thanks for watching..
@brucetaylor41353 жыл бұрын
Which scope do you recommend for the Daniel Delta 5 6.5 Creedmoor? I was looking at the EP4 for the price. What are your thoughts, Enjoyed your video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on these scopes. Look forward to seeing more videos.
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
Arken 4-14 gen 1 would be a great combo.. Athlon 4-16.. Those are the scopes i would be looking at for that type of gun. hope this helps.. God bless
@ELEC_3N5P3C74R3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video! I would like to know if those stocks came with the rifles or are they aftermarket, and do they come with the magazines?
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
That is a KRG Bravo stock, they do not come with mags.. the mags you see in the video are magpul mags. Thanks for the comment..
@bryanwilliams35243 жыл бұрын
Best scope I’ve ever bought. I’m buying another one. Before element raises price. Lol
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
@@bryanwilliams3524 .. I have a few if interested..
@duesing63 жыл бұрын
I think the new Arken has illuminated crosshairs would you now consider it hunting capable? Isn't the winner the one with the highest magnification? Ide like to see you do the test again with all scopes limited to the same as the lowest magnification so we can see if any one just has better glass.
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
The SH2 would be a good hunting scope because it has elimination. And the wimmer is the Nexus at 20 power the other scopes ranged from 24 power to 25 power and the highest mag was the Vortex at 27 power. Just goes to show that you don't need all the mag to have a high quality image.
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
The SH4 would be a good hunting scope because of the elimination. That being said I have done several night tests and the SH4 has issues with high mag in low light with elimination turned on. I have a video on it at night. It works well up to about 16 power. The Vortex Razor has the best elimination of all. No distortion at high mag and no distortion at high elimination. In the day time you would never see these flaws. Some scopes are good in some areas and others a better in difficult light. I hope this helps.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The Arken EP5 is a way better match to the Element Nexus when doing a side by side comparison at 5-20x. Surprising how the optics really are about the same when comparing a $550 Arken EP5 to a $1500 Element Nexus. The Arken has superior turrets and zero stop too.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The Arken EP5 is now $450.
@kenb43033 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, enjoyed your review. Dumb question, but I'm just learning about scopes and you mentioned the Arken scope is only good for target practice and not hunting. So, why is that? Why wouldn't you use if for hunting?
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
If you are hunting in the woods on low power you cannot see the retical. Now if you are prairie dog hunting it would be useful. The scope really shines at the 10 to 24 power. It is a great target and long range scope. Just not a good woods scope due to the fine retical
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The Arken scopes are very heavy but if you don't mind the added weight and start at 10x magnification just to be able to actually see the reticle it's fine. The illumination is useless during the daytime and doesn't help to be able to see the center of the reticle on low magnification.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The only Arken scopes that's worth buying is the EP5 and specifically the 4-16x50 SH4. The last EP5 25% off sale in August 2022 was $424 and $289 currently for the SH4.
@ronowings87253 жыл бұрын
What rings are you using?
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
Arken and Athlon precision rings
@ctw2033 жыл бұрын
how well did that bergara action fit in the krg bravo chassis? i been wanting to swap out the bergara premier chassis for the bravo. i am hoping it is lighter
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
It fit great. No problems at all.
@joshuasmith58362 жыл бұрын
@PantherHollow I’ve noticed the cheek pad on your krg chassis. What and where can I find one? Thanks for your time
@pantherhollow52902 жыл бұрын
We-Bad shooting.. Thanks for watching.
@bryanwilliams35243 жыл бұрын
One thing you forgot to mention. About all Element Optics. STAINLESS STEEL TURRETS. OMG.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
Not 100% stainless steel, there are also brass in their construction.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
Many other scope brands also use stainless steel and brass just like the Elements. Arken and Athlon are just some examples.
@bryanwilliams3524 Жыл бұрын
@@commonsense5709 Scopes there’s a lot out there good and bad. It’s not a competition. Or Whatz the best cheapest of best. Find scope you like or I like that we can afford and go for it. Nexus is amazing quality scope. That has top research done. I don’t look at it as competition. DLO I take advice from people who know and have looked through the scope. Commenting on a scope you’ve never looked through is well. Don’t understand someone giving there 2 cents on something they’ve never looked through. In the range or. Hunting.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
@@bryanwilliams3524 I bought a Nightforce NX8 at the same time a good shooting buddy bought his Nexus and we compared both already. As personal preference we both agreed the Nightforce NX8 was a more real world useable scope in the field.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
@@bryanwilliams3524 We both also agreed the Nexus is a decent buy for the scope at $999-$1099.
@p47rr2 жыл бұрын
Burris said years ago to use a business at one hundred yards to see if you can read it.
@dirklabuschagne4733 жыл бұрын
How do the Arken SH4 Gen2 compare to the EP4? SH4 G2 vs the string on the gong stand?
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
The SH4 has great glass for its price ..it is really hard to tell the differance between the EP4 snd the SH2. The EP4 internals are heavier built that the SH4. We have used both in matches and both performed amazingly. As far as the string goes you would not be able to see those small strands through the SH2. I know this because I could not see then through the EP4. Typically the more you pay the better the quality control and better glass... ARKEN and Element is an example of scopes that are out preforming there price. Hope this helps..
@dirklabuschagne4733 жыл бұрын
@@mikecornelison92 Thanks appreciate
@dirklabuschagne4733 жыл бұрын
@@mikecornelison92 thanks for the above..Was there a noticeable difference? This would be for the 24x models shooting at 1,000yds.
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
@@dirklabuschagne473 The EP4 is a clearer scope for long range work. But they both will work. Just depends on your bugget.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
For 1000 yard shooting I'd at least get the Athlon Midas Tac 6-24x50 and a 20moa base or use Burris Signature XTR rings with the included offset inserts. The Athlon Midas Tac has superior image quality compared to the Arken SH4 and EP5 at their highest magnification.
@henryhenry58972 жыл бұрын
How would a Nightforce nx8 be compared to element nexus ? I wonder if I should rather steer toward a nexus than Nightforce especially as it cheaper but I’m Always concerns about ruggedness of durability of internals and erector…
@pantherhollow52902 жыл бұрын
I still have the Nexus in this video, and we have used the heck out of it in all kinds of conditions. It is still running perfectly with no issues. I would not know about the NX8 as we have never had one to test. I would say if you were a top tier scope guy you might be fine with the Nexus. It is a $1500 scope that bodes well in its price category.
@henryhenry58972 жыл бұрын
@@pantherhollow5290 thanks for reply it’s nice to see how you compare it to other scopes!
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
I own several Nightforce scopes on lifting an NX8 4-32x and compared it to my friend's Element Nexus side by side and the NX8 is hands down the better scope with more useable magnification range and worth the $1800 I bought it on sale for. It weighs about the same as the Nexus and has more elevation travel in a 30mm tube. When compared at 5-20x to the Nexus the NX8 image quality is noticeably better and it really smokes it at 20x. I wouldn't buy a Nexus for $1500 and to me, it's an upside down negative value for the money spent. If the Nexus was priced $750 - $800 then I think it would be worth buying specifically since it's only a 4x erector with meager 5-20x magnification range compared to other brands of scopes in the 5-25x, 4-24x, and at least the 4-20x Tract Toric that's a lot cheaper and an overall better scope than the Nexus which I feel is massively overpriced for what you get compared to other brands available (The entire Element Optics line are way overpriced).
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
A better comparison is the Nexus to the Arken EP5 side by side at 5-20x magnification and the Arken has better turrets and zero stop and the glass is about the same at that magnification range. The NX8 is a whole next level up.
@chrxnohhxoxo32553 жыл бұрын
Nexus or tract toric
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.. Glass is VERY close.. Tract has more options..
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The Tract Toric ELR has better glass optically according to my eyes. It's a better scope overall with a more broader more real world useable magnification range. 15% off Tract scopes if you got family or friends in law enforcement or military. To me, a 5-20x simply doesn't make any sense for practical real world shooting applications when there are many 4-24x, 4.5-30x, 5-25x and even more useable 4-20x scopes in today's market.
@MnrKoffie2 жыл бұрын
Please let us us know how the EP5 stacks up against the Nexus. An obvious unfair comparison with the Nexus being almost 3 times the price but would you rather take a secondhand Nexus at a good price than buying a new Arken EP5?
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
Glass between the EP5 and Nexus is about the same when compared side by side at 5-20x magnification and the Arken has superior turrets and zero stop compared to the Nexus. If you buy the Nexus first then the EP5 later you will probably be disappointed with the Nexus.
@MnrKoffie Жыл бұрын
@@commonsense5709 thanks, you are talking about the 30mm Nexus and not the 34mm Titan?
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
@@MnrKoffie I was comparing the EP5 to the Japanese $1499 Nexus specifically at 5-20x magnification. The Chinese $799 Titan isn't as clear as the EP5 and the Arken tracts better too. The Element brand was a disappointment among myself and 4 other shooting buddies especially for the prices they charge compared to other brands of scopes within their price ranges and even cheaper ones too.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
TBH I'm not really a fan of Arken. I get real eye fatigue when shooting using Arken scopes with both the SH4s and EP5 during prolonged shooting sessions. I prefer using Japanese scopes which don't give me any eye fatigue. I question the glass on the EP5 since it's supposed to be Japanese glass but my eye fatigue doesn't lie. It's not as bad when used only up to 20x or under. I don't get eye fatigue when using either of my Chinese Athlon Midas Tac and Ares BTR at high magnification though so I guess it isn't a Chinese thing.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The Element Helix is the worst in giving me severe eye fatigue.
@rollinassassin94993 жыл бұрын
How does the arken sh4 gen 2 6-24 stack up against these scopes????
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
It is the scope to beat in its price range. It is as clear as the EP4 and not quite as clear as the Element Titan. But the Titan is twice the price... I have had no complaints on the SH4.
@JimmyDickens13 жыл бұрын
@@mikecornelison92 Are the Arken crosshairs as small as this reviewer says? He says they are too small to hunt with at the lower power settings.
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
@@JimmyDickens1 Yes. The reviewer is me. Sorry I have 2 youtube accounts... the ret is VERY hard to see on 6 power. Now if you hunt in a big field you could turn up the power. This scope is most at home on a long range setup. Long range hunting or targets. I have several EP4 scopes and they are all on target rifles. Now the 4-14 is more of a hunting scope.
@JimmyDickens13 жыл бұрын
@@mikecornelison92 Good to know. I mostly use my rifles to deer hunt. I have mostly Leopold 3-9x40 and one Leopold 4.5-14x50. All Second Focal Plane. But I won two rifles that need scopes, so I was thinking for the price, I’d get two of the Arkens. The rifles are .30-06 and .25-06. Any recommendations?
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
@@JimmyDickens1 Element Helix are great scopes for the money. 5'-20 power SFP. The FFP Helix is great too
@arjones23303 жыл бұрын
What is your favorite scope for quality glass that you use period?
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
High end scopes 1. Athlon Cronos BTR (best price most options) 2. Valada Recon Gen2 (while not the most expensive or the cheapest. The Recon is at the top of the pile for me.. Most options for price, but its beefy) 3. Maven RS4.. (Simi light weight, Killer good looks and a VERY functional ret. 130 moa of elevation and 60 hold over. Some of the BEST glass I have seen it its price range 4. Tract. ( good looks and monster turrets great scope.. but the Maven edges it out slightly.) Budget scopes Arekn all day and twice on Sunday Athlon Helos better glass but $200 more dollars Thanks for watching.
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
In the order of best preferences, March High Master, FX, F, Nightforce NX8, SHV, Tract Toric, Sightron SVIII, SIII, Athlon Cronus (), Ares BTR, Midas Tac. I plan to add the Burris XTR PRO 5.5-30x56 and Vortex Razor gen 3 6-36x56 to this mix as soon as they are in stock at my preferred dealers. They are expected to rank between the March and Nightforce above. There are several high end scopes some of my shooting buddies have that I chose to not buy after looking through theirs (lucky me).
@larrymayfield21423 жыл бұрын
Hey Nexus vs Tract Toric, which way would you go?
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy... Thanks for watching. Element Nexus: Light weight Tough as nails Great hunting scope and long range Tract Toric EXCELENT long range scope Great look with over sized turrets Tough as nails Price Tract $1700 Nexus $1500 Glass is dead tie. If I was wanting a hunting/long range scope it would be Nexus If I wanted a PRS/mile scope it would be the Tract Toric ALL day Hope this finds you well.
@larrymayfield21423 жыл бұрын
@@pantherhollow5290 Thank you so much for the thoughtful reply! it is much appreciated
@larrymayfield21423 жыл бұрын
@@pantherhollow5290 One more question... Could you see that strand of line through the Tract?
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
@@larrymayfield2142 Yes sir.. plus its a 30 power.. The Athlon Aries ETR 4.5-30x56 was not in that test on that vid. But you can see it with that scope too.
@larrymayfield21423 жыл бұрын
@@pantherhollow5290 Awesome! I was curious because you couldn’t see or at least faintly see with the Vortex and it was a 27 power correct? Just wanted to make sure it was optically as good. How do you feel Cronus vs Toric ELR?
@bruteforce20113 жыл бұрын
Do you have any sh4 gen2 Arkens available?
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
no sir.. I will be getting some at the end of the month.
@magnumboyz12143 жыл бұрын
Do you have any of the arken optic in stock now
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
no.. sorry.. I should have some by the end of January.. Have a blessed holiday season
@arjones23303 жыл бұрын
Im not a hunter but im interested in the nexus.
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
the Nexus scope has very good glass for it's price and the weight is right on par with several on the market. thanks for watching
@arjones23303 жыл бұрын
@@pantherhollow5290 just bought the ares etr!
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
@@arjones2330 Man can't go wrong there either. Athlon has really upped there game on 34mm tube stuff. The only reason I am not running a ETR is I can not hang on to them. The Coronus BRT is a bit easier to hold on to because of price. Most people will opt for the Aris ERT over the Cronus due to price. Nice purchase.. You will like it..
@arjones23303 жыл бұрын
@@pantherhollow5290 happy 4th/happy shooting!!!!
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
@@arjones2330 you too buddy
@MAC-vh3kf3 жыл бұрын
Review blackhound optics.
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
I am trying to work that out. They look to have a good offering. I do have a Trac Torx headed my way for review.
@JohnSmith-zw6tr Жыл бұрын
Click bait Where’s the POV side by side!?!? That’s one of the MAIN REASONS for buying a scope.
@pantherhollow5290 Жыл бұрын
the view side by side on video??? LOL... LOL... what does that prove??? How does that show the glass??? the scope is only as good as your camera and the file loaded on KZfaq>>>>> lol.. whatever
@nicholaswestendorf19833 жыл бұрын
the Arken also Illuminates
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
Only the SH4 line of scopes has illumination.. The EP4 has no illumination.. Thanks
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
Arken's illumination isn't daytime bright and doesn't help when on low magnification when the reticle disappears.
@cole49693 жыл бұрын
show us the truth of being able to see the string.
@mikecornelison923 жыл бұрын
How would I do that? You can film through a scope but the image is not at clear as it is with the naked eye. Tell me how you would do it!!
@aeropixx3 жыл бұрын
Nightforce...period
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
You would be wrong my friend.. Several scopes are made as well and in some cases better!! if you have never compared you would not know.. I spend ALOT of time on the range talking to different people and looking at different scopes including Not-Force... If you are a fan boy that is fine. to each their own.. We prove EVERY match that the scope does not make the shooter.. But if you have more to spend on you gun???? well things get better faster.. hhhmmm.. something to think about???
@aeropixx3 жыл бұрын
@@pantherhollow5290 not a fanboy here, just a fan of what works best for me. I own an Element Titan and love it! But it sits a top my FX Impact air gun . Nightforce ATACR’s on both my MPA’s. Just for reference from someone else who spends a bit of time on the competition range...and you may look at past year’s top scopes as well. precisionrifleblog.com/2020/09/05/best-elr-scope-and-scope-mount-and-rings/
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
@@aeropixx The Titan is a great scope for sure.. But I was more so talking about the Nexus.. Have you had a chance to look at one? That's great that you are having good luck with your Night Force.. I have seen ALOT of scopes fail in the cold and Night Force was no exception.. And I restate ALOT of scopes start to fail after it gets below 30 degrees. I just ran a match in the snow with my Demo Nexus and had ZERO issues. Other shooters had issues with sticky turrets and parallax knobs being so stiff you could not turn them. I will be releasing a video soon of what I put the Nexus through.. Thanks for the commentary. I always enjoy talking to guys that gets out and runs their gear. It makes us all better in the long run.
@pantherhollow52903 жыл бұрын
@@aeropixx Just to clarify.. We are comparing a Night Force that costs $3100 to a Element Titan $800 and Nexus for $1500.. Correct?? If so,,, I would be wondering what I spent twice the money on?? Does the scopes in question (Titan, Nexus and Arken) not do all the same things that the $3100 scope does? Repeat to Zero Clear Glass Great recital options Useable recital Zero stops accurate recital in moa and mil plenty of elevation preform in adverse conditions GREAT warrantee just a few key points. What am I missing?
@bryanwilliams35243 жыл бұрын
I sold my Nightforce and bought A ELEMENT NEXUS. After using my buddy’s. Nexus sorry 700 cheaper made in same factory. Even video guy said your wrong. It’s ok to be wrong sometimes.