Arms of the Betrayer in Explorer's Guide to Wildemount!

Arms of the Betrayer in Explorer's Guide to Wildemount! | Nerd Immersion

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This time I cover the opposite of the Vestiges of Divergence, the Arms of the Betrayer. These are artifacts that unlock/awaken similar to the Vestiges but they are evil and slightly more powerful. They are all weapons and I like pretty much all of them, but the Warhammer and the Rapier are definitely my favorite. Which one is your favorite? Also for those who were worried, my little guy is feeling much better!
7:20. Blade of broken mirrors
11:09. Grovelthrash
13:30. Lash of Shadows
16:35. Mace of the Black Crown
18:42. Ruins wake
21:05 Silken Spike
23:27. Bloody End
25:10 Will of the Talon
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@syzore2 4 жыл бұрын

6:50 Must be devoured by Uk'otoa *Whispers Uk'otoa*

@JirkaKunst 4 жыл бұрын

_Uk'otoa_

@marslaverone7124 4 жыл бұрын

UK’OTOA (uk’otoa)

@kenshin5429 4 жыл бұрын

LOL

@calebdouglas2512 3 жыл бұрын

*Uk'otoa*

@Eddrian32 4 жыл бұрын

I suppose for the will of the talon, that's intended to be a more iron clad order, the tyrannical subjugation of Innocents, and the "decisive action" would be the disregard of those Innocents. Also, a devil would define "fair share" a little differently than a mortal would...

@pedroxavier4227 4 жыл бұрын

I can't kill him it's not bahamut's way Will of the Talon: dewit

@MrBiloxifireman 4 жыл бұрын

7:20. Blade of broken mirrors 11:09. Grovel thrash 13:30. Lash of Shadows 16:35. Mace of the Black Crown 18:42. Ruins wake 21:05 Silken Spike 23:27. Bloody End 25:10 Will of the Talon.. 5d6 Bonus Action x5. Not bad. Feel free to correct any errors and spelling. Thanks 😊

@DovaDonut 4 жыл бұрын

I actually find these weapons to be interesting in the view that I can trick my players and figure out what their true morality is.

@bigbepis6515 4 жыл бұрын

I found your videos since I'm a critter but I've got to say I really like the sit down and review format your videos are in and after the explorers guide is through I'm looking forward to what you get up to next

@MM-lv7iy 4 жыл бұрын

Didn’t they introduce weapons that recharge their abilities during dusk instead of dawn? You would think that would flavor better with these evil weapons instead of the standard.

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

Right?

@fatilumkins8730 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if it’s an attempt to possibly hide it’s true nature from some groups.

@panheaddragonwolfpaw 4 жыл бұрын

Especially with the Lolth weapon, considering its exalted ability is only useful at night or in a really dark dungeon.

@goldengaruda8935 3 жыл бұрын

Simplicity?

@Ummthatoneplace 4 жыл бұрын

I've been playing with the idea of transforming Agony (the flail Vestige from Tal'dorei guide) into one of the Betrayer arms instead. It fits better thematically in my mind with flails being the weapon of choice to Yeenoghu.

@felixrivera895 4 жыл бұрын

A major benefit including immunity to Stun? *The Monk wants to know your location*

@p00tis 4 жыл бұрын

Good. Fuck Monks.

@Nildread 4 жыл бұрын

@@p00tis just because you find Beau attractive doesn't mean we all do.

@p00tis 4 жыл бұрын

@@Nildread You couldn't pay me to even consider that god awful character remotely attractive.

@Nildread 4 жыл бұрын

@@p00tis that's good because odd considering is free

@David25512 4 жыл бұрын

I like how Will of the Talon's breath weapon functions better than a Dragonborn's. Aye, it ain't easy being green

@foggy370 4 жыл бұрын

Hey man, just wanted to let you know that your content is awesome. Please keep putting videos out. It's one of the few things I look forward to these days.

@hot_mustard 4 жыл бұрын

I have a different interpretation of the one that desires "a fair share of treasure in return". I think that means that since the character is a leader, makes decisions in battle, etc - it is only fair that they get a larger share of treasure than others. The "in return" is important - in payment for their leadership they get more in return.

@shihi51 4 жыл бұрын

I cant tell if its the fact that villains inherently are cooler or more interesting to me, or if these actually had more time put into them. Either way I'm about to put these in the hands of some really nasty bosses!

@btCharlie_ 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's the personality of sentient weapons and how they tend to be evil-ish. It sends the mind racing thinking about the RP possibilities.

@BR4IN1N4J4R 4 жыл бұрын

As someone with a LE Dragonborn Conquest Paladin of Tiamat in the backlog of Characters, Will of the Talon sounds like the perfect weapon for him

@zacharylona 3 жыл бұрын

Favorite response to the minor detrimental property of being blinded while more than 10' apart: "it's my seeing eye... sword."

@coolnamebro7363 3 жыл бұрын

Be artificer, attune to all of them, get true polymorphed into maralith=become death destroyer of memes.

@deegandeloof4953 4 жыл бұрын

I'm curious as to if good characters can attune, even though I haven't watched the video yet

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

None of them are restricted by alignment, so there doesn't seem to be a reason why.

@Karak971 4 жыл бұрын

If anything I'd say the most interesting stories could come from a good character attuning to one not knowing what they are

@Infocusburning 4 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate hour coverage brother. Thank you and keep up the good work ✊

@rayar3234 4 жыл бұрын

I love that you made the Uk'otoa echo lol

@Daltygaming2 4 жыл бұрын

Have you ever thought about revisiting the unofficial Tal’Dorei campaign book?

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

Yup, I will be

@americatheuneducated3715 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with your assessment of the lash of shadows and having snake heads, This is an example of homebrewing fitting the weapon better as I created a dormant, awakened, and an exalted version of each. Dormant I erased 3 heads from the image, giving it just 2, then only 3 heads in awakened and finally only 4 in exalted.

@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet 4 жыл бұрын

The vestiges of divergence and the arms of the betrayers remind me very much of the codices in Strongholds and Followers, in that they cause individual players to have seriously overpowered items which can warp the expected capacity of the player. And they provide so much possibility for story. Check out the codices from Matt Colville if you can, they’re worth a look.

@anionleader 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, you shaved! Looking good, Ted! All of the Wildemount stuff you've done is excellent thus far.

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I debated doing a quarantine beard and just letting it grow the whole time. But I decided instead, I'm going to go the other way and try to get in shape over the quarantine. And start with a little grooming

@nandodando9695 3 жыл бұрын

16:35 great mace

@valasafantastic1055 4 жыл бұрын

I made a bunch of homebrew magical whips! I will be adding a 5th poison for the whip if I use it. Fun video thanks!

@lordvaust5830 4 жыл бұрын

I really like Tiamat. There’s a lot of potential that was sort of wasted in that one module... but the Will of the Talon and the Wreathe of he Prism could be the crux of an adventure set around Tiamat’s cult. Maybe the players have to use the Wreathe against the cult to stop some powerful adult dragon, or the Will of the Talon is the only weapon that can kill a powerful demon summoned by Tiamat’s followers that’s threatening the player’s home base.

@kaneunderwood8261 4 жыл бұрын

The talking dagger, the blade of broken mirrors, reminds me of rubilax from wakfu. Sorry please tell me I'm wrong.

@deathfury4039 3 жыл бұрын

Finally, someone who both plays dnd and watches Wakfu!!!!!

@melvixen1943 4 жыл бұрын

2 things. 1st: None of the arms are true ranged weapons and 5e lacks magic ranged weapons. 2nd: All the beings in the weapons are pretty powerful. I would have wished they would have added some fluff that enables them as hexblade / infernal patrons. Maybe with the weapon giving some new spelloptions to the hexblade warlock.

@brayne6231 4 жыл бұрын

The "Lesser Idols" section of the book details the Arms as Hexblade or Fiend Warlock patrons as well as Death or War Cleric options

@melvixen1943 4 жыл бұрын

@@brayne6231 oh? Then the book moved up a lot on my "D&D stuff i need to buy" list

@oscarbrazil9922 4 жыл бұрын

It really got me thinking that how powerful is Uk’ota that he can manage to destroy an arm of a betrayer.

@j.w.7608 2 жыл бұрын

Probably about as strong as tiamat's blood or an ancient red dragon it seems

@DwarfDaddy 4 жыл бұрын

You had me at snake headed whip

@medievalweaponmaster 4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it be more thematic for the Will of the Talon to have a Red Abishai in it instead of a bone devil.

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

Any Abishai really

@ANDELE3025 4 жыл бұрын

@@NerdImmersion 5 of them, constantly arguing and bickering over the right type of action to take, softly forcing the player to be more tyrannical and iron handed.

@aaronsummers2292 4 жыл бұрын

Curious, if I could borrow your expertise in Arcana? I have a player who's spell casting focus is a crystal ball, even though he has multiple staffs he prefers his crystal ball.. Are there any crystal balls in dnd lore that have perks? Looking for an item to award. Thank you for any help.

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

There are the literal dnd Crystal Balls, there are 3 variations

@decobyjones9491 4 жыл бұрын

Neat but besides the mace the other ones can't really influence your players to become evil. They also can't really end Attunement by themselves so they're just really weapons with some attitude.

@justincaviness 4 жыл бұрын

Decoby Jones The dagger is perfect for influencing someone so that they become evil. It uses your own values against you in order to do so.

@decobyjones9491 4 жыл бұрын

@@justincaviness your right must have skipped it during my first watch through.

@sozintallus5619 4 жыл бұрын

Blade of broken mirrors seems like weapon for a college of whisper bard

@keganbancroft3617 4 жыл бұрын

honestly Grumsh's spear is super cool

@Hromovlad1 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like good patrons for a Hexblade Warlock

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

definitely

@siyarg.4900 4 жыл бұрын

I hope your son is doing well and gets better soon! Also Thanks for all uploads, they've genuinely helped me decided whether to buy the book or not

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

yeah he's doing much better now!

@dungeonpastor8295 4 жыл бұрын

Fjord’s sword from the wild other I believe is a vestige

@agent00puffball 4 жыл бұрын

Stormrazer is 100% a vestige. The Sword of Fathoms is way closer to a Betrayer weapon, though I don't think it was.

@Nildread 4 жыл бұрын

@@agent00puffball it depends on definitions, and presumably if Matt will have either one evolve. Because if vestige/arm only relates to the calamity, then maybe not. but if it's just a weapon created by a god or for a god or whatever, I'd argue that they both fit that criteria. Even if uk'otoa isn't technically a "god" there's evidence that worship might be connected to attaining godly powers and uk'otoa is undoubtedly worshipped.

@stevenpeven258 4 жыл бұрын

I can see people attempting to banish the devils and demons out of the weapons, while keeping at least some of the magical properties of the weapons

@astridstarr2787 3 жыл бұрын

I presented the idea of a ritual to banish the fiend from the weapon in exchange for bonding their own soul to the weapon, becoming the new mind in the weapon upon death

@cybermewt 4 жыл бұрын

I've a small question here... would an Identify spell tell everything about these 'vestiges of divergence/arms of the betrayers'? would only reveal the properties of the first state? would it reveal the 'downsides' or are considered curses? would it tell the caster how to unlock the new states?

@j.w.7608 2 жыл бұрын

One of things depending on the DM; a similar situation happened in critical role season 2 with the wizard character Caleb and his use of Identify. The DM said Identify is a low level spell so dont expect it to tell you everything! About an higher rarity item

@JamesSamson487 4 жыл бұрын

My favourite is the Bloody End, just cos Bane is my favourite Betrayer God, although Asmodeus comes a close second.

@maxx8362 4 жыл бұрын

I get around the issue of there not being enough. or any, magic weapons of a certain type by just ignoring the weapon type of any printed magic item. I am particularly fond of the idea for a whip of disruption, vorpal sickle, or light hammer of striking.

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's always just a bummer. Whip of Disruption is how I made my Castlevania Vampire Killer Whip

@melvixen1943 4 жыл бұрын

I like to sometimes tack on variants of spelleffects and UA abilities that didnt make it into the game. My last tired artifact weapon (for a barbarian) was actualy an dwarven axe that did additional thunderdamage and added a bit of walkingspeed. It could inflict Silence on a targed on the 3rd stage if you had hit.

@thornelson1411 4 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering if the Wreath of the Prism is actually meant for Bahamut

@ANDELE3025 4 жыл бұрын

Nah, its kinda fitting since Bahamut always was a stickler (and only saw magic items as a tool to purge evil), Hlals item would be a prank and Null probably hands out non-orcus related dracolichdom to those worthy instead of a item. And because she is the one dragon to not have the main "mooks" of her forces be actual dragons in most cases.

@snazzyfeathers 2 жыл бұрын

This is an old video but I agree with the snake head whip. Whips have always been a really bad weapon to use in general because of how low the damage die is, and pairing that whip with poison damage (the most often resistant/immune damage) and tying it to a con save (the worst save to target) makes it the worse item on the list in my opinion. If it did at least an additional d4 per head it would be a little better.

@vegarskaugen6881 4 жыл бұрын

i love rulns Wake

@DragonmasterCire 4 жыл бұрын

Craven's Edge was a sentiment weapon that Grog wielded, Were it was not a full example it had an awaken state when it was slated with enough blood

@Meteor2022 4 жыл бұрын

Yasha needs the spear and Stormgirdle.

@kivagalehall4965 4 жыл бұрын

I’m sad there are none for magic users.

@decobyjones9491 4 жыл бұрын

Me too but can you really get something better than a staff of Magi

@yashmody417 4 жыл бұрын

There's some elsewhere in the book

@Nildread 4 жыл бұрын

There's cool stuff in the vestiges. Armour for druids/anyone that uses polymorph or a shape change. A tome for wizards. But I don't see why you couldn't take the vestiges from the other book + the vestiges and the arms from here and then kinda Frankenstein your own based on them/other magic items or artifacts.

@Nildread 4 жыл бұрын

I'm also a fan of looking over the spells, feats, and class features and adding them to items or amplifying them to some extent. Mat Colville's Fortresses and strongholds book has some ideas for improving class features that can be interesting.

@Losgatos3690 4 жыл бұрын

Evil campaign starting at level 7 with one of these each lol

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

I mean, we're about to hit level 7 in the Evil Campaign I'm playing in, so I wouldn't mind having one

@The_Gelatinman 4 жыл бұрын

So in these type of videos are you going over every magic item or are there more you're leaving out

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

In this video I went over every Arm of the Betrayer. Just like I went over ever Vestige in the Vestige video and every other magic item in the magic item video. The only time something would have been left out is if it was buried somewhere in the rest of the book and not listed in the Wildemount Treasure section.

@The_Gelatinman 4 жыл бұрын

@@NerdImmersion Ok cool I was just wondering,love your videos by the way keep it up man.

@MM-lv7iy 4 жыл бұрын

Didn’t they change the whips used by priestesses of Lolth into tentacles instead of snakes? I mean, flavor however you want, I’m just wondering.

@mawindy52 4 жыл бұрын

I do wish they would have made more weapon vestiges or at least try to rework/reword the original vestiges. I also like you love whips and have created some college magical whips that pump up the damage.

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

The old vestiges live in publishing hell unfortunately, so they won't be reprinted anytime soon

@drunkenbutterfly21 4 жыл бұрын

Bloody end would be perfect for a conquest paladin both mechanically and flavour wise

@agent00puffball 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man. If I just re-skin it as a flail instead of a morningstar it is perfect for one of my NPCs.

@karpmageddon4155 4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't destroying them result in the fiends release and therefore be a goal of said fiends? 🤔

@j.w.7608 2 жыл бұрын

I think the fiends go back to the plane their from; and I think they'd rather be on the material plane so they can mess with humans

@jordancarlson9071 4 жыл бұрын

What about Dyrrn's Tentacle Whip from Eberron? My character is about to get one, I think.

@NerdImmersion 4 жыл бұрын

i forgot about that!

@jordancarlson9071 4 жыл бұрын

@@NerdImmersion I've been loving the whip build! Took your advice when making my first character. He's crazy effective! I've been using the barbed chains from a chained devil for my whips thus far. Been pretty fun getting both damage and grapple!

@Throrface 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's a bit of a bummer that the Arms of the Betrayers don't have any spellcaster weapons.

@kaelsfan1940 4 жыл бұрын

MAYOR SPOILERS Calianna's Bowl was probably one of these wdyt?

@optimus2200 3 жыл бұрын

So ... about that taldorie book ted have you forgot or what ? XD

@panheaddragonwolfpaw 4 жыл бұрын

Why did they give the Blade of Broken Mirrors, a weapon perfect for Assassins, a personality that completely hates sneaking around, slowly killing enemies? It would be comedic the first time, but when you have to loudly argue with your dagger every time you are trying to patiently wait for the perfect time to strike, it would get pretty old.

@j.w.7608 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe strike up a deal with the dagger a situation where u can get your sneaky kills and it can get what it wants so it can b quit while u stabby stab

@Serothil_and_stuff 4 жыл бұрын

Sapient not sentient. How come no one gets the difference. Sentient means "feeling" as in can experience pain and pleasure. Sapient means capable of complex "thinking" are self aware. Humans are both. Animals are sentient but not sapient. The arms of the Betrayers can think for themselves but not feel anything, therefore they are sapient but not sentient. Or do I miss understand this. Do they just feel but not think? Like a dog trained to fight and kill, but as a weapon?